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A91309 Truth triumphing over falshood, antiquity over novelty. Or, The first part of a just and seasonable vindication of the undoubted ecclesiasticall iurisdiction, right, legislative, coercive power of Christian emperors, kings, magistrates, parliaments, in all matters of religion, church-government, discipline, ceremonies, manners: summoning of, presiding, moderating in councells, synods; and ratifying their canons, determinations, decrees: as likewise of lay-mens right both to sit and vote in councells; ... In refutation of Mr. Iohn Goodwins Innocencies Triumph: my deare brother Burtons Vindication of churches, commonly called Independent: and of all anti-monarchicall, anti-Parliamentall, anti-synodicall, and anarchicall paradoxes of papists, prelates, Anabaptists, Arminians, Socinians, Brownists, or Independents: whose old and new objections to the contrary, are here fully answered. / By William Prynne, of Lincolnes Inne, Esquire. Prynne, William, 1600-1669. 1645 (1645) Wing P4115; Thomason E259_1; ESTC R212479 202,789 171

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TRVTH TRIVMPHING OVER FALSHOOD ANTIQVITY Over NOVELTY OR The First Part of A just and seasonable Vindication of the undoubted Ecclesiasticall Iurisdiction Right Legislative Coercive Power of Christian Emperors Kings Magistrates Parliaments in all matters of Religion Church-Government Discipline Ceremonies Manners Summoning of Presiding Moderating in Councells Synods and ratifying their Canons Determinations Decrees As likewise of Lay-mens right both to sit and vote in Councells here proved to be anciently and in truth none other but Parliaments especially in England both by Scripture Texts Presidents of all sorts and the constant uninterrupted Practices Examples of the most eminent Emperors Princes Councells Parliaments Churches and Christian States especially of our owne in all ages since their embracing the Gospell In Refutation of M r. Iohn Goodwins Innocencies Triumph My deare brother Burtons Vindication of Churches commonly called Independent And of all Anti-Monarchicall Anti-Parliamentall Anti-Synodicall and Anarchicall Paradoxes of Papists Prelates Anabaptists Arminians Socinians Brownists or Independents Whose old and new Objections to the contrary are here fully answered By William Prynne of Lincolnes Inne Esquire Jer. 6. 16. Thus saith the Lord Stand yee in the wayes and see and aske for the OLD PATHES where is the GOOD WAY and walk therein and yee shall find rest for your soules But they said Wee will not walke therein Luk. 5. 39. No man also having drunk OLD WINE straightway desireth NEW for he saith THE OLD IS BETTER Tertul. de Praescrip adver Haeres Ex ipso ordine manifestatur id esse Dominicum Verum quod sit priùs traditum id autem Extraneum Falsum quod sit posterius immissum Decem. 3. 1644. It is Ordered by the Committee of the House of Commons concerning Printing that this Book entituled Truth Triumphing over Falshood Antiquity over Novelty be printed by Mich. Sparke Senior John White London Printed by John Dawson and are to be sold by Michael Sparke Senior 1645. TO THE HIGH COVRT OF PARLIAMENT Right Honourable HAving had the Honour through Gods assistance to be a meane though cordiall Instrument of Vindicating The Soveraigne Power of Parliaments and Kingdomes in all Civill or Military affaires which concerne the State in Foure severall Volumes against all Opposites whatsoeever which they have for the most part satisfied or put to silence I expected a Quietus est from all other Controversies concerning the Iurisdiction of Parliaments especially in Ecclesiasticall matters which most imagined had been put to eternall silence when our Lordly Prelates lost their Votes and Session in Parliament by a publike Law But alas I know not by what evill Genius and Pythagorean Metempsychosis the Anti-Parliamentary Soules formerly dwelling in our defunct Prelates earthly Tabernacles are transmigrated into and revived in a New-Generation of men started up of late among us commonly known by the Name of INDEPENDENTS who though for the most part really cordiall in their Affections Actions to the Parliament and Church of England for which and for their piety they are to bee highly honoured yet some of them are of late become extremely derogatory and destructive unto both in their Anarchicall and Anti-Parliamentary Positions For which and for their late gathering of Independent Churches contrary to Your Parliamentary Injunctions they are to be justly blamed as great disturbers of our publike Peace and Vnity It is the observation of learned Voetius and Vedelius That the Arminians in the Netherlands for the advancing of their owne Faction and more facill accomplishment of their private ill Designes did before the Synod of Dort and in the beginning thereof exceedingly cry up the Power of the Civill Magistrate and States of Holland in Ecclesiasticall matters both by Writing and Preaching ascribing to them the highest Jurisdiction and Power of giving ultimate Judgement in all Controversies of Faith and Ecclesiasticall matters arising in the Church as a Prerogative belonging immediately under Christ to them alone And thereupon they appealed to the States from the Ecclesiasticall Classes as the proper Iudges of the Controversies they had raised in the Belgick Churches But at last after the Synod of Dort had determined against their Arminian Errors and the States established their Determinations prohibiting the Preaching or Printing of any Arminian Tenets with the private Independent Congregations and Conventicles of the Arminian Party they presently altered both their opinions and practice crying downe the Authority of the States and Civill Magistrate as fast as they had cryed it up both in their Apologies and Sermons contracting yea denying them that very power which before they had so liberally measured ●ut unto them affirming that the States had no power at all over their private Congregations that it was not any right or part of their Office to obliege men by their authorities to the Decrees of Synods however agreeable to the word of God and that they ought not to use any coactive Power or Authority in such cases to obliege them to conformity This Practice of the Arminians was by M r Thomas Edwards by way of prediction applied to the Independents in these very tearmes And it may be feared however these Apologists NOW to ingratiate themselves and being let alone in their Church-way say they give more to the Magistrates than the Presbyteriall and that they professe to submit and to be most willing to have recourse to the Magistrates Iudgement and Cognizance and Examination of Ecclesiasticall Causes yet when they shall come once to be crossed and the Parliament by the advice of the Assembly to settle the Government of the Church and by their Authority to bind them to things agreeable to the word wee shall see then what they will say of the Magistrates Power There are too many speeches already since the Assembly out of their feare how they may goe which have fallen from many Independents THAT PROGNOSTICATE THEY WILL DOE BY THE PARLIAMENT AS THE REMONSTRANTS DID AFTER THE SYNOD OF DORT BY THE STATES Which Prognostication hath fallen out accordingly For since that time our Independents having felt the Pulses of the Assembly and Parliament bearing but very gently by way of debate against their Anarchicall and Anomolous New-Way derived from their good friends the German Anabaptists and Separatists and supported only with their Arguments as I am fully able to demonstrate they have not only in Presse and Pulpit cryed up their Way as the Onely Way Kingdome and Scepter of Christ and denyed all opposition in word deed or thought against it as a direct FIGHTING AGAINST GOD and promoted it publikely and privately with all their Industry Policy Power setting up New Independent Congregations in every corner but even with open mouth pen hand contrary to their former Solemne Vowes Covenants Protestations which I feare they have over-much forgotten cryed downe and fought against the very Ecclesiasticall Power and Legislative Authority of the High Court of Parliament it self and Supreme Temporall Magistrates proclaiming
breach of Gods Laws with temporall punishments yet by this Gods Lawes become not temporall and unobligatory to the conscience So God on the other side may and doth 〈◊〉 the violation of just humane Lawes with spirituall and eternall punishments Majestrates being but his Vicegerents Deputies and the contempt of their just Lawes a contempt of God himselfe Therefore the Argument holds not The 5th Objection is this that the conscience only respects God therefore nothing can binde it but Gods owne Law which is spirituall I Answer That the conscience respects as well men as God Act. 24. 16 therefore the just Lawes of men as I have proved as well as of God 2ly The conscience looks upon the just Laws and precepts of men not meerly as human Lawes but as proceeding from the Ministers and Vicegerents of God himselfe whom they represent and whom God himselfe frequently enjoynes us to obey The 6th Is this No one man and by consequence not all mens consciences in the world may or can Iudge another mans conscience who standeth or falleth 〈◊〉 his owne Master Rom. 14. 4. 16. Ergo they cannot make Lawes to binde the conscience I Answer first that this text speakes only of privat Christians Judging one another in things indifferent as meates holy dayes c. when and where there is neither law of God nor man inhibiting the free use or refusall of them at the whole Chapter manifests Therefore it makes nothing against necessary ecclesiastical● Laws Canons obliging men to obedience even in point of conscience 2ly The Apostle expresly concludes in this very Chap. v. 14. to 23. That in case of giving scandal and offence to weak Brethren we ought to abstaine from the very use of lawful indifferent things even out of conscience of the scandall hurt don thereby not simply of the things themselves though there be no law of God or man restraining or altering the indifferency or lawfulnes thereof that without any impeachment of Christian liberty Therefore when necessary or convenient things meerly indifferent in their nature are enjoyned by Superiors just Laws or inconvenient indifferent things prohibited for the publick good or peace they ought much more to be submitted to without impeachment of christian liberty out of Conscience of the Law and scandall which would follow the volation thereof and in obedience to the generall Law of God which commands obedience to such Lawes The 7. Objection is this There is one Lawgiver which is able to save and to destroy to wit God● who art thou that judgest another Iam. 4. 12. Ergo none can make laws to bind the conscience but God I answer 1. that there is but one supream absolut Lawgiver which is God Is 33. 2. wch excluds not subordinat ones 2ly The Apostle saith not that there is ONLY one law-giver that can save and destroy neither will the words infallibly conclude there is but one such since humane law-givers can make Lawes to save or destroy the lives bodyes and Estates of men as appeares by Scripture and the Lawes of all Nations though not their Soules as they are meare humane Lawes but only collaterally as the wilful contempts and violations of them are sins breaches of the very law of God prescribing obedience to those Lawes in which sence they may secondarily destroy the very soules of men Thirdly This Text takes not away the power of making necessary temp●rall or Ecclesiasticall Laws for then no such Lawes could possibly be made by any But the meaning of the Apostle is this That onely God the Supreame Law-giver is able by his Law to make any indifferent lawfull thing necessary or unlawfull in it selfe in point of Religion or conscience and to change the meere indifferency of it into a thing simply good or evil and not humane Law-givers Therefore we should not judge or condemne one another in the use or neglect of those things which God himselfe hath left indifferent where there is no circumstance of scandall or contempt of humane Lawes to engage us to use or not to use them But it reacheth not to such humane Lawes Civill or Ecclesiasticall which command or prohibit things agreeable to the rules of Gods Word or things necessary and expedient for Order Decency Peace avoyding of scandall and other mischiefes which Lawes as Doctor Willet himselfe who makes this objection affirmes do binde the conscience notwithstanding this objected Text. And thus much for my Brothers first generall Objection His second is this That the Scripture holds forth and Christ in the New-Testament presoribes and layes down unto us but ONLY ONE and that a most compleat and exact forme of Church government and Discipline which ought not to be altered or varied from in the least title being a part of the Gospel and must be BUT ONE and THE SAME in all Nations Churches in all ages throughout the World precisely observed by all Churches without the least variation That the Independent way alone is this divine unalterable Evangelicall platforme Therefore nor King nor Parliament though assisted with a Synod of most pious and learned orthodox Divines justly may or can of right make any Ecclesiasticall binding Lawes for the government or Discipline of the Churches of Christ within their Jurisdictions it being indeed a meere adding to the Word of God prohibited under a curse Deut. 4. 2. c. 12. 22. Prov. 30. 6. Rev. 22. 18 19. Thus my deare Brother and other Independents Argue with more confidence than evidence of Scripture To which I answer first That though Christ and his Apostles have instituted in the Gospel all necessary Church-Officers as Evangelical Bishops Elders Ministers Deacons Pastors Teachers c. and likewise given some general rules for the Government and Discipline of his Church yet he hath neither instituted nor prescribed any such unalterable compleat exact forme of Church-government and Discipline in all ages and Churches in the New Testament as is pretended by many not evidenced by any My reasons are these First Because no such exact and punctuall platforme is or can be clearly demonstrated to us nor discovered by us in the Scripture upon most diligent scrutiny Quod non lego non credo hath alwayes been reputed a solid Argument in matters of Divinity and divine institutions The Apostle Heb. 7. 13. 14. argues thus negatively even in the point of Christs Priesthood because Moses spake nothing of the Tribe of Iudah concerning Priesthood And God himselfe argues thus Deut. 9. 12. 15. Ye saw no manner of similitude therefore ye shall make no likenesse or image of me I may safely argue negatively in like sort The Scripture speaks nothing of such an exact universall Platforme and we see no image or similitude of it in the Gospel Therefore there is no such Secondly Independents have been frequently pressed to shew us any such exactform of Church-government instituted and generally prescribed to all ages
then Heresie or hereticall Doctrin by such extravagant inferences and incoherent Arguments for fear you dishonour both your Master and your self 3. Though Christ hath left no absolute exact forme of Church-Government in Scripture for all Churches and Ages yet he hath left his Word to be a light to the feete and a Lanthorne to the pathes of all his Saints and Churches and said downe such generall Presidents rules and directions therein as may serve for ordering directing and regulating of all Churches herein yea he hath given us some more particular rules for some things which concerne the Government of his Churches The Scripture hath generall Rules for our faith life manners thoughts words actions apparell eating drinking praying preaching receiving the Sacrament c. applicable to all particular cases and occurrences concerning them though not particular punctuall rules for deciding all those cases of conscience and controversies that frequently arise concerning them yet Christ is not unfaithfull because he hath left his Church sufficient rules and meanes of salvation in generall or particular to bring it safe to heaven 4 The providing of godly and faithfull Ministers Magistrates and Governours of the Church to put good Laws Disciplin and Government in execution is a great part of Christs charge and care as well as providing his Word and a Government for his Church Will you charge Christ then with negligence and leaving his Church to six and seven because every Minister of Christ hath not the selfe-same measure of gifts and endowments to discharge his Ministery or because some Ministers are more negligent in their places then others and some sheep are left oft-times without a Shepheard or committed to a Iudas a Thiefe or to Wolve● false Teachers Seducers which teare and devoure instead of feeding them or because he set not up and maintained this forme of Church Government you now contend for as his and none else beside in all Churches for so many hundred yeares together but reserved this honour in this latter age to some of you or rather to the Anabaptists and Brownists your Predecessors herein to advance it Brother you may easily discerne by this where your owne pretended inconveniences and inferences will drive you at the last if you rely upon them I beseech you therefore as a loving Brother to forbeare them for the future 4. Whereas you object We should have a mad world of it if Civill States Magistrates Kings and Parliaments should set up such a Government 〈◊〉 they conceived to be agreeable to Gods Word and the good Lawes and Customes of their Realmes I answer 1. That it is your own position that every particular man and Church ought to walke according to the rule of their own consciences and judgement not anothers Christ only being Lord of their consciences If then a whole Kingdome Parliament Church or Realme shall conceive and be perswaded in their consciences that such and such a Church Government is most consonant to Gods Word most suiteable to their condition and therefore shall upon solemne debate after much seeking of God by Prayer and Fasting make choise of this government before another as by electing a Presbyteriall rejecting an Independent way What madnesse or inconvenience meer slavery tyranny humane inv●ntions superstitions or corruption will this introduce Shall they be Hereticks presently for such a choise as you define them Shall private men have more liberty of choise or conscience then whole Nations Synods Parliaments or more wisedome temper knowledge discretion conscience then they Indeed I have read of one Parliament stiled the Mad and another the unlearned because there were no Lawyers in it and no doubt both Parliaments Councells Synods generall Assemblies may and doe sometimes erre and that grosly as well as private persons or congregations But doubtlesse all reasonable men will and must acknowledge that two are better then one a whole Court of Iustice lesse liable to errour and corruption then a particul●r Judge a whole Parliament then a Committee an whole Synod then a private Conventicle or congregation Then tell me in sober sadnesse good Brother whether your Independent Assertion That every particular Minister hath power to gather and set up a Church of his owne Independent from any other and to choose such a Discipline Government to themselves as they CONCEIVE to be most suiteable to Gods Word though in truth it be not so but a meer CONCEITE as I feare your New way is That particular Christians have power to unite themselves into a Church and elect a Minister and Government of their owne choise most agreeable as they thinke to the Word And that every Sect and Person ought to have free liberty of conscience in the exercise of what they beleeve Or my Position be likely est to produce more madnesse in the world or mischiefes in the Church Certainely it will be a madder world and Church too indeed when every private Minister and Christian may follow their owne opinions fancies crochets waies every Sectary set up his owne congregation sect and vent his owne erronious schismaticall Opinions without control when every man shall have priviledge to doe What seemes right in his owne eyes as if there were no King in Israel no Parliament in England when every Anabaptist Enthusiast or brainsick Melancholico shall not only build Churches in the ayre different from all others but set them up openly in our Cities Counties Kingdomes without impediment in contempt of Lawes Parliaments all Civill or Ecclesiasticall Authority as too many I feare doe now and I hope the High Court of Parliament will remedy it in due time because they deem their owne fancies Gospel their owne Juventions Christs Oracles Certainly the world and Church will both be mad in good earnest when such a licentiousnesse shall be proclaimed under the Notion of Christian Liberty every mans own private way christned with the Name of Christs Kingdom c. though it hath small affinity with it The God of peace order of his infinite mercie preserve us safe from this Maniaca Insania this deadly madnesse into which we are running and hath already desperately seized upon the Braines and hearts of many My Brothers sixth Objection is this That Parliaments Councells Synods are not now infallible but subject unto errour many of them having erred and that grosly in former and late times That neither Parliament nor Assembly can now say as that Synod Act. 15. 28. It seemeth good to us and to the Holy Ghost they being not endued with an infallible spirit Therefore they can make no binding Determinations Lawes Canons Decrees in any Ecclesiasticall matters to oblige any particular Churches or christians Good Brother writes he for all your punctuall quotations of that Scripture Acts 15. you doe not all this while tell us that which is the maine of all which we finde in the 28. verse IT SEEMED GOOD TO THE HOLY
Articles of Religion and enjoyning subscription thereunto under penalties losse of Benefices and other Ecclesiasticall penalties Limiting likewise the age of such who are to be made Ministers ch 17. Concerning the Leases of Benefices and Ecclesiasticall livings with Cure 18. Eliz. c. 6. Concerning the taking away of Clergy c. 23 Eliz. c. 1. To retain the Queens Majesties subjects in their due obedience made against Jesuits Semenary Priests and others receiving Orders from Rome and the harbourers of them under capitall penalties 27. Eliz. c. 2. Against Jesuits Seminary Priests and such other disobedient persons 29. Eliz. c. 6. Concerning Recusants 31. Eliz. c. 1. Against Symony 35 Eliz. c. 1. Against Seperatists and Schismaticks refusing conformity to our Church Service and Liturgie who are lyable to imprisonment fines and other penalties for it by the Law ch 2. For restraining Popish Recusants to some certaine plate of abode 29 Eliz. c. 8. For confirmation of the Deprivation of divers Bishops and Deanes in the beginning of the Queens Raigne ch 22. Concerning the Bishop of Norwich are plentifull evidences of what I plead for In King James his Raigne I finde many Acts of Parliament asserting the Kings and Parliaments Ecclesiasticall jurisdictions as 1 Jacobi c. 1● Concerning the Kings Title to the Crowne ch 2. Concerning Archbishopricks and Bishopricks ch 5. For the due execution of the Statutes against Jesuites Seminary Priests Recusants ch 12. Against second marriages till former wives or husbands bee dead ch 31. For building a new Church in Melcombe Regis to be the Parish Church of Radepoll and for making the Church of Radepoll a Chappell to it 3 Jacobi c. 3. for a publick thanksgiving to Almighty God every yeare on the fift day of November for the deliverance from the hellish Gunpowder treason ch 4. For the better discovering and suppressing of Popish Recusants which prescribes a new oath of Allegiance ch 5. To prevent and avoyd danger which may grow by Popish Recusants which likewise prohibits the Importations of any Popish Books Agnus Dei Crucifixes c. ch 20. To restraine abuses of Players 21. Jacobi ch 17. Against Usury ch 20. To prevent and reforme prophane swearing and cursing The Statutes in King Charles his Raigne are punctuall evidences of the Soveraign Ecclesiasticall jurisdiction of our Kings Parliaments in all which we find not onely severall Committees appointed concerning Religion frequent in all Queene Elizabeths and King James their Parliaments but also sundry Statutes concerning Religion and Church-matters as namely 1 Carols c. 1. For punishing divers abuses committed on the Lords day 3 Caroli c. 1. For further reformation of divers abuses on the Lords day ch 2. To restraine the passing or sending of any to be Popishly bred beyond the Seas But the severall Acts Ordinances and Proceedings of this present Parliament concerning all matters of Religion Church government and Ecclesiasticall affaires are presidents beyond all exception The Acts already passed For suppressing the High-Commission disabling any Clergy-man to meddle with any temporall offices or to be Justices of Peace The taking away of Bishops Votes and their sitting in the House of Peers The severall Acts Votes Ordinances which have passed both House for abolishing all new Canons Plaralities Non-residence punishing of scandalous Ministers Sanctifying the Lords day Keeping of Monethly and other Fasts Celebrating speciall dayes of thanksgiving for sundry Discoveries Victories Prohibiting the printing of erroneous books Suppressing Antinomians Socinians Anabaptists and other Sectaries Abolishing all Innovations Superstitions Idolatreus pictures Images Altars Copes Tapers Royals c. Payment of Tythes Probate of Wills Ordination of Ministers and above all their nominating and convening an Assembly of conscientious pious reverend learned orthodox Divines to assist them in reforming all errors and corruptions in Doctrine Worship Government Discipline and establishing such a pure Worship and Church-government in our Realme as shal be most agreeable to Gods Word wherein they have made a large progresse already the Directory for Worship being now finished and we expect a full accomplishment of this much desired Worke ere long All these with infinite other particulars are a most satisfactory and unanswerable evidence of the Parliaments jurisdiction and Legislative power in all matters of Religion Worship Government Discipline and other Ecclesiasticall things or proceedings whatsoever none of which have ever been settled among us in any age in a legall and obligatory way but onely in and by Parliaments I shall close up these 〈◊〉 Domestick authorities with the Ordinance of both Houses of Parliament concerning the present Assembly of Divines wherein all may clearly discerne the jurisdiction of our Parliaments in all Church affaires matters of Religion and over the Assembly it selfe together with the Instructions or Ruled prescribed to the Assembly which they have punctually observed and submitted to not yet in print An Ordinance of the Lords and Commons in Parliament for the calling of an Assembly of learned and godly Divines and others to be consulted with by the Parliament for the setling of the Government and Liturgy of the Church of England and for vindicating and clearing of the Doctrine of the said Church from false uspertions and interpretations WHereas amongst the infinite blessings of Almighty God upon this Nation none is or can be more deate unto us then the purity of our Religion and for that as yet many things remaine in the Lyturgy Discipline and Government of the Church which doe necessarily require a further and more perfect reformation then as yet hath been attained And whereas it hath been declared and resolved by the Lords and Commons assmbled in Parliament that the present Church-Government by Archbishops Bishops their Chancellors Commissaries Deanes Deanes and Chapters Archdeacons and other Ecclesiasticall Officers depending upon the Hierarchy is evill and justly offensive and bu●thensome to the Kingdome a great impediment to reformation and growth of Religion and very prejudicial to the state and government of this Kingdome and that therefore they are resolved that the same shall be taken away and that such a Government shall be setled in the Church as may be most agreeable to Gods holy Word and most apt to procure and preserve the peace of the Church at home and neerer agreement with the Church of Scotland and other reformed Churches abroad and for the better effecting hereof and for the vindicating and clearing of the doctrine of the Church of England from all false calumnies and aspersions It is thought fit and necessary to call an Assembly of learned godly and judicious Divines who together with some members of both the Houses of Parliament are to consult and advise of such matters and things touching the premises as shall be proposed unto them by both or either of the Houses of Parliament and to give their advice and counsell therein to both or either of the said Houses when and as often as they shall be thereunto requited Be it therefore ordained by
