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A85712 The Quaker's Jesus: or, The unswadling of that child James Nailor, which a wicked toleration hath midwiv'd into the world. Discovering the principles of the Quakers in general. In a narrative of the substance of his examination, and his disciples, as it was taken from their own mouthes, in their answer before the magistrates of the city of Bristol; also, of his examination in the painted chamber Westminster, and the management of it in Parliament, now published for the satisfaction of himself and some Christian friends. By William Grigge, (citizen of Bristol) who believes in that Jesus (and him alone for salvation) that was crucified at Jerusalem, above sixteen hundred years agoe. Grigge, William. 1658 (1658) Wing G2023; Thomason E942_2; ESTC R207579 61,372 85

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of danger may loose thy life and that by thy friend he may not know thee nay Christ himself will one day say for want of remembring this word take heed Depart from me I know you not To forget the word it may overthrow a Garison ruine an Army loose a Kingdom nay to forget this word may loose thy soul which is of more worth then all the Kingdoms of the World nay the world it self will thy Christ tell thee Friends my advice is still the same remember the Word take heed whom you hear And now to as many of my fellow Christians and Citizens as have forgot it the word to them is faces about and you know all Military termes when the word is faces about no hand mentioned it is to be understood to the right So the word now is to the right about unto thy keeping close to publick Ordinances again to thy old puritanical principles again to thy constant Family duties again to thy hearing and that only of those that are sent ordained Ministers again Although Seducers to make parties and carry on their designes who would set us in a flame again if they could quarrel at Ordination though Scripture be clear for it and as clear against usurpers and Seducers that run before they are bid to go And quarrel at laying on of hands saying it s a Ceremony which if so yet by their leave it s a Gospel Ceremony And at Presbytery yet that also hath an expresse text of Scripture which is a part of the everlasting Gospel Well dear Friends about to Infant baptism own that Ordinance in publick let 's walk our selves more worthy of it and answerable unto it blesse God for thy priviledge that he will admit thy Child thy Infant to be a member of his Church visible Oh be not so hard hearted as to deny that to thy Child which God doth offer thee thou being a Believer do not so easily part with thy priviledge and that which is thy Child's due Read godly Mr. Thomas his Answer to Mr. Speed p. 23.29 The Title of the Book is A Vindication of Scripture and Ministry Brethren the advice is again take heed how and what you hear And had you not need so to do I suppose that when you first heard some of your uncall'd Teachers their smooth Doctrine so pleased you that you would labour to justifie your practice in so doing though since many of you are of another mind and you little thought that they themselves would be rebaptized and turn rebaptizers and so bring in another Baptism when the Apostle saith there is but one And you lesse thought they would unchristen you and so as much as in them lyeth make you Heathens telling you that you are misbaptized but you see the nature of error And as for this ugly immodest action of dipping or rebaptizing for I dare not call it an Ordinance without sin it doth not only make null and overthrow the Ordinance as before but calls in question the judgement and practice of all those grave able and godly Divines who have in these * sixteen hundred years received thousands of Infants as Members into the visible Church by Baptism and are now Saints in the Church triumphant and yet now must be questioned and made void with a word to call it misbaptism and thus nullifie the Ordinance of Jesus Christ Infant baptism And Brethren I call this dipping or Rebaptizing an immodest action because I could tell you the name of a Gentleman of credit who by accident comming by the River at Stony-Wear where a Woman was to be rebaptized stayed to see the manner or rather immodesty of it and did in the action see her nakedness And upon Thursday the 18th of June 1657. When Mr. Ewin and Mr. Symson dipped two men and five Women the nakedness of one of the women in this action of dipping was seen above her knees For this there are many witnesses Is this an Ordinance It s an uncivil immodest action let us abhorre it and let us all take heed that we be not by * drawing words and fair speeches cheated of our Religion Well Friends let us about again and take that counsel from the Lord himself Jer. 6.16 Thus saith the Lord stand you in the wayes and see and ask for the old paths which is the good way and walk therein and you shall find rest for your souls Friends take heed and be not deceived by this Sect. For its the observation of many godly Divines that where this prevaileth God doth usually follow it with some sad Judgements The story of Munster hath sufficiently set them forth Oh! the Rapes the Poligamy the murders that were there committed which I thought to make some brief Relation of but I would avoid tediousness and to help you further to lamentation shall leave the Reader to the Story it self For though an Anabaptist in print tells you the Argument of Munster hath been so oft prest that its wore thred-bare he dares not say 't is not true yet let me tell you that it s to be feared had these men power they would make this thred-bare Argument cotton again And they begin to talk already A Commission-Officer in Ireland and that no mean one neither but now out of Commission told a person of quality of this City he discoursing with him about their dipping or rebaptizing there in that Nation that though for a while they did forbear yet if we did not come about to them to be rebaptized they should look upon us as they did upon the Rebels of Ireland Brethren you see what is spoken and one man may speak the sence of a great many and it s no hard matter to instance action towards it as well as words * but a few moneths since but I forbear And truly some are of opinion and that not a few that had this Generation power their quarter and termes might be as bad if not worse as what Nahash offer'd the men of Jabesh Gilead which was to thrust out all their right eyes And now truly I think if there be any such necessity of dipping it may be to cool the heat of those who are exercised with such an immodest action I judge not how chast their thoughts are at such a time but leave it to him that knowes them but I know they are but men But Brethren that we may be established in this blessed truth and Gospel-Ordinance of Infant Baptism let us read and consider that unanswerable Treatise of Godly Mr. Baxter about it and I also recommend Mr. Sydenham his Treatise of Infant Baptism and another Gospel-Ordinance in which they that fear the Lord have much communion with him to wit singing of Psalms The Book is of no great price I desire a serious reading of the 10 11 12 15 Chapters where this godly man though dead yet speaketh to the satisfaction I suppose of every sober Christian And