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chron._n 30._o 11._o 18._o 21._o else_o can_v not_o so_o many_o of_o israel_n as_o come_v to_o jerusalem_n have_v eat_v the_o passeover_n see_v no_o uncircumcised_a may_v eat_v thereof_o ergo_fw-la the_o second_o if_o it_o be_v object_v that_o the_o apostasy_n be_v not_o alike_o they_o let_v it_o be_v show_v that_o the_o apostasy_n under_o antichrist_n do_v make_v a_o nullity_n of_o baptism_n &_o not_o the_o apostasy_n of_o israel_n of_o circumcision_n for_o israel_n play_v the_o harlot_n so_o deep_o that_o the_o lord_n deny_v she_o to_o be_v his_o wife_n or_o himself_o to_o be_v her_o husband_n hose_n 2._o 2._o mr_n smyth_n and_o thus_o have_v show_v the_o vanity_n of_o your_o answer_n to_o my_o reason_n against_o â—swer_v â—swer_v paedobaptistrie_n let_v we_o come_v to_o your_o answer_n make_v to_o my_o 2._o position_n 2._o that_o antichristian_o convert_v etc._n etc._n your_o first_o argument_n be_v frame_v thus_o if_o the_o apostasy_n of_o israel_n etc._n etc._n i_o answer_v that_o 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â—hr_fw-ge 11._o 14_o â—_o chron._n â—â—_o â—ers_n 8._o &_o â—rse_o 9_o “_o jeroboam_fw-la drive_v away_o the_o true_a prophet_n &_o place_v priest_n after_o his_o own_o devise_n israel_n set_v up_o a_o other_o government_n and_o *_o refuse_v the_o government_n of_o the_o lord_n †_o have_v a_o false_a ministry_n and_o worship_n what_o more_o can_v be_v say_v of_o rome_n then_o be_v here_o say_v of_o apostate_n israel_n and_o what_o though_o the_o prophet_n abijah_n do_v not_o charge_n israel_n with_o a_o false_a constitution_n but_o with_o the_o other_o particular_n before_o mention_v yet_o that_o suffice_v to_o declare_v that_o they_o have_v break_v covenant_n with_o god_n which_o what_o be_v it_o else_o but_o to_o depart_v from_o their_o primitive_a constitution_n need_v a_o man_n to_o say_v any_o more_o to_o prove_v that_o a_o wise_a have_v violate_v the_o bond_n of_o marriage_n but_o that_o she_o have_v play_v the_o whore_n and_o follow_v other_o lover_n and_o so_o much_o have_v the_o prophet_n testify_v of_o israel_n 15_o â—_o chro._n 15_o azariah_n bear_v witness_n against_o israel_n thus_o †_o now_o for_o a_o long_a season_n israel_n have_v be_v without_o the_o true_a god_n &_o without_o priest_n to_o teach_v and_o without_o law_n and_o this_o be_v â—n_v the_o time_n of_o asa_n king_n of_o juda_n also_o eliah_n complain_v 10._o complain_v â—_o 〈◊〉_d 10._o that_o the_o child_n of_o israel_n have_v forsake_v the_o covenant_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o this_o be_v in_o the_o day_n of_o ahab_n now_o it_o can_v be_v that_o they_o that_o have_v forsake_v god_n covenant_n can_v be_v a_o true_a constitute_v church_n so_o continue_v &_o also_o which_o be_v without_o god_n and_o without_o his_o law_n etc._n etc._n câ—n_v you_o say_v more_o against_o the_o antichristian_o and_o they_o you_o deny_v to_o be_v a_o true_a church_n and_o yet_o you_o justify_v israel_n withal_o her_o abomination_n but_o let_v we_o consider_v further_a of_o the_o difference_n you_o make_v 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etc._n and_o therefore_o to_o be_v as_o pagan_n or_o gentile_n in_o the_o lord_n account_v and_o to_o justify_v apostate_n israel_n retain_v circumcision_n to_o be_v a_o true_a church_n for_o your_o plead_n against_o the_o adultery_n of_o rome_n i_o dislike_v not_o but_o by_o these_o your_o argument_n &_o manner_n of_o plead_v you_o shall_v never_o convince_v she_o or_o ever_o be_v able_a to_o justify_v that_o adulterous_a church_n of_o israel_n neither_o will_v this_o your_o reason_n stand_v good_a that_o circumcision_n in_o the_o israelite_n apostasy_n be_v true_a because_o it_o be_v perform_v upon_o carnal_a israelite_n or_o proselyte_n the_o 8._o day_n and_o that_o baptism_n in_o popery_n be_v false_a and_o in_o the_o lord_n account_v no_o better_o then_o pagan_a wash_n etc._n etc._n for_o as_o much_o may_v be_v say_v for_o baptism_n administer_v to_o the_o apostate_n church_n of_o antichrist_n as_o yoâ—_n can_v say_v for_o circumcision_n in_o the_o apostasy_n of_o israel_n and_o all_o that_o can_v be_v say_v be_v this_o that_o neither_o of_o they_o both_o be_v in_o deed_n capable_a in_o that_o stand_n for_o the_o sacrament_n belong_v to_o the_o member_n of_o a_o true_a church_n not_o to_o apostate_n but_o if_o to_o be_v circumcise_v the_o 8._o day_n prove_v that_o israel_n circumcision_n be_v true_a in_o her_o apostasy_n what_o let_v the_o circumcision_n of_o the_o edomite_n and_o ismaelite_n to_o be_v true_a also_o they_o keep_v the_o 8._o day_n see_v they_o be_v of_o the_o seed_n of_o abraham_n the_o right_a of_o circumcision_n belong_v to_o the_o child_n of_o the_o promise_n which_o be_v make_v to_o abraham_n in_o christ_n and_o therefore_o when_o any_o of_o â—-11_a rom._n 2._o 5._o 2_o chro._n 30_o â—-11_a abraham_n seed_n do_v cut_v off_o themselves_o by_o infidelity_n their_o †_o circumcision_n become_v uncircumcision_n on_o the_o contrary_a circumcision_n though_o administer_v in_o apostasy_n unto_o infant_n yea_o *_o those_o come_n to_o year_n and_o 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circumcision_n of_o israel_n be_v also_o true_a this_o be_v strange_a that_o israel_n can_v be_v a_o true_a church_n &_o yet_o infinite_o corrupt_a can_v â—â—l_n â—â—l_n a_o wife_n be_v a_o true_a wife_n &_o also_o a_o harlot_n thus_o you_o may_v as_o well_o justify_v rome_n &_o all_o antichristian_a assembly_n the_o holy_a ghost_n call_v both_o *_o aholah_n and_o aholibah_n 23_o ezech._n 23_o harlot_n and_o you_o in_o their_o infinite_a corruption_n instifye_v they_o to_o be_v true_a church_n and_o particular_o of_o israel_n the_o lord_n say_v †_o plead_v with_o your_o 2._o hose_n 2._o 2._o mother_n for_o she_o be_v not_o my_o wife_n and_o you_o say_v she_o be_v a_o true_a church_n that_o be_v a_o true_a