Churches in the Bible yet none of them nor my dear Brother have hitherto been able to shew it though they have oft-times promised it Therefore we presume there is no such Shew us but some cleare Texts to manifest it and we will believe you without more dispute till then though you were Angels from Heaven we dare not credit you without a word to build on 3ly Because some Independents themselves one Anonymous who hath published a malicious Answer to me full of virulency against Presbytery the Scots positively deny any such universall platforme concurring fully with me in opinion Fourthly Because the Churches of God ever since the Apostles dayes have in severall Nations Republikes States and Conditions had different formes of Government Discipline Ceremonies administrations in some particulars as the Independent Congregations of Brownists Anabaptists Familists c. differ in sundry things of moment among themselves and yet have ever beene reputed true Churches of Christ The Churches of England Scotland France Geneva Germany Aethiopia Russia Greece Bohemia and the Netherlands vary one from another in their Government Discipline Rites Ceremonies in some points of Doctrine and are not Independent yet none of our Brethren I suppose will be so uncharitable as to deem them all Antichristian opposers of the Kingdome and Government of Christ and no true Churches as they must of necessity be if Church-government be a part of the Gospel one uniform unalterable Government universally prescribed to them all Fiftly Because the Gospel never intended to subvert diminish crosse or destroy the lawfull civill politicall Governments Lawes Customes of Kingdomes Nations Republikes which are Gods own Ordinance as well as Churchgovernment since one Ordinance of God doth not crosse or thwart another Now the lawfull Governments Customes Manners of most Nations Kingdoms Republiks being various different one from another the Gospel to be equally preached to them all some Church-government erected among them all and the condition of the Church whiles militant in this world being as full of changes as the Moone sometimes tossed with the boysterous waves almost drowned in the flouds of affliction Sometimes totally ecelipsed and driven into the wildernesse in one place yet slourishing or lesse troubled in another Othertimes in a prosperous peaceable condition Sometimes under Pagan or impious Princes and Magistrates other whiles under more or lesse pious Christian Kings and Governours sometimes in a more pure light some otherwhiles in a more corrupt ignorant condition Sometimes over-growne with haeresies schismes Innovations other-times holding forth the truth more clearly and purging out of all errors sometimes requiring a more sharpe and rigorous Discipline other-times a more milde and gentle Yea some Nations being more barbarous fierce obstinat vitious proner to some kinde of vices sins corruptions then others and so needing a Discipline Government somewhat discrepant from those who are more civell and ingenious Some using one gesture of prayer adoration administring the Sacrament some another as some bowing others kneeling others prostration some knocking of the breasts some bare-headed others covered some vayled others unvayled some sitting at the Lords Supper in one manner others in another Some kneeling others standing some using dipping others sprinkling others washing in baptisme some one kinde of tongue tone tune gesture in singing Preaching Praying others another which is all I meant in my first and second Queries by the manners and customes of the people which my deare Brother mis-interprets as meant of their superstitious and corrupt customes not their civill which I onely intended Some one forme of Temples Churches Tables Pulpits Chalices Vestments others another and all Nations not having the selfe-same opinion judgement of the lawfulnes or conveniency of one sort of Church-government as of another I conceive there was a kinde of necessity under the Gospel of leaving divets things in Church-government and Discipline more indeffinite and arbittary then under the Leviticall Law given onely to the Iewish Nation and that not for perperuity but till the Gospel came which see them free from that yoake of bondage and left them and all other beleevers at greater liberty than before This I conceive to be the true reason why there is no such precise universall set forme of Church-government and Discipline punctually prese●bed without the least variation to all Nations Churches in the New Testament as you say was to the Israelites in the old 6ly The Government and Discipline of the Churches of Christ hath bin alwayes more or lesse variable in every age and never continued uniforme constant unalterable in any age as the fundamentall Doctrines of the Church have done We are able to produce Professors of the Doctrines maintained in the Protestant Churches in all ages the Doctrine of the Gospel being universally the same and unalterable But no creature is able to demonstrate a succession of any one kind of Church-government discipline in all ages or Churches be it Presbyteriall Episcopall or mixt of both much lesse any series of Independent Churches Therefore certainly there is no such universall divine set forme of Church-government and Discipline essentiall to the being of a true Church prescribed in the Scriptures as some have fancied for then it would have had a being in some part or other of the world in all ages as well as the Doctrine of the Gospel and the Sacraments 7ly All Independents reach that there is no set forme of publick Prayer Liturgy preaching administring the sacrament in every particular nor yet of the matter or fashion of Churches Tables Chancels Vestments Gestures of Worship prescribed to all Churches Nations in all ages without variation yea they reject all set formes of publike Prayers administration of the Sacraments and Liturgies in Churches as Antichristian unlawfull or unexpedient at the least though they can hardly prove them such If then there be no set forme of publique Prayers Liturgy Preaching administring the Sacraments c. prescribed to all Churches in al ages without any variation and every Minister be 〈◊〉 at large to use his owne Method and manner of Praying Preaching administring the Sacraments Chatechising as Independents affirme provided it be generally consonant to the word Let them render me a solid reason if they can why there should be only one universall unalterable divineforme of Church-Government and Discipline precisely imposed on all Churches Nations ages alike without the least variation else they must of necessity grant as great a liberty and indefinitenes in the one as other and that there may be as many different formes of Church-Government and Discipline as of preaching praying Singing of Psalmes administring the Sacraments c. provided they be all decent agreeable to the generall rules of Scripture though not particularly prescribed therin 8ly All grant there is no immutable universall set forme of Civill Government prescribed to all Nations Republickes Cities Families Christian or Ethenicall 〈◊〉 they have a
and of absolute authority within it self subject to no other Jurisdiction then that of Christ his Word and Spirit and not to any other particular Congregation Synod or Nationall Church or humane power whatsoever Therefore the Parliament and Assembly can make no Canons nor Rules to binde it nor presc●ibe any Church-government or Discipline to it Brother this is the summe of your whole Book and it grieves me to see so many strange Parodoxes piled up together to support an Independent Fabrick by one of your yeares and Iudgement Give me leave therefore to discover your manifold over-sights in this particular by such demonstrations as you shall not be able to gain say First then I say that the whole Church of Christ is but one intire Mysticall Body whereof Christ is the supreame Spirituall Head and Governour and all particular Churches only members of this intire Body as the head hand feet are members of the Naturall Body not absolute bodies of themselves as every house or Parish in a City is a member of the whol City Every Company or Regiment in an Army a member of that Realme not absolute bodies Cities Armies Kingdomes of themselves That this is truth we have sundry expresse Resolutions of Scripture in positive tearms as the 1 Cor. 12. 12 13 14. 26. 27. and in truth the whole Chapter Ephes ● 22 23. c. 2. 14. 15. to the end c. 4. 11. to 17. c. 5. 23. to 33. Col. 1. 18. 24. c. 2. 17. 19. which you may peruse at leisure Ephes 4. 3. to 7. Endeavouring to keepe the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace For there is ONE BODY one Spirit one Lord one Faith one Baptisme One God and Father of all who is above all and through all and in all And John 17. 20. 21. 23. Neither pray I for these alone but for them also which shall believe on me through their word THAT THEY ALL MAY BE ONE as thou father art one and I am in thee that they also MAY BE ONE IN US and may be made perfect IN ONE Hence the Scripture usually expresseth the whol Catholike Church of Christ which allages hitherto have believed to be but one so far as to make it an Article of their Creed under singular titles as the Church A WOMAN MY LOVE MY DOVE my Sister my Spouse a Garden a Vineyard a City a Congregation an Assembly Sion Jerusalem an House a Flocke a Body and the like to note it unity that it is but ONE intire spirituall Corporation though distributed into severall particular Congregations scattered ●ver the face of the whole World This being an indubitable verity strikes off the head of your Galiah and subverts the very foundation of Independent Congregations which would be absolute and compleat spirituall Bodies within themselves and no members of a Catholike or Nationall Church Secondly If all the particular Churches in the World bee in reality but one intire Body and Church of Christ then by the self-same reason likewise all the particular Congregations within one Nation Kingdome Republike united in one civill Corporation under one Head and temporall government are but one and the selfe-same Church and members one of another not absolute Independent Congregations of themselves subordinate to no other even as all the particular persons in a House make up but one Family all the particular Houses Parishes in a City but one City all the severall Cities Counties in a Kingdome one Realme and all the Nations on the earth but one world of men These cleare principles of Divinity Policy Nature experience none can or may deny unlesse he hath lost his sences or means to subvert all humane Relations and Societies And my Brother acknowledging the whole Nation of the Jewes to be but one intire Nationall Church though divided into sundry Synagogues and particular Congregations as is evident by Acts 15. 24. FOR MOSES OF OLD TIME hath IN EVERY CITY them that Preach him being read in THE SYNAGOGVES EVERY SABBATH DAY compared with Psa 74. 8. Matth. 6. 2. 5. c. 7. 1. 8. c. 9. 35. c. 23. 34. Mark 1. 21. 23. 29. 39 c. 3. 1. n. 5. 22. Luke 4. 15. to 44. c. 13. 10. c. 21. 12. John 6. 59. c. 9. 22. c. 18. 20. c. 10. 2 Acts 9. 2. 20. c. 13. 5. 14. 42. c. 14. 1. c. 17. 1. 10. c. 18. 4. 7. 13. 26. c. 19. 8. c. 22. 12. must of necessity subscribe to this conclusion issuing naturally from it that all particular Congregations in any one Christian Realm Nation Republike are but one intire Church though divided into severall squadrons for necessity and conveniency as one house is into many Roomes one City into many Streets Parishes companies wards one Kingdome into divers Counties Provinces One Parliament into severall Houses Sub-Committees as there is occasion one Armie into severall Regiments Brigades Companies Troopes Thirdly It is at clear as Noonday That in all Civill or Ecclesiasticall Corporations Congregations or Societies of men united into one common Politique Body the whol body or greater part hath by the Law of God Nature Nations a lawful inherent jurisdiction over every particular member or lesser part to make Laws and common Rules to obliege them for the safety peace benefit of the whol Body In all Parliaments Councels of State or War Cities Corporations Societies Courts of Iustice Chapters Committees yea in all elections of Magistrates Ministers Knights or Burgesses of Parliament Majors of Cities Masters Wardens of Companies heads or fellows of Colledges Church-wardens and the like the whol Body or major voyce bindes the lesser number all the whol body ever over-rules the parts And it must needs be so els there could be no Rule Order Government in any of them if one member only or the lesser part should over-rule and prescribe Lawes unto the whole or greater part not they to them The like rule holds firme and hath ever taken place 〈…〉 ●●mall generall Nation Provinciall Parochiall or Congregation 〈…〉 Synods Convocations Assemblies or meetings in all matters of 〈…〉 Discipline Government Lawes Rules Edicts Censure Descition 〈…〉 Yea in Independent Churches themselves the Votes Orders 〈◊〉 determinations of the whole or major part of the Congregation binde all the other dissenting as well as consenting members neither will any Independent Congregation admit of any into their new society but such who shall first submit to the Covenant Orders Government Rules and Discipline that Congregation or the major part thereof hath elected established Fourthly It is a principle of the Law of Nature and common Reason which all Republikes Churches Societies of men in every age till this present have admitted that the Lawes Ordinances Decrees of the greatest Civill or Ecclesiasticall Assemblies where the whole Realme Republike Church or Nation are personally or representatively present by their deputies or Proxies obliege all inferiour Corporations Societies Churches Congregations Persons within their
severall Iurisdictions to submission and reall obedience especially when just and agreeable to Gods Word or at least to passive whiles in force where unjust or contrary to the Word Hence the publike Laws Ordinances Edicts of Parliaments and general Assemblies of the Estates have in all Kingdomes Ages without the least dispute oblieged regulated all Corporations Societies Persons within their severall jurisdictions because they are the Representative Body and supreame power of those Realms where all are virtually present and consenting when all or the major part at least assent Hence the whole World have ever held the determioations Creeds Canons Decrees of Oeumenicall Nationall or Provinciall Councels ratified by Emperors Kings and Parliaments obligatory in point of jurisdiction to all Churches persons within their jurisdictions And in truth the chiefe end use of Parliaments Councels Synods approved by God and the higher powers ordained by him is not to advise admonish perswade debate or deliver their opinions of doubts errors mischiefes for this every private man hath power to do and containes no stampe of jurisdistion Power or Authority in it But authoritatively to prescribe Lawes Canons Rules and determinations oblieging otherrs to obedience under paine of exemplary censures and penalties Sixthly It cannot be gainsayd but every man and woman in the world considered meerly as such or as single persons stript of all their naturall civill or Ecclesiasticall relations are of equall Authority and have no jurisdiction power or superiority at all one over another no more than fellow servants fellow Citizens or neighbors out of office have over one another yet look upon the selfe-same persons as they stand cloathed with their severall Relations as members of a family Corporation City Kingdome Church and their very relations make them subordinate and lyable to sundry superiour jurisdictions not only by way of counsell but command Thus children servants wives Pulpits are by a naturall relation established by a Morall Law and sundry divine Precepts subject to all the just Lawes Orders commands of their Parents Masters Husbands not onely by way of Counsell or advise which they may obey or reject at pleasure but of Iurisdiction and Authority so farre as to be enforced to obedience and justly punished for disobedience or neglect according to the quality of the offence and contempt Thus inferiours of all sorts in a politicke relation onely as subjects to their Princes to all subordinate Magistrates Officers in their respective places of power Kingdomes to their Parliaments Cities to their Majors Aldermen and Common-Councell Companies to their Masters Wardens and Assistants Souldiers to their Generals Commanders of all Rankes Schollars to their Tutors Colledges to their Rectors mariners to their Masters both by the Law of God Nature Nations Dictat of common reason are subject to all just orders Mandates of these their superiours to which they must yeeld obedience● under paine of such punishments as are answerable to their contempt and disobedience The same rule and reason holds as firmely in all Ecclesiasticall Relations Take severall private Christians as Christians or severall Parishes or Congregations as they are such and it is certain one of them hath no Iurisdiction nor power at all over another in any Ecclesiasticall matters either to prescribe Lawes to or inflict censures upon one another but only a power to exhort admonish reprove advise or assist one another in a brotherly way But yet looke upon the selfe-same particular persons Churches as Members of a Parochiall or Nationall Church and then in this Relation they are and ought to be subject to the just rules precepts Canons Orders of the Ministers and whole Congregation of which they are Actuall Members even in point of conscience and every particular Church must and ought readily to submit to the just Canons Constitutions Orders determinations Ecclesiasticall Censures of the whole Representative Nationall or Provinciall Church Councell ●ynod ratified by Authority of Parliament in a Regular way under paine of Ob●inacy Contempt Disobedience and exemplary punishment there being the selfe-same reason and equity for severall combined Churches in a Councel Synod Presbytery to have a coe●cive power over every particular Church within their limits as for any particular Congregation to claim or exerise a jurisdiction in point of direction or correction over any or every particular member of it Our Independents no doubt will grant that if two or three severall Congregations unite themselves into one Church they do by vertue of this union become all lyable to the Iurisdiction Canons Orders Determinations Censures of that one Church and those who whiles divided had no authority nor power but onely of their owne members have by this union a Iurisdiction over the Members of all these Churches thus eonjoyned into one As it is with several persons united into one Corporation Society Church or when severall powers Or jurisdictions meet and joyne together in one as the Parliaments Commissioners Armies of two Provinces Kingdome in one Parliament Councel Army the Lords Commons Knights and Burgesses of every County Citty Town and Burrough in both Realmes in one Parliament they have by this their union the whole power and authority of both united Kingdomes Armies Parliaments and a joynt Iurisdiction over both which they had not before whiles seperated even as a Major or King hath when as severall Cities Townes Villages Kingdoms as our ancient Saxon Heptarchy are all conjoyned into one City Realm and therby subordinated to one new Iurisdiction If this then must be yeelded to me it will inevitably follow by the selfe-same reason that severall particular Churches being united together in one Synod Councell Assembly Parliament or Presbytery even for this very end and purpose to prescribe such generall Canons erect such a uniforme Church-government and Discipline for the publicke peace and benefit of the Church as shall equally binde all Churches victually present and combined in it must have a lawfull Iuridicall Legislative power in them to make such Laws Canons as shall binde all particular Congregations not onely as advises or brotherly counsels but as vigorous Lawes which subject the particular persons or Churches who transgresse or contemne them to condigne punishment as the reasons Scriptures formerly alleaged to prove that humane Lawes obliege the conscience in point of obedience abundantly demonstrate These uncontrolable verities never yet so much as doubted in any Age till this clearely discover the falsity and vanity of my Brothers objection to which I will give this further direct answer 1. I deny that every particular Church or Congregation in a Christian State where there are many adjacent Churches under the selfe same Civill Government is an absolute compleat independent Body City or Republike of it selfe as is objected to all intents and purposes without dependency on or relation or subordination to any other True it is that in some respects so far as concerns its own private interest it is a compleate body having a Minister
not onely in their Pulpits but likewise in sundry late Pamphlets wherewith they have filled the World That every particular Congregation of visible Saints and Independent Church is under the Government of Christ alone as the ONELY Head King Governour Law-giver of it and subject TO NO OTHER IVRISDICTION then that of Christ his word and Spirit That NO POWER ON EARTH NOR EARTHLY LAW-GIVERS MAY CAN OR OVGHT TO GIVE LAWES FOR THE GOVERNMENT OF THIS REPVBLIKE nor claime nor exercise an Headship or undertake the Government of this Body That neither KINGS NOR PARLIAMENTS NOR SYNODS have any Authority to prescribe Lawes or Rules for the Churches Government to order the affaires of Christs Kingdome or institute the Government of his Churches or to make coactive Lawes in any Ecclesiasticall matters to bind the conscience of any Church or Christian to outward conformity or inflict any mulcts or penalties for contempt or disobedience Christ onely being the Lord of mens consciences which ought to be left at liberty That the Members of the Parliament are chosen but by a secular Root by the Generality and Riffe Raffe of the world Papists Atheists Drunkards Swearers Men voyd of the knowledge feare and grace of Christ And therefore the Independent Brethren conceive as great AN IMPOSSIBILITY that a Legitimate Ecclesiastick Power should according to the mind of Christ bee by them conferred upon any men or that they should have any Power or Authority from Christ to nominate or appoint who shall bee the men by vertue of such nomination or election to enact Lawes and Statutes in matters of Religion and to order under mulcts and penalties how men shall worship and serve God as it is in Jobs expression to bring a cleane thing out of an uncleane That the Parliaments claiming or exercising any such Ecclesiasticall Power or others attributing of it to them is a meanes to awaken the eye of Jealousie upon them and seven times more destructive and under-mining of not onely their Power but Honour Peace nd Safety also than any thing that is found in the Independent Way so ill entreated That it is a claiming of the sacred and incommunicable Royalties of Heaven an accounting it no Robbery to make themselves equall with God and such an high provocation in the eyes of the Most High as IF CONTINVED IN by the Parliament will kindle a fire in the brest of him whose name is Jealous which will consume and devoure Yea one of them puts this Question If the whole Kingdome may deny obedience unto Popish Acts and Canons or upon any other like just occasion and they themselves bee Judges whether the occasion bee just or no Whether MAY NOT INDEPENDENTS a part of the Kingdome onely doe the like in all respects Or Whether ought they because a Lesser part of the Kingdome yeeld obedience to Popish Acts and Canons because a Major part approve of and agree with a Parliament and Synod in approving them What if they should be for Popery again Judaisme or Turcisme t is no offence to make a Quere nor impossible to come to passe the greatest part of those that chose our Parliament men being thought to be Popishly or Malignantly affected c. Putting divers such like Queries destructive to the very fundamentall Power and Being of Parliaments and as bad or worse than the Popish Gun-powder Plot to blow up the Soveraign Ecclesiastick and Civill Authority of this High Court in all succeeding Ages These with infinite other Anti-Parliamentall Anti-Synodicall and Anti-Monarchicall Paradoxes at which I professe I stand amazed have not onely dropped from the Lips but Pens of sundry Independents who have avowed them publikely in Print with their Names affixed to their Bookes even before the face of Your Right Honourable Parliamentary Assembly and Supreme Tribunall in such open affront and high contempt of Your undoubted Rights Power Priviledges which Your Honours and wee all are obliged by Late Solemne Oathes Covenants Protestations to defend maintaine with our very Lives and Estates and to discover oppose all others who shall invade them to our uttermost power as I am confident no Age nor History can ever parallel in the least measure the very Malignant Prelates and Anti-Parliamentary Cavaliers having not proceeded in this kind so farre as they which I speake with deepest griefe of heart and spirit out of Conscience of that common Vow and Covenant which bindes mee to discover oppugne reveale abhorre it and detestation of their most pernicious Assertions not out of the least malice or hatred to any of their Persons What the Independents end of publishing these desperate Anti-Parliamentary Paradoxes should be unlesse to prepare their party and all others as much as in them lies utterly to reject whatever publike forme of Church-Government Discipline Reformation and Directory of Worship Your Honours by the advice of the Reverend Assembly shall establish in our Church for the future after all your serious consultations debates paines Prayers and Fastings about it and to set up their owne Anomolous Platforme which they averre is Christs Kingdome and Government and which may upon probable and higher grounds than of reason bee thought in time to overthrow and put downe all other Governments whatsoever and to stand up alone in their stead since Christs Kingdome shall stand up when all opposite earthly Kingdomes like earthen vessells shall with an Iron Rod bee dashed in peeces Which they close up with a Faxit Deus festinet in despight of Your Authority and all humane Power whatsoever I cannot conjecture And their owne late printed Passages with Mr. Iohn Goodwins Sermon that it would be more easie for him and hee should rather yeeld to bee torne in pieces by wild horses than submit to such a Government which proceeded from a Parliament chosen by the Riffe-raffe of the world c. intimate and expresse as much Which what an high contempt it is against Your undoubted Power and pious Ecclesiasticall proceedings in Reforming setling the Doctrine Discipline and Government of our Church the grand desire and prayer of all wel-affected spirits I most humbly submit to Your saddest thoughts and deepest wisedomes who have both Power and Authority in Your hands to suppresse incomparable Prudence and Providence to prevent these growing dangerous Insolencies before they become Masterlesse or Epidemicall past Your cure Farre be it from my thoughts to exasperate Your Power or Iustice against any Delinquents of this kind some whereof are so neare and deare unto mee that it is my heaviest affliction to mention their extravagancies in this kind of which I trust they and all their followers will be now ashamed and a Brotherly Admonition to their Persons though their Writings undergoe the sharper Censure will I hope induce them upon second thoughts both to discerne lament recant their fore-mentioned Paradoxes and abhorre themselves for them even in dust and ashes as one of them professeth hee will doe in case hee be convinced And
