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there_o sect._n 14._o whether_o before_o gregory_n mission_n the_o british_a church_n be_v ever_o subject_a to_o the_o pope_n or_o heretical_a sect._n 15._o reynerius_n word_n vindicate_v viz._n the_o church_n of_o the_o armenian_n ethiopian_n and_o indian_n and_o the_o rest_n which_o the_o apostle_n convert_v be_v not_o under_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n sect._n 16._o the_o 28._o can._n of_o the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n vindicate_v which_o declare_v the_o pope_n to_o be_v but_o the_o first_o patriarch_n in_o the_o empire_n by_o humane_a right_n for_o the_o sake_n of_o the_o imperial_a city_n sect._n 17._o 18_o 19_o 20._o his_o brave_a attempt_n to_o prove_v that_o extra-imperial_a bishop_n be_v summon_v to_o the_o council_n at_o nice_a of_o john_n persidis_fw-la armenian_n gothia_n at_o ephes._n 1_o thebamnon_n bishop_n of_o coptus_n sect._n 21._o 22._o his_o other_o citation_n confute_v sect._n 23._o of_o eusebius_n his_o circular_a letter_n sect._n 24._o chap._n 4._o the_o emperor_n and_o not_o the_o pope_n call_v the_o old_a council_n sect._n 1_o myraeus_n his_o notitia_fw-la episcopat_fw-la against_o he_o sect._n 2._o of_o the_o authority_n over_o the_o barbarous_a give_v con._n calce_v c._n 28._o proof_n that_o the_o papal_a power_n be_v hold_v to_o be_v but_o jure_fw-la humano_fw-la sect._n 5._o he_o be_v over_o but_o one_o empire_n sect._n 6._o no_o council_n but_o of_o one_o empire_n prosper_v testimony_n examine_v &_o caput_fw-la mundi_fw-la expound_v sect._n 7._o pope_n leo_n word_n examine_v sect._n 8_o 9_o the_o decretal_a epistle_n show_v the_o pope_n rule_v not_o the_o world_n sect._n 10._o more_o of_o ethiopia_n and_o pisanus_n canon_n sect._n 11._o chap._n 5._o the_o case_n reâ—…eated_v the_o uselessness_n of_o his_o testimony_n therein_o chap._n 6._o the_o vanity_n of_o his_o proof_n that_o council_n be_v call_v general_n as_o to_o all_o the_o world_n and_o not_o only_o to_o the_o empire_n from_o the_o word_n totius_fw-la orbis_fw-la from_o the_o end_n the_o peace_n of_o the_o world_n and_o the_o rest_n sect._n 1_o 2_o 3_o 4_o 5_o 6_o 7._o his_o question_n answer_v what_o heretic_n be_v christian_n sect._n 8_o 9_o 10_o 11._o he_o say_v that_o no_o heretic_n believe_v for_o the_o authority_n of_o god_n reveal_v and_o so_o acquit_v all_o that_o do_v but_o believe_v that_o god_n be_v true_a which_o be_v all_o that_o believe_v indeed_o that_o there_o be_v a_o god_n sect._n 12._o of_o sufficiency_n of_o proposal_n of_o truth_n it_o be_v not_o equal_a he_o absolve_v heretic_n and_o make_v heretic_n of_o the_o papist_n sect._n 13_o 14_o 15._o whether_o the_o papist_n and_o protestant_n be_v one_o church_n whether_o the_o pope_n and_o christ_n be_v two_o head_n whether_o a_o king_n that_o say_v god_n have_v make_v i_o the_o vicegod_n of_o all_o the_o earth_n set_v not_o up_o a_o policy_n destinct_n from_o god_n sect._n 16._o one_o call_v a_o papist_n may_v be_v a_o christian_n and_o another_o not_o sect._n 17._o 18._o chap._n 7._o whether_o we_o separate_v from_o the_o church_n as_o the_o old_a heretic_n do_v sect._n 1_o whether_o we_o separate_v from_o other_o church_n as_o we_o do_v from_o the_o papal_a sect._n 2._o arrian_n separate_v from_o the_o church_n as_o christian_a sect._n 3_o why_o they-call_a u_fw-mi schismatic_n sect._n 4._o 5._o papist_n agree_v not_o whether_o heretic_n be_v in_o the_o church_n sect._n 6._o what_o we_o hold_v herein_o sect._n 6._o his_o absurd_a answer_n sect._n 