wife_n direct_o contradict_v the_o holy_a ghost_n but_o you_o reason_n if_o judah_n retain_v true_a circumcision_n in_o her_o apostasy_n than_o israel_n etc._n etc._n then_o if_o either_o juda_n her_o circumcision_n be_v false_a or_o that_o your_o comparison_n be_v not_o equal_a your_o argument_n be_v of_o no_o force_n the_o sacrament_n seal_v up_o god_n covenant_n to_o his_o people_n walk_v in_o his_o way_n and_o not_o to_o they_o when_o they_o fall_v from_o the_o faith_n that_o of_o hosea_n 2._o 2._o allege_v by_o some_o be_v you_o say_v to_o prove_v israel_n a_o false_a church_n you_o thus_o answer_v unto_o â—_o hosea_n â—_o i_o say_v it_o be_v after_o the_o passeover_n of_o ezechias_n which_o be_v in_o the_o first_o year_n of_o his_o reign_n 2_o chron._n 29._o 3._o 14._o and_o 30._o 2._o and_o the_o bill_n of_o divorce_n be_v give_v the_o sixth_o â—re_n of_o his_o reign_n 2_o king_n 17._o 23._o compare_v with_o 2_o king_n 18._o 10._o yet_o notwithstanding_o hosea_n call_v israel_n the_o lord_n people_n after_o he_o have_v prophesy_v of_o the_o bill_n of_o divorce_n â—â—_o be_v give_v she_o hose_n 4._o 6._o 8._o 12._o etc._n etc._n concern_v the_o time_n of_o hosea_n his_o pprophecy_n when_o he_o say_v plead_v with_o 〈◊〉_d mother_n etc._n etc._n i_o take_v it_o be_v in_o the_o day_n of_o vzziah_n king_n of_o juda_n and_o about_o the_o 23._o the_o perkiâ—_n specimen_fw-la â—_o etc._n etc._n pag._n 3_o †_o 2._o kinâ—_n 17._o 23._o 23._o year_n of_o his_o reign_n which_o be_v almost_o 60._o year_n before_o ezechias_n begin_v to_o reign_v and_o before_o the_o lord_n †_o put_v israel_n out_o of_o his_o sight_n now_o so_o long_o before_o the_o prophet_n be_v bid_v to_o tell_v israel_n that_o she_o be_v not_o the_o lord_n wife_n this_o be_v so_o i_o will_v know_v how_o you_o or_o any_o can_v justify_v israel_n to_o be_v a_o true_a church_n when_o the_o lord_n deny_v she_o she_o have_v break_v covenant_n &_o her_o divorcement_n as_o you_o call_v it_o argue_v as_o much_o for_o man_n put_v from_o they_o wife_n that_o have_v break_v the_o band_n of_o marriage_n and_o not_o true_a wife_n to_o that_o of_o hosea_n 4._o 6._o 8._o 12._o i_o have_v answer_v pag._n 152._o furthermore_o you_o say_v when_o the_o bill_n of_o divorce_n be_v give_v divers_a 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but_o spiritual_a as_o for_o the_o form_n which_o you_o say_v be_v the_o wash_n of_o one_o into_o the_o covenant_n which_o can_v consent_v i_o answer_v that_o the_o form_n 25._o czech_n 16_o â—_o 21._o act._n 2._o 39_o â—3_n 25._o of_o baptism_n do_v not_o any_o more_o stand_v in_o the_o actual_a consent_n of_o the_o party_n baptize_v than_o the_o form_n of_o circumcision_n do_v consist_v in_o the_o assent_v of_o the_o party_n circumcise_v for_o there_o be_v alike_o reason_n of_o the_o form_n of_o these_o two_o sacrament_n and_o therefore_o as_o infant_n of_o the_o jew_n be_v circumcise_v notwithstanding_o by_o reason_n of_o their_o age_n they_o can_v not_o consent_v to_o that_o action_n so_o infant_n of_o believer_n may_v be_v baptize_v especial_o see_v they_o be_v but_o patient_n in_o this_o 2d_o mat._n 2d_o action_n this_o be_v the_o lord_n ordinance_n to_o †_o baptise_v the_o believer_n and_o his_o seed_n with_o water_n into_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n and_o of_o the_o son_n and_o of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o of_o this_o be_v infant_n capable_a as_o for_o seal_v to_o the_o covenant_n it_o be_v already_o prove_v that_o the_o lord_n seal_v his_o covenant_n to_o infant_n and_o for_o their_o seal_n to_o the_o lord_n they_o do_v as_o much_o as_o at_o that_o age_n be_v require_v or_o be_v require_v of_o the_o infant_n of_o the_o jew_n circumcise_v nether_a be_v there_o baptism_n without_o a_o contract_n for_o the_o lord_n have_v make_v his_o covenant_n with_o the_o faithful_a and_o their_o seed_n for_o the_o scripture_n describe_v true_a baptism_n thus_o the_o matter_n must_v be_v one_o that_o confess_v his_o faith_n and_o his_o sin_n one_o that_o be_v regenerate_v and_o bear_v again_o the_o form_n must_v be_v a_o voluntary_a deliverance_n up_o of_o the_o party_n baptize_v into_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n son_n and_o holy_a ghost_n by_o wash_v with_o water_n mat._n 28._o 19_o and_o 3._o 6._o joh._n 4._o 1._o act._n 2._o 14._o and_o 8._o 36._o 27._o with_o rom._n 6._o â—6_a where_o there_o must_v be_v a_o mutual_a confent_n of_o both_o person_n contract_v together_o and_o that_o this_o be_v so_o the_o form_n of_o baptism_n retain_v in_o popery_n yet_o teach_v etc._n etc._n that_o the_o matter_n of_o baptism_n as_o you_o term_v it_o or_o subject_n must_v necessary_o be_v one_o always_o that_o confess_v his_o faith_n and_o sin_n all_o that_o you_o have_v say_v re._n re._n hitherto_o have_v not_o prove_v it_o the_o scripture_n say_v it_o not_o and_o the_o contrary_n be_v confirm_v before_o viz._n that_o infant_n be_v to_o be_v baptize_v although_o they_o can_v not_o make_v actual_a profession_n of_o their_o faith_n &_o to_o we_o they_o be_v partaker_n of_o remission_n of_o synn_n and_o regeneration_n see_v they_o be_v in_o the_o covenant_n 2._o concern_v the_o form_n of_o baptism_n i_o confess_v it_o be_v the_o sprinkle_n of_o a_o fit_a subject_n with_o water_n into_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n etc._n etc._n but_o your_o voluntary_a deliverance_n up_o of_o the_o party_n baptize_v to_o make_v that_o action_n a_o part_n of_o the_o form_n of_o baptism_n all_o the_o scripture_n you_o cyte_v prove_v it_o not_o we_o confess_v that_o such_o as_o be_v of_o year_n must_v voluntary_o offer_v up_o themselves_o to_o be_v baptize_v and_o so_o be_v they_o that_o be_v to_o be_v circumcise_v notwithstanding_o the_o infant_n that_o can_v not_o do_v this_o be_v also_o circumcise_v &_o so_o must_v our_o infant_n be_v baptize_v the_o lord_n say_v to_o his_o minister_n baptise_v but_o say_v not_o let_v every_o one_o that_o be_v baptize_v offer_v himself_o voluntary_o thereunto_o as_o he_o do_v in_o the_o lord_n supper_n say_v take_v eat_v etc._n etc._n it_o be_v otherwise_o in_o baptism_n wherein_o the_o baptise_a be_v not_o agent_n but_o only_a patient_n