c. Levit. 8. 3 4 5 c. c. 19. 2. Deut. 29. 2 3. c. 31. 2 3 c. 28. 29. 30 c. Of Joshua c. 8. 33 35. c. 22. 11 to 34. c. 23. 2 to 16. c. 24. 1 to 29. Of the chiefe Magistrates of the Israelites Judg. 20. 1 to 12. Of David King of Israel 1 Chron. 13. 1 to 6. c. 28. 1 2 3. c. 29. 1. to 26. Of King Solomon 1 King 8. 1 2 3. c. 2 Chron. 5. 2. c. Of King Asa 2 Chron. 15. 8 to 16. Of Jehoshaphat 2 Chron. 20. 3 4 5. c. Of Jehojada 2 Chron. 23. 1 to 20. Of King Joash 2 Chron. 24. 4 to 15. Of King Hezekiah 2 Chron. 30. 1 to 27. c. 31 1 to 5. Of King Josiah 2 Chron. 34. 29 to the end c. 35. 1 to 20. Of Nehemiah c. 8. 1. to 18. c. 9. 1 c. Of Mordecai and Esther Esth 9. 17 to 32. And in defect of Christian Kings and Magistrates the Apostles and whole Church by mutuall consent assembled together in a Synod Acts 6. 15. as the high-Priests Scribes and Elders met together and assembled in their Sanhedrim by temporall authority Matth. 26. 57. c. 27. 1. Mark 14. 51. 55. c. 15. 1. Luk. 22. 66. Acts 4. 5 6 7. c. 5. 21. to 42. c. 6. 12. c. 22. 30. c. 23. 1. 2. For forraigne historicall authorities in all ages and Churches of note Socrates Scholasticus records That since the Emperours were first christian the State of the Church hath hanged on them and the greatest Councels have been and be kept by their advice yea by their summons writs and edicts The first famous generall Councell of Nice was called by Constantine the great the first Christian Emperour Eusebius writes that Constantine not the Pope gathered this generall Councell and by honourable Writs called together the Bishops on every side that they should hasten thither Theodoret This great and holy Councell was gathered to Nicaea by the grace of God and by the godly Emperour Constantine Cassiodore That the zeale of the Prince raised up that most famous Councell at Nicaea who commanded the Bishops and their attendants to come to the Synod on publike Asses Mules and Horses which he provided for them Nicephorus Callisthus That Constantine promulged that most famous Synod of Nice in Bithynia and by his Letters summoned thither the Bishops of all places by a set day and among the rest Pope Julius who by reason of his decrepite age sent Vitus his Presbyter for his Proxie The like writes Sozomen in the same words The Councell of Rome under Pope Meltiades was convented by the same Constantines Writ and here saith Eusebius is a copy of the Emperours Writ whereby he commanded a Councell of Bishops to be kept at Rome And Saint Hieroni To stay certaine Ecclesiasticall dissentions the Emperours writs caused as well the Bishops of the East as of the West to draw to Rome Yea the Councell of Orleance in France and that of Tyrus removed from thence to Ierusalem by the Emperours Letters were both summoned by Constantines Writs The second generall Councell of Constantinople was called by Theodosius the elder the Emperour write Theodoret Sozomen and Nicephorus commanded a Synod of Bishops to meet together in one place out of the provinces of his Empire to confirme the Decrees of the Nicene Councell and the Bishops therein wrote thus to the Emperour We are come to Constantinople by your Majesties commission The third generall Councell at Ephesus was congregated by the younger Theodosius Ex edicto pietatis studiosissimorum Imperatorum sanctum universale concilium Ephesi coactum writes Evagrius with Laurentius Surius and the Bishops themselves in the prologue thereof Cum ex pio edicto coacti essemus in Ephesiorum Metropoli And so farre was Pope Leo from conceiving the right of calling Councels to belong to him that he besought the Emperour Theodosius by an Epistle in these words We beseech your godly Majesty to grant our supplication that you would command a Councell of Bishops to be holden within Italy which Epistle not prevailing he writes another to him in these words All our Churches and all our Priests beseech your Clemencie with sobs and teares that you will command a generall Councell to be held within Italy which yet he denied to grant and summoned the same at Ephesus notwithstanding these intreaties After which this same Pope intreated the Emperour Martianus that it would please his Majestie to command a general Councell and writ to the Clergy and people of Constantinople to make suit with discreet and humble prayer that our most gracious Emperour would vouchsafe to grant our request in that we have desired a generall Councell Yea St Chrysostom being requested to do the like writes thus to Pope Innocent We went in and most humbly besought the most Christian Prince to call a Councell In like manner Sozomen records that the Arrians besought the Emperour Constantius to command a Councell to be holden at Antioch and after this intreated him to summon another Councell at Millain and that the Catholikes sent Hypatianus their Ambassadour to intreat the Emperour that to redresse certaine errours they might have leave to meet together So farre were they from redressing new errours much more then from framing printing Articles Canons Constitutions Oaths and imposing new Rites and Ceremonies as our Bishops lately did in their Episcopall Visitations that they durst not attempt to decree any thing positively against them without the Emperours speciall licence first obtained no not in a publike Councell much lesse in a private Consistorie But to proceed with generall Councels the fourth generall Councell at Chalcedon was assembled by the Emperours Valentinian and Martian Facta est Synodus ex decreto piissimorum ac fidelium Imperatorum Martiani Valentiniani saith the first Action of that Councell This Councell was first summoned by these Emperours to be held at Nice by severall Writs sent by them both to Pope Leo himselfe who was cited thereunto and sent his Proxie thither and to Anatolius Bishop of Constantinople with other Writs to the holy Bishops in all places recorded by Surius where they appearing at the day prefixed they sent two other Writs unto them to remove them from thence to Chalcedon because they could not be present at Nicaea whereupon the holy and universall Councell came together at Chalcedon secundum sacram praeceptionem according to their sacred command The fifth generall Councell at Constantinople was called by the Emperour Justinian Imperator Justinianus sanctam quintam synodum Oecumenicam Episcopis ecclesiarum omnium evocatis coegit writes Nicephorus and Justinian himselfe in his Letters to that Synod recorded by Surius recites that the Councell of Nice was congregated by Constantine the first Councell of Constantinople by Theodosius the elder the
Controversia 3 de Conci●●s Quaest 2. p. 577. to 585. Doctor Willets Synopsis Papismi Controversi 3. Concerning generall Councels Quaestion 2. Doctor John White his way to the true Church sect 29. n. 28. p. 111. Master Rogers his Analysis on the 21. Article Proposition 1. with sundry others whom I pretermit subscribe and justifie this truth against all Romish opposites And if these be not sufficient all the Reformed Churches in their several confessions registred in the Harmony of confessions cited by Master Rogers in his Analysis of the 21 Article with the whole Classe of their learned Writers unanimously resolve That the power of calling Councels Convocations Synods belongs not to Popes or Prelates but only to Christian Emperors Kings Princes and other chief temporall Magistrates which our late famous King James in the last place in his Letters Patents prefixed before the Canons and Ecclesiasticall Constitutions made in Convocation Anno 1603. ratifies to the full affirming that the Synod and Convocation at that time held was and ought to bee summoned and called only by vertue of his royall Writ The like is affirmed by our present Soveraigne King Charles in his Declaration before the 39. Articles and in his Patents Commissions licenses for making the last new Canons 1640. and resolved in the first Canon thereof From this 1. Proposition thus plentifully ratified by uncontrolable Presidents and publike Authorities of whole Synods Parliaments States in all ages which infinitely over-ballance the inconsiderable rash opinions of any private men I shall deduce these Consectaries 1. That the chiefest care of defending propagating the true Religion suppressing errors haeresies schismes vices and enacting Laws Canons for this end for the Churches peace Government and advancement of Gods true Worship belongs to Christian Princes or supreme temporall Magistrates and is an essentiall part of their duty because the right and trust of calling Synods Councels upon all such occasions is thus originally vested in them 2. That Synods Councels are very useful necessary profitable to the Churches of Christ if rightly ordered else God himself all Christian kingdoms states Churches would not have invested Kings supream civill Magistrates with such a power of convening them nor all Christian Kings Emperors but made so frequent use of this their power not onely without opposition but even with publike approbation yea such hath been the necessity and expediency of Synods and Councels in all Christian Churches in all ages That the generall Councell of Nice An. 363 the Councell of Antioch Can. 20. the first Councell of Constantinople Can. 3. the Councel of Africke Can. 18. the Councell of Chalcedon Can. 19. the third Councell of Toledo under King Reccaredus An. 600. cap. 18. the fourth Councell of Toledo under King Sisenandus An. 6●1 the Greeke Synods collected by Martin Bishop of Bracara cap. 18. the second Councell of Arelat Can. 2. the third at the same place Can. 1. and the fourth Can. 37. the second Synod of Towers Can. 1. the fifth Councell of Orleans cap. 11. the Councell of Hereford under King Egfred An. 670. the sixth Councell of Constantinople Can. 8. the Councell of Antricum Can. 7. the Councell of Mascon Can. 20. the Synod of Soissons under King Childeric the Councell under King Pepin at the Pallace of Vernis An. 755. cap. 4. the Councell of Paris under Lewis and Lothaire An. 829. the Councell of Meaux An. 845. cap. 32. yea the great Councell of Basill An. 1331. with sundry other Councels Decree that a Synod or Councell shall be kept twice or thrice or at the least once every yeare at a certaine time and place in every Province That all Bishops and others unlesse hindered by sicknesse or other inevitable occasions should be present at it and not depart from it till all businesses were ended and the Councell determined under paine of Excommunication that none should interrupt not keep back any necessary members from them Therefore certainly they are both expedient and necessary for the Church not uselesse antichristian diabolicall and pernicious to the Church as some Papists Arminians Socinians hertofore and Independents now scandalously ignorantly if not maliciously deeme them Sect. 2. THat Bishops and Clergie-men when assembled in Councels Synods and Convocations by Christian Princes and Magistrates have alwayes been limited and directed by them not onely for the time and place of their meeting but likewise for the manner and matter of their debates and proceedings having no power liberty to debate or determine any thing but what was first prescribed them by their summoners or by their speciall Licence first obtained With a touch of Princes and Laymens presiding judging voting in Synods and Councels Secondly As Bishops and Clergy-men cannot summon Councels or Convocations not yet assembled together in them but by the Princes and supreme temporall Magistrates authority who alwayes appointed both the time and place of their meeting continuance and dissolution as all ages Authors attest so when they are lawfully met in Councels they cannot debate determine any points of faith nor yet frame any Ecclesiasticall Canons Lawes Constitutions in them but by the Princes or Magistrates licence direction that summoned them who have always both abroad and at home prescribed them either in generall or speciall termes what things they should debate treat of and conclude in their Synods confining them to such particulars for the determination and ordering whereof they were convened as well as to the time and place of their assembling This is evident by sundry Presidents The first famous generall Councell of Nice and the Bishops therein assembled were thus licensed and limited by Constantine the great who fate President in it as Eusebius with others manifest at large The Bishops assembled by him in the Synod of Tyrus were limited likewise by him how to proceed and what to treat of as appears by his letters to them wherein after he had exhorted them to peace and unity he chargeth them not to delay but to define the present controversies with al earnest endeavour within those fitting bounds he there prescribed telling them That he had sent Dionysius the Consull to admonish them of all things they were to do and who ought to be present at their Synod Maximè vero ut idem animadversor sit custos conservandae aequalitatis ordinis but especially that he should be an observer and keeper of that aequability and order which he had prescribed to be observed in that Synod The Bishops assembled by Constantius his Edict in the Councell of Ariminum most humbly requested his Majesty of his gracious favour and wonted clemency to grant them license and lawfull favour firmely to persevere in those things which their ancestors had decreed and that nothing might be diminished or added unto the old and ancient decrees In the Councell held at Seleucia summoned by Constantius precept it was commanded by this
over them both in and out of Synods After this in the very height of Popery and the revivall of it in England in the first year of Queen Mary a Parliament and Convocation being summoned to re-establish Popery the Queen her selfe appointed and commanded a publike Disputation to be held at Pauls Church in London in the Convocation house about the matter of the Sacrament which was accordingly held and continued six whole dayes many Earles Lords knights Gentlemen and divers of the Parliament Court and City being present at it to the end that they might constitute Laws of the matters of Religion debated which the Queen and Parliament might ratifie The Disputation being ended The Queen sent a Writ to Bonner Bishop of London to dissolve the Convocation which was done accordingly So that this Convocation did nothing in matter of doctrine or discipline even in these times of Popery but what the Queen did first direct and limit them Queen Mary deceasing and Queen Elizabeth a Protestant Princesse succeeding her called a Parliament and Convocation to suppresse Popery and re-establish the Protestant true Religion To effect which with more facility this pious Queen having heard of the diversity of opinions in maters of Religion among sundry of her loving Subjects and being very desirous to have the same reduced to some godly and christian concord by the advice of the Lords and others of the Privy Councell as well for the satisfaction of persons doubtfull as also for the knowledge of the very truth in certain matters of difference commanded a convenient chosen number of the best learned of either part to conferre together their opinions and reasons concerning three particular points that should be prescribed to them thereby to come to some good and charitable agreement with all convenient speed Hereupon nine of the learnedst Papists were chosen on the one side and nine of the ablest Protestants on the other to debate these three Propositions prescribed to them in writing 1. It is against the word of God and the custome of the ancient Church to use a tongue unknown to the people in common Prayer and the administration of the Sacraments 2. Every Church hath authority to appoint take away and change Ceremonies and Ecclesiasticall Rites so the same be to edification 3. It cannot be proved by the word of God that there is in the Masse offered up a sacrifice propitiatory for the quick and the dead It was further resolved by the Queens Majesty that the conference on both parties should be in writing for avoiding much altercation of words that both sides should declare their minds opinions and reasons in writing and at the same day deliver them mutually one to the other to be considered and to return their answers thereto in writing by a certaine day Immediately herupon divers Nobles and States of the Realme understanding that such a meeting and conference should be in certain matters whereupon In the Court of Parliament consequently following some Lawes might be grounded they made earnest request to her Majesty that the parties of this conference might be ordered to put and read their Assertions in the English tongue and that in the presence of them of the Nobility and of The Parliament House for the better satisfaction and ordering of their owne judgements to treat and conclude of such Lawes as might depend hereupon This also being thought very reasonable was signified to both parties and so fully agreed upon and the day appointed for the first meeting to bee the Friday in the afternoone being the last of March at Westminster Church At which day and place both for good order and for honor of the Conference By the Queens Maiesties Commandement the Lords and others of the privie Councell were present and a great part of the Nobility also The Lord Keeper and the rest of the Lords bearing chiefe sway in ordering this conference as you may read at large in Master Fox in the second dayes discourse In this Conference I shall onely observe two passages of the Protestant party The first is the begining of their Prologue to their written Conference in these words For as much as it is thought good to the Queens most Excellent Majesty unto whom in the Lord all obedience is due that we should declare our Iudgement in writing upon certain Propositians We as becometh us to do herein most gladly obey The next is their third observation from the law of Justinian the Emperor commanding all Bishops and Priests to celebrate the holy oblation and prayers in Baptisme with an audible voyce c. And let them know this that if they neglect any of these things the dreadfull judgement of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ shall fall upon you neither will wee when wee know it rest and leave it unrevenged viz. That this Emperour being a christian did not only make Constitutions of Ecclesiasticall matters but also threatneth revenge and sharp punishment to the violaters of the same Therefore they held he had an obliging power over his Subjects and a coersiveauthority vested in him to enforce obedience to his Lawes of which more hereafter As this was the practise of this blessed pious Queen in the begining of her Raigne to prescribe to her Clergy in Convocation what they should treat off and how So it continued in use and was punctually submitted to by all Convocations during her Raigne and that not onely as a matter of complement but of conscience religion and the established doctrine of the Church of England as you may read at large in Bishop Jewels Apology of the Church of England and in the Defence of his Apologie against Harding part 6. c. 9. to 16. p. 689. to 766. a learned full discourse to this purpose and in Bishop Bilsons true Difference between Christian Subjection unchristian Rebellion the second part to omit all others who have handled this subject in her Raigne It seemes therefore strange to me that this which was reputed the true doctrine of the emmine●test learnedest writers Reformers of this Church and of the Church of England it selfe from the begining to the end of her happy Raign and ever since should bee deemed meere Antichristian Diabolicall theomacall and meer Popish doctrine now when as the contrary opinion is really such Our late Soveraigne King James in his Letters Patents before the Ecclesiasticall Canons and Constitutions made in Convocation A● 1603. recites that he called that Convocation by his Writ and that ●e did By severall Letters Patents under his Great Seale of England the one dated the 11. of April the other the 25. of Iune in the first year of his Raigne Give and grant full free and lawfull liberty power and Authority unto the sayd Clergy in their Convocation who without such a Patent and License could debate and conclude nothing else it had been vaine and superfluours To conferre Treat Debate Consider Consult and agree of and upon
such Canons Orders Ordinances and Constitutions as they shall thinke necessary fit and convenient for the honour and service of Almighty God and quiet of the Church and the better government therof c. And our present Soveraign King Charles in his Declaration printed before the 39. Articles of the Church of England made by the advise of so many of the Bishops as might conveniently be called twice printed by his speciall command An. 1628. resolves in these very words this point of his royall Prorogative derived from his Predecessors That We are supreame Governour of the Church of England and that If any difference arise about the externall policie concerning Iniunctions Canons or other Constitutions whatsoever thereto belonging the Clergy in their Convocation not the Bishops in their Consistories Visitations or high Commissions is to order and settle them having first obtained leave under Our broad Seale so to do and We approving their said Ordinances and Constitutions provided that none be made contrary to the Lawes and Customes of the Land What power our Kings have excercised in Convocations to direct and limit them in all their proceedings determinations Canons in former ages especially since 25. Hen. 8. c. 19. will appeare First by the forme of our Kings Writs for summoning a Convocation of which I shall give you onely one late president agreeing in forme and substance with all former Writs of this kinde CAROLVS Dei gratia Angliae Scotiae Franciae Hiberniae Rex fidei defensor c. Reverendissimo in Christo Patri ac fideli Conciliari● Nostro Gulielmo eadem gratia Cantur A chiepis totius Angliae Primati Metropolitano salutem Quibusdam arduis urgentibus negotiis Nos securitatem defensionem Ecclesiae Anglicanae ac pacem tranquilitatem bonum publicum Defensionem regni Nostri subditorum Nostrorum ejusdem concernentibus Vobis in fide dilectione quibus Nobis tenemini rogando mandamus quatenus remissis debito intuitu attentis ponderatis universos singulos Episcopos vestrae Provinciae ac Decanos Ecclesiarum Cathedralium nec non Archidiaconos Capitula Collegia totumque Cle●um cujuslibet diocesios ejusdem Provinciae ad comparendum coram vobis in Ecclesia Catholica sancti Pauli London decimoquarto die Aprilis proximè futuro vel alibi prout melius expedire videritis cum omni celeritate accommoda modo debito convocari facias ad tractandum consentiendum concludendum super premissis aliis quae tibi clarius exponentur tunc ibidem ex parte Nostra Et hoc sicut Nos Statum Regni Nostri ac honorem utilitatem Ecclesiae praedictae diligitis nulla tenus omittatis Teste meipso apud Westmonast vicesimo die Februarii Anno regni Nostri quintodecimo Secondly by the forme of the Kings royall License commonly granted to the Convocation before they may or can debate of any thing particularly the forme whereof you may discerne in this subjoyned directed to the last Convocation 1640. CHARLES By the Grace of God King of England Scotland France and Ireland Defender of the Faith c. To all to whom these presents shall come greeting Whereas in and by one Act of Parliament made at Westminster in the five and twentieth year of the Raigne of King Henry the Eighth reciting That whereas the Kings humble and obedient Subjects the Clergie of this Realme of England had not onely knowledged according to the truth that the Convocation of the same Clergie were alwayes had bin and ought to bee assembled by the Kings Writ but also submitting themselves to the Kings Majesty had promised in verbo Sacerdotii that they would never from thenceforth presume to attempt alledge claime or put in u●e or enact promulge or execute any new Canons Constitutions Ordinances provinciall or other or by whatsoever other name they should bee called in the Convocation unlesse the said Kings most Royall assent and license might to them be had to make promulge and execute the same and that the said King did give his most Royall assent and authority in that behalfe It was therefore enacted by the authority of the sayd Parliament according to the said submission and Petition of the said Clergie amongst other things that they nor any of them from thenceforth should enact promulge or execute any such Canons Constitutions or Ordinances provinciall by whatsoever name or names they might be called in their Convocations in time comming which alwayes shall bee assembled by authority of the Kings Writ unlesse the same Clergie might have the Kings most Royall assent and license to make promulge and execute such Canons Constitutions and Ordinances provinciall or Synodall upon pain of every one of the said Clergie doing contrary to the said Act and being thereof convict to suffer imprisonment and make fine at the Kings will c. Know ye that We for divers urgent and waighty causes and considerations Vs thereunto especially moving of Our especiall Grace certaine knowledge and meere motion have by vertue of Our Prerogative Royall and supream authority in Causes Ecclesiasticall given and granted and by these presents do give and grant full free and lawfull liberty license power and authority unto the most Reverend Father in God William Lord Arch-Bishop of Can●terbury Primate of all England and Metropolitan President of this Convocation for the Province of Canterbury and to the rest of the Bishops of the same Province and to all Deans of Cathedrall Churches Archdeacons Chapters and Colledges and the whole Clergy of every severall Diocesse within the said Province that they or the greater number of them wherof the said President of the said Convocation to be alwayes one shall and may from time to time during our will and pleasure propose conferre treat debate consider consult and agree upon the exposition or alteration of any Canon or Canons now in force and of and upon such other new Canons Orders Ordinances and Constitutions as they the said Lord Arch-bishop of Canterbury President of the said Convocation and the rest of the said Bishops and other the Clergie of the same Province or the greater number of them wherof the sayd Lord Arch-bishop of Canterbury President of the said Convocation to be one shall thinke necessary fit and convenient for the honor and service of Almighty God the good and quiet of the Church and the better government thereof to be from time to time observed performed fulfilled and kept as well by the sayd Lord Arch-bishop of Canterbury the Bishops and their successors and the rest of the whole Clergy of the sayd Province of Canterbury in their severall callings offices Functions Ministeries degrees and administrations as also by all and every Deane of the Arches and other Iudges of the sayd Arch-bishops Courts Guardians of Spiritualties Chancellors Deans and Chapters Archdeacons Commissaries Officialls Registers and all and every other Ecclesiasticall Officers and their inferiour ministers whatsoever of the same Province
