the defendant is ready to aver maintaine and prove his answer as shall please the King to award and to command And therefore he most humbly beseecheth the King if it please the King and that hee have found favour in his sight that his exceptions may be admitted and read and that his counsell learned in the law may be heard and suffered to speake This platforme of government intended by the admonitor not to be liked of in this place is that platforme of Church government Booke of Com. Pray tit Commination Homil. 2. part of the right use of the Church Admo pag. Whitgift p. 654. M. Nowell in his Cate. M. Calvin M. Iunius Looke Peti to her excellent Majestie p. 11. by Pastours and Elders which the Booke of Common Prayer the Doctrine of the Church of England doe highly command and which he himselfe Master D. Whitgift now Lord Archbishop of Canterbury and very many other c reverend Divines of our age doe publikely confesse in their writings to have beene practised by the Apostles and Primitive Church From whence it followeth that the government of the Church by Archbishops Bishops Suffraganes Archdeacons Deacons Chancellours Commissaries and Officialls now already planted and liked of was not practised by the Apostles and Primitive Church And therefore for my part I cannot but marvell that a disciple of the Apostles Doctrine and a successor in the Apostles Chaire should be drawne to humane reasons not to like of the Apostles government nor to tread in the steps of the Primitive Church For seeing the same is acknowledged by himself to be the first ways to be the old and ancient way as being the Apostles way why Ier. 6. 16. should we not walke therein as in the only good and perfect way The reverend Bishops will not deny that the Apostles and Primitive Church for their manner of governement had the mind of Christ and that we should follow the Apostles as having them for examples because they were the followers of Christ Againe they cannot but grant that the manner of governement practised by the Apostles and Primitive Church is written within the booke of the covenants of grace All which notwithstanding we see in this place that from the new Testament from the Articles of grace from the law from the testimonie from the example of the Apostles and from the mind of Christ we are addressed and turned over to our state of government to our countrey to our people to our Common weale and to our Lawes But this turning of devises shall it not bee esteemed as the Potters clay Isa 29. 16. But saith he to plant those things in this Church which are required to be redressed might bring rather the overthrow of the Gospell than the end that is desired Indeed say I if this might be as soone proved as it was soone said the case might have gone well with him But this parable is so darke that unlesse it be opened there is no light at all to be seene in it For he well knew that in stead of the government practised by the Apostles and Primitive Church the jurisdiction of Archbishops Bishops Suffragans Deacons Archdeacons Chancellors Commissaries and Officials is already planted in this Church And he was not ignorant also that the same jurisdiction only and none other is required to be redressed Now then if request be made that this manner of governement be redressed how can it evidently bee seene that to plant that manner of government might bring rather the overthrow of the Gospell than the end that is desired But it may be that he meant more lightsomely than he spake Yea let it be that he intended thus viz. to unplant that which is now planted and to plant those things which are yet unplanted by reason of many and great alterations might bring rather an overthrow of the Gospell than the end that is desired well I say be it so that he thus meant How is this thing evidently seene or how can it evidently be proved The best sight that the servant of Christ can have is faith For Faith is an evidence of things which are not seene This overthrow Heb. 11. then of the Gospell not being seene with his bodily eyes must needs be intended to have beene seene with the eyes of his faith But where is the word of Christ whereupon the eyes of his faith were fixed If then he hold no word of faith then of necessitie was his evident sight but an evident fancy And in deed what else could it be For what other thing is there desired to bee planted in this Church but only the Apostolicall government of Christ And what other Gospell could hee evidently see that might bee overthrowne by holding forth this scepter but only the Apostolicall doctrine of Christ A marvellous strange and unkinde sight I trow to be seene that the Apostolicall Governement could no sooner bee planted but that the Apostolicall doctrine must needs be rooted up That Christ by his owne scepter were not able to maintaine his owne grace by his owne order should weaken his owne oath or by his owne sword should cut from the people of God his owne Word But seeing it was his purpose to perswade the people unto a dislike of the Apostolicall government by arguments and reasons drawne from humane policie rather than to confirme them in a good opinion of the Prelaticall Government by proofes taken from the authoritie of holy Scripture we will follow him in this his veine Yea and by the help of God we will try of what efficacy such his politike and humane reasons may be as wherewith he did assay to disswade the people from consenting unto any other manner of Church Government than is already setled among us The generall effect of all which both here and else where spoken of by him briefly gathered is this Such things may not be planâ—ed in the Church of England as by attempting the planting whereof there is an evident sight that the Gospell among us may be overthrowne But there is an evident sight that the Gospell among us may be overthrown by attempting to plant that Government in the Church of England which was practised by the Apostles and the Primitive Church Therefore that manner of Governement may not be planted The assumption of which sillogisme hee endeavoureth to confirme thus whatsoever will draw with it many and great alterations of the state of Government and of the lawes the same may bring rather the overthrow of the Gospell than the end that is desired but the planting of the Governement practised by the Apostles and Primitive Church will draw with it many and great alterations of the state of Government and of the lawes Therefore the planting of this manner of government may rather bring an overthrow of the Gospell c. If any shall object that by thus gathering his argument I had in this place falsified his argument by adding more than is here
