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A90624 A vindication of The preacher sent, or A vvarrant for publick preaching without ordination. Wherein is further discovered. 1. That some gifted men unordained, are Gospel preachers. 2. That officers sustain not a relation (as officers) to the universal Church; and other weighty questions concerning election and ordination, are opened and cleared. In answer to two books. 1. Vindiciæ ministrij evangelici revindicatæ or the Preacher (pretendly) sent, sent back again. By Dr. Colling of Norwich. 2. Quo warranto, or a moderate enquiry into the warrantableness of the preaching of gifted and unordained persons. By Mr. Pool, at the desire and appointment of the Provincial Assembly of London. With a reply to the exceptions of Mr. Hudson and Dr. Collings against the epistle to the preacher sent. / Published by Frederick Woodal, minister of the Gospel at Woodbridge in Suffolk. Samuel Petto minister of the GospeI [sic] at Sandcraft in Suffolk. Woodall, Frederick, b. 1614.; Petto, Samuel, 1624?-1711. 1659 (1659) Wing P1902; Thomason E1728_2; ESTC R204138 152,808 253

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they_o ought_v to_o exercise_v their_o power_n every_o where_o if_o it_o be_v to_o his_o purpose_n but_o the_o scripture_n frequent_o witness_v and_o himself_o confess_v that_o they_o may_v not_o exercise_v that_o power_n but_o by_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o church_n or_o ruler_n 2._o that_o any_o unblameable_a officer_n of_o christ_n shall_v be_v just_o hinder_v from_o the_o exercise_n of_o all_o office-power_n or_o have_v none_o that_o they_o can_v in_o christ_n order_n exercise_v it_o upon_o whilst_o the_o office-power_n continue_v upon_o they_o in_o a_o strange_a paradox_n for_o all_o that_o have_v office-power_n be_v actual_o and_o immediate_o under_o a_o command_n of_o christ_n to_o do_v office-work_n as_o those_o scripture_n which_o speak_v of_o the_o duty_n of_o officer_n do_v abundant_o testify_v and_o so_o christ_n shall_v command_v the_o same_o person_n at_o the_o same_o time_n to_o do_v and_o yet_o not_o to_o do_v office-work_n and_o then_o christ_n command_n shall_v clash_v one_o with_o a_o other_o now_o suppose_v such_o a_o officer_n have_v no_o particular_a flock_n and_o all_o church_n and_o ruler_n deny_v their_o consent_n either_o from_o their_o be_v full_a of_o officer_n or_o upon_o other_o lawful_a account_n in_o this_o case_n he_o will_v be_v just_o hinder_v from_o the_o exercise_n of_o all_o office-power_n and_o have_v none_o that_o he_o can_v exercise_v it_o upon_o for_o mr._n poole_n confess_v p._n 6._o he_o may_v not_o exercise_v the_o power_n but_o by_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o church_n or_o ruler_n we_o may_v show_v many_o other_o inconvenience_n that_o the_o assert_v officr_n to_o have_v a_o habitual_a power_n over_o a_o universal_a church_n draw_v along_o with_o it_o but_o we_o forbear_v say_v only_o this_o it_o do_v not_o look_v like_o the_o order_n of_o christ_n that_o a_o minister_n power_n shall_v extend_v to_o the_o catholic_a church_n when_o it_o be_v impossible_a that_o he_o shall_v ever_o exercise_v that_o power_n it_o may_v be_v to_o the_o thousand_o part_n of_o that_o church_n nay_o when_o he_o be_v by_o divine_a right_n fix_v in_o a_o particular_a church_n the_o reside_a in_o which_o forbid_v his_o travel_a to_o do_v act_n of_o office_n to_o the_o universal_a premis_fw-la 2._o he_o premise_v pag._n 7._o that_o a_o general_a respect_n to_o the_o whole_a church_n be_v not_o inconsistent_a with_o a_o peculiar_a respect_n to_o some_o one_o church_n this_o he_o illustrate_v by_o a_o instance_n of_o a_o vast_a number_n of_o sheep_n which_o twenty_o shepherd_n be_v choose_v to_o look_v unto_o and_o by_o the_o german_a empire_n etc._n etc._n ans_fw-fr 1._o we_o deny_v that_o there_o be_v such_o a_o whole_a church_n as_o he_o suppose_v for_o which_o denial_n we_o have_v give_v reason_n else_o where_o and_o let_v the_o reader_n take_v notice_n once_o for_o all_o that_o when_o ever_o we_o speak_v as_o if_o there_o be_v such_o a_o whole_a church_n or_o catholic_a church_n we_o only_o suppose_v it_o but_o do_v not_o grant_v it_o in_o his_o sense_n 2._o suppose_v there_o be_v such_o a_o church_n we_o deny_v that_o any_o institution_n of_o christ_n have_v determine_v ordinary_a officer_n to_o have_v a_o general_a respect_n as_o officer_n to_o the_o whole_a church_n and_o so_o his_o infrance_n of_o a_o vast_a number_n of_o sheep_n and_o the_o empire_n come_v to_o nothing_o 3_o a_o peculiar_a respect_n to_o some_o one_o church_n be_v inconsistent_a with_o the_o same_o relation_n to_o a_o other_o for_o nothing_o be_v peculiar_a but_o that_o which_o be_v appropriate_v israel_n be_v god_n peculiar_a people_n that_o be_v his_o only_a as_o to_o his_o instance_n about_o sheep_n we_o say_v if_o the_o master_n of_o the_o sheep_n choose_v the_o twenty_o shepherd_n and_o commit_v the_o whole_a number_n of_o sheep_n to_o they_o than_o the_o actual_a care_n of_o every_o sheep_n be_v upon_o every_o one_o and_o if_o but_o one_o sheep_n be_v lose_v every_o shepherd_n will_v fall_v