re._n or_o example_n or_o else_o you_o reject_v it_o as_o antichristian_a now_o yâ—â—_n be_v press_v with_o this_o act_n of_o zippora_fw-la you_o show_v nether_a nor_o any_o reason_n for_o the_o lawfullnes_n of_o the_o fact_n and_o yet_o you_o defend_v it_o answer_v that_o you_o know_v nothing_o to_o the_o contrary_a but_o zippora_fw-la may_v circumcise_v her_o son_n etc._n etc._n what_o needs_o the_o scripture_n to_o forbid_v woman_n to_o circumcise_v when_o for_o the_o adminisstring_n of_o that_o ceremony_n god_n give_v commandment_n that_o abraham_n the_o 4_o the_o gen._n 17._o 7._o â—om_n p._n with_o â—ers_n 10-13_a â—osuah_n 5._o 2_o â—_o 4_o master_n of_o the_o family_n shall_v circumcise_v all_o his_o male_n as_o baptism_n be_v now_o 19_o now_o mat._n 28._o 19_o enjoin_v to_o the_o apostle_n and_o minister_n of_o christ_n the_o which_o commandment_n disable_v all_o other_o whether_o woman_n or_o man_n that_o have_v not_o such_o call_n from_o god_n for_o the_o administeration_n thereof_o that_o zippora_n do_v circumcise_v her_o son_n by_o moses_n commandment_n appear_v not_o in_o the_o scripture_n but_o that_o â—5_n that_o exo._n 4._o 24_o â—5_n she_o be_v greeve_v at_o her_o husband_n neglect_n do_v it_o but_o if_o moses_n ought_v to_o do_v it_o himself_o the_o question_n be_v whether_o he_o may_v command_v his_o wife_n to_o do_v it_o the_o nonresidents_a in_o england_n be_v condemn_v for_o preach_v by_o their_o substitute_n and_o you_o descend_v that_o a_o woman_n may_v be_v a_o substitute_n to_o administer_v a_o sacrament_n if_o zipporah_n may_v circumcise_v in_o case_n of_o necessity_n at_o the_o appointment_n of_o her_o husband_n why_o may_v not_o the_o midwife'_v in_o case_n of_o necessity_n baptise_v by_o the_o appointment_n of_o the_o priest_n you_o pretend_v rule_n but_o in_o this_o you_o practice_v it_o not_o 4._o i_o yield_v that_o the_o minister_n shall_v not_o prejudice_n baptism_n if_o the_o baptism_n be_v the_o ans_fw-fr ans_fw-fr lord_n own_o ordinance_n etc._n etc._n in_o this_o we_o agree_v that_o the_o minister_n if_o he_o be_v not_o lawful_o call_v do_v not_o rep._n rep._n so_o far_o prejudice_n baptism_n as_o to_o make_v a_o nullity_n of_o it_o what_o be_v further_o here_o to_o be_v answer_v be_v do_v else_o where_o the_o 2_o objection_n you_o answer_v be_v that_o although_o baptism_n be_v administer_v in_o a_o false_a church_n of_o antichrist_n upon_o a_o unfit_a subject_n yet_o it_o shall_v not_o be_v repeat_v no_o more_o than_o circumcision_n in_o the_o day_n of_o jeroboam_n etc._n etc._n my_o word_n be_v these_o that_o â—epl_n â—epl_n the_o child_n in_o that_o apostasy_n be_v as_o fit_a subject_n to_o receive_v baptism_n as_o the_o infant_n of_o israel_n in_o the_o day_n of_o jeroboam_n be_v to_o receive_v circumcision_n and_o you_o pervert_v my_o word_n and_o say_v that_o i_o affirm_v that_o although_o baptism_n be_v administer_v in_o a_o false_a church_n upon_o a_o unfit_a subject_n be_v this_o to_o confess_v that_o infant_n be_v unfit_a subject_n to_o say_v they_o be_v as_o fit_a as_o the_o infant_n of_o israel_n yourself_o do_v acknowledge_v that_o the_o infant_n of_o israel_n in_o that_o apostasy_n be_v capable_a of_o circumcision_n i_o say_v that_o the_o infant_n of_o the_o antichristian_o be_v as_o capable_a as_o they_o not_o approve_v of_o the_o state_n of_o either_o but_o argue_v that_o if_o the_o former_a may_v stand_v for_o circumcision_n than_o also_o the_o other_o without_o iterate_v the_o state_n of_o the_o antichristian_o be_v alike_o to_o the_o apostate_n israelites_n but_o i_o will_v come_v to_o your_o further_a answer_n which_o be_v this_o i_o say_v that_o the_o israelite_n infant_n in_o there_o defection_n be_v the_o subject_n that_o god_n command_v ans_fw-fr ans_fw-fr to_o be_v circumcise_v so_o be_v not_o the_o infant_n in_o antichristianisme_n both_o for_o that_o they_o be_v 1._o infant_n 2._o member_n of_o a_o false_a church_n 3._o the_o seed_n of_o unbeliever_n that_o 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the_o former_a part_n of_o this_o writing_n where_o be_v prove_v that_o infant_n be_v fit_a subject_n of_o baptism_n concern_v the_o 2._o i_o may_v ask_v you_o why_o you_o make_v infant_n member_n of_o antichrist_n church_n and_o deny_v they_o to_o be_v member_n of_o true_a church_n but_o to_o let_v this_o pass_v i_o answer_v that_o this_o reason_n be_v of_o no_o force_n see_v yourself_o confess_v that_o if_o antichrist_n have_v baptize_v person_n confess_v their_o sin_n etc._n etc._n it_o have_v be_v true_a baptism_n to_o the_o three_o i_o answer_v that_o the_o infant_n in_o antichristianisme_n be_v no_o more_o the_o seed_n of_o unbeliever_n than_o the_o infant_n in_o jeroboam_n church_n be_v the_o seed_n of_o unbeliever_n both_o be_v the_o seed_n of_o apostate_n and_o that_o be_v all_o you_o can_v say_v of_o they_o their_o parent_n although_o apostate_v from_o many_o truth_n and_o pollute_v with_o man_n invention_n yet_o be_v not_o fall_v from_o all_o profession_n of_o jesus_n christ_n but_o still_o do_v and_o do_v acknowledge_v salvation_n by_o he_o retain_v and_o believe_v many_o main_n ground_n of_o faith_n &_o excellent_a truth_n &_o so_o many_o as_o the_o lord_n have_v his_o people_n in_o 18._o in_o rev._n 18._o babylon_n bring_v to_o the_o knowledge_n of_o god_n by_o those_o doctrine_n there_o teach_v and_o therefore_o thus_o i_o think_v of_o such_o apostate_n that_o in_o respect_n of_o their_o outward_a stand_n they_o remain_v in_o apostasy_n have_v forsake_v many_o truth_n pollute_v god_n ordinance_n practise_v the_o curse_a invention_n of_o man_n yet_o profess_v faith_n in_o god_n &_o in_o jesus_n christ_n though_o corrupt_o i_o can_v not_o hold_v they_o as_o infidel_n simple_o but_o as_o the_o israelite_n in_o their_o apostasy_n and_o their_o seed_n may_v rather_o be_v term_v the_o seed_n of_o apostate_n then_o of_o infidel_n or_o unbeliever_n and_o whereas_o you_o say_v that_o the_o covenant_n of_o abraham_n in_o respect_n of_o christ_n do_v â—â—_o true_o belong_v to_o the_o gentile_n after_o the_o come_n of_o christ_n as_o it_o do_v to_o the_o israelit_n though_o both_o in_o defection_n i_o deny_v it_o for_o the_o carnal_a covenant_n belong_v to_o the_o israelit_v the_o carnal_a seed_n of_o abraham_n even_o in_o their_o parent_n apostasy_n and_o the_o spiritual_a covenant_n do_v never_o appertain_v to_o the_o apostate_n parent_n 2._o much_o les_fw-fr to_o the_o infant_n of_o they_o etc._n etc._n 3._o no_o nor_o to_o the_o infant_n of_o the_o faithful_a as_o i_o have_v already_o prove_v and_o gal._n 3._o 14._o be_v not_o to_o be_v under_o stand_v of_o the_o blessing_n of_o abraham_n to_o come_v upon_o any_o of_o the_o gentile_n in_o their_o apostasy_n but_o only_o be_v in_o christ_n as_o the_o word_n be_v also_o ver_fw-la 7._o and_o 9_o etc._n etc._n i_o speak_v comparative_o of_o the_o seed_n of_o the_o apostate_n israelites_n and_o antichristian_o affirm_v the_o one_o as_o fit_a subject_n for_o baptism_n as_o the_o 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sin_n etc._n etc._n it_o shall_v not_o have_v be_v repeat_v so_o that_o to_o be_v member_n of_o a_o false_a church_n shall_v not_o hinder_v the_o efficacy_n of_o baptism_n again_o if_o antichrist_n intend_v in_o baptism_n to_o set_v a_o indelible_a character_n to_o confer_v grace_n ex_fw-la opere_fw-la operato_fw-la to_o infant_n and_o therefore_o set_v up_o his_o own_o idol_n as_o you_o say_v what_o say_v you_o to_o his_o baptise_v of_o the_o indian_n which_o be_v of_o year_n for_o he_o intend_v the_o same_o thing_n and_o yet_o his_o so_o baptise_v of_o the_o elder_a sort_n etc._n etc._n you_o will_v not_o have_v repeat_v so_o by_o your_o own_o opinion_n to_o set_v a_o indelible_a character_n to_o confer_v grace_n ex_fw-la operâ—_fw-la operato_fw-la be_v no_o good_a reason_n to_o prove_v the_o â—â—erating_n of_o child_n baptism_n for_o than_o shall_v it_o do_v so_o in_o the_o elder_a people_n confess_v their_o sin_n etc._n etc._n as_o for_o the_o promise_n make_v by_o other_o for_o the_o party_n baptize_v i_o place_v as_o a_o devise_n of_o man_n among_o the_o accidental_a corruption_n of_o this_o sacrament_n concern_v person_n confess_v their_o sin_n &_o faith_n who_o you_o make_v the_o only_a subject_n of_o baptism_n i_o have_v answer_v before_o and_o here_o tell_v you_o that_o the_o scripture_n mention_v 16._o mention_v 1_o cor._n â—_o act._n 16._o person_n that_o be_v baptize_v yet_o say_v not_o a_o word_n that_o they_o confess_v their_o faith_n &_o syn_n and_o you_o can_v never_o prove_v that_o all_o in_o the_o family_n of_o stephanas_n lidiah_n etc._n etc._n do_v confess_v their_o sin_n and_o faith_n but_o to_o all_o that_o you_o say_v here_o answer_n be_v give_v before_o four_o argument_n those_o holy_a thing_n which_o god_n by_o his_o merciful_a providence_n have_v preserve_v for_o his_o people_n through_o the_o hand_n of_o profane_a person_n be_v not_o to_o be_v reject_v for_o the_o author_n sake_n ezra_n 1_o 11_o but_o the_o scripture_n and_o baptism_n 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in_o type_n etc._n etc._n so_o shall_v it_o be_v blasphemy_n in_o they_o that_o call_v the_o true_a christianes_n anabaptist_n etc._n etc._n sir_n if_o you_o mind_v well_o your_o comparison_n it_o hold_v not_o for_o those_o wash_n â—p_n â—p_n under_o the_o law_n be_v proper_a ordinance_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n declare_v their_o repentance_n †_o and_o cleanse_n from_o their_o daily_a sin_n and_o pollution_n by_o faith_n 10_o joh._n 13_o 10_o in_o christ_n then_o to_o come_v but_o baptism_n whereof_o we_o speak_v be_v a_o ordinance_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o that_o but_o *_o one_o as_o their_o circumcision_n likewise_o be_v and_o 5_o ephe._n 4._o 5_o therefore_o be_v once_o administer_v though_o in_o some_o corruption_n be_v anabaptism_n to_o be_v iterate_v and_o it_o be_v such_o a_o wash_n as_o preach_v 〈◊〉_d we_o the_o purge_n of_o our_o sin_n by_o christ_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v not_o 〈◊〉_d often_o wash_n under_o the_o law_n that_o can_v make_v man_n anabaptist_n for_o 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to_o be_v retain_v and_o with_o god_n people_n to_o be_v carry_v with_o they_o out_o of_o spiritual_a babylon_n as_o the_o jew_n do_v the_o vessel_n of_o the_o lord_n house_n out_o of_o babylon_n of_o chaldea_n for_o the_o precept_n concern_v apostate_n church_n be_v 1â—_n be_v hos_fw-la â—_o rev._n 1â—_n to_o take_v away_o their_o fornication_n and_o not_o the_o thing_n of_o god_n pollute_v therewith_o v._o argument_n if_o antichrist_n be_v not_o the_o author_n of_o baptism_n but_o of_o some_o humane_a devise_n annex_v unto_o it_o in_o the_o adminstration_n thereof_o then_o be_v we_o not_o to_o pluck_v up_o the_o wheat_n with_o the_o tare_n mat._n 13._o 29._o &_o to_o cast_v away_o that_o which_o be_v christ_n with_o antichrist_n but_o to_o separate_v from_o that_o which_o be_v man_n invention_n and_o still_o to_o retain_v that_o which_o be_v of_o god_n but_o to_o baptise_v with_o water_n into_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n and_o of_o the_o son_n and_o of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n mat._n 28._o 19_o be_v from_o heaven_n mat._n 21._o 25._o and_o not_o from_o antichrist_n ergo_fw-la we_o ought_v not_o to_o cast_v it_o away_o but_o those_o tradition_n wherewith_o antichrist_n have_v pollute_v it_o as_o example_n k._n josias_n and_o before_o he_o k._n ezechias_n when_o both_o the_o land_n