of Yorke and Silby were there present In a booke intituled the burning of Pauls Church in London 1561. and in the fift question moved by a papist it is said that this manner of ministration of Sacraments set forth in the booke of Common prayers was never allowed nor agreed upon c. no not by the Clergie of England at the last Parliament but only it was agreed upon by the Laitie which had nothing a doe with spirituall matters or causes of religion Whereunto the reverend Father Master Pilkington Bishop of M. Pilkington Bishop of Durisme Duresme answering was there not saith he a disputation for Religion appointed by the Queenes Majestie wherein your Clergie was affraid to utter their foolishnesse in defending their superstition lest they had taken more shame in answering than they did in holding their peace I thinke the Vniversities with so many places of this Realme receiving religion and these other disputing for it may bee counted to be some part of the clergie of the Realme And so it was not received without consent of the Clergie But these were not of the Parliament What then But as Ioash Josaphat Ezechias and Iosias did not make a new Religion but restored that which was defaced and had long lyen buried so our Parliament did not set forth a new religion but restore that which was godly begun before the good K. Edward confirmed by the Parliament and Clergie then c. But nothing can bee concluded as a law by Parliament say they without consent of the Clergie there present But this having not their consent cannot be counted a law as they think I had rather saith M. Pilkington leave this to be answered by the Lawyers than otherwise Yet that the world may see that something may be said in it we grant him not this to be true that no law at all can be made without consent of Bishops Look your old statutes of Parliament when Bishops were highest afore Edward the third and ye shall read that they passed by consent of the Lords temporall and commons without any mention of the Lords spirituall which statutes many of them stand in strength at this day Then it may well be gathered that the consent of the Clergie was not alwayes so necessarie as they thinke it The Lawyers Judges and Justicers put in practice and execute these lawes therefore their doings may be a sufficient reason to lead the unlearned what opinion they have of this statutes For Religion except Justice Rastall first executing that and afterward running away may condemne the rest which I trust he may not I thinke they would not execute them except they had the strength and nature of lawes If they doe contrary to their knowledge and opinion they cannot be able to answer their doings but I think no wise men are of this opinion Only these corner creepers that dare not shew their face and would deceive the people go about to deface all good and godly order that displeases them In the dayes of K. Edward they had the like fond opinion that the king could not make lawes in his minoritie untill he came unto full age and to make the people to disobey their Prince Hitherto M. Pilkington L. Bishop of Durisme with whom the most worthy and learned M. Jewell late Bishop of M. Iewel B. of Salisburie Salisburie agreeth in every point The wise and learned faith hee could have told you that in the Parliaments of England matters have evermore used to passe not of necessitie by the speciall consent of the Archbishops and Bishops as if without them no statute might lawfully be enacted but only by the more part of voyces yea although the Archbishops and Bishops were never so earnestly bent against it And statutes so passing in Parliaments onely by the voyces of the Lords temporall without the consent and agreement of the Lords spirituall have neverthelesse beene alwayes confirmed and ratified by the Royall assent of the Prince and have beene enacted and published under the names of the Lords spirituall and temporall Reade saith hee the statutes of King Edward the first there shall ye find that in a Parliament holden at S. Edmundsbury the Archb. and Bishops were quite shut forth and yet the Parliament held on and good and profitable lawes were there enacted the departing or absence or malice of the Bishops spirituall notwithstanding In the Records thereof it is written thus Habito Rex cum suis Baronibus Parliamento Clero excluso statutum est The King keeping a Parliament with his Barons the Clergie that is to say the Archbishops and Bishops being shut forth it was enacted c. In provisione de matrona in the time of K. Edward the third whereas matter was moved of bastardie touching the legitimation of bastards borne before mariage the statute passed wholly with the Lords temporall whether the Lords spirituall would or no. and that contrary to the expresse decrees and canons of the Church of Rome And thus much the most reverend and godly Father M. Iewell Bishop of Salisbury Wherefore to conlude this point against the Admonitors position I dispute thus All those persons who by any necessitie are none of the three estates aâ—d by whose authorities the statutes of England to this day have not stood to leave out the same persons may happily seem a matter of lesse weight than all men do judge it But the Archbishops and Bishops are such persons as by nâ—cessitie are none of the three estates and by whose consents the statutes of England to this day have not stood Therefore to leave out the Archbishops and Bishops may happily seem a matter of lesse weight than all men doe judge it If our Evangelicall Bishops be of that opinion of which the Popish Bishops were viz. that the house of Parliament is an unfit and an unmeet place to have the holy cause of the religion of God debated and concluded upon and that the Laitie without the clergie ought not to conclude any thing in Religion and that in respect hereof their presences their voices and their assents are necessary in the â—arliament If our Evangelicall Prelates I say make this objection then besides that hereby they unseemely unmannerly and unchristianly accuse the whole land of ignorance and blindnesse in religion supposing neither King nor Nobles nor Commons to be able to discern betweene night and day besides this I say so shamefull an abuse of a whole Christian nation I would pray them to remember what the most reverend Fathers Master Pilkington and Master Iewell have answered to such cavillous slanders For what else intended they by many examples and proofes brought for the Parliaments of England consisting of the King the Nobles and the Commons to be lawfull Parliaments and to have right to establish religion but to justifie against Popish scoffers that religion might be conceived and established in Parliament notwithstanding the absence or exclusion of the Clergie Besides since our