under_o blame_n neither_o will_v the_o distribute_v the_o sheep_n into_o twenty_o parcel_n though_o some_o be_v careful_a of_o their_o parcel_n excuse_v any_o from_o blame_n the_o distribution_n or_o division_n be_v the_o act_n of_o the_o shepherd_n according_a to_o his_o infrance_n not_o the_o act_n of_o the_o master_n if_o the_o catholic_a church_n be_v thus_o commit_v to_o officer_n than_o every_o officer_n will_v be_v unblamable_a for_o the_o wander_n of_o any_o one_o member_n of_o that_o church_n though_o their_o habitation_n be_v thousand_o of_o mile_n distant_a each_o from_o other_o but_o christ_n have_v commit_v only_o a_o particular_a church_n or_o flock_n of_o his_o sheep_n to_o the_o charge_n of_o any_o one_o of_o his_o officer_n and_o if_o other_o not_o of_o a_o man_n own_o flock_n do_v miscarry_v his_o not_o seek_v their_o reducement_n to_o the_o utmost_a of_o his_o ability_n and_o opportunity_n be_v a_o sin_n against_o charity_n but_o not_o against_o his_o office_n according_a to_o any_o gosple_n rule_n that_o yet_o we_o can_v find_v the_o angel_n of_o the_o church_n of_o ephesus_n be_v not_o rebaked_a for_o the_o miscarriage_n of_o the_o church_n of_o smyrna_n nor_o be_v the_o angel_n of_o the_o church_n of_o smyrna_n reprove_v for_o the_o sin_n of_o pergamus_n or_o thyatira_n or_o sardis_n revel_v 2_o and_o 3._o but_o every_o angel_n be_v reprove_v for_o the_o sin_n of_o that_o particular_a church_n which_o he_o be_v set_v over_o as_o to_o his_o instance_n of_o the_o german_a empire_n page_n 8._o we_o say_v it_o have_v a_o vast_a disparity_n in_o it_o to_o the_o case_n in_o hand_n for_o there_o be_v no_o act_n to_o be_v perform_v in_o the_o church_n to_o make_v a_o double_a relation_n necessary_a answerable_a to_o those_o in_o the_o empire_n if_o no_o emperor_n be_v to_o be_v choose_v or_o act_n of_o general_a concernment_n to_o the_o whole_a empire_n as_o such_o to_o be_v exert_v those_o prince_n or_o elector_n will_v not_o sustain_v any_o such_o general_a relation_n to_o the_o whole_a empire_n and_o there_o be_v no_o universal_a church-officer_n to_o be_v choose_v or_o any_o act_n of_o institute_v worship_n to_o be_v perform_v which_o be_v peculiar_a to_o a_o universal_a church_n as_o such_o hence_o the_o case_n be_v vast_o different_a and_o also_o it_o be_v very_o improbable_a that_o such_o a_o order_n shall_v be_v of_o christ_n appointment_n they_o have_v not_o one_o by_o systeme_n of_o law_n neither_o be_v these_o elector_n or_o prince_n entrust_v with_o a_o joint-power_n for_o the_o ordinary_a government_n of_o the_o whole_a but_o every_o free_a prince_n have_v power_n to_o make_v what_o law_n he_o will_v and_o if_o he_o will_v allow_v every_o congregational_a church_n as_o entire_a a_o power_n within_o itself_o as_o every_o of_o those_o prince_n have_v within_o his_o own_o territory_n we_o suppose_v no_o power_n beyond_o that_o will_v belong_v to_o any_o but_o christ_n himself_o ob._n the_o apostle_n be_v pastor_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n yet_o the_o work_n be_v divide_v among_o they_o and_o they_o undertake_v aspeciall_a relation_n to_o some_o particular_a part_n as_o peter_z to_o the_o jew_n and_o paul_n to_o the_o gentile_n james_n to_o jerusalem_n etc._n etc._n mr._n poole_n pag_n 8._o ans_fw-fr 1._o the_o apostle_n be_v extraordinary_a officer_n our_o question_n be_v only_o about_o ordinary_a officer_n 2._o the_o apostle_n have_v immediate_a direction_n from_o the_o lord_n where_o to_o labour_v in_o the_o work_n of_o their_o office_n act._n 13._o 4._o act._n 16._o 9_o act._n 10._o ver_fw-la 19_o 20._o yea_o that_o commit_v of_o the_o jew_n to_o peter_n and_o of_o the_o gentile_n to_o paul_n seem_v to_o be_v by_o immediate_a ducture_n from_o the_o spirit_n gal_n 2._o ver_fw-la 7._o he_o that_o wrought_v effectual_o in_o peter_n to_o the_o apostleship_n of_o the_o circumcision_n the_o same_o be_v mighty_a in_o i_o towards_o the_o gentile_n the_o lord_n make_v such_o a_o division_n if_o it_o be_v one_o be_v sufficient_a to_o give_v they_o a_o dispensation_n for_o act_v in_o office-work_n elsewhere_o until_o fresh_a instruction_n come_v but_o ordinary_a officer_n have_v no_o such_o direction_n from_o the_o lord_n or_o any_o thing_n equivalent_a to_o they_o and_o so_o be_v oblige_v to_o perform_v act_n of_o office_n to_o all_o church_n in_o the_o world_n and_o sin_n if_o they_o do_v not_o according_a to_o he_o for_o they_o have_v no_o dispensation_n from_o the_o lord_n for_o act_v in_o any_o and_o without_o that_o they_o must_v act_v to_o the_o utmost_a bound_n of_o their_o relation_n 3._o apostle_n be_v not_o so_o limit_v and_o confine_v in_o their_o office_n unto_o those_o which_o especial_o be_v commit_v to_o they_o as_o ordinary_a officer_n be_v to_o their_o particular_a church_n the_o gospel_n of_o the_o uncircumcision_n be_v commit_v to_o paul_n and_o the_o gospel_n