and_o temple_n be_v pollute_v 〈…〉_o ng_z 21_o 7._o &_o 23._o 4._o do_v not_o pull_v down_o the_o temple_n but_o appoint_v the_o priest_n to_o cleanse_v it_o who_o do_v so_o and_o bring_v out_o all_o the_o uncleanness_n that_o they_o have_v find_v in_o the_o house_n of_o god_n 2_o chron_n 29._o 16._o 18._o and_o 34._o 8._o for_o in_o reformation_n of_o thing_n difference_n must_v be_v put_v between_o those_o thing_n whereof_o god_n be_v the_o author_n and_o such_o as_o be_v devise_v by_o man_n the_o former_a be_v to_o be_v purge_v from_o all_o profanation_n &_o the_o thing_n still_o to_o be_v retain_v the_o other_o quite_o to_o be_v abolish_v this_o rule_n in_o all_o reformation_n of_o religion_n ought_v to_o be_v follow_v mr_n smyth_n i_o answer_v that_o as_o when_o the_o babylonian_n have_v utter_o destroy_v the_o temple_n the_o jew_n ans_fw-fr ans_fw-fr build_v it_o again_o so_o when_o antichrist_n have_v utter_o destroy_v the_o true_a church_n then_o must_v we_o build_v it_o up_o again_o and_o when_o he_o have_v destroy_v true_a baptism_n then_o must_v we_o rear_v it_o up_o again_o therefore_o see_v antichrist_n have_v abolish_v the_o true_a baptism_n and_o have_v rear_v up_o a_o baptism_n of_o his_o own_o it_o must_v therefore_o be_v abolish_v etc._n etc._n r._n clyfton_n first_o i_o answer_v that_o baptism_n in_o apostate_n church_n though_o it_o be_v pollute_v yet_o can_v not_o be_v say_v to_o be_v utter_o destroy_v and_o therefore_o your_o answer_n be_v not_o sufficient_a to_o prove_v the_o rebaptise_n of_o they_o that_o be_v baptize_v in_o the_o antichristian_a assembly_n 2._o in_o reject_v of_o that_o baptism_n altogether_o and_o baptise_v a_o new_a you_o do_v renounce_v that_o which_o be_v true_a therein_o by_o your_o own_o confession_n viz._n to_o wash_v with_o water_n into_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n and_o of_o the_o son_n and_o of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n in_o that_o in_o your_o new_a baptise_v of_o yourselves_o you_o repeat_v it_o again_o which_o you_o ought_v not_o if_o it_o be_v of_o god_n and_o so_o indeed_o you_o retain_v not_o any_o truth_n in_o it_o at_o all_o 3._o as_o for_o your_o comparison_n of_o a_o false_a church_n or_o ministry_n with_o baptism_n it_o be_v not_o equal_a for_o if_o you_o understand_v by_o false_a church_n and_o ministry_n that_o which_o be_v devise_v by_o man_n only_o then_o the_o constitution_n thereof_o be_v not_o of_o god_n ordinance_n as_o in_o jereboam_n priest_n and_o as_o in_o provincial_a or_o diocesan_n church_n wherein_o not_o one_o beam_n rafter_n or_o stone_n be_v appoint_v by_o the_o lord_n and_o therefore_o can_v not_o be_v retain_v with_o the_o purge_n away_o of_o the_o 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shadow_n 2_o lev._n 19_o 2_o even_o †_o holiness_n the_o circumcision_n of_o the_o hart_n *_o repentance_n 10._o repentance_n deut._n 10._o the_o service_n of_o the_o hart_n and_o soul_n and_o that_o the_o lord_n do_v principal_o require_v 13._o â—6_n jer._n 4._o 4._o â—_o hos_fw-la 14._o 2_o â—el_a 2._o 12._o â—3_n ps_n 4._o 4_o â—_o deut._n 10._o â—_o 6._o 4._o 5._o â—sa_fw-la 1._o 11_o â—_o &_o 58._o 2_o â—4_n 5._o ps_n â—0_n 8._o 13._o spiritual_a worship_n of_o they_o appear_v by_o his_o †_o rejection_n of_o their_o ceremonial_a worship_n when_o it_o be_v offer_v up_o without_o the_o spiritual_a and_o by_o exhort_v to_o the_o spiritual_a as_o psal_n 50._o 14._o 15._o to_o offer_v praise_n and_o to_o call_v upon_o he_o and_o psal_n 4._o 5._o to_o offer_v the_o sacrifice_n of_o righteousness_n and_o in_o hoseah_n 14._o 2._o to_o pray_v for_o pardon_n and_o to_o render_v up_o the_o calf_n of_o their_o lip_n and_o consequent_o faith_n in_o christ_n without_o 6_o without_o heb._n 11._o 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the_o believe_a parent_n abolish_v or_o make_v uncaple_n of_o the_o seal_n of_o god_n covenant_n for_o the_o child_n of_o christian_n 29_o christian_n gal._n 3._o 29_o be_v abraham_n seed_n i_o say_v not_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o flesh_n but_o by_o grace_n of_o the_o covenant_n comprehend_v the_o whole_a seed_n of_o the_o faithful_a and_o therefore_o have_v right_a as_o well_o to_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o covenant_n as_o have_v the_o carnal_a seed_n of_o abraham_n towch_v your_o proportionable_a infant_n as_o you_o term_v he_o it_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v that_o in_o the_o old_a church_n it_o be_v require_v of_o all_o that_o be_v to_o be_v adjoin_v thereunto_o that_o they_o shall_v 21._o shall_v exod._n 12_o 48._o ezr._n 6_o 21._o separate_v from_o the_o filthiness_n of_o the_o heathen_a to_o seek_v the_o lord_n as_o now_o it_o be_v under_o the_o gospel_n and_o therefore_o it_o will_v not_o follow_v that_o circumcision_n be_v a_o type_n only_o of_o the_o time_n to_o come_v the_o 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can_v any_o say_v that_o none_o of_o esau_n his_o posterty_n be_v in_o god_n secret_a election_n &_o if_o this_o scripture_n will_v not_o warrant_v any_o so_o to_o judge_n than_o neither_o will_v it_o warrant_v rebecca_n so_o to_o apply_v it_o to_o her_o son_n be_v so_o general_o speak_v the_o personal_a rejection_n either_o of_o ishmael_n or_o esau_n be_v not_o revel_v until_o by_o their_o evil_a work_n they_o manife_v themselves_o and_o therefore_o these_o child_n be_v bear_v in_o the_o church_n as_o esau_n be_v in_o jacobs_n house_n be_v to_o be_v repute_v holy_a to_o be_v circumcise_v and_o hold_v of_o the_o covenant_n until_o there_o wickedness_n throw_v they_o out_o that_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o the_o jew_n be_v not_o under_o the_o possession_n of_o the_o everlasting_a covenant_n in_o respect_n of_o christ_n but_o only_o under_o the_o offer_n of_o it_o i_o use_v these_o reason_n first_o the_o condition_n or_o obedience_n of_o