bishops and societie against the right and freedome of the law of God against the principles of humane fellowships against that which was in the begining and against that which the Apostles left in the Churches by colour of lawes brought into the Church by the cursings and fightings of the late Romane Bishops they would not henceforth barre and seclude the Kings Christian and faithfull people from giving their consents unto their pastours Yea and we further beseech their Lordships that are schollers unto the Apostles and as servants unto the old way of reason of nature of the law of God of the equitie of Christ and of humane societie they would hereafter imbrace that way which was from the beginning which is the old way and the best way and not any longer persist in a cursed and quarrelling way which is the new way and the worst way But if the Lords spirituall of their own accord shal not readily vouclsafe to yeeld unto us this our right at our intreatie then for my part I will briefly shew mine opinion what were expedient for the A supplieation to the king by the Lords and commons for the restitution of their right in the choice of their pastors Lords and commons in open parliament dutifully to pray and to supplicate at the Kings Majesties hand Namely At the humble petitions and supplications of all his Lords temporall and commons in Parliament assembled his majestie would bee well pleased to give his Royall assent to an act to be intituled An act for the restitution of the ancient right and freedome which the people of God in the old Churches had and which the people of England ought to have in to or about the election of their Pastours and abolishing all papal power repugnant to the same For if as it is plainly confessed the people of all Churches have right and freedome by the law of God by the equitie of Christ by the grounds of reason and nature by the principles of humane fellowships and by that which was from the beginning to elect their pastours and if also the same right and freedome being left to the old Churches and especially to the Church at Ierusalem by the Apostles have beene taken away by the cursings and fightings of the late Bishops of Rome then cannot the people without violation of those lawes rules and grounds by any Episcopall power be any more excluded from their said right and freedome than could or might the ancient jurisdiction of the Crowne of England have beene still usurped by the pope from the Kings of England ADMONITION But alas the common people of England thorough affection and want of right judgement are more easily wrought by ambitious persons to give their consâ—nt to unworthy men as may appeare in all those officâ—s of gaine or dignitie that at this day remaine in the choise of the multitude ASSERTION The Admonitor in one place of his admonition telleth us that he must not put all that he thinketh in writing and yet he writeth in this place that thing which might far better have been utterly unthought than once written for could he thinke to win the common people of England to a continuall good liking of high and stately prelacie by upbraiding and charging them to their faces in a book dedicated unto them with affection and wanting of right judgement Was this the way to procure grace favour and benevolence at their hands And albeit this slander deserved rather to have beene censured by the Commons in Parliament than by confutation to have beene answered yet for the better clearing of the right judgement of the common people giving their consents to most worthy men in all offices of gaine or dignitie remaining in their hands I thinke it necessarie to shew the indignitie of this contumelie There be I confesse in London Yorke Lincoln Bristow Exceter Norwich Coventry and other principall Cities and townes corporate Majors Sheriffes Stewards Recorders Bailiffes Chamberlains Bridge-masters Clerkes Swordbearers Knights Burgesses and such like offices some of dignitie some of gaine but that the officers of these or any other places whether of dignitie or gaine be chosen by the multitude of those places is utterly untrue for onely according to their ancient customes priviledges and Charters by the chief Citizens Townsmen and Borough-masters are those officers chosen The number also of which Electors in all places is not alike In London the Aldermen choose the Lord Major In other Cities and Townes sometimes eight and forty sometimes fourteene sometimes twelve sometimes only such as have borne office as Majors Sheriffes and Bailiffs in the same places nominate and elect their new Major Sheriffs and Bailiffes But that the Aldermen principall Towns-men Borough-masters and men having born chief offices in those cities towns and boroughs have easily been wrought by ambitious persons to give their consents unto unworthy men though it have pleased the Ll. Bb. with seene and allowed to have spred and published this saying yet that the same saying is wholly unworthy of any credit to bee given unto it or to bee regarded of any wise and indifferent man let the sober and peaceable elections made of the worthies of the land hereafter mentioned be witnesses The officers in Cities and townes corporate chosen with out contention and ambitious working of unworthy men And to leave to speake of the election of the Lord Major of the Citie of London Sheriffs Aldermen Wardens of companies Chamberlains bridge-masters and other annuall officers of honour and dignitie let us consider whether the Citizens of London have beene wrought by ambitious persons to choose M. Wilbraham M. Onslie M. Bromley to be their Recorders â—ll three afterward the Queenes solicitors and M. Bromly Lord Chancellor of England and let us consider whether the same Citizens as men of affection and want of right judgement did elect to be Recorders of the same Citie M. Serjeant Fleetwood Master Serjeant Flemming Master Serjeant Drue and how Master Crooke a man wise learned and religious and a Counseller and justicer within the principâ—litie of Wales The Recorder of the towne of Bedford is the right honourable the Lord S. Iohns of Bletsoe The Recorder of Bristoll was a long time Master Poppam now Lord chief Justice of England The Recorder of Northampton before he came to be Judge in the Kings bench was Master Serjeant Yelverton a favouter of the truth and an upright Justicer The Recorder of Warnick was Master Serjeant Puckering afterward Lord keeper of the great seale And of the same towne the Recorder now is a worthy Knight descended from a noble house Sir Foulke Grevile The Recorder of Coventrie is Sir Iohn Harrington Knight a man zealous for the true feare of God The Recorder of Chichester was M. Serjeant Lewkner now chiefe Justice in the principalitâ—e of Wales The Recorder of Norwich was Master Cooke the Kings Atturney generall And who soever shall enquire after the names and after the manner of election