ordinance_n appoint_v for_o his_o good_a be_v according_a to_o mr._n poole_n a_o church-member_n but_o he_o who_o be_v excommunicate_a for_o blasphemy_n deny_v christ_n etc._n etc._n be_v under_o a_o church-ordinance_n for_o his_o good_a ergo_fw-la according_a to_o mr._n pool_n he_o who_o be_v excomunicate_v for_o blasphemy_n deny_v christ_n etc._n etc._n be_v a_o church-member_n and_o that_o the_o same_o ordinance_n of_o excommunication_n do_v pass_v upon_o some_o and_o cut_v they_o off_o from_o church-membership_a and_o pass_v upon_o other_o and_o leave_v they_o member_n still_o let_v he_o prove_v 4._o neither_o they_o in_o their_o jus_fw-la divin_n min._n nor_o we_o in_o our_o former_a book_n do_v speak_v of_o the_o cease_n of_o baptism_n as_o to_o the_o actual_a privilege_n of_o it_o or_o as_o to_o man_n account_n only_o or_o chief_o but_o about_o the_o cease_n of_o the_o water_n baptism_n itself_o and_o therefore_o what_o mr._n pool_n s●ith_o p._n 27._o be_v altogether_o beside_o the_o question_n neither_o do_v his_o instance_n of_o circumcision_n help_v he_o for_o if_o any_o turn_v heathen_a or_o idolater_n and_o renounce_v his_o circumcision_n yet_o he_o remain_v a_o circumcise_a person_n and_o his_o circumcision_n may_v be_v a_o witness_n against_o he_o though_o he_o be_v to_o be_v repute_v as_o a_o heathen_a while_o such_o and_o so_o we_o apprehend_v though_o a_o baptize_v person_n cease_v by_o excommunication_n to_o be_v a_o member_n of_o any_o visible_a church_n yet_o this_o baptism_n cease_v not_o but_o if_o it_o do_v real_o cease_v as_o they_o say_v it_o do_v rebaptise_v will_v necessary_o be_v infer_v 5._o if_o baptism_n itself_o about_o which_o the_o question_n be_v do_v cease_v upon_o the_o cessation_n of_o membership_n in_o the_o visible_a church_n that_o upon_o the_o person_n repentance_n the_o lord_n shall_v impute_v his_o former_a baptism_n to_o he_o be_v such_o a_o notion_n as_o to_o use_v his_o own_o phrase_n in_o scripture_n there_o be_v ne_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d quidem_fw-la of_o any_o such_o thing_n 6._o if_o a_o man_n cease_v to_o be_v a_o member_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n shall_v make_v his_o baptism_n cease_v upon_o its_o be_v the_o door_n of_o admission_n into_o that_o as_o they_o assert_v then_o a_o pari_fw-la a_o man_n cease_v to_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n by_o excommunication_n or_o otherwise_o will_v make_v his_o baptism_n ceasesupon_o its_o be_v the_o door_n of_o admission_n into_o that_o &_o so_o rebaptise_v must_v follow_v upon_o readmission_n so_o that_o this_o fall_v heavy_a upon_o their_o principle_n but_o it_o touch_v not_o we_o because_o we_o deny_v baptism_n to_o be_v the_o door_n of_o admission_n into_o an●_n church_n and_o this_o answer_v what_o he_o say_v pag._n 27._o he_o say_v pag._n 28._o we_o grant_v that_o baptism_n be_v a_o sign_n of_o a_o man_n admission_n to_o the_o church_n reply_n he_o much_o mistake_v we_o for_o we_o do_v not_o grant_v that_o its_o sacramental_a use_n be_v to_o be_v a_o sign_n of_o admission_n into_o the_o church_n but_o in_o regard_n church-member-ship_n be_v pre-required_n unto_o baptism_n hence_o as_o thing_n consequential_a be_v sign_n of_o what_o be_v antecedent_n and_o fruit_n a_o sign_n of_o a_o tree_n so_o baptism_n if_o orderly_o administer_v be_v a_o sign_n of_o admission_n into_o a_o church_n we_o grant_v it_o to_o be_v a_o sign_n of_o one_o be_v engage_v for_o the_o profession_n of_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n he_o ask_v pag._n 28._o what_o be_v a_o church_n but_o a_o company_n of_o man_n profess_v the_o name_n of_o christ_n reply_n 1._o we_o speak_v only_o of_o a_o subsequent_a sign_n which_o presupposech_v his_o be_v admit_v into_o the_o church_n and_o be_v engage_v for_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n and_o so_o be_v not_o the_o door_n of_o admission_n 2._o a_o company_n of_o unbaptised_a person_n may_v profess_v the_o name_n of_o christ_n ergo_fw-la according_a to_o mr._n pool_n they_o be_v a_o church_n and_o then_o baptism_n can_v be_v the_o door_n of_o admission_n into_o the_o church_n we_o say_v baptism_n make_v not_o a_o man_n to_o stand_v in_o relation_n to_o any_o church_n by_o which_o we_o intend_v only_o this_o that_o baptism_n do_v not_o admit_v a_o man_n into_o any_o church_n mr._n pool_n pag._n 28_o call_v this_o a_o monstrous_a paradox_n which_o shall_v not_o have_v be_v dictate_v without_o any_o proof_n etc._n etc._n reply_n we_o have_v not_o mere_o dictate_v it_o but_o have_v give_v clear_a proof_n for_o it_o preacher_n send_v pag._n 284._o 286._o 292_o 293._o himself_n grant_v that_o both_o infant_n and_o otner_n be_v church-member_n inchoate_v before_o baptism_n pag._n 24._o church-membership_a be_v a_o relation_n and_o as_o it_o be_v gross_o improper_a to_o say_v that_o a_o man_n be_v a_o father_n or_o master_n etc._n etc._n inchoate_n but_o not_o a_o complete_a father_n or_o master_n so_o its_o improper_a to_o say_v that_o one_o be_v enchoate_n only_o a_o church-member_n and_o therefore_o they_o be_v admit_v not_o by_o but_o before_o baptism_n but_o that_o baptism_n do_v not_o make_v man_n member_n of_o the_o church_n be_v large_o prove_v in_o the_o answer_n of_o new-england_n elder_n to_o the_o 32._o question_n pag._n 12_o to_o 20._o ob._n 1._o we_o be_v all_o baptize_v into_o one_o body_n 1_o corin._n 12._o 13._o by_o which_o it_o be_v most_o