the_o matter_n or_o member_n of_o the_o new_a 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worship_n &_o obedience_n without_o which_o their_o 5_o their_o esa_n 1._o 12._o 15._o gâ—_n 4._o 5_o ceremonial_a be_v abominable_a also_o if_o preach_v of_o the_o word_n and_o prayer_n etc._n etc._n be_v of_o a_o spiritual_a nature_n than_o be_v their_o ministry_n and_o worship_n more_o than_o carnal_a the_o prophet_n 1â—_n prophet_n esa_n 56._o 1â—_n complain_v of_o neglect_n of_o teach_v in_o the_o priest_n which_o argue_v that_o they_o be_v bind_v by_o their_o calling_n to_o instruct_v the_o people_n malachy_n say_v 7._o say_v mal._n 2._o â—_o 6._o 7._o the_o priest_n lip_n shall_v preserve_v knowledge_n etc._n etc._n they_o shall_v seek_v the_o law_n at_o his_o mouth_n for_o he_o be_v the_o messenger_n of_o the_o lord_n of_o host_n and_o this_o be_v by_o office_n for_o the_o lord_n say_v my_o covenant_n be_v with_o levi_n of_o life_n and_o peace_n etc._n etc._n the_o law_n of_o truth_n be_v in_o his_o mouth_n and_o in_o jeremy_n the_o lord_n complain_v of_o the_o priest_n say_v 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â—â—h_o 8._o 6._o â—l_n 1._o 14._o â—_o 2._o 16._o 17._o be_v a_o part_n of_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o priest_n and_o levite_n and_o of_o their_o public_a worship_n on_o the_o sabbath_n also_o the_o priest_n †_o give_v thanks_o unto_o god_n for_o the_o people_n bless_v they_o and_o pray_v the_o temple_n be_v call_v the_o house_n of_o prayer_n math._n 21._o 13._o also_o they_o have_v certain_a hour_n of_o meeting_n at_o the_o temple_n which_o be_v call_v hour_n of_o prayer_n act._n 3._o 1._o and_o they_o be_v command_v spiritual_a sacrifice_n as_o ps_n 4._o 5._o &_o 50._o 14._o 15._o 23._o as_o former_o be_v observe_v concern_v the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n which_o be_v by_o the_o priest_n and_o levite_n elder_n i_o know_v no_o great_a difference_n in_o nature_n of_o thâ—t_a church_n and_o of_o this_o under_o the_o gospel_n the_o former_a be_v govern_v ecclesiastical_o by_o the_o priest_n &_o elder_n mat._n 26._o 47._o luk._n 22._o 66_o act._n 23._o 14._o and_o 6._o 12._o and_o 13._o 15._o &_o 18._o 8._o 2_o chro._n 19_o 8._o and_o so_o the_o church_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n be_v to_o be_v govern_v by_o the_o 27._o mat._n 18._o â—5_n 16._o 17._o â—_o cor._n 5._o 3._o 5_o â—_o exo._n 19_o 6._o â—_o exod_a 22._o â—1_n lev._n 14_o â—_o &_o 11._o 44_o use_v 20._o 7._o â—_o pet._n 1._o 16._o rom._n 11._o 16_o â—_o deu._n 4._o 20_o &_o 5._o 2._o psa_fw-la â—0_n 3._o 4._o deu._n 14._o 2._o rom._n 11._o â—19_a 23._o â—_o 27._o minister_n and_o elder_n act._n 20._o 28._o 1_o tim._n 5._o 17._o 1_o thes_n 5._o 12._o hebr._n 13_o 8._o the_o censure_n ecclesiastical_a under_o the_o old_a testament_n be_v admonition_n &_o cast_v out_o of_o the_o synagogue_n
confirm_v their_o â—_o their_o deu._n 2d_o 10_o 13._o “_o gal._n 3._o â—_o coâ—enant_n be_v to_o be_v the_o lord_n people_n &_o be_v the_o same_o that_o we_o be_v enter_v into_o else_o can_v not_o the_o “_o blessing_n of_o abraham_n come_v on_o the_o gentile_n through_o jesus_n christ_n that_o we_o may_v receive_v the_o promise_n through_o faith_n if_o that_o the_o covenant_n which_o we_o receive_v be_v not_o the_o same_o that_o be_v make_v to_o abraham_n and_o his_o seed_n also_o peter_n affirm_v it_o to_o be_v the_o same_o act._n 2._o 39_o if_o then_o the_o lord_n require_v of_o israel_n true_a holiness_n and_o make_v no_o other_o coâ—enant_n with_o they_o whereby_o he_o will_v accept_v they_o to_o be_v his_o people_n but_o that_o everlasting_a covenant_n and_o that_o this_o be_v the_o matter_n and_o form_n of_o the_o church_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n true_a holiness_n of_o the_o member_n and_o communion_n in_o the_o covenant_n and_o gospel_n then_o be_v not_o the_o 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spiritual_a promise_n but_o only_o carnal_a &_o typical_a thing_n 23._o heb._n 9_o â—â—_o 23._o in_o that_o other_o scripture_n heb._n 9_o 19_o 23._o paul_n set_v down_o the_o proportion_n between_o the_o type_n and_o the_o thing_n type_v between_o the_o legal_a sacrifice_n and_o purifying_n &_o the_o purge_n of_o sin_n by_o the_o blood_n of_o jesus_n christ_n between_o the_o old_a testament_n and_o the_o new_a &c_n &c_n and_o so_o show_v how_o the_o truth_n answer_v unto_o the_o type_n conclude_v that_o christ_n have_v take_v away_o the_o sin_n of_o many_o by_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o himself_o and_o this_o be_v that_o which_o the_o apostle_n intend_v and_o not_o to_o show_v that_o the_o constitution_n of_o the_o old_a church_n be_v the_o type_n of_o the_o constitution_n of_o the_o new_a 3._o that_o which_o be_v not_o nor_o can_v not_o be_v accomplish_v perform_v effect_v â—_o produce_v by_o the_o walk_n or_o communion_n of_o the_o church_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n be_v not_o require_v or_o exact_v or_o presuppose_v to_o the_o constitution_n of_o the_o church_n of_o the_o old_a testâ—â—_n justification_n and_o faith_n and_o sanctification_n and_o repentance_n be_v not_o effect_v perform_v accomplish_v or_o produce_v by_o the_o walk_n or_o communion_n of_o the_o church_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n heb_fw-mi 9_o 9_o gal._n 2._o 15._o 16._o ergo_fw-la etc._n etc._n 15_o deut._n 29._o â—_o jer._n 13._o â—_o â—_o luk._n 1._o â—_o 74._o 1_o pet_n â—â—_o 9_o 10._o â—_o 2._o 12._o â—_o 22._o gen._n 17._o 7_o â—om_n 4._o 11_o â—a_n 26._o &_o â—_o heb._n 4._o 2_o â—_o 11._o 30._o â—_o cor._n 10._o 3_o â—_o ezech._n 18_o â—_o 32._o joel._n â—_o 3._o â—b_fw-la 9_o 9_o â—â—_o 2._o 15_o the_o assumption_n be_v deny_v and_o the_o contrary_n be_v prove_v before_o for_o the_o member_n of_o that_o church_n may_v have_v and_o have_v faith_n repentance_n justification_n &_o