that it is an errour by their leave in the Church of Saxony not to have Arch. and Bb. in name if so be they hold it lawfull to have Archb. and Bishops in office For what should a necessary officer doe without a convenient name And touching the Church of Tigure it is not materiall what the same Church doth thinke not tolerable or doth more mislike but what she ought not to mislike or what it ought not to think tolerable And then what a poore proofe is there here made trow we for the confirmation of the corruptions in the Church of England by producing of two witnesses two errours in the Church of Tygure For not to like a Senate of Elders and more to mislike excommunication is more and more to slide out of the right way And sithence we have the whole Christian Kingdome of Scotland the most famous and renowned Church of Geneva and sundry Churches by his confession in other places to be lights unto us and to agree with us in a government not much unlike to that which we desire wee have not onely great cause to rejoyce in this our desires but also to be much comforted and encouraged by these examples by all holy meanes to labour the full accomplishment thereof For by this testimony and by these instances given and produced by himselfe the Admonitor hath quite and cleane weakened and disabled his owne generall position opinion and thoughts of the unnecessaries and inconvenientnesse of having the Apostolicall and Primitive government in the time of Peace under a Christian Magistrate For hath not the free Kingdome of Scotland the free Citie of Geneva and other Soveraigne and free Princes Potentates and powers not being under Tyrants and persecution received the same as being the best the fittest the convenientest and most necessary government yea even in the time of peace and under their Christian Magistracy for the state of their Countrye and disposition of their people And as touching rites and ceremonies we affirme not that every rite ceremony or circumstance to be used in the externall execution of Church governement is precisely set downe in the holy Scriptures but touching the substance of government thus we say and thus we hold viz. that the Officers and Governours appointed by our Saviour Christ to be over the Churches in every Countrey observing the generall rules of decency comelinesse and edification have liberty with the consent of their Christian King or other supreame Magistrate to choose what rites and ceremonies they in wisdome and godlinesse shall thinke most convenient And therefore we grant that the officers of Christ in the use and dispensation of their functions are no more exactly tyed by any direct commandement in the holy Scriptures to use at all times and in all places one only manner of rites and ceremonies than were the Priests of the Law to use all one manner of knives to kill their sacrifices or the siâ—gers to sing all songs after one manner of tune or upon one kind of instrument or then are Kings and Princes in all Countries commanded to use all kind of circumstances in the outward execution of civill justice in their Common-Weales As then as it was lawfull for the Priests to have knives and trumpets of diverse fashions and for the Levites to have their Musicall instruments of diverse formes Nay as sundry Justices of Peace in sundry Shires of the Kingdome are not bound to keep their quarter Sessions all in one day to begin and to breake their Sessions at one instant to stand to sit and to walke whensoever they speake to weare all one fashion hats caps cloakes or gownes and such like so likewise is it with the Bishops Pastors and Elders of the Church In the ministration of Baptisme there is no direct commandement that the vessell to hold the water for the Childes Baptisme should bee of stone of pewter of brasse or of silver whether the Minister should descend to the lower end or the child ascend to the upper end of the Church Whether the child should have a great handfull or a little sponefull of water powred upon his head In the celebration of the Lords Supper it is directly commanded that the people shall stand fit or passe whether it should be celebrated every first or second Sabboth of the moneth whether in the morning at noone or at night In the ordination of Ministers there is no just proofe to be made that any certaine number of Ministers are to lay on their hands that the day of ordination should bee alwayes one that the Minister should bee of such an age or that the prayers should be of this or that length and forme of words And therefore touching these and such like things of indifferency wee agree with the Admonitor and Reverend Bishop that one ferme of externall orders rites and ceremonies is not of necessity to bee in every Church because there is no such order witnessed by the holy Scriptures to be of necessity But touching the joynt and severall functions of Bishops Pastours and Elders that they or any of them should in any age or state of the Church of Christ bee wanting or that such offices as by warrant of the Scripture are coupled together should bee appointed to execute any functions in the Church then such persons onely as for their functions have warant from the holy Scriptures wee cannot in any sort thereunto agree And why forsooth because all both offices and Officers in the Church must only and alonely bee derived from our Saviour Christ as from the only fountaine and bestower of all officers and offices in the House of God And therefore albeit wee should grant as the Admonitor hath said that the outward order used in the Primitive Church touching rites and Ceremonies by Bishops Pastors and Elders is neither necessary nor so convenient as it may be otherwise in the time of peace and under a Christian Magistrate yet we may not hereupon imply as his negative implyeth viz. that Bishops Pastors and Elders or any of them are neither necessary nor so convenient officers or governours as other officers of mans invention might be For which our opinion by the help of God we shall assay as before hath beene mentioned in an other place to lay downe out of the Word of God some just proofes according to the Admonitors request that there ought to be in all ages and states of the Church this outward order and forme of government viz. that Bishops Pastors and Elders ought evermore to be spirituall governours and that evermore they and none other ought to use that essentiall kinde of spirituall government and none other which was practised by the Bishops Pastors and Elders in the Apostolicall and Primitive Church Alwayes leaving the outward rites and ceremonies of their spirituall kinde of governement to bee indifferent as erst hath beene said FINIS Speeches used in the Parliament by Sir Francis Knoles and written to my LORD Treasurer Sir William