evident_a that_o baptism_n give_v a_o man_n relation_n to_o some_o body_n etc._n etc._n mr._n pool_n pag._n 28._o ans_fw-fr the_o whole_a stress_n of_o this_o argument_n depend_v upon_o translate_n the_o preposition_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d into_o whereas_o it_o be_v frequent_o use_v to_o signify_v in_o be_v mat._n 2._o ver_fw-la 23._o he_o come_v and_o dwell_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o a_o city_n etc._n etc._n so_o 1_o peter_n 5._o 12._o act_n 2._o 27._o luke_n 11._o 7._o mark_v 1._o v._o 9_o be_v baptize_v of_o john_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o jordan_n and_o hence_o v._o 5._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o river_n jordan_n that_o which_o be_v express_v by_o i●_n in_o one_o verse_n be_v express_v by_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o other_o all_o which_o clear_o show_v that_o no_o argument_n can_v be_v ground_v upon_o its_o signify_v into_o and_o if_o it_o be_v render_v in_o as_o often_o it_o be_v in_o other_o text_n than_o his_o argument_n come_v to_o nothing_o whether_o it_o be_v the_o visible_a or_o invisible_a church_n that_o be_v there_o intend_a for_o it_o run_v thus_o by_o one_o spirit_n we_o be_v all_o baptize_v in_o one_o body_n &_o then_o they_o be_v first_o in_o that_o body_n &_o baptize_v after_o &_o so_o baptism_n be_v not_o the_o door_n of_o admission_n or_o do_v not_o give_v relation_n to_o that_o body_n 2._o a_o antecedent_n entrance_n into_o a_o relation_n be_v usual_o express_v by_o a_o subsequent_a adjunct_n of_o that_o relation_n as_o a_o entrance_n into_o kingly_a government_n be_v express_v by_o coronation_n and_o gen._n 45._o 10._o the_o sceptre_n shall_v not_o depart_v etc._n etc._n i._n c._n there_o shall_v be_v one_o to_o bear_v the_o sceptre_n there_o become_v governor_n be_v denote_v by_o a_o sceptre_n which_o be_v a_o subsequent_a sign_n of_o government_n so_o if_o 〈◊〉_d be_v render_v into_o yet_o it_o may_v be_v only_o a_o adjunct_n privilege_n of_o church-membership_a and_o not_o that_o which_o make_v to_o stand_v in_o relation_n to_o any_o body_n or_o church_n 3._o there_o be_v different_a gift_n and_o grace_n in_o the_o member_n of_o the_o mystical_a body_n of_o christ_n and_o therefore_o these_o can_v prove_v it_o a_o organical_a political_a body_n yet_o what_o do_v the_o apostle_n say_v more_o of_o this_o one_o body_n but_o whatever_o the_o body_n be_v the_o relation_n thereto_o be_v not_o prove_v to_o be_v by_o baptism_n as_o mr._n cartwright_n observe_v on_o gal._n 3._o 27._o where_o we_o be_v say_v to_o put_v on_o christ_n by_o baptism_n it_o be_v the_o usual_a phrase_n of_o the_o scripture_n which_o give_v that_o unto_o the_o sarcrament_n which_o be_v due_a unto_o the_o thing_n whereof_o it_o be_v a_o sacrament_n so_o here_o ob._n 2._o that_o which_o make_v a_o man_n visible_o stand_v in_o relation_n to_o christ_n that_o make_v he_o visible_o to_o stand_v in_o relation_n to_o the_o church_n but_o baptism_n make_v a_o man_n visible_o to_o stand_v in_o relation_n to_o christ_n ergo_fw-la answ_n both_o proposition_n be_v false_a 1._o his_o major_n be_v untrue_a because_o a_o visible_a relation_n to_o christ_n must_v precede_v or_o go_v before_o a_o visible_a relation_n to_o the_o church_n for_o none_o but_o visible_a saint_n or_o believer_n be_v to_o be_v admit_v into_o church_n relation_n act_v 2._o v._o 47._o they_o be_v save_v once_o i._n e._n
brethren_n as_o we_o show_v preacher_n send_v p._n 326._o as_o to_o what_o he_o say_v pag._n 142_o to_o tit._n 1._o 5._o we_o answer_v we_o do_v not_o call_v ordination_n a_o unnecessary_a adjunct_n the_o apostle_n pain_n may_v have_v be_v very_o useful_a in_o other_o place_n when_o yet_o the_o lord_n will_v have_v they_o abide_v at_o jerusalem_n and_o so_o titus_n at_o crete_n the_o set_n in_o order_n thing_n that_o be_v want_v be_v express_o and_o first_o mention_v as_o the_o cause_n of_o titus_n his_o stay_n at_o crete_n and_o as_o that_o concern_v but_o the_o well-being_n of_o the_o church_n no_o more_o do_v ordain_v of_o elder_n in_o every_o city_n for_o church_n have_v a_o be_v before_o officer_n act_n 14._o 23._o and_o if_o titus_n himself_o have_v act_v in_o neither_o of_o these_o work_n but_o only_o have_v take_v the_o oversight_n of_o those_o church_n and_o direct_v they_o therein_o yet_o it_o will_v have_v be_v necessary_a enough_o especial_o in_o that_o infant_n state_n of_o the_o church_n that_o titus_n shall_v a_o bide_v at_o crete_n but_o doubtless_o he_o have_v preach_v work_n enough_o there_o which_o be_v great_a than_o his_o ordain_v elder_n ob._n 2._o from_o the_o nature_n of_o election_n deu._n 1._o 13._o look_n what_o moses_n be_v to_o the_o jew_n that_o be_v minister_n unto_o the_o church_n etc._n etc._n here_o be_v no_o difference_n at_o all_o in_o the_o power_n and_o authority_n of_o moses_n and_o minister_n only_o the_o one_o be_v civil_a the_o other_o ecclesiastical_a mr._n pool_n p._n 143._o answ_n 1._o the_o commonwealth_n of_o the_o jew_n be_v a_o thearchy_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o legislative_a part_n of_o government_n but_o it_o be_v a_o