Ed●arus Rex tandem potior emvocate ad Brandenfordiam Regni Concilio Patris Edwini acta decreta rescindit Ablatas Ecclesiis Monasteriis opes restituit c. This no doubt was a Parliament King E●gars Ecclesiasticall Lawes An. 967. have this Prologue which proves them made in full Parliament Leges quas Edgarus Rex FREQVENTI SENATV ad Dei gloriam regiae Majestatis ornamentum ac Reipublicae utilitatem sanciunt Hoc est institutum quod Edgarus Rex Consilio Sapientum suorum instituit c. Anno. 973. I finde a Councell held at London under King Edgar for the regulating of the Abbots and Monkes of Glastonbury and setling of their priviledges wherein King Edgar granted a Charter to this Abbey CONCILIO OMNIVM PRIMATVM MEORVM subscribed by himselfe and Alfgina his Mother Edward Clito his successor Kmedius King of Scotland Mascusus his Admirall Dunstan Archbishop of Canterbury Oswald Archbishop of Yorke caeterisque Episcopis OMNIBVS Regni PRIMATIBVS with others of his officers In the Councell of Winchester An. 975. assembled to determine the great controversie whether married Clerkes ought to bee preferred before monkes King Edgar and his Queen Elferus Prince of Mercians Ethelwin Duke of the East-Angles Elfwold his kinsman Archbishop Dunstan cum cae teris Episcopis Abbatibus c. Brithnotho Comite cum NOBJLITATE TOTIUS REGNS were present to decide this difference In the Councell of Calne Anno 977. called for the same purpose there were present praeter Episcopes caeterum clerum TOTIVS Angliae Majores Natu Omnes aderant Aaglorum Optimates Rege tamen propter teneram aetatem absente There were at it Praesules PROCERES EQVITES NOBILES PARITER IGNOBILES Omnium ordinum conspicui clarique viri write our Historians Anno 1005. King Aethelred granted Lands and priviledges to the Monkes of Christ-Church in Canterbury by his Charter confirmed and subscribed in a Parliamentall Councell as well by his Nobles as Prelates and Abbots as you may read in the subscriptions themselves Anno 1009. There was a generall Councell at Eanham Concilium Aenhamense generale seu Pan-anglieum Optimatibus celebratum In this Councell there were thirty two Canons made which begin thus Haec sunt Constitutiones quaetulerunt Angli eruditi eligerunt etiam edixerunt instanterque docuerunt observandas This writes Spelman was doubtlesse a Parliament Regium fuisse certum est Aenhamense Concilium tum quod edicto Regis cogebatur de rebus statuit ad ecclesiasticos non pertinentibus tum quod in festo habebatur Pentecostes in quibus celebritatibus convocare Reges ex antiqun consuentudine soliti orant Proceres suos utriusque ordinis ad festum Regium adornandum consilia Regni ineunda yet its decrees are stiled SYNODALIA The Ecclesiasticall lawes of king Aethelred Anno 1012. have this Inscription Haec instituerunt Rex Aethelredus SAPIENTES ejus apud Habam They were made in full Parliament not in a Convocation of the Clergy and intermixed with secular Lawes The Councell of Winton under Canutus Anno 1021. begins thus Haec sunt statuta Canuti Regis Anglorum c. Venerando sapientum ejus Concilio ad laudem gloriam Dei sui regalitatem commune commodum Rex Canutus anno regni sui 5. cunctos regni sui Praelatos Proceresque ac Magnas ces ad suum convocans Parliamentum in suo publico Parliamento persistentibitpersonaliter in eodem Wolstano Adelnodo A chiepiscopis Ailwine Episcope Elmhamense alijs Episcopis ipsorum Suff aganeis septem Ducibus cum totidem Comitibus nec non diversorum Monasteriorum nounullis Abbatibus cum quamplurimis gregarijs Militibus ac cum populi multitudine copiosae ac omnibus tunc in eodem Parliamento personaliter existentibus votis Regijs unanimiter consentientibus praeceptum decretum fuit Quod monasterium sancti Edmundi c. sit ab omni jurisdictione Episcoporum Comitatus illius ex tunc in perpetuum funditus liberum exemptum c. This Councell was clearely a PARLIAMENT and so expresly stiled The Ecclesiasticall Laws of K. Knute An. 1032. were made in Parliament not in Convocation as appeares by this proaeme Consultum quod Canutus Aaglorum Dacorum Norvegiensium Rex ex SAPIENTUM CONCILIO ad Dei immortalis Gloriam Regiae Majestatis ornamentum Reip utilitatem Natalatijs Domini Nostri Jesu Christi diebus Vintoniae sancivit the Laws are in number 26. and intermixt with his secular Lawes made at the same time Haec illa humana atque politica sunt Jura quae Sapientum adhibito consilio per omnem Aagliam observari praecipio So as this Councell clearely was a Parliament not a Synod or Convocation Anno 1066. There was a most famous Councell or Assembly held at Westminster under King Edward the Confessor in the last yeare of his Reigne on the Feast of Christs Nativity Praesentibus Rege Confessore Edgitha Regina Stigando Archiepiscopo Cantuariae Eldredo Archiepisc Eboraci caterisque Angliae Episcopis Abbatibus Capellanis Regis COMITIBUS MINISTRIS seu Thanis Regijs MILITIBUS about the endowment priviledges and Sanctuary of Westminster Abby then newly re-edified and consecrated In which Councell the King granted severall Charters of priviledges to this Abbey which were consented unto ratified and subscribed as well by the Dukes Nobles Officers Knights and other Lay-men as by the King Queen Bishops Abbots and Clergy By all these ancient Presidents before the Conquest to which others might be added it is most apparent That all our prisline Synods and Councells were nought else but Parliaments that our Kings Nobles Senators Aldermen Wisemen Knights and Commons were usually present and voting in them as members and Judges and that all our Ecclesiasticall Laws Canons and Constitutions that were obligatory or binding as well concerning matters of faith Church-Government discipline as manners were ever made enacted ratified in and by our Parliaments only and not by the Bishops or Clergy alone or by the King and Clergy in meere Ecclesiasticall Synods without the Nobles Senators and Commons consents or Votes Neither finde I any example or Author from King Lucius his Reigne to the Conquest that either denyed the legislative or coercive power of such Councells and Parliaments either in matters of doctrine Discipline Church Government or manners but all readily and unanimously subscribed to it enough to silence all novell opposits whatsoever King William the Conqueror as he was resolved in a Full Councell and Parliament to bee Christs Vicar and chiefe Governour of the Church within this Realme in these words Rex quia Vicarius summi regis est ad hoc constituitur ut regnum Populum Domini super omina SANCTAM ECCLESI MREGAT ET DEFENDAT c. taken out of King Edward the Confessors Lawes which he established and ratified so he reformed the Ecclesiasticall Lawes and
all we desire two Prebends to be given us by all Cathedrall Churches and out of Abbies where the Monkes and Abbots have divers portions of each one Monkes intire allowance one from the Covent another from the Abbott which demand Otho urged the Bishops and Prelates to grant on the foresaid grounds Who consulting together hereupon returned this their common Answere by Iohn Archdeacon of Bedford That those things he had propounded to them did specially concerne the King of England and generally all the Patrons of Churches Archbishops Suffragans and Prelates of England since therefore the King was then absent by reason of his infirmitie and some Archbishops Bishops and other Prelates were absent likewise that in their absence they neither could nor ought to give any Answer And upon these words uttered came Iohn Lord Marshall of England and other Messengers from the King strictly commanding all what held Baronies of the King in Capite that that they should not obliege their lay Fee to the Church of Rome whereby he might be deprived of the services due unto him And so all returned to their owne home The same yeare there was another Councell assembled at Westminster under Stephen Langhton Archbishop of Canterbury about the same matter To which the King conferring a part with some of the Nobles and Bishops gave this Answer that these things concern all Christendom because we are placed in the remotest parts of the world when we shall see what other Kingdomes will say to these exactions and shall have an example from them the Pope shall finde us more ready to obey him And so this Councell brake up By both which presidents it is evident that Councells in those dayes were no other but Parliaments the King Nobles and Commons being present in them and that the Clergy alone could treat or conclude of nothing but by their concurring assents Anno 1231. There was a great Synod of Abbotts Priors Archdeacons with almost the whole Nobility Masters and Clerks of the Realme assembled at Saint Albans by the Popes Command to celebrate a divorse betweene the Countesse of Essex and her Husband if there were cause This divorse was but an Ecclesiasticall matte● as the Canonists deemed it yet both King Nobles and Commons as well as Abbots and Clergy-men were present at it and called to it by the Popes command In the yeare of our Lord 1236. there was a Councell of all the great men Prelates and Clergie of the Realme summoned to meet at London by King Henry the third under Othe the Popes Legate which being assembled together at Paules the second day thereof the King sent John Earle of Lincolne Iohn the son of Jeffery and William de Reele a Canon of Paules to inhibit the Legate in the behalfe of the King and Kingdome that he should not there Attempt or decree any thing against his Royall Crowne and dignity William Reele remained there to see this inhibition observed the others departed The next day folowing the Legate supported with divine assistance astantis concilij Suffragits et consensu and by the suffrages and consent of the Councel there present to conserve and reforme the State Ecclesiasticall in the parts of England besides other Canonicall institutions promulged certaine Canons digested into Chapters and Articles which Edmond Archbishop of Canterbury with divers others who departed from the Councell with little joy resolved to nullifie and revoke as not confirmed by the King the Lords and Commons for ought appeares which Otho understanding writ to the Pope to ratifie them who accordingly did it by his decretall Epistle Anno 1288. John Peckam Archbishop of Canterbury held a Provinciall Councell at Redding in which he made five Constitutions purposing to draw the conusance of Patronages of Churches anciently belonging to the Kings Court to the Ecclesiasticall to rescinde all Royall Prohibitions in suites depending in the Ecclesiasticall Court for goods and Chattels and to inhibitu that Ecclesiasticall Judges should be thenceforth prohibited to proceed in them But the King hearing of this designe sent certain selected messengers both to the Archbishop and the whole Councell commanding them with threats to resist whence it came to passe that the Archbishop wholy receeded from his presumption and the Councell being dissolved all the Prelates returned frustrate of their hope 31. An. 1296. Robert Winchelsee Archbishop of Canterbury held a Provinciall Councell at London where the Clergy to disapoint the King of his Subsidies and Tenths decreed among other things Ne quid inconsulto Papa Regibus a Clero solveretur That nothing should be payed to Kings without the Popes privity and consent A right loyall Constitution worthy Prelates The King having then called a Parliament to re-inburse his monyes spent in the Scottish Wars had a large Subsidie granted him by the Commons and Burgesses But the Clergy neither offered nor granted him any thing by reason of this their Constitution for confirmation whereof the Archbishop had gotten the Popes Bull The King being moved therewith proroged the Parliament to London commanding the Clergy to be there on the first day of Saint Hilary to give him a better answer The King in the mean time commanded all the Clergy mens Barnes which were full of corne to be sealed up with publike Seales which whiles his Officers were executing the Archbishop commanded the Popes decree to be published in Cathedrall Churches inhibiting under pain of Excommunication that no Tribute or ayd should be payd to the King or to any secular Prince out of Ecclesiasticall livings or revenues an high straine of Papall usurpation and presumption and when he and his Suffragans met in Pauls they resolved to stand to their former Constitution and to grant the King nothing Such dutifull good Subjects were these lordly Prelates Whereupon the King sending messengers to them to demand a supply from them they all returne him this answer It is sufficiently known that under God the Lord of all we have two Lords a spirituall the Pope our Lord and a temporall the King our Soveraigne and though we are bound to obey both yet we ought to obey our spirituall Lord more than our temporall And therefore we intend to send a Legate to the Pope that his leave first obtained wee may give the King what he desires of us The King receiving this answer tooke it very disdainfully that he should be thus mocked in his own Kingdome by the Pope and his Clergie and thereupon thrust the Clergie out of the Parliament and held a Councell with his Barons and Commons alone and presently put all the Clergie out of his protection that none of them should have power to sue any man in any of his Courts but might be sued there by any of his subjects upon which all the Clergie but the Archbishop were content to offer the King the fith part of their Ecclesiasticall goods and the Archbishop persisting in his obstinacy had all
his temporalities goods Chattels seised into the Kings hands Who yet would not yeeld but pronounced them all excommunicate who disobeyed the former constitution which being made onely by the Clergy and not ratified by King and Parliament was held but a meere idle nullity and audacious disobedient attempt obliging neither King nor subject Anno 1418. A Provinciall Synod was held at London under Henry Chichely Archbishop of Canterbury Where upon the motion of Robert Guilbert President of Merton Colledge in Oxford and of Thomas Kington it was decreed That the Patrons of Ecclesiasticall benefices when they fell voyd should conferre them upon such who were Graduates in the Universities having a respect of their degree and profession according to the value of the living This Constitution being propounded in the Congregation in the University to be there ratified the Masters of Arts Monks and Professors who exceeded the Regents of the University in multitude rejected and refused it but K. Henry the fifth being addicted to learning An. 1420. writ to the Synod then assembled at London wherein the Chancellors both of Oxford and Cambridge petitioned that it might be received though the Maisters of Art had refused to receive it to passe the Decree which some Friars there opposed Judge in Parliamento postea confirmavit and he afterwards confirmed the same in Parliament Loe here a Constitution first made in a Synod or Convocation rejected in both Vniversities because not then confirmed by the King in Parliament to make it binding and efficatious for future times a most pregnant evidence for proofe of that I now contend for To cite more presidents of this nature in former ages would be more tedious than necessary in so plaine a case I shall therefore passe from Councels and Synods to direct Acts of Parliament touching Religion and Church affaires As high as we have any Acts of Parliament since the Conquest remaining on Record We finde all Ecclesiasticall matters and Church affaires setled and ratified by speciall Acts of Parliament only not by the Clergies Canons The great Charter of England first granted by King Henry the first ratified afterwards at Runing-Mead by King John revived by King Henry the third in the ninth yeare of his Raigne confirmed frequently by him afterwards by King Edward the first in the 28th yeare of his Raigne yea by all or most of his successors in speciall Acts of Parliament by the Petition of Right 3. Caroli begins thus Know yee that we to the honour of Almighty God and for the salvation of the Soules of our Progenitors and Successors Kings of England to the advancement of holy Church c. First We have granted to God and by this our present Charter have confirmed for Vs and our Heires for ever more that the Church of England shall be free and have all her rights and liberties inviolable And that all her elections shall bee free c. An. 1164. In February there was a Parliament held at Clarindon by King Henry the 2d his command who was there present where all the Archbishops Bishops Abbotts Priors Earles Barons Nobles and great men of the Realm made a Recognition or Recerd of part of the Customes and Liberties of the Kings Ancestors to wit of King Henry the first and others which ought to be observed and kept by all men in the Realm by reason of the dissention and discords frequently emerging betweene the Clergy and the Kings Iustices and great men of the Realme the substance whereof was conteined in these 16. Chapters recorded by Matthew Paris 1. That if any controversie concerning the advowson and presentation of Churches should arise betweene Laymen or betweene Laymen and Clergie men it should bee heard and determined in the Court of our Lord the King 2. That the Churches of the Fee of our Lord the King could not bee given in perpetuity or appropiated without his grant or concession 3. That Clergiemen accused of any thing being summoned by the Kings Iustice should come into the Kings Court to answer the same there that so the Kings Court might determine what was to bee answered there and what fit to be answered in the Ecclesiasticall Court that so the Iustice might send into the Court of holy Church to see how the matter shall there be handled And if the Clarke shall be convict or confesse the crime that the Church from thenceforth ought not to protect him 4. That it shall not be lawfull to the Archbishops Bishops and persons of the Realme to goe out of the Realme without the Licence of our Lord the King and if they shall goe thence if it shall please the King they shall give him security that neither in going nor in returning nor in staying they shall procure hurt or dammage to our Lord the King or the Realme 5. That excommunicate persons ought not to give a pledge to remaine vadium ad remanentiam nor to take an Oath but onely to give a surety or pledge of standing to the judgment of the Church where they are absolved 6. That Laymen ought not to be accused but by lawfull accusers witnesses in the presence of the Bishop that the Arch-Deacon may not lose his right nor any thing that he ought to have from thence And if those who are accused shall be such that no man will or dares to accuse the Sheriffe being required by the Bishop shall sweare twelve lawfull men of the Vicenage or Town before the Bishop that they shall manifest the truth concerning such according to their Consciences 7. No man who holds of the King in Capite nor any of his Dominicall Ministers or house-hold servants shall be excommunicated nor the Lands of any one of them put under interdict unlesse our Lord the King if he bee within the Realme be first acquainted therewith or his Iustice if he shall be forth of the Realme the reason then rendred was lest the King should at unawares Kisse or admit to his Councell such an excommunicate person resorting to him that so he may doe right concerning him and see that what appertaineth to the Kings Court shall be there determined and that what belongeth to the Ecclesiasticall Court may bee sent unto it that it may bethere descided 8. Concerning appeales if they shall happen they ought to proceed from the Arch-Deacon to the Bishop from the Bishop to the Archbishop and if the Archbishop shall faile in exhibiting Iustice they may appeale to our Lord the K. in the last place and that by his precept the controversie may be ended in the Arch-Bishops Court so that there ought to bee no further proceeding without the assent of our Lord the King 10. If any be cited by the Arch-Deacon or Bishop for any offence for which he ought to answer to them and will not appeare upon their citations it shall bee lawfull for them to put him under interdict but they ought not to excommunicate him till he be convented before the
dignities elective and prohibits provisions usurpations citations and Bulls of the Pope and Court of Rome under paine of a Praemunire banishment abjuration Imprisonment Fine and ransome 14. R. c. 2. Limits the exchanges of monyes to the Court of Rome 15. R. 2. c. 2. 6. concernes forcible entries into Benefices Offices of holy Church mortuaties to Religious persons Popes Bulls consecrations of Church-yeards and Appropriations of Churches and Almes 16. R. 2. c. 5 provides for presentations to Churches against the Popes usurpations Translations excommunications Bulls and Jurisdiction under paine of a Praemunire 21. R. 2 it prefaced To the honour of God and holy Church and c. 1. confirmes the Churches Liberties In King Henry the 4th his Parliaments I finde that the Prologues of the Statutes in 1. ● 4. 7. 9. and 13. H. 4. begin thus To the honour of God and reverence of holy Church c. and the first Chapter in each of them is That holy Church have and enjoy all her rights liberties and Franchises entirely and without imbleamishing Then follow temporall Lawes 2. H. 4. c. 3. 4. prohibits provisions of exemption from regular or ordinary obedience granted to any religious persons from Reme Buls of exemption from payment of Tithes granted to the Religious of the Order of Cysteaux under paine of a P●amunire and Cap. 15. provides for the suppression of Sectaries hereticall Preachers Conventicles heriticall Bookes Schooles and preservation of the Catholique faith enacting that Heritickes shall be imprisoned abjured and in case of relapse or obstinacy burned 4. H. 4. c. 2. 3. confirme all the Statutes formerly made in favour of the Church and Clergy and for preservation of their liberties Cap. 12. concernes appropriations of Churches Vicaridges Ordinaries the Bishop and Archdeacon of Ely and other Religious persons cap. 14. prohibits working or wages on holy-dayes Cap. 17. enacts that none shall enter into Religion unlesse he be foureteene yeares of age without the Parents consent Cap. 22. concernes presentations to Benefices 5. H. 4. c. 11. 12. concerne Tithes Chalices and ornaments of holy Church 6. H. 4. c. 1. prohibits provisions and the payment of first fruits or exacted fees to Rome under forfeiture of all their estates who offend herein 7. H. 4. c. 6. inhibits Religious persons under paine of a Praemunire to procure any exemption from payment of Tithes or any provisions from the Pope 9. H. 4. c. 8. forbids provisions and translations from the Pope under paine of a Praemunire and makes all elections of Archbishops Bishops Abbots Prebends Deans to be free without any interruption from the Pope or King 11. H. 4. c. 4 Prohibits unlawful games on Sundayes and other holy dayes 1. H. 5. c. 7. 8. prohibits the conferring of Ecclesiasticall living upon Aliens and orders their benefices and the lands of Priors aliens to be seised in times of Warre 2. H. 5. c. 1. provides for Ordinaries visitations of Hospitalls and reformation of them after the lawes of the holy Church Cap. 3. grants a prohibition to spirituall Courts where they deny a Copy of the Lible Chap. 7. for the preservation of the Christian faith the Law of God and holy Church with in this Realme and the punishment of Heresies and Hereticks enacts that Hereticks shall be apprehended and imprisoned by Sheriffs and upon conviction of Heresy forseit their Lands and goods and be burned 2. H. 5. Parl. 2. c. 2. limits the wages of Curates and Parish Priests 3. H. 5. c. 1. enacts that holy Church have all her liberties and franchsies C. 3. concerns Abbots and Priors C. 4. inhibits provisions from Rome under a Premiarie C. 8. concernes Probate of Wills and r●gulates exorbitant fees for procuring them C. 6. forbids the promotions of Irishmen to Beneficies or Ecclesiasticall dignities 9. H. 5. c. 9. limits the manner of collecting Dismes by Archbishops Bishops and their Agents 2. H. 6. c. 1 confirmes the Churches liberties 6. H 6. c. 3. prohibits worke on and wages for holy dayes 8. H. 6. begins thus To the Laud and honor of Almighty God and of the holy Mother the Church Ch. 1. provides for the priviledges of the Convocation 10. H. 6. c. 11. limits how Bastardy shall be tryed between the Common and Canon Law which differ therein 15. H. 6. c. 7. concernes Abbots and Priots 27. H. 6. c. 5. prohibits Faires and Merkets upon Sundayes and principle holy dayes as a great prophanation of them 28. H. 6. begins To the honour of God and of holy Church 33. H. 6. c. 6. concerns the exemption of the Abbot of Founteynes and other Abbots and Priors from Vexations sutes 1. Ed. 4. is prefaced To the honour of God and of holy Church C. 1. containes in it many particulars concerning Bishops Abbots and Clergymen 3. E. 4. hath the same prefaced and 12. E. 4. c. 7 prescribes excommunication 4. times a yeare to be denounced against the infringers of Magna Charta as other Acts formerly did King Richard the 3d. prefaceth the Acts of his first Parliament in his 1. yeare thus To the honour of God and of holy Church c. 14. limits the maner of collecting the Clergies Dismes King Henry the 7th begins his Statutes in the 1. yeare of his Reigne To the honour of God and his holy Church and Cap. 4. enables Archbishops Bishops and other Ordinaries to imprison Priests Clerkes and Religious persons for incontinency which they could not doe before The Statutes of 2. 4. 11. 12. 17. H. 7. as their Prologues attest were made to the worship of God and holy Church and for the common good of this Realme The Statutes of An. 1. 3. 4. all or most Parliaments in the Regine of King Henry the 8th are prefaced To the honour of God and holy Church and for the Common Weale and profit of this Realme In the Parliament of 21. H. 8. C-3 4. 13. there were Statutes made concerning Probat of VVi●s taking of mortuaries by Priests or others against Pluralities of Benefices and taking of farmes by spirituall men All of Ecclesiasticall Cognisance 22. H. 8. c. 15. containes the Kings generall pardon to his spirituall Subjects who were fallen into a Praemunire by submitting to Cardinall Wolsies power Legatine 23. H. 8. c. 1. abridgeth the power of Ordinaries and takes away the benefit of Clergy in some cases ch 9. enacts That no man shall be cited into any ecclesiasticall Court out of the Diocesse wherein he dwells unlesse in certaine causes ch 10. settles the Law concerning feofements and assurances to the use of any Parish-Church or Chapell 24 H. 8. ch 12. takes away all Appeales to Rome and excellently sets forth the Kings supremacy as well in and over Ecclesiasticall causes and persons as temporall as you may read at large in the Act it selfe denying exploding the authority of the Pope and Sea of Rome 25. H. 8. c. 14. conteines a Law for the punishment of HERESY and