sanctification_n see_v the_o †_o lord_n be_v their_o god_n in_o that_o stand_n &_o he_o be_v god_n to_o none_o but_o to_o they_o that_o be_v he_o in_o *_o christ_n &_o therefore_o it_o must_v follow_v that_o they_o be_v partaker_n of_o faith_n justification_n etc._n etc._n in_o that_o their_o communion_n again_o as_o the_o covenant_n be_v give_fw-ge to_o abraham_n so_o be_v “_o it_o to_o his_o seed_n but_o to_o abraham_n it_o be_v give_fw-ge †_o for_o justification_n therefore_o to_o his_o seed_n i_o mean_v the_o israelite_n and_o people_n of_o god_n that_o be_v before_o and_o under_o the_o old_a test_n also_o i_o have_v prove_v *_o before_o that_o god_n require_v of_o the_o israelite_n “_o faith_n and_o repentance_n and_o that_o they_o do_v repent_v &_o believe_v &_o so_o consequent_o justification_n &_o sanctification_n be_v effect_v &_o accomplish_v in_o the_o member_n of_o that_o church_n in_o the_o communion_n thereof_o and_o require_v in_o the_o constitution_n touch_v heb._n 9_o 9_o you_o may_v be_v satisfy_v in_o my_o answer_n to_o your_o second_o argument_n yet_o this_o i_o will_v further_o add_v that_o the_o apostle_n have_v describe_v the_o part_n of_o the_o tabernacle_n etc._n etc._n in_o ver_fw-la 9_o show_v the_o use_n of_o those_o thing_n to_o be_v a_o figure_n for_o the_o present_a preach_v unto_o they_o spiritual_a thing_n in_o christ_n in_o who_o they_o believe_v the_o same_o to_o be_v fulfil_v and_o here_o it_o must_v be_v observe_v that_o these_o ordinance_n whereof_o the_o apostle_n speak_v be_v such_o as_o by_o moses_n be_v give_v to_o that_o church_n long_o after_o the_o constitution_n thereof_o in_o that_o other_o scripture_n gal._n 2._o 15._o 16._o paul_n reason_v not_o about_o the_o constitution_n of_o the_o ch._n of_o the_o jew_n whether_o justification_n be_v require_v therein_o but_o have_v to_o deal_v against_o the_o false_a teacher_n that_o teach_v the_o galathian_o can_v not_o be_v justify_v without_o the_o work_n of_o the_o law_n affirm_v the_o contrary_a in_o these_o two_o verse_n say_v we_o jew_n by_o nature_n know_v that_o a_o man_n be_v not_o justify_v by_o the_o work_n of_o the_o law_n but_o by_o the_o faith_n of_o jesus_n ch._n etc._n etc._n this_o be_v the_o purpose_n of_o the_o apostle_n to_o establish_v justification_n by_o faith_n without_o work_n do_v not_o deny_v the_o church_n before_o the_o come_n of_o christ_n to_o be_v justify_v by_o faith_n but_o teach_v that_o both_o that_o church_n and_o this_o under_o the_o gospel_n be_v save_v not_o by_o work_n but_o by_o the_o free_a promise_n of_o god_n in_o christ_n receive_v by_o faith_n and_o thus_o you_o see_v neither_o of_o these_o scripture_n prove_v your_o desire_n 4_o that_o which_o bring_v not_o perfection_n and_o life_n to_o the_o member_n presuppose_v not_o â—â—th_n and_o repentance_n to_o the_o member_n and_o so_o not_o real_a or_o true_a holiness_n but_o the_o old_a test_n â—e_v law_n and_o obedience_n of_o the_o law_n bring_v not_o perfection_n and_o life_n to_o the_o member_n of_o the_o church_n of_o the_o old_a test_n heb_fw-mi 7._o 19_o gal._n 3._o 21._o erg._n etc._n etc._n first_o concern_v the_o major_a the_o old_a testament_n though_o it_o bring_v not_o perfection_n yet_o do_v it_o require_v faith_n in_o christ_n to_o come_v 2._o touch_v your_o â—inor_n first_o i_o require_v what_o you_o mean_v by_o the_o old_a testament_n whether_o the_o book_n thereof_o or_o the_o covenant_n of_o work_n whereof_o moses_n be_v the_o mediator_n if_o the_o former_a then_o be_v your_o minor_a false_a for_o those_o book_n conteyn_v as_o well_o gospel_n as_o law_n the_o promise_n make_v unto_o the_o father_n in_o christ_n to_o the_o receyve_v whereof_o be_v require_v at_o all_o time_n faith_n and_o repentance_n aswell_o before_o christ_n incarnation_n as_o since_o but_o iâ—_n you_o â—ind_v it_o 10._o it_o rom._n â—_o heb._n 10._o of_o the_o law_n only_o &_o administration_n of_o moses_n it_o be_v true_a that_o perfection_n and_o life_n come_v not_o by_o the_o law_n nor_o by_o the_o obedience_n or_o ceremony_n of_o the_o law_n but_o withal_o you_o must_v know_v that_o the_o jew_n be_v also_o partaker_n of_o the_o everlasting_a covenant_n in_o christ_n as_o 14_o as_o pa._n 23._o â—_o “_o gen._n 3._o â—_o &_o 12._o 3._o â—_o 17._o 7._o 21._o esa_n 1._o â—_o &_o 7._o 14._o â—_o 9_o 6_o gen_n â—_o 10._o numâ—_n 24._o 17._o gâ—_n 3._o 8._o 14_o before_o be_v prove_v 3_o for_o the_o church_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n it_o can_v bring_v or_o publish_v life_n to_o the_o member_n thereof_o see_v it_o have_v the_o promise_n “_o of_o the_o gospel_n and_o so_o presuppose_a faith_n repentance_n &_o true_a holiness_n as_o you_o speak_v to_o the_o scripture_n first_o to_o heb._n 7._o 19_o i_o answer_v that_o the_o law_n indeed_o make_v nothing_o perfect_a nor_o can_v give_v life_n but_o i_o have_v tell_v you_o again_o and_o
to_o be_v baptize_v unto_o moses_n may_v thus_o be_v understand_v viz._n that_o they_o be_v baptize_v moses_n be_v their_o guide_n or_o minister_v by_o who_o they_o be_v instruct_v in_o the_o way_n of_o god_n three_o the_o baptism_n of_o the_o israelite_n howsoever_o it_o may_v be_v typical_a in_o some_o respect_n yet_o do_v it_o signify_v unto_o they_o true_a thing_n whereof_o they_o be_v partaker_n 18._o deu._n 6._o 6._o &_o 11._o 18._o â—_o gen._n 18._o last_o the_o infant_n under_o the_o law_n and_o before_o †_o have_v their_o daily_a education_n by_o faithful_a parent_n as_o well_o as_o we_o have_v under_o the_o gospel_n so_o that_o in_o this_o respect_n there_o be_v no_o such_o material_a difference_n as_o you_o pretend_v moreover_o i_o deny_v that_o the_o baptism_n of_o the_o cloud_n and_o sea_n be_v a_o type_n of_o the_o external_a baptism_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n in_o the_o abstract_n but_o it_o be_v a_o type_n of_o our_o baptism_n in_o the_o concrete_a that_o be_v the_o 