monarchy_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o executive_a part_n and_o moses_n the_o monarch_n thereof_o the_o spiritual_a commonwealth_n or_o minister_n not_o so_o 2._o the_o power_n of_o moses_n be_v supreme_a all_o other_o power_n subordinate_a unto_o he_o the_o power_n of_o spiritual_a officer_n not_o so_o 3._o moses_n have_v power_n to_o appoint_v officer_n of_o a_o new_a species_n under_o he_o exod._n 18._o ver_fw-la 24._o minister_n not_o so_o 4._o christ_n be_v compare_v with_o moses_n heb._n 3._o not_o so_o with_o minister_n of_o the_o gospel_n 5._o moses_n be_v over_o babe_n and_o such_o as_o be_v under_o tutor_n and_o governor_n minister_n over_o a_o free_a people_n 6._o yet_o moses_n give_v to_o the_o people_n those_o that_o they_o give_v to_o he_o so_o christ_n the_o king_n 15._o d._n 1._o v._n 13._o 15._o of_o saint_n give_v unto_o his_o church_n those_o that_o according_a to_o his_o direction_n they_o choose_v that_o freeman_n in_o a_o corporation_n give_v the_o essential_o of_o a_o call_v to_o their_o officer_n etc._n etc._n be_v enough_o to_o show_v that_o such_o as_o have_v no_o office-power_n yet_o frequent_o do_v make_v officer_n which_o answer_v the_o provinc_fw-la ass_n especial_o see_v they_o ground_n their_o objection_n upon_o a_o general_a rule_n nihil_fw-la that_fw-mi quod_fw-la non_fw-la habet_fw-la etc._n etc._n that_o christ_n free-people_n may_v have_v office-power_n eminent_o in_o they_o as_o well_o as_o those_o instance_a in_o be_v enough_o for_o we_o here_o we_o be_v in_o the_o defensive_a part_n but_o whereas_o he_o call_v p._n 144._o for_o divine_a institution_n we_o reply_v 1._o many_o like_a instance_n lie_n give_v and_o we_o have_v as_o good_a reason_n to_o call_v for_o a_o divine_a institution_n there_o as_o when_o he_o tell_v we_o pag._n 7._o of_o a_o vast_a number_n of_o sheep_n commit_v to_o twenty_o shepherd_n &c_n &c_n and_o p._n 8._o of_o a_o general_a relation_n to_o the_o whole_a empire_n &_o a_o special_a respect_n to_o their_o own_o territory_n we_o crave_v a_o divine_a institution_n for_o any_o such_o order_n in_o the_o church_n and_o so_o for_o his_o instance_n pag._n 131._o 132_o about_o a_o presentation_n and_o the_o archbishop_n and_o a_o d●_n of_o physic_n and_o 137._o 138._o of_o a_o corporation_n a_o court_n of_o alderman_n etc._n etc._n let_v he_o show_v a_o divine_a institution_n that_o it_o be_v so_o in_o the_o church_n and_o why_o do_v he_o require_v of_o we_o and_o not_o give_v it_o himself_o the_o use_n of_o such_o example_n be_v to_o clear_v some_o general_a rule_n to_o illustrate_v and_o to_o show_v that_o there_o be_v case_n parallel_v and_o we_o go_v thus_o far_o 2._o we_o give_v a_o institution_n in_o our_o argument_n to_o prove_v that_o election_n give_v the_o essence_n of_o the_o call_n as_o to_o minister_n be_v before_o the_o church_n we_o sufficient_o disprove_v it_o in_o our_o former_a book_n pag._n 303_o 304._o it_o be_v evident_a that_o church_n be_v before_o elder_n act._n 14._o 23._o it_o concern_v he_o to_o prove_v that_o any_o ordinary_a elder_n be_v before_o a_o church_n and_o that_o they_o act_n as_o officer_n to_o such_o as_o be_v no_o church_n else_o he_o say_v nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n that_o church_n to_o be_v be_v gather_v and_o baptize_v by_o they_o 〈◊〉_d answer_v in_o the_o place_n even_o now_o quote_v to_o prove_v that_o the_o essence_n of_o the_o call_v i_o do_v consist_v in_o ordination_n they_o use_v five_o argument_n he_o plead_v for_o two_o of_o they_o the_o former_a be_v take_v from_o 2_o tim._n 1._o 6._o stir_n up_o the_o gift_n of_o god_n which_o be_v in_o thou_o 1_o tim._n 4._o 14._o neglect_n not_o the_o gift_n that_o be_v in_o thou_o etc._n etc._n object_n he_o say_v 1._o it_o be_v a_o ordinary_a presbytery_n 2._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v use_v for_o office_n as_o well_o as_o gift_n 3._o that_o a_o man_n may_v be_v say_v to_o stir_v up_o his_o office_n and_o office_n may_v be_v say_v to_o be_v in_o a_o man_n 4._o that_o a_o extraordinary_a office_n may_v be_v convey_v by_o ordinary_a officer_n who_o be_v inferior_a to_o he_o 5._o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v use_v for_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o other_o place_n 6._o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d may_v be_v understand_v of_o the_o gift_n 2_o tim._n 1._o 6._o and_o of_o the_o office_n 1_o tim._n 4._o 14._o mr._n pool_n from_o pag._n 146._o to_o 151._o answ_n 1._o that_o it_o be_v a_o ordinary_a presbytery_n be_v not_o prove_v extraordinary_a officer_n be_v presbyter_n 2._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d common_o signify_v a_o absolute_a gift_n &_o its_o questionable_a whether_o it_o be_v use_v any_o where_o for_o office_n 3._o it_o be_v a_o stir_v up_o as_o fire_n and_o it_o be_v very_o improper_a to_o say_v that_o office_n be_v so_o stir_v up_o especial_o see_v the_o gift_n be_v say_v to_o be_v in_o he_o which_o be_v not_o true_a of_o office_n though_o a_o man_n may_v be_v say_v to_o be_v in_o that_o which_o be_v in_o he_o as_o be_v swallow_v up_o or_o overcome_v thereby_o as_o a_o