distinction of the seaventie Disciples from the rest And lastly against the cursing and fighting of the late Bishops of Rome till excluding both 359. Prince and people from yeelding his consent or making their request they had reduced the election wholly to the clergie hee telleth them by 339. their leave it was not so from the beginning From all which sayings of Master Bilson I conclude thus Whatsoever is right lawfull and free by the law of God whatsoever standeth upon the grounds of reason and nature whatsoever is derived from christian equitie and societie whatsoever is from the beginning and was left by the Apostles to the church at Ierusalem â—he same ought still to remain and must be kept inviolable in the church But the peoples interest to choose their Pastor is right is lawfull is free by the law of God standeth upon the grounds of reason and nature is derived from Christian equitie and societie is from the beginning and was left by the Apostles to the Church at Ierusalem Therefore the pe oples interest to choose their Pastour ought still to remaine and must be kept inviolable in the Church The whole proposition and every part thereof together with the assumpt and every part thereof is drawne from M. Bilsons owne confession Only to the proposition hee hath annexed certaine conditions or exceptions viz. Vnlesse by law custome or consent the people have restrained themselves or transferred or altered their right or else by their default or abuse the canons councels superiour powers princely or publike lawes have abridged altered or abrogated the same Now then it remaineth to know whether any consent default abuse custome canons councels superiour powers publike or princely edicts may be a good and sure warrant to abridge transferre or abrogate the peoples interest from having to do in the choice of their Pastours Our Saviour Christ when he came in the flesh he came to reforme the abuse crept in of the Law and to improve the corruptions of doctrine taught by the Scribes Pharisees and Doctors of the Law but hee tooke not away any least tittle of the Law ne abolish any jot of true and sound doctrine in the Church The Gospell teacheth us to order our judgements aright to bridle the unrulinesse of our affections and to moderate our inordinate appetities But yet doth not the same command us to empty our soules of all judgement to bury our affections in our bellies and to become as dead as stones without all Canons and Councels c may bridle disoâ—dered elections but not disannul elections of the people altogether sense or appetite In like sort we grant that custome consent Canons Councels Superiour powers publike and princely lawes may reâ—orme reprove restraine direct moderate and bridle the disordered unrulinesse and contentious brawlings of the people in and about their elections yea and we grant further that they may alter abridge or enlarge the forme and manner of elections All this we grant but that Christian Kings or any superiour powers may take this right into their owne hands as hee saith from the people or that the people by any law custome consent canon or councell may transferre or abolite their right fâ—eedome and interest given and deduced unto them â—y these rules and by these grounds I doe not yet perceive any good ground oâ— reason for the same For in so doing how should the holy wisedome and providence of God who hath imprinted in our nature these rules and these grounds this equitie and this freedome be so holily regarded and so highly reverenced as it ought to be For hath he made us freemen and can we without contempt of this grace become bondmen And albeit in some cases that may be well said quod volenti non fit injuria and that quilibet potest recedere a suo jure yet the cases must be such as a mans willingnesse and reâ—dinesse to forgoe his right be not tyed to him with so strong a band as is the band of the grounds of reason and nature of the rules of Christian equitie and of the freedome of the law of God It is free I grant for a man to eate or not to eate to drinke or not to drinke but for a man not to eate at all or not to drinke at all and so with hunger and thurst to sterve himselfe is not free and in this case volenti fiâ— injuria Every man that hath a wife that hath sonnes and daughters that hath men-servants and maid servants as by the very instinct of nature and by the equity of the Law of Christ he hath freedome to provide for them so must he carefully use this his freedome And therefore hee may not wholly and altogether put â—rom himselfe and expose at hap hazard the provision education instruction dieting apparelling and lodging of his wife his sonnes his daughters and his servants unto strangers neither may husbands fathers nor masters give their consent to the making of any law or the bringing in of any custome whereby their freedomes should be restrained adnihiled or made void in this behalfe For by thus violating the rules and grounds and by thus treading as it were under foot the equitie of Christ and the freedome they have by the law of God should they not most profainely and impiously despite God and as it were overturne the whole order he hath set in nature And if the people may not cast off these rules and these grounds this equitie and this freedome in things appertaining to the frail bodily transitorie and earthly life how much lesse may they cast them off or set little by them in things appertaining to the salvation of their soules and to a durable spirituall everlasting and heavenly life But the peoples right to choose their Bishops did never depend Objection that the peoples right did never depend upon thâ— expresse commandement of God upon the expresse commandement of God neither can the people challenge by Gods law the right to choose their Bishops I meane saith he no such thing is expressed and contained in the Scriptures What then if it doe depend or bee contained under the generall grounds and rules of reason nature christian equitie christian societie principles of humane fellowships the law of God the practice of the Apostles and that which was from the beginning Is it not sufficient Though it be not expressed in these termes viz. That the people must choose or that the people have right to choose their bishops it is not expressed and contained in the Scriptures that every man must choose his owne wife or that every woman must choose her owne husband And yet by the doctrine expressed or contained in the Scriptures is it true that no man hath right either to choose an other mans wife or to choose an other womans husband And that every man hath right to choose his owne wife and everie woman right to choose her owne husband Againe it is not expressed