Lipsiae 1584. together with the severall Confession of all the Protestant Churches in Germany and elsewhere recorded in the Harmony of Confessions which were made published established by the severall Protestant States to Diets or Parliaments by common consent of the Nobles Magistrates Senates Ministers of those Churches not by the Clergy alone are a sufficient demonstration of their Ecclesiasticall legislative power and jurisdiction in all matters of Faith Discipline and Government In few words I dare averre that there is never a forraigne Christian Empire Kingdome or Republike in the world whether Protestant or Popish but hath in their Parliaments Diers Senates made sundry Lawes concerning matters of Faith Government Discipline Clergiemen and all Ecclesiasticall affaires yea for the establishment of that Religion Church Government and Discipline in present use among them as their severall Laws and Constitutions will abundantly manifest to any who have vacancy to peruse them I shall close up this Section with some presidents of the Parliaments of Ireland and Scotland which have most affinity to the Parliaments of England Among the printed Statutes of Ireland collected by Master Belton I mèet with these ensuing Ecclesiasticall Lawes made in the Parliaments of Ireland 36. H. 6. c. 1. That Beneficed persons shall keep Residence 7. E. 4. c. 2. 3. That none shall purchase Benefices from Rome and that pardons made to such as purchase them thence shall be voyde 10. H. 7. c. 5. Against provisors from Rome 25. H. 8. c. 2. For uniting the Personage of Cantrim to the Priory of Saint Peters 28. H. 8. c. 5. That the King shall be supreame head of the Church of Ireland ch 8. and 26. For payment of first-fruits ch 13. Against the Authority of the Bishops of Rome and chap. 14. 17 18 23. For other Ecclesiasticall matters 33. H. 8. c. 6. Conconcerning Mariages cha 12. For Tithes chap. 14. For erecting of Vicaridges 33. H. 8. Parl. 2. chap. 5. For suppressing religious houses 2. Eliz chap. 1. For restoring to the Crowne the ancient Iurisdiction and the State Ecclesiasticall and abolishing all forraigne power repugnant to the same cha 2. For the uniformity of Common prayer and service in the Church chap. 3. Concerning first fruits and Personages impropriate c. 4. For the conferring and consecrating of Archbishops and Bishops 11. Eliz. c. 6. and 13. Eliz. c. 6. with diverse others since For Scotland I finde many Ecclesiasticall Lawes concerning the Church Church-men and all matters of Religion made in Parliament and intermixed with their temporall Acts. To omit the Ecclesiasticall Lawes of King Keneth mixed with his Temporal enacted about the Yeare of our Lord 844. In the Statutes of K. William of Scotland made about the Yeare of our Lord 1170 chap 32. Is For maintaining the true Religion and the Rights and liberties of haly Kirke chapter 34. Of the honesty of Clarkes King Robert the first in his Parliament holden at Scone with his Bishops Abbots Priors Ea●i●s Barons and other Noblemen of his Realme to the honour of God and haly Kirke with common advise and consent of all the Prelates and Freeholders foresaide and haile community in the 13. Yeare of his Raigne to wit Anno 1319 made a law chapter 〈◊〉 For the freedome of the Kirke and Kirkmen and maintenance of true Religion And the second Parliament of this King chapter 1. Is of Donation of Lands made to Religious persons and chapter 14. Concernes Nunnes Among the Statutes of King David the 2. the 12th chapter is of Pilgranners and chapter 42. For freedome of holy Kirke Not to mention all the statutes made in the Parliaments of Scotland in times of Popery for advancing the Popes Authority Masse Prelacy with sundry Doctrines and Ceremonies abolished by subsequent Acts in times of Reformation I shall only give you a briefe account of some of their Acts of Parliament since beginning of reformation in that Kingdome I finde in Master John Knox his History of the reformation of the Church of Scotland lib. 3 pag 56 57. in the London edition ●644 That in a Parliament held in Scotland Anno 1543. there began question of the abolishing of certaine tyrannicall Acts made before at the devotion of the Prelates for the maintaining of their Kingdome of darknesse to wit That under paine of Haeresy none should read any part of the Scripture in the vulgar Tongue neither yet any Tractate or exposition of any place of Scripture which Act after great debate in Parliament betweene the Nobility Commons and Clergie was wholly repealed and this Act of Parliament enacted That it should be lawfull to every man to use the benefit of the Translations which then they had of the Old and New Testament together with the benefis of other Treatises containing wholsome doctrine untill such time at the Prelates and other Church-men should give and set forth unto them a translation more correct And so by Act of Parliament it was made free to all men and women to reade the Scriptures in their vulgar tongue and all Acts to the contrary abolished This was no small victory of Christ Jesus against the conjured enemies of his Verity In the yeare 155● of the Protestants in Scotland petitioned both the Queene Regent and likewise the Lords Barons Burgesses assembled there in Parliament for repeale of severall Lawes formerly made against Heritickes for prayers in their vulgar Tongue frequent preaching or interpretation of the Scriptures due administration of the Sacraments of Baptisme and the Lords Supper Reformation of the Church Prelates and ecclesiasticall estate their lives Courts and proceedings And likewise entered a formall Protestation in the Parliament House After this in the yeare 1560. The Protestant Barrons Gentlemen Burgesses and others of the Realme presented a large supplication to the Nobility 〈◊〉 States of Parliament then assembled wherein they desired the abolition of Idolatry and such false Doctrin as w●e condemned by Gods word by Act of that Parliament and punishment to be appointed for the transgression that the abuses and prosanations of the Sacraments of Jesus Christ and of the true Discipline of the Church might be reformed That the Popes usurped ecclesiasticall Authority might be abolished and the Popish Clergy removed c. Which application being read in the Audience of the whole Assembly the Batons Ministers other Petitioners were thereupon commanded to draw into plaine and severall heads the summe of that Doctrine which they would maintaine and desire the present Parliament to establish as wholsome true and only necessary to be beleived and to be received within the Realme which they willingly accepted and within foure dayes presented a large Confession of the faith professed and beleived by the Protestants within the Realme of Scotland consisting of 25. Articles which were read in face of Parliament and after ratified by the three States of this Realme at Edinburgh the 17. of Iuly 1560. and by the whole body of the Parliament which
out of which the Independent Brethren CONCEIVE AN IMPOSSIBILITY that a spirituall extraction should be made That a man may as well bring a cleane thing out of an uncleane in Iobs expression as make A SPIRITVALL EXTRACTION out of this SECVLAR ROOT who have NO Authority nor power from Christ to nominate or appoint who shall be the men that shall order the affaires of Christs Kingdom or institute the government of his Church That therefore there is AN IMPOSSIBILITY that a legitimate Ecclesiasticall power should according to the minde of Christ or any precept or prefident of Scripture be by them conferred VPON ANY MAN OR THAT THE PERSONS SO ELECTED SHOVLD HAVE A POWER by vertue of such nomination or election TO ENACT LAWES OR STATVTES IN MATTERS OF RELIGION and TO ORDER VNDER MVLCTS PAENATIES HOW MEN SHALL WORSHIP and SERVE GOD c. Are diametrally opposite to the ancient priviledges and undoubted Ecclesiagicall Authority of Parliaments which they pluck up by the very roots and altogether as bad as if not far worse than Bishop Laudes with whom he symbolizeth in this particular which I have elswhere answered fully resuted These Passages of his were first unseasonably vented by him in a Sermon in Colemanstreet 25 February 1643. to what other end unlesse to prepare his Auditors to slight or reject what ever forme of Church-government the Parliament should prescribe or settle I cannot discerne for which with other particulars being questioned before the Committee for plundered Ministers even pending the complaint there he presumed to justifie them againe very unseasonably in the Pulpit on a solemne Fast day and likewise in two printed Books to one wherof he prefixed his name in high affront of that Committee which suspended him and contempt of the Parliaments Authority not to be paralleld in any age by any person for ought I finde Which audaciousnesse of his who pretended so much respect and honour to the Parliament heretofore engaged me according to my Covenant and Protestation to give a publicke answer in print to these scandalous passages in vindication of the Parliaments indubitable Right and Priviledge to intermeddle in and make Lawes for all Church matters as I have manifested by a cloud of witnesses in all ages in the foregoing Section and so farre incensed the Committee against him that they sequestred him from his living in Colemanstreet for the very things I mentioned in my Full Reply c. and ordered the passages in his Sermon and Theomachia to be specially reported to the House with all expedition as an unsufferable affront and presumptnons under mining of their Priviledges which they could neither in honour nor justice connive at without exemplary punishment and censure And yet this Gentleman since this censure hath had the boldnesse in another Pamphlet of his to which hee hath prefixed his name Intituled INNOCENCIES TRIVMPH an unfitting Title for a sequestred Nocent to deny those very matters of fact which he voluntarily confessed in my hearing before the Committee for which he was sequestred and to justifie his forementioned scandalous passages in such a daring way as cannot bee paralleld For first he professeth p. 2. That he hath not denyed the least dram or scruple of that power belike he hath weighed it exactly in the scales which is truly Parliamentary and consistent with the Word of the great and glorious God of which misdemeanour he is not in the least measure conscious to himselfe as yet This manifestes him incorrigible impenitent after censure proclaims him that which this whole Pamphlet vainly endeavours to acquit him from One who hath presumptuously undermined the undoubted Priviledges of Parliaments and here trebles in his former offences Secondly he averreth that what he formerly preached and writ was out of a loving tender affectionate jealousie over the Parliament lest possibly they might dash their foot against that stone by which all Rule all Authority and power will one day be broken in pieces So that if his tongue or pen have in the least miscarried in this point it was Error Amoris not Amor erroris he being extreamly jealous over the Parliament lest they should touch with any Title or claime the most sacred and incommunicable Royalties and privilledges of Heaven and so count it no robbery to make themselves equall to God knowing most assuredly that this is a most high provocation to the eyes of the most High and IF CONTINUED IN will kindle a fire in the breast of him whose name is Iehovah which will consume and devoure c. But good Sir first can any rationall man thinke though you should protest it ten thousand times over that such Anti-Parliamentary passages as yours are should proceed from your love to Parliaments The blindest charity I feare will hardly credit it that a friend to Parliaments should thus successively Preach and Print against their jurisdiction more desperatly than the worst Malignant Royalist Cavalier or the Arch-Prelate himselfe as you have apparently done Secondly If this proceeded from such affectionate jealousie over the Parliament I pray what made you so strangely if not ma●gnantly jealous over them as to feare and presume they might dash their feet against that stone by which all power shall bee broken in peeces claime the most sacred and incommunicable priviledges and royalties of Heaven to themselves and count it no robbery to make themselves equall with God Did the Parliament ever give you the least colour or occasion of any such uncharitable unchristian that I say not detestable jealousie could you have harder or more jealous thoughts than these of the very Pope or Turke himselfe or of that great Antichrist who exalts himselfe above all that is called God Can such jealousies as these issued from any but a rancorous or disaffected heart against Parliaments or did ever such execrable jealousies as these proceed from the heart tongue much lesse the pen of any Oxford Aulicus or most venemous Malignant to our Parliament Doe their calling of an Assembly of most pious and conscientious Divines of all sorts to reforme our Church and conforme its Government Discipline in all things as neere as possible to the Word of God with all their religious proceedings in this kinde infuse any such jealousie into you If not then for shame retract these your groundlesse fanaticke jealousies of and uncharitable hard thoughts against the Parliament else the world will censure you an Arch-Malignant and the greatest Enemie to our Parliament that ever yet appeared openly in Presse or Pulpit within the lines of Communication if not without them to Thirdly had you had any just cause of such a jealousie yet it had bin your duty to have privately informed your friends in Parliament with it in a brotherly Christian way but to publish these your brain-sick jealousies and suspitions of them behind their backs in open Pulpit and then to the whole world in print of purpose to make your Auditors Readers jealous of
them as men who invaded the very incommunicable royalties and priviledges of heaven and counted it no robbery to make themselves equall to God or to defame or draw an odium or contempt upon them and prepare the people before hand to oppose or reject whatsoever Church-Government they shall establish contrary to your Independent way for there can be no other reall end of these your Anti-parliamentary Sermons writings is such a transcendent crime and high affront against the Parliament as you are never able to expiate and is so farre from extenuating that it aggravates your former offences beyond expression Fourthly Your last clause And if continued c. intimates and speakes ●ound without any straining that the Parliament for the present are guilty of dashing their foote against Christ the Rocke of claiming the most sacred and incommunicable royalties and priviledges of heaven and making themselves equall to God And that if they persevere in the course they have begun in reforming our Church and setting up a Church Government according to the Word different from your new way it is such an high provocation against the most high as will kindle a fire in the brest of him whose name is Jehovah which will consume and devoure c. Could all the Malignant and Prelaticall party in England lay a greater wickeder or more unjust scandall in our Parliament then this or more defame them then by such a false report enough to fire the whole Kingdome against them as well as Gods wrath Certainly Master Goodwin I must tell you freely without malice or uncharitablenes and I beseech you pardon my zeale in this particular that your Iealousie and pen in this was set on fire of hell rather then heaven when you printed this passage and what ever censure you deserve I feare your Book demerits the fire to purge out this drosse yea all the late teares of Repentance you may shed will not be sufficient to quench those unhappy flames of contention your late Sermons and Pamphlets have kindled in our Church and State to omit your former Socinian Errors Thirdly Hee professeth that in case he hath said or written any thing detractory to the undoubted priviledges of Parliament yet my Inditement against him that he did it PRESVMTVOVSLY is such a charge which men whose ungrounded zeale hath not eaten out the heart of their Charity cannot lightly but recharge with unreasonablenesse and utter unlikely-hood Sir I dare affirme upon good grounds that you did this presumptuously as I charge it Grammarians Lawyers and Divines informs us that the Word Presumptuous comes from the verbe Praesumo which signifies to forestall to conceive before hand to usurpe or take that upon him which belongs not to him to doe a thing before a man bee lawfully called to it which belongs not properly to him or to doe a thing boldly confidently or rashly without good grounds or against Authority or Lawes or upon hopes of impunity He that doth ought in any of these sences may properly be said to do it PRESUMPTUOUSLY and that in Scripture phrase as well as in common parlance To apply this to your crime First you preached and printed these passages of purpose to forestall the Parliaments and Assemblies pious resolutions to settle one uniforme Church-Government and suppresse all private Coventicles of Sectaries or Anabaptists contrary to it 2. To establish support that Independent way which you had before hand without any lawful warrant conceived ere the Parliament had made choyce of or setled any Church-Government for you as the whole Tenor of your Bookes and Sermons evidence Thirdly It was no lesse then high presumption in you being a meere Divine and a man altogether ignorant of or unskilfull in the ancient Rights and Priviledges of our Parliament as your writings demonstrate and your selfe intimate p. 5. to undertake to determine and judge of them so peremptorily and in such manner as you have done When as if you had known any thing concerning the Rights of Parliaments you might have learned this among other things That Divines are no competent Iudges of Parliaments Priviledges That the Priviledges Rights and customes of our Parliaments are only to be judged and determined by the Parliament it selfe not in or by any other inferior Court much lesse in a Pulpit That the power and jurisdiction of the Parliament for making of Lawes is so transcendent and absolute as it cannot bee confined to causes or persons within any bounds and that the state and defence of the Church of England is the very first matter and care of the Parliament of England as all the premised Presidents manifest and Sir Edward Cooke with others might have informed you And for a man to undertake to judge of that which is above his power is expresly defined to bee presumption by Richardus de Media villa in 3. Sententiar Distinct 26. and other Schoolemen on that place and by Summa Angelica Tit. Praesumptus Fourthly You had no lawfull calling nor warrant from Gods Word or our Lawes to handle the Iurisdictions and rights of Parliament in your pulpit nor yet to dispute them in your writings in such a daring manner by way of opposition or to encourage people to disobedience to its Ecclesiasticall Lawes and descitions Therefore in this you were presumptuous by the Scriptures owne definition 2 Pet. 2. 10. Fourthly after you were questioned before a Committee of Parliament for these very passages in your first Sermon as exceeding scandalous Derogatory to the Members and priviledges of Parliament yet you in a daring manner whiles you were under examination audaciously preached over the same againe in substance in your Pulpit on a solemne Fast day and published them with additions in no lesse then two printed Bookes Yea since your very censure by the Committee for them you have in a higher straine then ever gone on to justifie them in print once more in your Innocencies Triumph like an incorrigible delinquent wherein you slander the Parliament more then before and shew your selfe a man dispising Government at least any Church-Government the Parliament shall establish not suitable to your fancy selfe-willed and even speaking evill of Dignities in your forementioned clauses others Therefore in this regard you are superlatively presumptuous by St. Peters resolution Yea most men whose ungrounded zeale to your new way hath not eaten out his braines and reason too must readily acknowledge it notwithstanding your two reasons to the contrary To wit First your former uninterrupted zeale to this Parliament and its cause you meane perchance before you were an Independent and since whiles you thought it would embrace your new way which doth but aggravate your subsequent opposition in presse and Pulpit against its undoubted jurisdiction Secondly The grounds and reasons you have given of your opinion which I shall examine in due place as if men might not do presumptuously against the lawfull power of Parliaments and
civill Magistrates as you have plentifully done even with some colour of reason as well as insanire cum ratione which is all I shall answer to your reasons Fourthly Hee writes Let Master Prynne Or any other evict mee of any wilfull or unwilfull violation of the priviledges of Parliament and I shall bee as willing as willingnesse it selfe can make me to further such a conviction and no man shall be more ready then I to crave their pardon or undergoe their Justice nay I shall repent my selfe and abhor my errour in dust and ashes Certainely this your promised late Repentance which is yet contingent and improbable after so many publike offronts and oppositions against the power and proceedings of Parliament will bee a very poore recompence and satisfaction for all your former misdemeanors and scandalls to the Parliament yet late repentance being better then none at all I shall now challenge you to make good this your promise since your owne Conscience and judgment cannot but informe you I have written enough in the former Sections to evict and convince you and all the world besides that you have not only violated but denyed oppugned those priviledges of Parliament in Ecclesiasticall affaires which our owne Parliaments in all ages and Parliamentary Assemblies in all other Kingdomes have unquestionably exercised enjoyed without any such publique opposition as you have made against them And if you now make not good your promise few or none will ever credit you hereafter 5ly For the Authors you cite to justifie yourselfe they are miserably wrested and mistaken for the most part The first you quote is Master Edwards who maintaines point blancke against you throughout his Treatise a Legislative and coerceive power in Parliaments and civil Majestrates even in Church-affaires and matters of Religion in the very pages you quote and else where Therefore you palpably abuse the Author and Reader in quoting him to the contrary who is so point-blancke against you For the passage you quote out of his Page 256. The Parliament interposeth no Authority to determine what government shall be whence you inferre p. 7. Therefore his opinion appeares to be either that the Parliament hath No authority or at least intends not to make use of it in determining a government It was written only with reference to that present time the Parliament having at that time when he writ during the Assemblies debate and consultation interposed no Authority to determine what government shall be yet before that it had declared the old prelaticall Lordly government to be abolished and called an Assembly to advise with about a New But to inferre from thence as you doe Therefore his opinion is either that the Parliament hath no Authority or at least intends not to make use of it in determining a Government Is an inference quite contrary to the next ensuing words and pages to the whole scope of the Authors Booke Humbly submitted to the Honourable houses of Parliament contrary to his expresse words p. 138. 281. to all his reasons against Toleration of your Way and to the Parliaments intent in calling the Assembly to assist them in determining and setling a Church-government agreable to Gods word Be ashamed therefore of this grosse perversion of your first Authors passages diametrally contrary to this meaning Your Passages out of Master Hayward Bishop Iewell Master Fox Mr. Calvin Iacobus Acontius Junius Peter Martyr and Gulielmus Appolonius make nothing at all against the Legislative Authority of Parliaments in matters of Religion and Church government and have no a●●inity with your Passages words most of them Bishop Iewel especially as I have already proved vindicating propugning the very ecclesiastical power of Parliaments which you oppugne Indeed some of their words seeme to diminish the Coercive power of Majestrat●s enforcing of mens consciences in matters of Religion which I shal answer in due place and manifest how you abuse the Authors herein as well as Mr. Edwards not hitherto answered by any of your party but how they militat against the jurisdiction of Parliaments in making Lawes touching Religion discipline and Church-government I am yet to seeke For the Passages he aleageth out of the Divines of Scotland That the Prince or Majestrate may not make or publish any Ecclesiasticall Law without the free assent of the Clergy c. That he may not by HIMSELFE define or direct such matters nor make any Lawes therein That the King hath not a Nomotheticke Legislative Power in matters ecclesiasticall in a constitute Church That the ordinary power of the King is not to make Ecclesiasticall Lawes c. I Answer 1. That their only meaning if I mistake not in these passages is that the Prince or chiefe civill Majestrate of HIMSELFE without a Parliament or without the assistance and consent of his Nobles Commons Clergy cannot legally make any ecclesiasticall Lawes to obliege his people upon which reason our Brethren of Scotl. rejected the late New service booke and Canons and our selves the late Canons c Oath which Canterbury wold have obtruded on us because they were made and prescribed only by the Kings Authority and the Prelates or Convocations not the Parliaments upon which very reason the Parliaments of both Kingdomes have respectively adjudged both one and other illegall But that the King or supreame temporall Majestrates assisted by a Parliament and Orthdox Divines may not make binding ecclesiasticall Lawes or that their or our Parliaments have not a reall Legislative power in any matters ecclesiastike the only point controversed is directly contrary both to the constant Doctrine and Practise of our Brethren and their Church used ever since the Reformation to the proceedings of their last Parliaments and generall Assemblies as I have formerly manifested You may therefore blush at this your perverting of their meaning as if they held that the Parliaments of England or Scotland had no power to make Ecclesiasticall Lawes for Religion or Church gouernment when as their Bookes Actions addresses to our present Parliament their presence assistance in our Assembly proclaimes the contrary And the very publique Confession of faith professed and subscribed in their Church Anno 1560 Chap. 14 since confirmed by severall Acts of Parliament doth the like But admit all those Authors really as not one of them is in verity opposite to the Ecclesiasticall Jurisdiction and Legislative power of Parliaments yet the unanimous practise and resolution of all Christian Realmes Synods Parliaments in all ages contrary to their private novell opinions is sufficient infinitly to overbalance them in the Judgements of all prudent men And thus much for Mr. Goodwins Innocencies tryumph as to the present point I shall next apply my selfe to Answer such Objections as my deare Brother Master Henry Burton hath lately made against the premises in his Vindication to my 12. Queeres touching Church-Government my Independency examined His first and principall Objection is this