man_n in_o sin_n in_o bear_n or_o drink_v in_o joy_n etc._n etc._n yet_o it_o can_v with_o any_o propriety_n of_o speech_n be_v say_v that_o be_v in_o a_o man_n which_o be_v but_o upon_o he_o office_n be_v only_o adherent_a to_o a_o man_n not_o inherent_a or_o in_o he_o it_o be_v very_o improper_a to_o say_v to_o a_o major_n bailiff_n justice_n constable_n etc._n etc._n stir_v up_o the_o office_n that_o be_v in_o you_o 4._o if_o a_o extraordinary_a office_n may_v be_v convey_v by_o ordinary_a officer_n which_o be_v not_o prove_v yet_o their_o argument_n be_v of_o no_o force_n unless_o he_o can_v prove_v that_o it_o be_v do_v here_o what_o he_o add_v pag._n 149_o of_o its_o be_v ordinary_a in_o state_n and_o church_n for_o a_o person_n to_o have_v a_o office_n convey_v to_o he_o ministerial_o by_o such_o as_o be_v inferior_a to_o he_o etc._n etc._n do_v plain_o contradict_v what_o himself_o say_v p._n 138._o 160._o that_o the_o less_o be_v call_v of_o the_o great_a and_o by_o this_o rule_n though_o the_o people_n be_v inferior_a to_o their_o officer_n yet_o they_o may_v convey_v their_o office_n to_o they_o his_o instance_n of_o a_o king_n who_o office_n be_v convey_v by_o some_o of_o his_o subject_n if_o true_a prove_v that_o those_o who_o be_v place_v in_o a_o state_n of_o subjection_n yet_o may_v have_v authority_n enough_o to_o give_v the_o essence_n to_o their_o officer_n and_o so_o answer_v what_o he_o say_v pag._n 139._o 5._o it_o be_v seldom_o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v use_v for_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o there_o be_v no_o evidence_n that_o it_o must_v be_v so_o take_v here_o 6._o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v use_v for_o gift_n 2_o tim._n 1._o 6._o and_o for_o office_n 1_o tim._n 4._o 14._o be_v altogether_o without_o proof_n or_o probility_n of_o truth_n for_o as_o the_o phrase_n be_v improper_a neglect_v
how_o these_o arguing_n agree_v we_o know_v not_o object_n 2._o no_o doubt_v they_o be_v the_o first-born_a that_o do_v lay_v hand_n on_o the_o levite_n ans_fw-fr this_o be_v full_o answer_v preacher_n send_v pag._n 344._o most_o that_o he_o say_v from_o pag._n 157_o to_o 161._o be_v either_o inconsiderable_a or_o answrable_a or_o answer_v before_o object_n 1._o we_o hear_v not_o a_o syllable_n of_o the_o people_n concurrence_n in_o ordination_n etc._n etc._n p._n 158._o paul_n in_o all_o his_o epistle_n to_o the_o church_n speak_v not_o a_o word_n about_o ordination_n sure_o the_o scripture_n silence_n be_v argumentative_a p._n 159._o ans_fw-fr if_o this_o will_v stand_v many_o of_o his_o principle_n must_v fall_v for_o we_o hear_v not_o a_o syllable_n in_o holy_a write_v of_o the_o subordination_n of_o a_o church_n of_o christ_n in_o point_n of_o government_n unto_o assembly_n make_v up_o of_o the_o officer_n of_o other_o church_n nor_o of_o the_o subordination_n of_o synod_n one_o to_o another_o nor_o of_o its_o be_v a_o ordinary_a presbytery_n which_o be_v mention_v 1_o tim._n 4._o 14._o nay_o there_o be_v not_o a_o word_n in_o scripture_n for_o a_o ordinary_a officer_n act_v in_o ordination_n out_o of_o the_o particular_a church_n he_o be_v over_o upon_o a_o ordinary_a call_n and_o so_o the_o scripture_n silence_n be_v as_o much_o argumentative_a in_o case_n a_o church_n have_v no_o officer_n in_o it_o against_o ordination_n by_o officer_n of_o other_o church_n our_o officer_n as_o against_o ordination_n by_o the_o people_n object_n 2._o there_o be_v the_o same_o reason_n for_o the_o apostle_n be_v a_o precedent_n for_o minister_n baptise_v and_o not_o the_o people_n and_o for_o their_o ordain_v and_o not_o the_o people_n pag._n 158._o ans_fw-fr we_o have_v reason_n against_o the_o people_n baptise_v which_o be_v not_o fetch_v from_o the_o precedent_n of_o the_o apostle_n baptise_v and_o which_o speak_v not_o against_o the_o people_n act_v in_o ordination_n when_o a_o church_n be_v without_o officer_n as_o for_o baptism_n be_v a_o part_n of_o worship_n only_o by_o institution_n which_o as_o worship_n the_o people_n be_v not_o where_o warrant_v to_o perform_v in_o the_o act_n of_o it_o whereas_o the_o essential_a act_n of_o ordination_n be_v prayer_n which_o though_o require_v by_o gospel_n rule_v on_o that_o occasion_n yet_o in_o itself_o be_v a_o act_n of_o natual_a worship_n which_o the_o people_n may_v perform_v so_o baptism_n be_v a_o seal_n of_o the_o covenant_n etc._n etc._n ob._n 3._o we_o never_o find_v ordination_n practise_v but_o by_o person_n in_o authority_n towards_o their_o inferior_n pag._n 160._o ans_fw-fr 1._o then_o 1_o tim._n 4._o 14._o can_v speak_v of_o ordination_n by_o a_o ordinary_a presbytery_n for_o timothy_n be_v a_o extraordinary_a officer_n and_o so_o be_v not_o inferior_a to_o a_o ordinary_a presbytery_n either_o this_o or_o else_o what_o he_o say_v p._n 149._o 154._o must_v be_v false_a 2._o we_o never_o 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glad_o receive_v the_o word_n act_n 2._o 37._o 41._o a_o bare_a profession_n where_o that_o also_o be_v a_o carnal_a engagement_n be_v not_o so_o signal_n in_o the_o hundred_o part_n his_o easy_a answer_n to_o our_o question_n concern_v trial_n of_o grace_n in_o order_n to_o communion_n in_o the_o supper_n and_o not_o to_o church_n communion_n be_v indeed_o as_o he_o call_v it_o a_o easy_a answer_n we_o no_o where_n find_v say_v he_o let_v a_o man_n examine_v himself_o and_o so_o come_v into_o the_o fellowship_n of_o the_o church_n he_o think_v the_o 3000._o and_o the_o 5000._o have_v scarce_o any_o leisure_n before_o their_o admission_n to_o do_v it_o thorough_o answ_n commendable_a be_v that_o fear_n act_n 5._o 11._o not_o only_o the_o fear_n of_o the_o church_n but_o of_o other_o also_o ne_fw-la laederent_fw-la hunc_fw-la caetum_fw-la nec_fw-la contemnerent_fw-la nec_fw-la