absolutely and as really is revested in the person of the Queene as is the said spirituall authoritie Therefore as all spirituall Officers for the execution of the said spirituall power must have their authoritie derived unto them from the person of the Queene under the great Seale so likewise must all temporall officers for the execution of their temporall offices have the like commission The consequence of which enthimeme followeth not though the antecedent be true For although as well all temporall as all the said spirituall authoritie improperly so called was really and absolutely in the person of the Queene yet hereupon it followeth not that by one and the selfe same meanes alone and namely by a commission under the great Seale all temporall and the said spirituall power in every part and branch thereof should be drawne alike from the Queenes person For there be divers and sundry meanes to derive temporall authority wheras there seemeth to be but one only means to derive the said spirituall authoritie and then marke the substance of the authors argument Some temporall Officers as Stewards of Leets Constables and sundry other Officers must not draw their temporall authoritie from the Queene by a Commission under the great Seale Therefore no spirituall Officers as Archbishops Bishops Archdâ—acons and sede vacante Deanes and Chapters must draw any of their spirituall authoritie from the Queen by a Commission c. Which argument drawne from a particular affirmative unto a generall negative what weaknesse it hath every young Logician can discerne And as for Stewards of Leets though they have no Commission Though all temporall officers draw not their power from the King by the great seale yet by one meanes or other withdraw it from the King under the great Seale yet for the execution of their Stewardships they have a Commission under the Seale of the Exchequer Constables Decennary or Tythingmen and Thirdboroughs have their authorities derived unto them from the Kings person by the very originall and institution of their offices Sheriffs of Countries Coroners Escheators and Uerderors have their offices and their authorities warranted unto them by the Kings writs out of the Chancerie But it was not the minde of the Law-makers saith the Author that the Ordinaries by a commission under the great Seale should draw their said spirituall power from the Queen What the mindes of the Law-makers were touching this point it mattereth little or nothing at all Neither is it to purpose whether a commission under the great seale be necessarily required or not required by vertue of that statute 1 Eliz. c. 1. to warrant the said spirituall power unto Ordinaries Only it sufficeth that the Queen having all power improperly called spiritual invested in her Royall person and being really and actually seised of all the said supreme spirituall authoritie could not have any part of the same spirituall power drawne from her but by some one lawfull and ordinarie meanes or other For if this rule be true in every common person quod meum est sine mea voluntate à me auferri non potest how much more doth the same rule hold in the Royall prerogatives rights priviledges dignities and supremities of a King wherfore to say that all supreme and ordinarie power improperly called spirituall was really and actually inherent in the Royall person of the Queen and to say also that some of the same inferiour and ordinarie power not derived from the Queen was neverthelesse in the persons of inferiour ordinaries is as much to say that some branches of a tree may receive nourishment from elsewhere than from the root that some members of the bodie are not guided by the head and that some streames flow not from their fountaines And now to conclude this part against the Canon Law and their Offices and functions thereof I dispute thus The forraign and papall canon law with all the accessories dependances offices and functions thereof is utterly abolished out of the Realme Therefore the same law is no part of the lawes of the Realm and therefore also it is evident that there will not follow any alteration of the Lawes of the Realme by the taking of it away Which Canon Law also with other lawes and functions how easily the same without any inconveniences may bee supplied shall God willing be presently made apparant if first we shall answer to that challenge which the state of Prelacie may seeme to make for the continuance of their Lordly primacie out of the words of the great Challenge for Lordly primacy out of the great Charter answered Charter Concerning which challenge namely that by the great Charter Lordly Archiepiscopall and Episcopall primacie or jurisdiction belonging to the state of Prelacie is belonging unto them I demand unto what Church this great Charter was granted And whether it were not granted unto the Church of God in England The words of the Charter are these Concessimus Deo hâ—c praesenti Mag. Charta c. 1. Charta nostra confirmavimus pro nobis haeredibus nostris in perpetuum quod Ecclesia Anglicana libera sit habeat omnia jura sua integra libertates suas illaesas We have granted unto God and by this our present writing have confirmed for us and for our heires for ever that the Church of England be free and that she have all her rights and liberties whole and unhurt Now by this Charter if the same bee construed aright there is provision made first that such honour and worship be yeelded by the King and his subjects his and their successors and posteritie unto God as truly and indeed belongeth unto him Secondly that not only such rights and liberties as the King and his progenitors but also that such as God had endowed the Church of England with should inviolably be preserved And in very deed to speake truly and properly such rights and liberties only are to be called the rights and liberties of the Church of England which God himselfe hath given by his Law unto his universall Church and not which the Kings of England by their Charter have bequeathed to the particular Church of England When therefore question is made that by the great Charter the Kings of England are bound to maintaine the rights and liberties of the Church of England wee are to enquire and search what rights and liberties God in his holy word hath granted unto his universall Church and so by consequence unto the Church of England one part of the Catholike Church And this questionlesse was the cause that moved the victorious Prince Henry the eight so effectually and powerfully to bend himselfe against the Popes supremacie usurped that time over the Church of England For saith the King we will with hazard of our life and losse of our Crowne uphold and defend in our Realmes whatsoever wee shall know to be the will of God The Church of God then in England not being free nay having her rights and liberties