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circumcision_n do_v to_o the_o jew_n infant_n if_o not_o baptism_n how_o be_v it_o you_o make_v a_o question_n how_o the_o preach_n of_o christ_n can_v profit_v infant_n either_o then_o in_o type_n or_o now_o in_o truth_n and_o you_o say_v neither_o do_v i_o think_v that_o the_o lord_n ever_o intend_v to_o teach_v the_o infant_n any_o thing_n at_o that_o instant_n but_o afterward_o to_o learn_v that_o which_o circumcision_n teach_v he_o viz._n the_o circumcision_n of_o the_o hart_n and_o if_o you_o say_v that_o infant_n baptize_v be_v to_o be_v instruct_v i_o answer_v that_o in_o the_o new_a testament_n by_o baptism_n we_o manifest_v what_o we_o have_v namely_o the_o inward_a baptism_n whereas_o in_o the_o old_a testament_n by_o circumcision_n they_o learn_v what_o they_o have_v not_o but_o aught_o to_o have_v viz._n the_o inward_a circumcision_n of_o the_o haâ—…_n etc._n etc._n first_o the_o preach_n of_o christ_n by_o circumcise_n and_o baptise_v of_o infant_n do_v then_o and_o do_v now_o profit_v their_o parent_n by_o see_v the_o covenant_n confirm_v to_o their_o seed_n and_o although_o the_o infant_n themselves_o know_v not_o the_o use_n thereof_o till_o afterward_o yet_o it_o make_v not_o the_o lord_n ordinance_n to_o be_v any_o more_o unlawful_a then_o †_o christ_n wash_n peter_n foot_n because_o peter_n understand_v 7._o â—oh_o 13._o 7._o it_o not_o it_o suffice_v that_o the_o lord_n command_v the_o thing_n to_o be_v do_v and_o that_o child_n be_v *_o teach_v the_o use_n thereof_o as_o they_o shall_v be_v capable_a 20._o deu._n 6._o 20._o second_o concern_v that_o difference_n you_o make_v between_o baptism_n and_o circumcision_n afferm_v that_o by_o the_o former_a we_o manifest_a what_o we_o have_v etc._n etc._n and_o by_o the_o other_o they_o learn_v what_o they_o have_v not_o it_o be_v not_o true_a that_o you_o say_v of_o the_o circumcise_a that_o they_o have_v not_o inward_a circumcision_n for_o god_n do_v promise_v it_o to_o they_o and_o their_o child_n deut._n 30._o 6._o as_o well_o as_o to_o we_o and_o here_o let_v it_o be_v mind_v that_o you_o confess_v that_o the_o israelite_n ought_v to_o have_v have_v inward_a circumcision_n if_o they_o ought_v to_o have_v have_v it_o it_o be_v by_o their_o constitution_n or_o everlasting_a cov_n of_o god_n make_v with_o they_o for_o otherwise_o how_o ought_v they_o have_v have_v it_o then_o how_o will_v you_o prove_v that_o their_o covenant_n be_v carnal_a which_o require_v inward_a circumcision_n the_o truth_n agree_v with_o itself_o argument_n 6._o math._n 28._o 19_o if_o christ_n give_v a_o commandment_n for_o the_o publish_n of_o his_o covenant_n and_o administration_n of_o baptism_n the_o seal_n thereof_o to_o all_o nation_n then_o be_v the_o believe_a gentile_n and_o their_o infant_n to_o receive_v the_o same_o
more_o ancient_a than_o error_n and_o although_o you_o esteem_v not_o of_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o father_n witness_v against_o you_o yet_o have_v you_o summon_v together_o such_o man_n as_o you_o think_v will_v give_v any_o contenance_n to_o your_o error_n to_o battle_v against_o both_o the_o scripture_n and_o they_o but_o their_o testimony_n do_v little_a pleasure_n you_o as_o shall_v appear_v by_o the_o examination_n of_o the_o particular_n the_o first_o you_o allege_v be_v henr-pantalâ—on_a 5._o chro._n fol._n 6._o who_o say_v that_o victor_n apher_n anno_o 193._o ordain_v that_o aâ—_n easter_n it_o shall_v be_v indifferent_o administer_v to_o all_o whereupon_o i_o gather_v that_o before_o his_o time_n only_o such_o as_o be_v catechise_v in_o the_o faith_n be_v baptize_v for_o he_o will_v not_o decree_v that_o heathen_a shall_v be_v baptize_v this_o man_n i_o take_v his_o word_n upon_o your_o report_n do_v mention_v victor_n decree_n for_o the_o time_n of_o administration_n of_o baptism_n to_o all_o young_a and_o old_a viz_o at_o easter_n but_o will_v any_o but_o you_o infer_v hereupon_o that_o baptism_n be_v not_o administer_v before_o this_o time_n to_o infant_n you_o may_v aswell_o say_v that_o before_o that_o time_n it_o be_v not_o administer_v to_o the_o elder_a sort_n for_o he_o speak_v in_o general_a of_o the_o person_n to_o be_v baptize_v victor_n bring_v not_o in_o baptise_v of_o infant_n which_o be_v then_o the_o church_n practice_n but_o prescribe_v a_o certain_a time_n for_o the_o general_a administration_n of_o that_o sacrament_n as_o gelasius_n do_v the_o like_a anno_fw-la 494._o that_o infant_n be_v baptize_v before_o victor_n time_n appear_v by_o that_o â—â—bius_fw-la relic_n 〈…〉_o e_o p._n â—_o 96._o â—â—bius_fw-la *_o of_o higinius_n who_o decree_v that_o child_n which_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v shall_v have_v a_o godfather_n and_o a_o godmother_n anno_fw-la 143._o higinius_n live_v before_o victor_n about_o 50._o year_n your_o next_o eusebius_n hist_o lib._n 7._o cap._n 8._o say_v that_o novatus_n reject_v the_o holy_a baptism_n and_o overthrow_v the_o faith_n and_o confession_n which_o be_v accustom_v before_o baptism_n whereby_o it_o appear_v that_o faith_n and_o confession_n be_v require_v before_o baptism_n and_o therefore_o the_o rudiment_n thereof_o still_o remain_v that_o in_o the_o baptise_n of_o infant_n a_o confession_n of_o sin_n and_o faith_n be_v require_v of_o the_o surety_n or_o parent_n that_o confession_n be_v require_v before_o the_o baptise_n of_o man_n grow_v to_o year_n and_o new_o come_v to_o the_o faith_n be_v not_o deny_v and_o more_o than_o this_o can_v not_o be_v gather_v from_o eusebius_n word_n as_o you_o set_v they_o down_o but_o what_o be_v this_o against_o the_o baptise_n of_o infant_n howbeit_o i_o find_v not_o this_o of_o novatus_n in_o lib._n 7._o chap._n 8._o but_o in_o that_o chapter_n mention_n be_v make_v of_o a_o certain_a faithful_a brother_n that_o be_v present_a when_o 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