question_n it_o must_v have_v be_v ergo_fw-la office_n be_v a_o relation_n to_o the_o work_n and_o employment_n of_o the_o ministry_n as_o its_o correlate_n arg._n 2._o the_o correlate_n to_o any_o relation_n be_v that_o wherein_o the_o subject_n be_v termniate_v vincentio_n revi_fw-la but_o the_o office_n of_o the_o ministry_n be_v terminate_v pag._n 12._o in_o the_o work_n therefore_o the_o work_n be_v its_o correlate_n answ_n 1._o a_o illogicall_a argument_n in_o the_o major_a the_o subject_n of_o the_o relation_n be_v remember_v in_o the_o minor_a it_o be_v forget_v and_o the_o relation_n itself_o put_v in_o the_o place_n thereof_o if_o it_o be_v in_o form_n it_o must_v run_v thus_o the_o correlate_n to_o any_o relation_n be_v that_o wherein_o the_o subject_n be_v terminate_v but_o the_o subject_n of_o office_n relation_n be_v terminate_v in_o the_o work_n ergo_fw-la work_n be_v the_o correlate_n answ_n 2._o if_o his_o major_n be_v understand_v universal_o viz._n that_o the_o correlate_n to_o any_o relation_n be_v any_o thing_n wherein_o the_o subject_n be_v any_o way_n terminate_v we_o may_v fair_o deny_v this_o without_o deny_v all_o logic_n if_o it_o be_v take_v particular_o it_o be_v not_o conclusive_a against_o we_o we_o grant_v that_o the_o correlate_n to_o any_o relation_n be_v that_o wherein_o the_o subject_n be_v so_o terminate_v as_o the_o essence_n or_o be_v of_o the_o relation_n be_v introduce_v by_o its_o termination_n as_o a_o father_n be_v so_o terminate_v in_o a_o son_n or_o child_n that_o he_o have_v his_o be_v as_o a_o father_n in_o have_v a_o son_n or_o child_n and_o therefore_o a_o son_n or_o child_n be_v correlate_n &_o so_o in_o other_o such_o relation_n but_o the_o correlate_n to_o any_o relation_n be_v not_o that_o wherein_o the_o subject_n be_v terminate_v as_o the_o end_n of_o the_o relation_n for_o the_o end_n can_v be_v attain_v until_o the_o relation_n itself_o have_v a_o actual_a existence_n and_o exist_v it_o can_v without_o a_o correlate_n as_o the_o relation_n of_o a_o father_n be_v terminate_v in_o the_o work_n of_o a_o father_n as_o its_o end_n yet_o there_o must_v be_v a_o son_n or_o child_n in_o be_v before_o the_o do_n of_o that_o work_n and_o the_o same_o may_v be_v say_v of_o other_o relation_n as_o master_n and_o servant_n husband_n and_o wife_n etc._n etc._n and_o thus_o the_o work_n of_o the_o ministry_n be_v the_o end_n of_o that_o relation_n there_o must_v be_v a_o correlate_n in_o be_v before_o that_o work_n can_v be_v perform_v and_o so_o work_n can_v be_v the_o correlate_n if_o this_o will_v hold_v good_a in_o relation_n secundum_fw-la esse_fw-la that_o be_v enough_o in_o this_o matter_n to_o evidence_n his_o argument_n to_o be_v false_a for_o that_o run_v general_o the_o correlate_n to_o any_o relation_n etc._n etc._n and_o beside_o it_o do_v not_o yet_o appear_v that_o officer_n be_v relation_n secundum_fw-la dici_fw-la 2._o as_o to_o his_o minor_n we_o say_v the_o office_n of_o the_o ministry_n be_v not_o terminate_v in_o the_o work_n consider_v absolute_o but_o respective_o as_o the_o office_n of_o the_o mayor_n of_o norwich_n be_v not_o terminate_v in_o the_o work_n of_o a_o mayor_n or_o magistracy_n absolute_o and_o so_o for_o justice_n of_o the_o peace_n or_o other_o civil_a officer_n if_o they_o go_v out_o of_o the_o city_n corporation_n or_o county_n whereunto_o they_o be_v limit_v they_o can_v act_v as_o officer_n and_o therefore_o their_o office_n be_v terminate_v in_o their_o work_n in_o such_o a_o place_n or_o among_o such_o a_o people_n and_o thus_o the_o office_n of_o the_o ministry_n be_v terminate_v not_o in_o the_o work_n in_o general_n but_o with_o respect_n and_o reference_n unto_o such_o a_o people_n or_o such_o a_o church_n relata_fw-la sunt_fw-la aliorum_fw-la dr._n collings_n proceed_v in_o a_o reply_n to_o our_o four_o argument_n which_o show_v that_o work_n can_v be_v the_o correlate_n to_o the_o office_n in_o answer_n to_o the_o two_o first_o he_o say_v ob._n 1._o officer_n be_v relata_fw-la secundum_fw-la dici_fw-la not_o relata_fw-la secundum_fw-la esse_fw-la nominal_a relation_n not_o those_o that_o logician_n call_v real_a relation_n vind._n revind_n pag._n 14._o 15._o 16._o answ_n we_o suppose_v dr._n collings_n be_v the_o first_o that_o have_v rank_v officer_n who_o be_v to_o be_v over_o other_o among_o those_o that_o be_v relata_fw-la secundum_fw-la dici_fw-la we_o have_v not_o meet_v with_o any_o logician_n that_o have_v do_v in_o before_o he_o &_o the_o rule_n