according to the great Charter whole and unhurt but being in bondage and servitude to the Sea of Rome contrary to the Law of God the King judged it to stand highly with his honour and with his oath according to the measure of knowledge which then was given unto him to reforme redresse and amend the abuses of the same Sea If then it might please our gracious Soveraigne Lord King Iames that now is treading in the Godly steps of his renowned great Vncle to vouchsafe an abolishment of all lordly primacie executed by Archiepiscopall and Episcopall authoritie over the Ministers of Christ His Highnesse in so doing could no more rightly bee charged with the violation of the great Charter than might King Henry the eight with the banishment of the Popes supremacie or than our late Soveraigne Ladie the Queene could be justly burthened with the breach of her oath by the establishment of the Gospell Nay if the Kings of England by reason of their oath had beene so straightly tyed to the words of the great Charter that they might not in any sort have disannulled any supposed rights and liberties of the Church then used and confirmed by the great Charter unto the Church that then was supposed to be the Church of God in England then belike King Henry the eighth might be attainted to have gone against the great Charter and against his oath when by the overthrow of Abbies and Monasteries he tooke away the rights and liberties of the Abbots and Priors For by expresse words of the great Charter Abbots and Priors had as ample and as large a Patent for their rights and liberties as our Archbb. and Bishops can at this day challenge for their primacies If then the rights and liberties of the one as being against the law of God be duly and lawfully taken away notwithstanding any matter clause or sentence contained in the great Charter the other have but little reason by colour of the great Charter to stand upon their pantofles and to contend for their painted sheathes For this is a rule and maxime in all good lawes that in omni juramento semper excipitur authoritas majoris unlesse then they bee able to justifie by the holy Scriptures that such rights and liberties as they pretend for their spirituall primacie over the Ministers of Christ to be granted unto them by the great Chaâ—ter bee in deed and truth likewise confirmed unto them by the holy Law of God I suppose the Kings Highnesse as a successor to K. Henry the third and as a most just inheritour to thâ— Crown of England by the words of the great Charter and by his oath if once the same wer taken to be bound utterly to abolish all Lordly primacie as hitherto upheld and defended partly by ignorance and partly by an unreasonable and evill custome ADMONITION The use and studâ—e of the Civill Law will be utterly overthrown for the Civilians in this Realme live not by the use of the Civill law but by the Offices of the Canon Law and such things as are within the compasse thereof And if you take those offices and functions away and those matters wherein they deale in the Canon Law you must needs take away the hope of reward and by that meanes their whole studie ASSERTION This collection dependeth upon his former Reason and is borrowed to prove a necessarie continuance of Canon Law and concludeth in effect thus The taking away of the reward and maintainance of Civilians will be the overthrow of the use and studie of the civill law But the taking away of the Canon Law the offices and functions thereof and such things as are within the compasse of the same will bee the taking away of the reward and maintainance of Civilians Therefore the taking away of the Canon Law will be the overthrow of the use and studie of the Civill Law But we deny the assumption and affirme that Civilians might have The maintenance of Civilians dependeth not upon the functions of the Canon law farre better reward and maintenance than now they have if the offices and functions of the Canon Law and such things as are contained within the same were simply and absolutely taken away And further we say if there were none other use nor end of the studie of the Civill Law than hope of reward and maintenance by some office and function of the Canon Law that then Civilians should in vaine seeke for knowledge in the Civill Law because without the knowledge thereof and by the onely knowledge of such things as are within the Compasse of the Canon Law they might reape that reward and maintainance Nay sithence by experience we have known that some who never unclasped the institutions of Iustinian out of the same to learne the definition of Civill Justice have beene and yet are authorized to exercise the offices and functions of the Canon Law how should the studie of the civill law be furthered by these offices and functions when as without any knowledge of the civill law these offices and functions have beene and yet are daily undertaken and executed to the full And what man then if there were none other reward for Civilians would ten or twelve yeares together beat his braine and trouble his wits in the studie of the Civill Law when every silly Canonist might bee able and learned enough to sit in the Bishops throne and to be judge in his Consistorie Besides if the Admonitor speake sooth viz. that Civilians in this Realm live not by the use of the civill Law to what end then should he feare an overthrow of the studie thereof For if there be no use of it in this Realme for the maintenance of this life to what use then should men studie the same in this Realme As for the use of it among strangers and forraigne nations without the Realme the same as I suppose is no greater than such as 3. or 4. Civilians may be able well enough fully to deliver the law touching all matters of controversie that may grow to question during the whole space of a Kings raigne If no man lived in this Realme by the trade of brewing Beere but that all Brewers did live by the trade of Brewing Ale what should we need to feare the decay of â—eere-brewers or what use were there of them in like sort if men live only by the use offices and functions of the Canon Law and that men live not as he saith by the use of the Civill law within the Realme what folly were it to studie the one whereas without the knowledge thereof he might live by the other And therefore it seemeth that the Admonitor by his owne weapon as much as in him lay hath given the whole studie of the Civill Law a most desperate and deadly wound And to the end we may understand what reward and maintenance Civilians by the Offices and functions of the Canon do receive yearly for their service and attendance in
