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anâ—oâ—uâ—n_fw-la lumine_fw-la â—emporali_fw-la privaâ—â—_n etc._n etc._n but_o with_o what_o fâ—â—ds_v of_o tear_n shall_v i_o proosecute_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d r_v his_o crucltâ—_n woen_n he_o send_v best_o ops_fw-la priest_n deacous_a and_o other_o member_n of_o the_o church_n â—â—to_fw-mi encashment_n in_o the_o wilaernesse_n among_o who_o be_v â—â—my_n trouble_v with_o the_o gout_n other_o by_o age_n â—â—â—nd_n and_o dâ—priveâ—_n of_o sight_n etc._n etc._n behold_v huâ—â—â—cus_n his_o cruâ—â—ty_n now_o let_v we_o behold_v the_o zeal_n of_o the_o catholic_n of_o these_o country_n for_o their_o bishop_n and_o priest_n they_o complantn_v pâ—â—â—ufâ—ly_o that_o they_o be_v deprine_v of_o their_o pastor_n saâ—ing_v or_o rather_o cry_v vad._n victor_n lib._n 2._o peâ—ses_n vad._n quibus_fw-la nos_fw-la miseros_fw-la relinquiâ—ts_n dum_fw-la pergite_n ad_fw-la corona_n qui_fw-fr â—os_v baptizatuâ—â—_n sunt_fw-la parunlos_fw-la fonâ—â—bus_fw-la aqua_fw-la perernis_fw-la qui_fw-fr nobis_fw-la paenâ—tentiae_fw-la munus_fw-la collaturi_fw-la sunt_fw-la et_fw-la reconciliationis_fw-la induigentâ—s_fw-la obstrictos_fw-la peccatorum_fw-la vinculis_fw-la solâ—tuâ—i_fw-la quiâ—_n vobis_fw-la dictum_fw-la est_fw-la quaecunque_fw-la solueritis_fw-la super_fw-la terram_fw-la erunt_fw-la solâ—â—a_fw-la et_fw-la on_o cales_fw-la qui_fw-la nos_fw-la solenntbus_fw-la or_o ationâ—bus_fw-la sepulturi_fw-la sunt_fw-la mortentes_fw-la quibus_fw-la diâ—â—ni_fw-la
as_o i_o relate_v in_o my_o 5._o question_v regulars_n be_v more_o sit_v for_o that_o employment_n than_o secular_o what_o he_o say_v that_o such_o religious_a be_v not_o by_o the_o divine_a law_n ordain_v to_o preach_v as_o bishop_n and_o priest_n be_v have_v be_v answer_v in_o the_o same_o 5._o question_v where_o i_o show_v that_o neither_o secular_a nor_o regular_a priest_n camn_v preach_v without_o authority_n and_o that_o religious_a be_v as_o capable_a of_o such_o authority_n and_o office_n as_o secular_o so_o as_o if_o he_o compare_v a_o right_n secular_a with_o religious_a he_o will_v in_o this_o find_v no_o difference_n and_o i_o may_v add_v that_o regular_a priest_n of_o such_o order_n as_o m._n doctor_n mention_v in_o the_o objection_n have_v a_o particular_a kind_n of_o right_n or_o as_o i_o may_v say_v dispositionem_fw-la proximam_fw-la to_o such_o function_n which_o secular_a priest_n precise_o by_o be_v priest_n have_v not_o for_o although_o regular_a priest_n of_o 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s._n hierom_n monach._n s._n hieron_n ep._n ad_fw-la rust_n monach._n sic_fw-la vive_fw-fr in_fw-la mâ—nasterio_n ut_fw-la clericus_fw-la esse_fw-la merearis_fw-la so_o live_v in_o thy_o mâ—â—aâ—â—eâ—y_n that_o thou_o may_v deserve_v to_o be_v a_o clerk_n to_o prove_v that_o when_o a_o relâ—â—â—â—us_a man_n be_v make_v a_o pastor_n he_o be_v prefer_v to_o a_o high_a calling_n and_o to_o a_o vocation_n of_o great_a perfection_n but_o by_o m._n doctor_n good_a leave_n i_o find_v a_o man_n who_o i_o must_v prefer_v before_o he_o bring_v a_o far_o different_a explication_n of_o s._n hieroms_n word_n 4._o s._n tho._n 2.2_o q._n 184._o a._n 8._o ad_fw-la 4._o for_o s._n thomas_n interpret_v those_o word_n as_o exhort_v lie_v religious_a man_n so_o to_o live_v as_o they_o may_v deserve_v to_o be_v make_v clerk_n and_o no_o doubt_n but_o religious_a man_n be_v promote_v to_o order_n be_v in_o a_o more_o perfect_a call_n then_o religious_a man_n who_o have_v no_o such_o order_n and_o this_o 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inference_n out_o of_o s._n cyprian_n word_n so_o often_o inculcate_v that_o the_o church_n be_v sacerdoti_fw-la plebs_fw-la adunata_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o a_o explication_n he_o give_v of_o those_o other_o word_n of_o the_o same_o father_n thou_o must_v know_v that_o the_o bishop_n be_v in_o the_o church_n and_o the_o church_n in_o the_o bishop_n be_v plain_o confute_v as_o nothing_o consonant_a to_o s._n cyprian_n intention_n 10_o this_o 13._o chapter_n the_o reader_n will_v find_v answer_v for_o as_o much_o as_o needs_o explication_n in_o my_o 3._o question_v 13._o chapt._n 13._o where_o all_o the_o example_n he_o draw_v from_o the_o african_a church_n be_v at_o large_a discuss_v to_o prove_v that_o notwithstanding_o whatsoever_o persecution_n raise_v particular_o by_o occasion_n of_o bishop_n yet_o the_o church_n must_v of_o necessity_n have_v bishop_n n._n 5._o he_o write_v thus_o wherefore_o as_o we_o may_v gather_v out_o of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a history_n from_o the_o 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exact_a as_o one_o will_v have_v expect_v 11_o for_o the_o answer_n of_o his_o 14._o chapter_n 14._o chap._n 14._o the_o reader_n may_v be_v please_v to_o read_v what_o i_o have_v say_v quest_n 2.3.4_o num._n 3._o he_o say_v that_o england_n be_v long_o without_o a_o bishop_n because_o superior_n be_v inform_v that_o he_o will_v present_o be_v take_v and_o put_v to_o death_n if_o any_o reason_n be_v propose_v to_o superior_n concern_v the_o difficulty_n of_o have_v a_o bishop_n in_o england_n i_o suppose_v they_o be_v other_o reason_n than_o this_o mention_v by_o m._n doctor_n but_o this_o be_v a_o business_n which_o belong_v not_o to_o i_o nevertheless_o m._n doct._n in_o his_o next_o follow_v 15._o chapter_n seem_v to_o contradict_v what_o here_o he_o say_v and_o to_o make_v good_a this_o very_a reason_n which_o here_o he_o impugn_v for_o in_o that_o chapter_n n._n 6._o he_o tell_v we_o that_o king_n â—ames_v of_o famous_a memory_n after_o he_o know_v that_o the_o bishop_n be_v 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