That every particular Church now consisting of visible Saints is under Christ as the SOLE Head King Governour Law-giver of it and so is subject to no other jurisdiction then that of Christ his Spirit his Word We hold that every particular Church is under Christs Government as the SOLE Head King Lord Governour thereof That it is a spirituall House whose only builder and Governour is Christ and not man A spirituall Kingdome whose only King is Christ and not man A spirituall Republique whose only Law-giver is Christ and not man A spirituall Corporation whose only head is Christ and not man That no man nor power on earth hath a Kingly power over this Kingdome That no earthly Law-givers may give Lawes to this Kingdome or Republique That no man may claime or exercise a head-ship over this body That no man can or ought to take the Government of this Communion of Saints That men may not appoint limit constitute what Congregations of all sorts they please to be Churches of Christ as Nations and Parishes That Christ is King over every mans conscience so that no power on earth may sit with him in this his Thror c. yea so as no human power not Law may intermeddle to prescribe rules for the Government or formes of this Church of Christ That the Children of those Parents who will not thus acknowledge Christ to be their only King and Law-giver and are ashamed or afraid to be thus in Covenant with Christ in the Independents way as their King are not to be baptized such Parents not being within the Covenant A very hard and uncharitable censure of all Churches Persons who are not Independent That Christ is the ONLY Potentate Law-giver Lord King Governour over Churches and not men Not Councells or Senates That this is Christs Royall Prerogative which is incommunicable to ANY or All the powers on earth That Christ hath not delegated his Kingly Office to any Princes Magistrates PARLIAMENTS to set up any forme of Worship of Church-Government who have no authority to make Lawes to rule or binde any particular Churches and if they make any such they shall be apt to transgresse them but yet men must take heed how they punish them for that transgression with any enseresciderdum or Club-law This is the summe and oft repeted Argument of my deare Brothers Booke To give a satisfactory Answer to this Objection I shall first demand of my dear Brother what he meanes by this frequently incultated assertion That every particular Church is under Christ as the only Head King Lawgiver Lord and Governour thereof c. and that none ought to have any power rule or Jurisdiction in the Church but Christ alone If he intends that he is the only immediate HEAD KING Law-giver and Governour as he clearely doth I desire some solid scripture proofes for it since he produceth none to evince it the rather because it is quite contrary to sundry expres Texts which stile Kings Majestrates Ministers Heigher powers Rulers Overseers Fathers Nursing Fathers Pastors of over their Churches people flocks who are ever enjoyned to obey submit unto them yea Rulers of the Templ Congregation Church Rulers Chife Rulers of the Synagogu ●ay sometimes Gods sitting upon Gods throne to whom men must yeeld obedience for the Lords sake as to Gods Christs Vicegerents and Embassadours Yea Brother your selfe informe us out of Scripture pag. 51. That the members of Christs body are Superiour and inferiour as Pastors Teachers Teaching and RVLING Elders Helps GOVERNMENTS Bishops or OVERSEERS c. If Christ then be the onely Head King Ruler Shephard Governour of his Church and none else in that sense you object what will become of these Pastors Ruling-Elders Governours Overseers which you averre Christ hath fixed in his Churches What will become of those Independent Ministers who take upon them like absolute kings Popes Lawgivers to erect gather new Chruches of their own forming and prescribe both Lawes Rules Covenants to them which Christ never made Brother you must expunge the 1 Tim. 5. 17 Let the Elders that RULE well be counted worthy of double honour Rom. 13. 1. Let every soule BEE SVBIECT to the HIGHER POWERS c. even for CONSCIENCE SAKE Tit. 3. 1. Put them in minde to be subject to Principalities and Powers to obey Magistrates c. Heb. 12. 17. Obey them that have THE RULE OVER YOU and SVBMIT your selves for they watch for your soules as they that must give an account c. Remember Salute all them that have the RVLE OVER YOV Acts 20. 28. Take heed to the floke over which the Holy Ghost hath made you OVERSEERS or Bishops to feed the Church of God which he hath purchased with his bloud Rom. 12. 8. HE that RVLETH let him do it with diligence 2 Chron. 9. 8. Blessed be the Lord thy God who delighted in thee to set thee VPON HIS THRONE to BE KING FOR THE LORD THY GOD c. with infinite other Texts yea the very names of Kings Princes Governours Elders Rulers Magistrates Overseers Bishops Teachers Fathers Pastors Masters c. out of the Bible and all Christian States Churches if you will make Christ alone the only immediate King Ruler Governour Lawgiver of his Church in the sence you here object it and that no person nor humane power whatsoever hath or ought to have any rule power or jurisdiction in or over the Churches people of God But if you meane no more but that Christ is the onely supreame Head King Lord Governour Lawgiver Pastor and Ruler of his Church and that all other Kings Princes Magistrates Rulers Pastors Ministers Governours are subordinate unto him as to the King of Kings Lord of Lords and chiefe Shepheard of his flock● your proposition is true but your conclusion miserably false that therfore there are no subordinate Kings Magistrates Rulers Pastors Governours Lawgivers under him to rule governe order instruct direct his Churches and people which the forequoted Texts your owne experience reason and the whole world will contradict Secondly I shall demand of my Brother how he proves all his forementioned Paradoxes concerning Christ and the Church in the sense he propounds them Or that his own or other Independent Churches lately gathered erected by no other but by men and consederated by a new Covenant framed by men not Christ to be built governed ordered onely by Christ and not men to be the spirituall Kingdome of Christ c. whole onely King Governour Head is Christ and not man Or in what Text he can shew me any particular Independent Church stiled Christs spirituall Kingdom and Republike I find it prophesied Revl 11. 15. That when the seventh Angel foundeth The KINGDOMES of this World which must be meant of Nationall Churches which you deny not of Particular Congregations which are no such Kingdoms shall become the Kingdomes of the Lord and of his Christ That all the
eclesiasticall over us or passe any censures upon us but only Christ himselfe Brother if such Antimonarchicall Antiparliamentall and Anarchicall Logicke and Divinity be ever taught and beleeved in the world which cutts asunder the nerues and dissolves the very foundation of all Governments and Relations whatsoever whether naturall civill or Ecclesiasticall what an horrible confusion will be immediatly produced to the utter distruction of all Kingdomes Republiques Churches Families Societies Corporations in the World let all prudent men Judge Yet this is the dangerous Logicke this the Foundation stone whereon your whole Independent fabrick is built the absurdities and ill consequences whereof I trust all will now at last discerne Secondly I answer That though Christ be the only King and supream Law-giver of his Church yet it followes not thence that therfore no Parliament or humane power may or can make Lawes to order or governe the Churches and people of God by but onely Christ For Brother your selfe will grant 1. That Parliaments Kings and Synods may and ought to make Lawes to supposse and punish all manner of Idolatry superstition Impietie prophanenesses corruptions Heresies Doctrines Opinions and exorbitances whatsoever in their Churches Ministers people that are contrary to the Word of God the Lawes Doctrine Government of Christ or tending to the depravation disturbance or prejudice of the Church and Gospell Secondly they may publish Lawes and Canons to settle and establish the true Confession of the Christian saith the sincere Ordinances of God and such a true worship Church-Government and Discipline which is most consonant to his Word throughout all Churches in their respective jurisdictions yea compell Ministers to doe their duties and people diligently to repaire to all the Ordinances of God to sanctifie the Lords day and to observe extraordinary dayes of humiliation and thanksgiving upon extraordinary occasions Thirdly They may enact Lawes and Ordinances to settle the places and times of publike Worship and all necessary circumstances w ch concern the same not peremptorily determined in the Scriptures concerning Church assemblies Fourthly They may enact Laws for the maintenance of Ministers of all necessary Church Officers and for prayer preaching reading the Word administring receaving the Lords Supper concerning ordination Mariage siging fasting excommunication agreeable to the Word of God This I presume all will grant and my Brother will not deny which is all I contend for Therfore Christs being the only King Head Ruler and Lawgiver of his Church is no impediment to Kings Parliaments by advise of Synods to enact such Lawes as these and so the Argument a meere Independent Nonsequitur Thirdly Christ is the King Lord Head and Lawgiver of every private Christian or Member of a Congregation as well as of every particular or of the whole Catholik Church and so by your determination he is subject to no other jurisdiction then that of Christ his Spirit and Word Yet I hope you will grant that every Independent Congregation hath a true jurisdiction and power over every particular member of it yea a legislative power to prescribe a speciall covenant and such Ecclesiasticall Rules Orders as the whole Congregation shall thinke meet to which they must submit under paine of excommunication suspension Non-communion and denying baptisme to their Infants as you plainly intimate pag. 44. 45 46 62 63. Therefore these titles and Prerogatives of Christ doe not deprive particular Churches of the power of prescribing covenants Orders Rules and Canons to their Members much lesse then whole Synods Councells Parliaments of farre greater wisdom power Authority then particular Churches And if private Churches may thus oblige their Members then much more may Parliaments Councells all particular Churches within their jurisdictions And so much in answer of this grand argument The second is this Christ is the full and sole King raigning in the heart and conscience of every true Beleever He only is King over every mans Conscience so as no man nor power on earth may sit with him in this his Throne Therefore no Parliament Councell nor human power may prescribe Laws for the Government or ordering of the Church for then of necessity man should be Lord over the Conscience which is the highest presumption against the most high I answer That this argument is grounded upon a very sandy foundation and upon this controversed question both among Divines and Casuists Whether Ecclesiasticall or Civill human Laws made and ratified by the supreame civill Magistrates Parliament bind necessarily oblige us to obedience in point of conscience in case they be not contrary to Gods Word for if they be all grant they do not bind to obedience in point of Conscience My Brother here holds the Negative as an indisputable Maxime That these Laws bind not the conscience in point of Obedience to them A very dangerous false unsound Position tending to meere Anarchy and contempt of all humane Lawes and lawfull Authority in Church or State And for my own part I clearely hold the Affirmative to be an undoubted truth This question is largly debated and held affirmatively by learned Paraeus Explicatio Dubiorum in c. 13. ad Romanos Dubium 7. pag. 1413. to 1446. by Musculus Peter Martyr Marlorat and Doctor Willet in their Commentaries on Rom. 13 with other Protestants on this Text by Ursinus in Exposit secundi Praecepti p. 299. by Theodoret Ambrose Beda Anselme and generally most ancient and modern Commentators on that Text by Alexander Alensis Summa Theologiae Pars. 2. qu 120. Artic 2. 3 4. with whom all other Shoolemen generally concurre Paulus Windek Canonum Legum Consensus Dissensus cap. 4. p. 12. Stapleton in Antid p. 783. Bellarmine l. 3. c. 9. De Laicis Pererius Disp 2. Num. 8. by Saint Augustine in Epist 54. ad Macedonium and in Tit. Psal 70. by Saint Bernard Tract de Praecepto Dispensat With infinite others Indeed Master Calvin Instit lib. 3. c. 9. Sect. 15. 18. and lib. 4. c. 10. Sect. 3. 4 5. Beza in Notis ad Rom. 13. Sibrandus De Pontif Romano l. 8. c. 7. and some others seemingly hold the contrary yet not generally of all but of some particular humane Lawes I shall briefly lay downe the truth of the affirmative part out of Pareus and Doctor Willet in these insuing Propositions and then propound the Affirmative and answer the Negative arguments in their Order to vindicate this truth now most opposed when it is most necessary both to be discovered and obeyed The Propositions are these That all just Civill Ecclesiasticall or Oeconomicall Laws and Ordinances made by the King and Parliament or by lawfull Magistrates Parents Masters Tutors Superiors which concerne the duties of the first or second Table do bind the Conscience of themselves and that simply both in generall and particular That all good Laws made for the determining of any necessary circumstances of Gods Worship or necessary and profitable for
liberty left them to elect what civil government they by publique consent shall deem most convenient provided it be generally agreeable to Gods Word which hath prescribed generall rules applicable to all civill Governments actions as well as Ecclesiasticall and spirituall though no one Government in particular And why the Government of the CHVRCH MILITANT should be more particularly uniformly unalterably said down in scripture then the Government of Christian Kingdoms Nations states under the Gospel which leaves both of them equally undetermined since both of them were alike limited among the Israelites under the Law no rational man cangive any solid reason Christ being King of Kings Lord of Lords yea a great King over all the Earth the only Potentate and Lord of Kingdoms Nations Republiques and of mens bodyes estates as well as KING and Lord of his Church Saints or of mens soules and consciences 9ly There was not only one uniforme Church-government at first under the Gospell in all Churches no not in the Apostles times for in the originall gathering and planting of the Christian Churches they had at first only Apostles Brethren no Elders or Deacons After that their Churches increasing they proceeded to elect ordain Deacons in the Churches of Ierusalem and afterwards some other Churches though not in all for ought we read Not long after the Apostls ordained Elders in Churches which had none at first after that Widowes in some Churches not in all In the primitive Churches some Congregations had Apostle s Evangelists Prophets workers of miracles Healers by miraculous extraordinary gifts of healing men endued with diversities of Tongues Interpretation of Tongues GOVERNMENTS that is men gifted with an extraordinary faculty of Governing Churches all which the Scriptures many Divines distinguish Other Churches at that time had none of these Officers or members and all Churches have beene deprived of them since those dayes these Officers not being perpetuall but temporary as all acknowledge though Christ might have continued a succession of them still had he pleased Therefore the Government and Officers of all Churches not being de facto one and the selfesame in all particulars in the very Primitive times as well as since it can never be proved to be of divine right but one the sel same in al succeeding ages without the least variation since it was not so in the Apostles days 10ly The Apostles speech 1. Cor. 12. 4 5. 6. c. There are diversities of gifts but the same spirit and there are differences of administrations but the same Lord and there are diversities of operations but the same God which worketh all in all compared with v. 8. to 13. ch 9. v. 19. to 24. I made my selfe servant unto all that I might gaine all And unto the Jew I became as a Jew that I might gaine the Jew to them that are under the Law as under the Law that I might gaine the Jew to them that are under the Law To them that are without Law as without Law that I might gaine them that are without Law To the weake I became as weake that I might gaine the weake I am made all things to all men that I might by all meanes save some paralleld with Acts 15. 1. 2. 5. 6. to 32. Ch. 21. 18. to 30. by which it is evident that many Churches of the Iewes and those in Jerusalem did still rotain the use of Circum●ition purification other Iewish Rites Ceremonies which the Churches of the Gentiles by the Apostles owne resolutions WERE NOT TO OBSERUE And with Acts c. 2. to cap. 22. where it expresly appeares that the Apostles and other Christians equally frequented the Iewish Temple Synagogues conforming themselves to the Orders discipline thereof and their owne private Assemblie Cougregations consisting all of professed Christians Wil expresly clear it that all particular Churches Congregations in the Apostles times had not one and the selfe same Church-government Orders Ceremonies Therefore it is most cleare there is no such uniforme general government or discipline necessarily prescribed in the Gospel unto al without the least variation as is objected Eleventhly It must be granted to me till disproved that before the Law from Adams Creation till Moses there was no one universall set forme of Church Government and discipline enjoyned to be observed by all the world from which none might vary in any particular That under the Law it selfe there was one forme of Government Worship Discipline Ceremonies and Solemnities to be observed in the Wildernesse another in the Lind of Canaan One forme in and under the Tabernacle revealed by God described by Moses another in and under the Temple shewed by God and appointed by David and Salomon Yea the second Temple and its Ornaments services differed somwhat from the first and all of them expired when the Gospell came If then there were no one universall constant forme of Church-Government Discipline before and under the Law it selfe then by parity of reason till direct Scripture proofes be produced to the contraty there neither is nor can be any such under the Gospell Twelfthly The Scripture as all must acknowledge gives not many particular but mostly generall Rules for the Government and regulating of our thoughts words actions lives Children Servants Families callings the fashion of our apparell gestures eating drinking sleep c. Yea the promises and threatnings in it are for the most part generall and indefinite yet applyable to every particular person and occasion If then there be for the most part only generall Rules precepts which admit some Latitude and variety in particulars prescribed to us for the very ordering and regulating of our thoughts words actions lives apparell meat drinke c. Then certainely there are but generall Rules and Precepts given us for the Government Discipline of the Churches which admit varieties of Government discipline in sundry particulars so as they agree in the generall with the Word and bee not repugnant to it as well as the generall Rules for regulating our words thoughts actions conversations callings apparell meat drinke and family Governments admit of variety which more immediately concerne every man then the more remote and generall Government of the Church But against this my Brother Burton Objects 1. That God in the Old Testament did give this charge to Moses See that thou doe all things according to the patterne shewed thee in the Mount Hee must not vary ONE PIN And when the Temple was built God was so exact in this that he would not leave it to David himselfe though both a King and a Prophet and a man after Gods owne heart to set up what worship he pleased in the Temple but God gave him an exact patterne of all and that not only by his Spirit but in writing that he might neither adde to nor omit IN THE LEAST TITLE 1 Chron. 28. And it was never left
to the Kings of Judah to doe the least thing in point of Reformation but onely to see that the Priests doe all strictly according to the prescript rule of the Law 2 Chron. 31. Now was the great Law-giver so strict under the Old Testament and is hee growne over remisse under the New In Ezechiels vision of the Temple or Church under the Gospell Ezechiell 43. 10 11. Wee read of a patterne of every particular thing belonging to the House of God exactly set downe and measured by Gods speciall rule and direction Ergo There is a most exact rule set down for the Government of all Churches under the Gospell in all particulars even to a Pin from which they must not vary in the least point or title Else a sluce would be opened to drowne the whole world in supestition and error I have elsewhere given a full answer to this common objection and manifested the absurdity of it to which my Brother hath not given the least reply and because much insisted on I shall once againe answer it here with some additions My Brothers first Argument from the premises if turned into a logicall forme is this God in the Old Testament shewed and prescribed to Moses in the Mount an exact patterne of the Tabernacle and its implements from which hee must not vary in one Pin or Title Ergo He hath prescribed an exact uniforme universall modell of Church-Government and Discipline under the Gospell for all Churches Nations Ages whatsoever from which they must not vary in the least Pin or Title What an Independent argument this is will appeare First by considering that the Tabernacle as all well know was no part of the Congregation or living Church of the Israelites made up onely of Circumcised persons of which our present controversie concerning Church-Government is meant but only the place wherein the Israelites met to Worship God during their Pilgrimage in the Wildernesse which Tabernacle ceased when the Temple was built and the Arke placed therein it being in truth nought else but a materiall moveable Temple answerable to our Churches Chappell 's and places of publike meeting for Gods Worship now but only in its moveablenesse The like may be said of Salomons materiall Temple what Argument can then be deduced thence to prove such an exact forme of Church Government setled under the Gospell as is objected I can not conjecture Brother I beseech you tell me in good earnest what you think of these following Arguments which may be retorted on you from this patterne with far more probability and reason then this objected First God in the old Testament prescribed the height length breadth compasse form and materials of which the Tabernacle Arke Altar Curtaines Candlesticks Sockets Rings Staves and every pin vessell utensill belonging to the Tabernacle should be made and expressed the same most punctually in writing commanding Moses to make all of them according to the patterne shewed him and not to vary in one Pinne as you may read Exod. cap. 25. to c. 40. Ergo Christ in the New-Testament hath a punctually prescribed to all Christians nations in as direct words the expresse form matter dimensions portraiture of all Christian Churches Temples Chappell 's and all Tables Chalices Pulpits Pues with other Appurtenances to them belonging from which they must not vary in one pin or title Secondly God in the Old Testament appointed particularly and by name who should build the Tabernacle and make all the Implements sur●ure there belonging and appointed by name B●zaliel and Aholiah to be the chiefe workmen And every wisehearted man and cunning Artificer imployed in this building this Architecture whom God himselfe endued with speciall skill wisdome and ability for this work not any Priest or Levite Exod. 31. 1. to 10. chap. 35 30. to 31. c. 36. 1. 2 3. c. c. 37. to 40. Ergo none but those Artificers whom God doth immediately name and endow with extraordinary gifts from Heaven None but Embroyderers Gold-Smiths Carpenters Ioyners Carvers Masons not Ministers Presbyters Deacons or Evangelicall Pastors must under the Gospell build up the spirituall Churches of Christ and settle the true Government and Discipline thereof Thirdly The very frame fashion Colour and materialls of the holy Garments which Aron and his Sons should weare when they came to minister before the Lord were expresly set downe and the use of them enjoyned under paine of death in the Old Testament and were a part of the patterne shewed to MOSES in the Mount from which hee might not vary in one Pin or Title Exodus c. 28. and 29. and 39. and 40. Ergo The very forme fashion matter and coulour of all Ministers Elders Deacons Garments in which they should minister is as punctually prescribed and limited under like penalties in the Gospell from which they must not vary Fourthly The Tabernacle and Temple too under the Law were made and built by the hands of men and were onely corporall not spirituall buildings in the spirits of men Ergo the Church under the Gospell is such to And then what will becom of your strange determinations p. 49. 50. That the Church is a spirituall house whose ONLY BUILDER is Christ and NOT MAN c. Fourthly This patterne in the Mount was shewed and delivered by god only to Moses the Temporall Magistrate not to Aaron or the Priests and he was to make and see all things made according to this patterne without the least variation by the helpe of Bezaliel and other lay-Artificers Ergo the framing setling of Church-government Discipline under the Gospell belongs wholly or principally to the supreame temporall Majestrates and to such Lay Artificers as they shall please to take to their assistance Not to Bishops Presbyters Ministers or any Ecclesiasticall persons Brother If you grant all these foure Arguments absurd false or incoherent as I presume you will then by the selfe same reason your owne Argument must much more be so And therefore I beseech you now at last to consider on what false sandy ground and absurd Inconsequencies your Independent Churches are built Secondly I pray inform me Brother if you are able If there be such an exact apparent unalterable forme of Church-government prescribed under the Gospell as there was of the Tabernacle Altar Temple in the Old in all particulars why the one is not as clearely and punctually set downe without any obscurity in the New Testament as the other is in the Old If you can shew us any such unalterable forme intirely delineated all together in precise direct termes in the one as we can shew you to in the other the controversie would bee ended without more dispute But since this cannot bee done and your selfe confesse in your Margin p. 6. which contradicts and subverts your Text We doe not say the same things are prescribed under the Gospell NOR DOTH IT COME TO SUCH CIRCUMSTANTIALS but we say and I say so to what it prescribeth ●s to