7._o whether_o every_o man_n deny_v christ_n veracity_n who_o receive_v not_o every_o truth_n sufficient_o propose_v sect._n 8_o 9_o he_o make_v it_o a_o grand_a novelty_n of_o i_o to_o say_v that_o there_o may_v be_v division_n in_o the_o church_n and_o not_o from_o the_o church_n because_o the_o church_n be_v a_o most_o perfect_a unity_n the_o shame_n of_o this_o charge_n sect._n 10_o 11._o his_o charge_n of_o eutychianisme_n on_o the_o abassine_n etc._n etc._n sect._n 12._o of_o self-conceited_a hereticate_a wit_n sect._n 12._o whether_o the_o abassine_n confess_v themselves_o eutichianes_n sect._n 14._o of_o the_o greek_a church_n reject_v we_o sect._n 16._o the_o greek_a church_n claim_v not_o sovereignty_n over_o all_o the_o world_n but_o in_o the_o empire_n sect._n 17_o 18_o 19_o whether_o every_o child_n subject_n or_o neighbour_n must_v judge_n heretic_n and_o avoid_v they_o unsentence_v sect._n 20._o his_o false_a answer_n to_o the_o testimony_n of_o their_o own_o writer_n that_o free_a the_o greek_n from_o heresy_n sect._n 21._o the_o witness_n of_o the_o council_n of_o florence_n that_o the_o greek_n mean_v orthodox_o sect._n 23._o nilus_n testimony_n vindicate_v sect._n 24_o our_o unity_n with_o greek_n and_o other_o sect._n 25._o a_o notable_a passage_n of_o meletius_n patriarch_n of_o alexandria_n and_o constantinople_n for_o the_o sole_a headship_n of_o christ_n and_o the_o pope_n usurpation_n novelty_n and_o forsake_v tradition_n which_o with_o cyril_n testimony_n w._n j._n pass_v over_o sect._n 26._o the_o answer_n to_o w._n j_n second_o part_n of_o his_o reply_n sect._n 1_o sufficient_a answer_n to_o all_o his_o citation_n pretermit_v in_o term_n sect._n 2._o because_o i_o cite_v a_o patriarch_n and_o council_n excommunicate_v a_o pope_n by_o the_o emperor_n theodosius_n countenance_n he_o say_v i_o plead_v for_o rebellion_n sect._n 4._o his_o instance_n of_o the_o pope_n extraneous_a power_n confute_v sect._n 5._o his_o particular_a proof_n before_o promise_v in_o a_o special_a tract_n examine_v 1._o his_o error_n of_o theophilus_n gothiae_n sect._n 6._o 2._o of_o domnus_n bosphori_n his_o gross_a error_n sect._n 7._o 3._o of_o joh._n persidis_fw-la sect._n 8._o 4._o of_o bishop_n of_o scythia_n sect._n 9_o 5._o of_o etherius_fw-la anchialensis_n for_o sebastianus_n sect._n 10._o 6._o of_o phaebamnon_n copti_n sect._n 11._o 7._o of_o theodulus_n esulae_n so_o false_o call_v sect._n 12._o 8._o of_o theodorus_n gadarorum_n sect._n 13._o 9_o of_o antipater_n bostrorum_fw-la sect._n 14._o 10._o of_o olympius_n schythopoleos_n sect._n 15._o 11._o of_o eusebius_n gentis_fw-la saracenorum_n sect._n 16._o 12._o constantinus_n bostrorum_fw-la sect._n 17._o 13._o one_o pro_fw-la glaco_fw-it gerassae_fw-la all_o show_v his_o gross_a ignorance_n of_o the_o bishopric_n of_o the_o empire_n sect._n 19_o the_o nestorian_n epistle_n at_o the_o council_n ephes._n to_o callimores_n rex_fw-la expound_v sect._n 20_o 21._o remark_n upon_o passage_n in_o the_o first_o ephisine_n council_n sect._n 22._o remark_n of_o the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n sect._n 23._o of_o the_o title_n caput_fw-la mundi_fw-la mater_fw-la omnium_fw-la ecclesiarum_fw-la primatus_fw-la apostolicus_n etc._n etc._n give_v to_o antioch_n and_o jerusalem_n sect._n 24._o binnius_n confession_n that_o at_o conc._n const._n 1._o the_o pope_n preside_v not_o per_fw-la se_fw-la vel_fw-la per_fw-la legatos_fw-la sect._n 25._o his_o assertion_n that_o the_o council_n 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