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A89918 Problemes necessary to be determined by all that have, or have not taken part on either side in the late unnaturall warre. For the making of their peace with God and disposing them to a hearty peace one with another. By reflecting upon what they have done, before they engage in a new more dangerous and doubtfull warre: dedicated to the Lord Major, aldermen and Common-Councel of the Honorable City of London. / By P.D. Nethersole, Francis, Sir, 1587-1659. 1648 (1648) Wing N497; Thomason E458_20; ESTC R203004 17,363 31

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whom a suite at Law or a warre is or by whom the one or the other is managed as whether they be Protestants or Papists religious or prophane civill or debauched make any thing to the justice of the warre or suit or ought to encline Jurors or Partakers to the one side or to the other 27. Whether the good or ill manner of managing a suite or a warre ought to be of any more weight with Jurors or Partakers seeing a good Cause may be ill managed and an ill well And whether a Suite or a Warre undertaken and commenced upon just grounds can turne to be unjust by any subsequent miscarriages in the one or in the other except the point in issue happen to be altered through the cleare discovery of some concealed further designe in one or other of the parties or some other intervening accident as it frequently falleth out in long-breathed suites at Law and came to passe in the Bohemian warre by the death of the Emperour Matthias which made a very considerable difference in the Case from that it was when the troubles began in his life time 28. Whether the accidental present interest or the future advantages or disadvantages of what kinde soever which may accrew either to the parties themselves or to the partakers or to any third person or to the publique by the respective issue of a warre or suite and whether the suspected or knowne designes or intentions either of the parties or of their partakers to make ill use of the victory ought to be of any more force with Jurors or Partakers or whether they ought to be blinde to them also and to all other like circumstances and respects 29. Whether the consideration of the accidental and consequential interest of God himselfe in the issue of a matter in debate between two parties that are in warre ought to engage souldiers or contributers to take part with the one or with the other more then Jurors in a like case the reason to the contrary being the same in both to wit because God hath no need of mans sinne in either to maintaine his Cause or glory and it being a manifest sinne in a Juror to have any respect thereunto how considerable soever such interest of God may be as will be cleare to the meanest capacity by putting the case between an Atheisticall Church-Papist and a godly zealous Protestant or Puritane touching the perpetual advowson of a great Rectorie and no lesse cleare in the case of a warre between two Princes semblably qualified touching their title to a Kingdome divided in the profession of Religion 30. Whether a meerly civil cause of cleare justice in which true Religion is much interessed though but by consequent may not justly be called Gods cause and ought not to be undertaken more heartily and maintained more vigorously by all good Christians in that respect especially when the interest of religion is the onely or maine motive to the opposition made by the adverse party which was the case of the great Henry the fourth of France who in that regard was commonly prayed for as fighting the Lords battels and is the case of the Prince Elector Palatine and of Prince Rupert his brother who in all appearance might ere this have recovered their ancient estates and dignities to which by the lawes of the Empire their title is unquestionable by the same means that the said King did his Crowne if God by his grace had not made his example too fearfull to them 31. Whether the entitling of God to any purely civil and clearly unjust cause in respect of the interest of his true Religion involved by consequent only in the successe thereof be not a sinne against the third Commandement and of a high nature and whether any damage which may happen to accrew to Gods true Religion by occasion of the issue of such a Warre will not be put to his account that was in the wrong in the point of the justice of the Warre though he were in the right in the point of the truth of his religion and whether that will not be a heavie aggravation of his sinne 32. Whether the parties and others interessed in a purely Civil Cause of dubious justice wherin Religion is no otherwise concerned then as abovesaid do well to engage themselves and to indeavour to ingage others therein under the title or colour of religion or whether it be not a great sin to do this wittingly and wilfully especially in them who being Ambassadours of a King that hath publiquely declared his kingdom not to be of this world and that accordingly refused to make himselfe a Judge of Civil inheritances between brethren will hardly be able to shew that they have any Commission from him to entangle themselves and much lesse to interesse his name in such affairs of this world and it being well knowne that in the old Law it was death for a Prophet to presume to speak a word in his name that he had not commanded Deut. 18.20 33. Whether it be lawfull for Christian subjects to take up Arms against their Soveraign for reformation of the Religion by law established or in defence of their Religion not established by law or of their lives or livelyhoods in danger by due execution of Law our blessed Saviour having expressely forbiden them to save their lives by such meanes with the addition of a most peremptory threatning if they do and of most gracious promises if they patiently lose their lives or livelyhoods for his sake And whether the truth or falsehood of their Religion or the power or number of them that attempt any of the things aforesaid doth make any difference in the case though they be the Major part of the true or of the representative Body of a kindome Or whether all these be not Anti-Christian proceedings directly contrary to the doctrine and practice of Christ and of all his holy Apostles and of the whole Church of God for many ages and particularly of the Church of England since the Reformation 34. Whether the defence of the Religion by law established be not more properly a defence of the law then of the Religion And whether it be not lawfull for Subjects of one Religion or profession to take up armes in defence of their lives or livelyhood against the violence and force of their fellow-subjects of a contrary Religion or profession though established by Law and though they pretend to have or have authority from their Soveraigne to massacre or plunder them for that Cause unlesse their said fellow-subjects first bring or endeavour to bring them to a due Legal triall And whether the truth or falsehood of their Religion or the number of the thus oppressed doth make any such difference in the case in point of justice that one man of what Religion soever hath not as much right to defend himselfe against violence as another or as a multitude or that a multitude of what Religion or number soever