be kept and so say all but what that i● is the question and page 5. in the Margin Not but we grant AVARIETIE in the method and maner of preaching the Gospell in point of circumstance so as the substance be kept c. SO IN CHURCH GOVERNMENT whereas you averre Moses and David might not in the building of the Tabernacle and Temple VARY IN ONE PIN OR TITLE in your Text I shall thence retort the Argument here upon you thus The forme of the Government of the Church under the Gospell is not so fully or particularly held forth in direct termes in the New Testament as the patterne of the Tabernacle and Temple was in the Old Neither is there any such precept in the New not to vary in the ●east Title from any frame or patterne of Church-government therein prescribed as therewas for not varying from their patternes in the Old Therefore there is no such exact punctuall forme of Church-Government therein instituted or prescribed as is pretended Thirdly Admit the Argument true yet then the great question remaines unresolved Whether your Independent forme onely bee this patterne in the Mount prescribed in the New Testament This I am certaine neither the patterne of the Tabernacle Altar Temple nor Ezechiels measuring of the Temple will ever be able to evidence neither by way of argument nor illustration And therefore you may doe well to insist no more upon them unlesse you will make the world swallow downe this Independent Logick Divinity Moses had a patterne of the Tabernacle shewed to him in the Mount and David the patterne of the Temple shewed him by the Spirit both of them put into writing and Ezechiell did set down the patterne and frame of the Temple and measured it exactly Ergo the Independent New-invented Government is as exactly de●ineated and set downe in the New Testament as these in the Old yea the onely way and Government of Christ from which none must vary in the least Title The second Argument from David the Temple That he gave Solomon an exact patterne of the Porch Chambers Vessels Mercy-seats Treasuries and whole Fabrick of the Temple not only by the Spirit but in writing from which he might not vary in one title Ergo there is a set forme of Church-government and Disciplin prescribed in the Gospel and the Independent it Receives the same Answer and is as incoherent as the first wherefore I shall passe it by with these briefe observations 1. That this Patterne was shewed by the Spirit to David and by him delivered in writing to his Son King Solomon the supream temporall Magistrate who built the Temple and followed this Patterne not to the High-Priest or any other Priests or Levites who were to be ordered directed by David and Solomon not they by them in the services of the Temple Therefore if any good conclusion can bee deduced hence it will be this That under the Gospel the ordering settling of the Government Discipline and Ministers of the Church belongs to the supreame temporall Magistrate as it did under the Law not to the Priests or every particular Independent Congregation who now usurpe this royal uthority without warrant or president Secondly This patterne was exactly set downe in writing as you object distinctly by it selfe and delivered unto Solomon to follow But you can shew no written pattern for your Independent or any other precise universall setteforme of Church-government or Discipline delivered unto any particular person Church or Nation under the Gospell nor distinctly set downe by it selfe in the New Testament Therefore there is no such prescript forme Thirdly This Patterne was principally of the materialls fabricke Altar Porch Chambers Vessells and furniture of the Temple not of the Government of the Church and Congregation neither was there one fillable in it concerning Ecclesiastical Discipline or Church Censures Therefore you can only apply it to materiall Churches under the Gospell and inferre thence Ergo there is a prescript patterne of the materialls forme fashion Porches Chambers Vessels yea Altars for all our Churches Chappell 's given and prescribed to us in writing in the New Testament if you can shew us where as there was to Solomon of the materiall Temple in the old not of the Discipline and Government of the living Temples or Congregations of Christian men the only Church whose fabrick Government and Discipline is now in question Fourthly When the Temple was built and consecrated the Priests and peoples services Ceremonies attendance in and about the Tabernacle wholly ceased though appointed by God and soe the very Forme Ceremonies and services of the Church under the Law were both various and changable yea when the first Temple was destroyed the Temple-services ceased till the second Temple was built much different and inferior improportion beauty Ornaments materialls some services from the former all the services whereof expired by Christs death and were abolished soone after upon the destruction of Ierusalem If this president then of the Temple hath any weight it is to sway the ballance on my side that there is no one unversall unalterable set form of Church government in all particulars prescribed to all Churches under the Gospell but such as admits of some variations and changes as the Tabernacle Temples their services did provided they be suitable to the generall rules of Gods word and not repugnant therunto The third argument That Ezechiell saw the patterne of the Temple in a vison measured it with the parts Chambers Court Altars Implements thereof in all their dimensions and was to shew them to the people which house was a Type of the Church under the Gospell as is said not proved Ergo there is a set forme of Church-government held out and shewed to us under the Gospell and the Independent Platforme it Wants bones to support and sinewes to knit it together For first his measuring and vision was only of the Iewish Temple and no other which was but one not of their Synogogues much lesse of our materiall Christian Churches now which were many Acts 15. 21. Ps 74. 8. 2ly This vision and measuring was not of the Government but only of the fabricke Chambers Court Altar of the material Temple long since abolished and our Churches under the Gospel neither have nor ought to have any such Chambers Porch dimentions courts altars Implements as that Temple had or as Ezechiel saw or measured If then this vision prove nothing for set formes or patterns of materiall Churches Porches Churchyeards Altars not yet for the use of Altars under the Gospell as you will grant I am confident they can prove lesse then nothing for any such set forme of Church-government and discipline as is pretended which Ezechiell saw not in his vision nor ever shewed to the people and yet appeares not fully in the New Testament Perhaps Bishop Mountague from this vision and the two former
Patterns deduced his Assize of surplesses and paterne of the new Altars Rules c. prescribed to be enquired of in his Visitation Articles But I hope my deare Brother can not spie out any such vision nor deduce any such conclusion from this Text nor from that of measuring the Temple Altar in the Revelation which I have elswhere answered and shall here omit The 4th Argument from Dutr. 4. 2. c. 12. 31. Proverb 30. 6. Reu. 22. 19. That God hath prohibited any addition to the Booke of sacred Scripture under a plague and heavy punishment Ergo there is a set forme of Church-government and discipline prescribed in the Gospell which none may vary from by addition or diminuition Is a meere Non-sequitur For first these Texts speake only of Additions to the Bookes Doctrine Histories Prophesies of the Canonicall Scriptures then written as my Brother acknowledgeth and the Texts infallibly prove not of any Church-government Discipline Ceremonies under the Gospell not so much as mentioned or imagined in them Therefore Brother you doe very ill for to wrest these Scriptures thus against their sence and meaning 2ly Brother you know that God himselfe after the writing of the Booke of Deuteronomie the Proveths caused divers other Bookes of Canonicall Scriptures in the old and the whole New Testament to be written for the further benefit and Instruction of his Church Yea many Additions were made to the service of God in the Temple not mentioned by Moses without infringing these Texts therefore your citing of them without any limitation is very impertinent 3ly I feare Brother that those who hold there is an absolute set forme of Church-goverment prescribed in the word to all Churches though they cannot shew it and yet cry up their Independent way as the very Government discipline Kingdome and Ordinance of Christ himselfe though they neither prove nor demonstrate it are far more guilty of this sinne of transegressing these texts by Adding to Gods word then those who deny it are of adding to or detracting from it Take heed therefore I pray of this sin your selfe which you would fasten upon others You know who are most guilty of this va●ting cry The Temple of the Lord the Temple of the Lord the Temple of the Lord are these when yet they were but lying words which party boastes most of the Divinity of their way your whole Book sursets of this in every Page without one solid text to warrant what you so frequently over-confidently affirme Wherefore this Argument returns wholy on your self My Brothers 3. Objection is from the 1 Cor. 7. 17. So ordaine I in all Churches 1. Cor. 16. 1. Now concerning the collection the Saints as I have given order to the Churches of Galatia SO ALSO DO YE Every first day of the weeke or some one day of the weeke or weekly as some translate and the phrase will beare it let every one of you lay BY HIMSELFE in store as God hath prospered him that there be no gatherings when I come Act 14. 25. And when they had ordained them Elders in EVERY CHVRCH From which Authorities only and no other in the New Testament he inferrs That there is but ONE and the selfe same forme of Churchgovernment and Discipline prescribed to all Churches in the world in all ages without the least liberty of varying one from another or from the forme pretended to be thus prescribed But deare Brother what will you say if none of these Scriptures prove any such conclusion but the contrary have you not then injured the Readers and truth hereby Heare then how you are mistaken in them The question you know is not concerning Precepts Doctrines or Rules of faith which are the selfe same to all Persons Churches Ages and binde all alike but only of Church-Government disciplin But hath your first and principall text any relation thereunto No verily but to a meere privat case of conscience then undescided Whether a beleeving Wife might depart from an unbeleeving Husband or a beleeving Husband from an unbeleeving wife without mutuall consent if the unbeleever were willing to cohabit with the other This was the case of conscience then in question at Corinth and propounded specially to the Apostle to whom they Wrote for resolution v. 1. To this the Apostle gives a final desciton in the negative shewing sundry reasons for it v. 10. to 16. then v. 17. he concludes As the Lord hath called every one so let him walke AND SO ORDAINI IN AL CHVRCHES Now what Brother is this private case of conscience to one set forme of Church Disciplin or Government doth the Apostle say that this he ordained to be the very same in all Churches no verily there is no such mention or intention in the Text or Chapter so that the true deduction from hence will be but this absurd Nonsequitur The Apostle by the determination of Gods spirit ordained in every Church that Beleeving Wives or Husbands should not forsake their unbeleeving Consorts if they desired to cohabit with them Ergo he ordained one and the selfe-same unalterable set forme of Church-government and Discipline in all Churches whatsoever Your 2d text makes cleane against you For first the Apostle 1. Cor. 16. 1. 2. doth not say that he gave order for a collection in all Churches alike but only in the Churches of Galatia and there were many Churches else besides them Therefore this extends only to particular Churches not to all And so no proofe of any one universall Government of Discipline prescribed alike to all Secondly It was an order only upon a particular emergent transient occasion which might seldome or never happen againe to wit The present necessity of the Saints at Ierusalem in respect of a dearth and famine there To argue therefore an universall standing Church-government and Discipline from a particular transient occasion not permanent and lasting but contingent and temporany for this particular time and occasion only is very incongruous Thirdly The Apostle here prescribed no publique duty relating to Church-government or Discipline nor yet to be performed in the open Congregation for then there might have beene some vigor in the Text but but only a voluntary preparatory benevolence to be weekly laide apart in private according to Gods blessing on every mans estates as is cleane by the words Vpon the first day of the Week or wekely Let every one of you lay a part BY HIMSELFE not contribute publiquely in the Church in store as God hath prospered him that so there may be no collections when I come Therefore this Action hath no relation at all to Church-government Discipline or ought to be done publikly in the Church Fourthly This collection and the maner of it for every man to lay aside by himselfe some thing weekely according as God hath prospered him was only a preparatory extraordinary collection as the last clause that there may be
no collections when I come and the very words import Therefore it can be no president for an ordinary constant unalterable universall Church-government and discipline established in all Churches 5ly Which takes of all and turnes its edg against my Brother It is must be confessed that this is no binding precept nor president in point of collections themselves much lesse then in other things For 〈◊〉 demand of my Brother 1. Whether this text did simply bind all the Corinthians to a weekely preparatory contribution towards the poore Brethrens necessities that were in Jerusalem so as they might not deny or vary from it it being rather a bare advise then a peremptory precept a meere voluntary charitable action as is cleare by comparing it with Act. 13 28. 29. 30. Rom. 15. 25. 26. 2 Cor. 8. 9. 1. to 15. especially v. 7. Every man according as he hath purposed in his heart so let him give not grudgingly as of necessity for God loveth a cheareful giver 2. Whether they were necessarily tied to make privat contributions only on the first day of the week no other or had they not a liberty notwithstanding this order to do it on any other week day as wel as on the first or every day or every fortnight or 10. dayes if they pleased as their particular occasions and conditions administred abillity or opportunity for such a charitable worke 3ly Whether this prescript forme of collection admitting it obligatory during this occasion did bind any Church but this of Corinth and those of Galatia only or whether it obliged all other Churches then or simply binds all Churches now to this forme of preparatory or privat contributions or not If you say no then you yeeld the cause since this president binds no Churches now to any punctuall imitation Therefore it is no proofe at all for any one divine universall unvariable forme of Church-government and discipline in all ages prescribed by Scripture If you say yea then all Christians Congregations in the world your Independent to offend against this the Apostles divine institution in not retaining this form of privat collections by segregating something for the use of the poore Sai●ts on every Lords day or weekly in suffering publique gatherings for the poore in Churches on Lecture dayes or week-day fasts whereas these were no such collections but only laying somthing up in private by way of preparatory Charity against the Apostles comming who would then receive every mans particular Charity by itselfe and not trouble them with any publike collections In one word No Churches nor Independent Congregations hold themselves strictly obliged to this forme of collection which was not publique but private every man by himselfe but all hould they may with safe conscience vary from it Therefore if this collection be a part of Church-government or Discipline under the Gospell as you make it this Government Disciplin is both mutable and arbitrable in this particular and so by consequence in others to as occasions and conditions of the Church do vary Your third Text of Acts 14. 23. When they had ordained them Elders in every Church proves nothing for what you alledge it For first it extends not to all Churches then planted in the World but onely to every Church in Derbie Lystra Iconium Antioch to which every Church relates as is cleare by comparing it with the three preceding and following verses whence the Argument from this Text can be but this The Apostles ordained Elders in every Church at Derbe Lystra Iconium and Antioch and so in every City in Creete Tit. 1. 5. Ergo in all Churches throughout the world Which is no infallible inference They might do it in all or most Cities where the Congregations were great yet not in Villages or lesser places where the number of Beleevers was but small Secondly This proues there were Elders ordained by the Apostles in many if not most Churches But yet it concludes not infallibly that there must of necessity bee Elders ordained by those who are no Apostles in all Churches There were such Elders then Ergo there must of necessity be such now in every Church unlesse there be a direct precept enjoyning them for perpetuity is no infallible Argument Thirdly Admit it generall and binding unto all yet this proves onely that there ought by Apostolicall president and institution to be Elders not one but more in all Churches what then becomes of some of your Independent Churches which have none as Master Simsons had none in Holland and as no new Independent Churches in or about London had when they were first gathered These certainly were no true Churches of Christ by this rule because they wanted Elders Fourthly This Text speakes onely in the generall that they ordained Elders in every Church But what sort of Elders they were Ruling or Preaching Elders onely or such who did both Rule and Preach or in what manner they were ordained whether by lifting up of hands onely to chuse them and no more or by laying hands upon them or by the Apostles owne imposition of hands only as Apostles or joyning with others as ordinary Ministers or in any other form is not expressed So that this Text onely informes us that there were Elders ordained in every Church but determines nothing of their office or in what manner or form they were ordained Therefore it concludes nothing for any exact compleat unalterable universall forme of Church-government in all particulars prescribed to all Churches ordaining of Elders being onely one part of Church-government not the whol no part of Discipline that left very indefinitely in respect of the manner and forme which the Scripture hath not by any direct precept or president reduced to an unalterable certainty but rather left Arbitrary and indefinite as will appeare by comparing Num. 8. 10. Acts 1 23. 24. 25. 26. c. 6. 5. 6. c. 14. 23. 1 Cor. 4. 14. c. 5. 17. 22. 2 Tim. 1. 6. 1 Tim. 4. 14. Tit. 1. 5. It being a great Controversie at this day whether imposition of hands be now simply necessary in the ordination of Presbyters Deacons or Lay-Elders or whether it be but an arbitrary ceremony which may be omitted without prejudice if there be cause whether it belonged to the Apostles onely as Apostles or as Presbyters whether it be appropriated to Preaching Elders onely as such or to ruling Elders as well as they or to the whol Church or Congregation and such as they shall appoint Or to Arch-bishops and Bishops only as such as many held of late though now that question is out of date So as neither of these Texts in severall nor any nor all three of them conjoyned prove any such conclusion or universall set forme of Church-government and Discipline for all Churches as is pretended My Brothers 4. Objection is The every particular Congregation is a compleate intire absolute spirituall Republike Corporation Body and City of God of it self
Elders Members Ordinances Prayers preaching Sacraments reading of the Word maintenance and the like of its owne within it selfe yetso as not simply to exclude all others from preaching or communicating with them when there is occasion and in this regard the definition of a Church given in out Homilies and by others That it is a company of men outwardly professing the faith of Christ wherein the Word of God is syncerely preached and the Sacraments duly administred belongs unto it But yet it followes not hereupon that it is either an absolute or Independent Church or a compleate body in all respects exempt from all superior jurisdiction but a dependent subordinate Congregation and a meere Member in respect of the Nationall Provinciall or Catholike Church For as every private person familie Corpotion Society City considered in themselves are compleate perfect men bodies Societies c. but in relation to the Families Kingdoms Cities Republikes wherin they are meete dependent subordinate parts Members of the whole common body to whose just Laws commands they are all equally subject or as every particular persons families or corporations interests in their owne persons liberties lands estates Children servants is good and absolute against all other private persons or corporations who have no power to deprive them of them but yet subordinate to the publike interest and power of the whole kingdom Pa●●ia who may command or dispose of them upon all just occasions for the safety and service of that common bodywhere of they are all Members which may give Laws of common right to all and deprive them of all private interests priviledges for the publike good Salus popul● being Suprema lex to which all Privadoes must submit So it is with every particular Christian Congregation As a private Christian or Church they have a private compleatnesse absolutenesse and Ordinances within themselves of which no other particular Christian or Church can deprive them not judicially question them for But yet this private Christian as a Member of a Congregation and this particular Congregation as a Member of the Nationall and Catholik Church of Christ are neither absolute not independent but subordinate to the other Churches Synodically assembled to the supreame Councell of Parliament the representative Church and State of England who may prescribe Laws unto them and to the Civil Magistrate who may both censure correct them to For example if any particular Congregation or any Pastor or Member of it shall abuse or exceed their private power to the oppression of any of the●● owne Members or injury of their neighbour Churches as by separating from their communion without just cause erecting a new private forme of Church-Government or Discipline in opposition to other Churches of the same or other Realms without publike authority to the engendring of schi●mes or broach any hereticall seditious Erronious Doctrines as some now do set up Idolatry supersition innovations or falfe worship abuse or prophane the Sacraments become licencious vitious or scandalous in their lives injure their owne Members without giving them satisfaction or reliefe entertaine all sorts of Sectaries deny communion in Sacraments or other Ordinances with the Members of their neighbour Churches who desire it upon just occasions debarre any of their Members from the Lords Supper or their Children from Baptisme without just cause be unable to resolve doubts and controversies in Religion betweene Minister and people or Members or to judge of doubtfull cases Vsu●pe more power then is meet to the impeaching of the Magistrates Authority wants meanes to raise monyes to provide an able Minister or defray their necessary Church expences or invades the Rights of other Neighbour Churches or refuseth obedience to such publike Ecclesiassticall Lawes which tend to the peace and unity of the whole Nationall Church In all these cases and others which concerne the Nationall or whol Catholike Church in general or other neighbouring Churches in particular no particular Church is an absolute or Independent body of it self but only a subordinate Member Subject to the Lawes Ordinances Determinations censures of the whole Church of that Nation combined in Parliament and to Nationall Provinciall Synods and Presbyteries established by common consent in Parliament as well as every Member of a Family City Society Kingdom Army or Realm is subordinate to the whol Family City Army Realm which no reasonable creature or Consciencious person can or dares deny Secondly I answer That this very argument is a most dangerous seditious Par●dox destructive to all Republikes and Societies of men A Cockatrice fit to be crushed in the shell ere it prove a devouring Serpent to Church and State as you may discerne by these instances in my Brothers way of arguing For may not any Independent Company 〈◊〉 Regiment or Brigade in our Armies argue just in this very straine Every Company Troop Regiment Brigade is a compleate body of it selfe having an its owne necessary Officers and Commanders Therefore we will not joyne with or submit to the commands Orders Military Lawes or directions of my Lord Generall the councell of Warre or any superior Officer but bee ruled commanded only by our selves and and the Parliaments own immediate commands to which we are onely subject Any Independent Family Streete parish Company or Ward only in the City argue thus we are an absolute compleate body family street parish company Ward within our selves Therefore we will not wee may not be governed directed commanded or censured by my Lord Major the Court of Aldermen or Common Councell but only by and within our selves Any Independent child servant Wife or Member of any such Congregation alleage I am an absolute Man Woman Christian of my selfe Therefore I may not I will not be commanded governed overruled obliged corrected by my Parents Master Husband or that Congregation of which I am a Member but only by my selfe Any independent County City Committee or Court of Justice argue Wee are a compleate County City Committee Court in and of our selves Ergo Wee neither will nor must submit to any Lawes or Ordinances of the high Court of Parliament Yea every Colledge in our Vniversities dispute thus We are a compleate Colledge and corporation within our selves Ergo the Chancellor Vicechancellor Convocation Congregation and whole Vniversity have no Authority to controle judge or order us Brother if such Arguments as these should be once admitted as they now begin to grow very rise in all places I referre to your saddest thoughts what will become of all our Armies Parishes Cities Churches Families Parliaments Kingdome in a short space Will they not all be dissipated dissolved in a moment and nought but a Chaos of confusion disobedience Schisme Anarchy and disorder cover their faces I beseech you therefore consider and retract this new monstrous Logick and Divinity which cuts in sunder all relations and subverts the very pillars foundations of all Government Order Peace Vnity both in Church and State But my Brother Objects 3.