was common and did continue in the old Churches Besides this inconvenience saith he caused Princes and Bishops so much to intermeddle in this matter Frow whence it necessarily againe followeth that by the holy Scriptures and law of God Princes and Bishops did not entermeddle with that matter atal For had it been simply lawfull for them to have dealt in those causes by the word of God then aswell before schisme discord and dissention as afterward yea rather much more before than afterward For then by their owne right might Princes and Bishops have prevented Bishops nâ—eddle not with election of Pastors by the holy Scriptures all occasion of schism and contention and have so preserved the Church that no tumult or disorder should once have beene raised or begun therein Againe if by the law of God Princes and Bishops had medled in these matters and had not intermedled by humane device then lawfully by their authoritie alone might they have chosen Pastors Elders and Deacons in the old Churches which thing in this place by necessary inference he denieth For schisme saith he caused them to intermeddle So as by his confession they were but intermedlers and entercommoners by reason of schisme and not commoners and medlers by vertue of Gods word And yet now a dayes our reverend Bishops in this case are no more intercommoners with Princes and with the people they ate no more entermedlers as in old times they were but they have now so far incroached upon the prerogatives of the prince and privileges of the people that neither prince nor people have any commons in the election of Pastors Elders and Deacons with them at all Besides if schism and contention among the people Bishops â—n croach upon the â—ighâ— oâ— pâ—â—â—ce and people were the reason why Bishops first entermedled in the choice of Pastours we now having no schisme nor contention about the choice of Pastours by the people and so the cause of ceasing why should not the effect likewise cease But this effect is therefore still to bee continued because otherwise the cause would a new sprout out and spring up againe Nay rather inasmuch as for these many yeares we have had schism discord and dissention because the bishops wholly and altogether have medled in the choise of pastours and have thrust upon the people whatsoever pastours please not the people but pleased themselves and have not suffered the people to meddle no not so much as once to intermeddle in these matters in as much I say as these things be so it seemeth most expedient requisite and necessary for the appeasing and pacifying of this discord and the taking away of this schism to have the manner of election which was in the old Churches restored to the people and this wherein the bishops have intermedled without authoritie from the word to be abolished that so againe the cause of scbism and strife which is now among us ceasing the effect might likewise cease After I had ended this tract in this manner touching this point there came into mine hands a booke intituled The perpetuall government of Christs Church written by Thomas Bilson Warden of Winchester Colledge in the fifteenth chapter of which booke is handled this question viz. to whom the election of Bishops and Presbyters doth rightly belong and whetherby Gods law the people must elect their pastours or no. In which chapter also the matter of schism strife and contention is handled The finall scope and conclusion whereof is as the proposition importeth twofold First concerning Bishops then concerning Pastours The quarrell taken against Bishops doth not so much touch saith hee the office and functions of Bishops as it doth the Princes prerogative When you rather thinke the Prince may not name her Bishops without the consent and election of the people you impugne not us but directly call the Princes fact and her lawes in question As touching this point of the proposition because the people by any law or custome never challenged any right or interest in the choise of the Kings bishops wee have nothing The King only hath power without the people to nominate his Kingly Bb. to meddle or to make about the choise of any of the Kings Bishops Nay we confesse as his highnesse progenitors Kings of England have beene the Soveraigne Donours Founders Lords and Avowes of all the Bishopricks in England without aid of the people that so likewise it is a right and interest invested into his Imperiall crowne that he only his heires and successors without consent of the people ought to have the free nomination appointment collation investiture confirmation of all the Bishops from time to time to be planted in any of those Bishoprickes yea and wee say further that the King alone hath not power onely to nominate collate and confirm but also to translate yea and if it please him to depose all his Kingly Bishops without any consent of his people at all For say we ejus est destruere cujus est construere ejus est tollere cujus est condere Neither will we dislike but rather content our selves that our late Queens Bishops if they shall finde favour in the Kings eyes should be also the Kings Bishops conditionally they submit themselves to the lawes and prerogatives of the Kings Crowne content themselves with the only name of Kingly and Princely Bishops and not challenge any more unto themselves the sole titles of Godly and Christian Bishops as though without injurie to the law of â—od and Gospell of our Saviour Christ they could not bee dispossessed of their Lordly Bishopricks And therefore our most humble prayer to the King is that his Majestie would bee pleased that such his Kingly Bishops may not henceforth over crow and justle out Gods Bishops nor have any primacie over Gods Bishops And withall that the King himselfe would vouchsafe to hearken to the doctrine of such as are indeed Gods Bishops rather than to the Counsell of those who lately were the Queenes bishops As touching the second part viz. whether the people by Gods M. Bilson confirmeth the peoples election of their pastor p. 339. law must elect their Pastours or no Master Bilson by reasons and proofes brought for the first use of it rather confirmeth than impugneth the same For saith hee Well may the peoples interest stand upon the grounds of reason and nature and bee derived from the rules of Christian equitie and societie That each Church and people stand free by Gods law to admit maintaine or obey no maâ— as their Pastour without their liking unlesse by law custome or consent they have restrained themselves Then the people had as much right to choose their 360 Pastour as the Clergie that had more skill to judge that the Apostles left elections indifferent to the people and Clergie at Jerusalem That the Apostles in the Acts when they willed the Church at Jerusalem to choose the seven did not make any remembrance or