things to make good his Argument 1. That if there were no other particular Church in the world then one as that of Abrahams family should it not be a compleat Church untill there were other Churches on whose jurisdiction it should depend I answer yes But this is not the case nor question We in our Realme blessed be God have in all parts not only one particular christian family church but many thousand Parochiall Churches Congregations as our very Almanacks as well as Cosmographers will informe you What then Brother will you inferre from this sole Church in Abrahams family to our Churches now Will you argue Abraham in his dayes had a compleat absolute Independent Church in his own family onely Ergo now there ought to be such an Independent absolute Church in every family at least where there is a sufficient number requisite to make up a ministeriall body as you interpret it what then will become of your congregationall Churches and our Parochial consisting of many great families they must by this new Doctrine divide themselves presently into so many families or Independent Churches as there are great families in them and then I hope the Master of the family onely not an Independent Minister must be their Paster and Ruler as Abraham was in his and then farewell the office of Minister which some of your Lay Elders exercise without scruple denying the very calling of Ministers and all our Churches too Brother will you argue thus Adam was a compleat and absolute man alone therefore he needed not a helper or wife or family to be joyned to him Suppose you should take a single person who formerly lived alone by and of himselfe without relation to or communion with any other men like a Popish Hermite or Anchorite into your family Church or incorporate him into this City or any company in it will you say that because this man was absolute and under no command at first Ergo he must continue so still in your family Church this City and his company and neither you nor any of them may or can of right enact any thing to controle him I trow not When there were only single Families living remote from others in the world they were absolute and compleate Churches Republikes of themselves but when these single families multiplyed and combined themselves into Villages Cities Provinces Republikes Kingdomes they thereby lost their pristine liberty absolutenesse independencie compleatnesse and of intire small bodies Churches Republikes became onely parts and members of those larger ones to which they were thus combined So it is with particular Mother Churches when there was but one particular Church in the world or in one State or Kingdome the case of all the first Churches planted by the Apostles without any Neighbour Churches to combine with this Church being under no superiour Christian Magistrates was absolute and independent in it selfe there being no other Church to joyne with But if this one Church through the encrease of Christians shall swell so great as to spread it selfe over all the City or Republike wherein it is and so upon necessity must divide it selfe into sundry particular Congregations then all these Churches being under one and the selfe-same Republike and united together under one supreame Civill Magistrate as members of the same Nation Kingdom City Republike and of the self-same nationall or Provinciall Church doe thereupon lose their absolutenes and Independency and become subject to the Power Lawes Canons Determinations Government and Discipline of the whole Nationall Church and Kingdome of which they are but members which to preserve publike peace unity order amity ought constantly to be governed by the self-same generall Ecclesiasticall Lawes setled by the common consent of all their severall National Synods and Parliaments as Civill Lawes are which oblige all But this saith my Brother in the second place takes away the lawfull Jurisdiction and rights of particular Churches Ergo it is not to be admitted I answer first By the like reason you may argue the joyning of many particular persons into one family of divers families into one Parish of sundry Parishes into one City of divers Citie into one State of sundry States and Kingdomes into one Monarchy or Empire of divers Companies and Regiments into one Army of sundry Knights Citizens Burgess●● and Peeres into one Parliament and many Ministers into one Synod deprives them of their Independency their particular Rights Interests and subjects them to a new superiour power Iurisdiction command and to their publicke Lawes and Ordinances Ergo it is unlawfull intollerable and such Corporations Republicks Kingdomes Empires Parliaments Synods ought not to be If this be a good consequence you will subvert all humane Societies Corporations Republicks Synods Parliaments Independent Churches and Families to by like reason ● This takes not away the lawfull rights of particular Congregations but rather improves them for their owne particular and the publick good for Brother I pray informe me which is best of the two for a particular Church or Corporation to be subject only to such Lawes Rules Government and Discipline as shall be made decreed declared most agreeable to the Word of God and fit to be generally received in all Churches by an whole Parliament and Assembly of the most wise ablest and best experienced Christians Nobles Divines after long debate and consideration or by the private rash Opinions and perchance passions humours of two or three private persons perhaps directed swayed by particuler interests relations ends Which is justest safest or most remote from Tyrannicall Arbitrary and Papall Government for Churches States Persons to be all confined to certaine publicke Lawes and Canons enacted by common consent in Parliament limiting who shall be admitted to who secluded from the Congregation Sacrament communion of Saints c. and for what causes offences in certaine c. then to be left Arbitrary to the meer mercy wills determinations of the Ministers and Elders of every particular Congregation or to the pleasures of Princes or some few temporall Magistrates without any Lawes or limits to restrain them We all hold it the greatest happinesse freedome of our Kingdom and the chiefest part of our Priviledge which we enjoy as free-men of England That we neither may nor can be legally bound by any Lawes Canons Taxes or Commands but only such as are made and imposed on us by full consent in Parliament and not subject to the meere Arbitrary Lawes Ordinances wills commands of our Princes Magistrates Iudges Prelates or any other private men And shall it be then held the slavery injury and not rather the liberty or priviledge of particular Churches and their members to be subject only to such Ecclesiasticall Rules Canons Orders Covenants Government and Discipline as shall be publickly agreed on consented to and setled in Parliament to which all Churches Christians shall be equally obliged without exemption then to be left at six and
Nationall Synod wherein these Churches are all combined hath no juridiction or legislative Authority over them nor any other particular congregation under their precincts A doughty Argument much like this in effect The Burrough of Westminster hath no jurisdiction nor power to make binding Lawes for the Burrough of Southwarke not the county of Kent for the county of Middlesex nor any one City County or Burrough in England power to prescribe Lawes to one another Ergo all these counties cities burroughs assembled in Parliament in their Knights and Burgesses have no power to make Lawes to bind any of them nor the Kingdome And what then becomes of our Parliaments Authority and legislative power if this kind of logick be admitted 4. My Brother other Independents generally grant that every Congregation may and ought to give an account of their actions censures proceedings and opinions to another private Church therefore they are not absolute nor simply Independent in regard of other particuler Churches much lesse then in respect of an whole Nationall Synod Parliament or Presbitery which reason others having largely prosecuted I shall but touch 5. I demand whether every particular Church or Congregation whatsoever be such an absolute compleat independent body in it selfe subject only unto Christ c. or only independent Churches and congregations If Independent only I pray shew your Magna Charta for such a peculier priviledge which no Churches else enjoy or challenge but onely yours If all particuler Churches enjoy this priviledge then marke the consequence Papists Arminians Anabaptists Sociniaas Antinomians Arrians Familists and as one Master Williams an Independent affirmes in Print Mahumetans Iewes and all the severall Sects of Religions in the world mustered up by Master Samuel Purchas in his Pilgrimage and Voyages must be absolute and Independent to nor may any Magistrates Parliament Synod make Lawes to regulate reclaime suppresse or punish them because they are subject to none but to Christ and accountable onely to him and their consciences free then every Sectary Schismaticke Hereticke what soever may gather and set up an Independent Church of three or foure families persons in a corner and neither King Parliament nor Presbiteries may question or suppresse them because they are immediatly subject to none but Christ Then persons questioned excommunicated by their congregations or such members of your Churches who either feare your censure or fall into any pett or humour against your Ministers Elders Government may set up a new Church of their owne and so avoyd both your jurisdiction and censures In one word this absurd Paradox would open a large guppe to all Errours Heresies all Sectaries Schismaticks impious practises and opinions without the least impunity restraint or meanes of reformation 6. This conceit derived onely from the Pope himself who claimes this priviledge that he is subject and accountable to none but Christ himselfe in spirituall things and is an Independent Church within himselfe as the Iesuites with others affirme makes every Independent Church or Minister a meere Pope subject and accomptable to Christ alone I beseech you therefore Deare Brother tell me how you can be said to renounce the Pope Popery Antichrist and abolish them out of our Realme to your utmost power according to your Vow and Covenant when as you banish onely one Pope and set up many in making every Independent Minister and Congregation a meer Antichristian Pope exalting it above all that is called God as immediately subiect to none but Christ My Brothers fifth Objection is That Christ should be very unfaithfull carelesse and leave his Church to six and seven if he had not prescribed as exact a Church Government and Discipline for it under the Law as under the Gospel And we should have a mad world he should say Church if it were left to Christian Princes Civill States or Parliaments to set up such a Church-government and Discipline as they should conceive were most suiteable to Gods Word and the Lawes and customes of the Realm and manners of their people I Answer 1. In generall In generall that this is onely words not proofes matters of fact as this now controverted is must be ever proved by reall visible demonstrations not farre-fetched inferences fancies probabilities suggestions or pretended inconveniences of our owne devising Therefore Brother trouble not the world any more with inferences or illustrations of what is not but produce some down-right Scripture proofes of what really is what Philip spake in one sence to our Saviour Shew us the Father and it sufficeth us I shall say to you shew us your Church-Government deliniated prescribed to all Churches in Scripture in all particulars wherein we differ and it shall suffice us but your Inferences from the Tabernacle Temple Ezechiels vision these objected inconveniences neither will nor can satisfie any man who hath any science conscience or reason to guide his choise 2. I answer That Christ hath not been so extreamly negligent or carelesse as to leave his Church under the Gospel at six and seven though he hath not been so exact in prescribing or establishing a set forme of Church-Government and Discipline under the Gospel as he was in the Old Testament in setting downe the patterne of the Tabernacle Arke Temple under the Law as you object For Brother your selfe acknowledge in your Margent pag. 5. 6. upon second thoughts that he hath not done it though you affirme the contrary in your Text Wil you I pray argue that Christ is more carelesse of his Church under the Gospel then under the Law because the manner and time of Circumcision eating the Passeover consecrating of Priests with all their accoutrements the forme of the Tabernacle Temple with all the Services Sacrifices thereto belonging are more exactly and particularly set downe and prescribed in the Old Testament then the manner time or forme of Baptisme administring and receiving the Lords Supper ordination of Ministers the model or fashion of our Churches and their necessary furniture are in the New or because the use of solemne Vowes and Covenants your great Diana the manner of solemnizing Fasts sanctifying the Sabbath Feastivalls Nationall Assemblies c. are more exactly delineated and prescribed in the Old Testament then the New Or which soares higher was Christ more carelesse of his Church before then under the Law because he gave them not the Law in writing as he did in after times or carelesse of the Church under the Law because he gave them not the Gospel then but Law alone Brother your self acknowledge that Christ hath left his Churches childrens consciences more free under the Gospel then they were under the Law exempting them from the Ceremoniall Law and all humane Ordinances to which they were formerly obliged Is he therefore carelesse or unfaithfull I beseech you Brother take heede how you cast dirt in Christs owne face by such strained inferences or charge your Brother with no lesse
seven to what Rules Covenants Orders Censures Government Discipline every private Minister Eldership or every major part of a congregation shall arbitrarily prescribe unto their members as suitable to the Word No doubt he that hath a doubtfull case in Law would rather have the advice of many solid Lawyers then one he that is sicke in body will give more credit to the opinion of the whole Colledge of Physitians upon debate then to one or two Doctors or Apothecaries Whence the policies of all States Churches in all Ages have reserved the power of making Lawes and setling matters of greatest moment to their most generall Councells Parliaments and Assemblies not to Cabinet Counsells or Vesteries Brother it is a true rule of Aristotle that men are better governed by Laws which continue constant inpartiall inflexible then by Men whose lusts passions interests and private ends doe for the most part byasse them awry holds as well in Ecclesiasticall as civill Constitutions Therefore this legislative power and Jurisdiction of Parliaments and Synods over particular Churches is so farre from being a prejudice or slavery to them that it is as great a priviledge and freedome as our Parliaments are to our Kingdomes which onely make binding Lawes for all and the only meanes to free us from an arbitrary Government The third thing my Brother objects is That all these Churches where the Apostles Preached were of absolute Authority among themselves respectively and equall one to another not one of them having jurisdiction over another The seven Churches of Asia the Churches of Ephesus Corinth Antioch c. exercising all jurisdiction within themselves alone not being subordinate to themselves or any other as others object And in the Primitive Churches next after Christ for two hundred yeares or more the Government was almost popular and every Church had equall power of ordaining and casting out their Minister and were independent one of another as appeares by the Centurists Cent. 1. c. 7. Tit de Conso●iatione Ecclesiarum and De Synodis privatis To this I answer 1. That there is no such thing in the first Century my Brother quotes nor any thing in the second but that one particular Church and Bishop was not then Lord and soveraign over another but it saith not they were not subject to the determinations of publick Synods 2. That none of the Churches planted by the Apostles were absolute and Independent as you pretend For first they were all subject to the Apostles rules and directions both Churches Ministers Elders as is evident by the whole History of the Acts and all the Epistles written to those Churches after they were planted prescribing Rules and Directions to them for to follow by Pauls sending for the Elders of the Church of Ephesus to him to Miletus and giving them there a charge concerning themselves and their flockes Acts 20. 15. to 36. by ● Cor. 11. 18. That which commeth upon me daily the care of all the Churches c. 1 Cor. 11. 34. The rest will I set in order when I come by his commanding them to deliver the incestuous Corinthian to Sathan 1 Cor. 5. 4 5. Tit. 1. 5 6. Therefore they were not Independent or absolute in themselves but subordinate to the Apostles 2. Though they were not subordinate immediately one to another as one single Parish Church now is not subordinate to another particular Church nor the Churches of one City Republike Kingdom subordinate to another yet they were all subject to a Parliament Synod or combination of many Churches in cases of differences new opinions c. which concern the purity of Religion the suppressing of Schismes the common Peace or weale of all Churches in which all have equall interest as is cleare by the Synodicall determination and decrees of the Apostles Elders and Brethren at Ierusalem who sent Decrees to all the Churches of the Gentiles to observe Acts 15. throughout c. 21. 24 25. which is thus expressed Ch. 16. v. 4 5. And as they went through the Cities they delivered them THE DECREES FOR TO KEEPE THAT WERE ORDAINED OF THE APOSTLES AND ELDERS WHICH WERE AT HIERVSALEM And marke the happy fruites and effects of those Decrees And so was the Church established in the Faith and increased in number daily It was well there were no Independents then they would have quarrelled both this Synod and its Decrees as they doe most strangly now or sought for to avoyd this unavoydable president argued as some doe now What we are Independent Congregations absolute and compleate within our selves what hath the Church or Synod at Jerusalem to doe to make Decrees for us to keepe who are under Christ alone as our onely King Head Governour Law-giver not under Apostles Elders Synods or any other Church who may not Lord it over us Hence then I argue that the Churches then were not Independent because they thus readily embraced submitted to the observation of these Synodall Decrees which our Independent Churches will not stoop to saying Their Churches are absolute intirely their owne who is Lord over them Adde to this that the Apostle in the 1 Cor. 11. 15. argues the unlawfulnesse of womens praying without vailes and of mens wearing long haire ad never longer in England then now in the Church of Corinth from the very custome of other Churches Neverthelesse saith he if any man seens to be contentious in opposing the premises we have no such custome NEITHER THE CHVRCHES OF CHRIST where Paul from the custome of all other Churches of Christ condemnes the irregularity of some in the Church of Corinth whence I argue If the lawful laudable customes only of all other or most of the Churches of Christ ought to oblige a sister Church that is singular and different from them to uniformity with them in things convenient and just as this Text manifests then by like reason the just Decrees and Canons of many Churches combined ought to oblige particular Churches which are under their precincts 3. Though the Church of Corinth did not exercise Jurisdiction or claime a power over the Church of Philippi nor one of the seven Churches exercise a Jurisdiction over the other as they were single Churches and under severall civill Government whose Magistrates then were not Christians yet Paul John and the other Apostles held a jurisdiction over them as their Epistles to them manifest and they all combined in a Synod had power by their Deputies one over another not as particular Churches but as a Synod wherein they were all combined as the second Century cap. 7. Master Rutherford his due Right of Presbitires Art 15. p. 355. to 480. to whom I sha refer the Reader My Brothers Argument therefore is but this in substance The Church of Sepulchres hath no jurisdiction over Saint Androwes nor the Church of Pauls over Westminster not the Church of England over the Church of France or Scotland Ergo a generall Councell or