upon_o which_o our_o argument_n be_v build_v be_v know_v by_o all_o that_o be_v acquaint_v with_o logic_n to_o be_v true_a in_o such_o as_o be_v relata_fw-la secundum_fw-la esse_fw-la answ_n 2._o against_o its_o be_v a_o nominal_a relation_n we_o shall_v offer_v a_o argument_n or_o two_o arg._n 1._o if_o the_o office_n of_o the_o ministry_n have_v no_o absolute_a be_v nor_o do_v appertain_v to_o any_o other_o predicament_n beside_o that_o of_o relation_n than_o it_o be_v according_a to_o logician_n a_o relation_n secundum_fw-la esse_fw-la or_o a_o real_a relation_n but_o the_o office_n of_o the_o ministry_n have_v no_o absolute_a be_v nor_o do_v appertain_v to_o any_o other_o predicament_n beside_o that_o of_o relation_n ergo_fw-la the_o office_n of_o the_o ministry_n be_v according_a to_o logician_n a_o relation_n secundum_fw-la esse_fw-la the_o major_n none_o that_o be_v acquaint_v with_o logic_n can_v deny_v the_o minor_a appear_v because_o there_o be_v no_o other_o predicament_n that_o it_o be_v reducible_a to_o let_v he_o show_v to_o which_o if_o it_o may_v be_v refer_v we_o yet_o adhere_v to_o aristotle_n in_o this_o and_o seton_n who_o give_v a_o instance_n of_o predicamental_a relation_n give_v it_o in_o the_o office_n of_o magistracy_n &_o we_o suppose_v the_o office_n of_o the_o ministry_n be_v in_o the_o same_o predicament_n with_o that_o arg._n 2._o if_o officer_n qua_fw-la officer_n have_v their_o whole_a be_v in_o respect_n and_o reference_n unto_o other_o than_o office_n be_v a_o relation_n secundum_fw-la esse_fw-la but_o officer_n qua_fw-la officer_n have_v their_o whole_a be_v in_o respect_n &_o reference_n unto_o other_o ergo_fw-la office_n be_v a_o relation_n secundum_fw-la esse_fw-la the_o major_a he_o can_v deny_v the_o minor_a he_o except_v against_o ob._n but_o the_o essence_n of_o office_n lie_v not_o in_o its_o relation_n but_o in_o that_o authority_n wherewith_o the_o person_n be_v clothe_v by_o his_o ordination_n vind._n revind_n pag._n 14._o answ_n 1._o authority_n have_v no_o causal_n influence_n into_o office_n but_o flow_v from_o it_o and_o follow_v after_o it_o therefore_o the_o essence_n of_o office_n do_v not_o consist_v in_o it_o the_o london_n minister_n say_v church_n officer_n be_v the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o first_o recepticle_n or_o subject_n of_o church_n authority_n jus._n divin_n regim_fw-la pag._n 163._o if_o so_o than_o officer_n be_v before_o authority_n at_o lest_o prioritate_fw-la nature_n and_o then_o authority_n be_v but_o a_o adjunct_n which_o though_o a_o necessary_a concequent_a yet_o be_v no_o constituent_a consider_v master_n and_o scholar_n a_o tutor_n &_o pupil_n etc._n etc._n ans_fw-fr 2_o if_o this_o be_v true_a than_o it_o be_v possible_a for_o a_o relation_n to_o hold_v though_o every_o thing_n in_o the_o world_n shall_v cease_v which_o it_o shall_v stand_v refer_v to_o there_o may_v be_v a_o relation_n and_o yet_o nothing_o be_v relate_v to_o or_o else_o ordination_n in_o such_o a_o case_n must_v be_v lose_v it_o be_v not_o prove_v that_o a_o person_n can_v stand_v clothe_v with_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o ministerial_a relation_n if_o there_o be_v no_o church_n that_o he_o stand_v relate_v to_o ob._n 2._o relation_n exist_v and_o perish_v together_o as_o to_o the_o same_o degree_n of_o be_v a_o man_n be_v not_o actual_o a_o officer_n when_o he_o can_v do_v his_o office_n but_o the_o habit_n remain_v vind._n revind_n pag._n 14._o ans_fw-fr zabarel_n who_o he_o mentionethi_v against_o he_o who_o say_v non_fw-la est_fw-la relatio_fw-la nisi_fw-la interea_fw-la que_fw-la sunt_fw-la actu_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la enim_fw-la pater_fw-la nisi_fw-la qui_fw-la actu_fw-la filium_fw-la habeat_fw-la quo_fw-la fit_a ut_fw-la semper_fw-la necessarium_fw-la sit_fw-la uno_fw-la relativorum_fw-la existente_fw-la alterum_fw-la quoque_fw-la existere_fw-la zab._n de_fw-fr fac_fw-la a_o cap._n 3._o consider_v job_n to_o day_n he_o have_v child_n he_o be_v a_o father_n consider_v he_o to_o morrow_n he_o have_v no_o child_n he_o be_v no_o father_n when_o he_o have_v none_o it_o be_v possible_a he_o may_v afterward_o shall_v we_o say_v therefore_o he_o be_v potential_o or_o habitual_o a_o father_n his_o divide_v a_o officer_n into_o actual_a and_o potential_a be_v as_o the_o divide_n ens_fw-la into_o ens_fw-la &_o non_fw-la ens._n his_o instance_n about_o the_o mayor_n of_o norwich_n be_v
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to_o take_v it_o in_o the_o latitude_n for_o any_o communicable_a gift_n but_o it_o must_v be_v minister_v in_o a_o due_a way_n and_o order_n and_o upon_o a_o regular_a c●l●_n vind._n revind_n pag._n 55._o ans_fw-fr 1._o we_o do_v not_o limit_v it_o to_o the_o gift_n of_o preach_v but_o say_v that_o be_v one_o special_a gift_n intend_v 1_o pet._n 4._o v._n 11._o if_o any_o man_n speak_v etc._n etc._n and_o so_o it_o can_v be_v restained_a to_o this_o world_n good_n and_o the_o forego_n and_o follow_v exhortation_n be_v leave_v in_o general_a among_o the_o saint_n and_o a_o note_n of_o universality_n be_v use_v here_o v._o 10._o as_o every_o man_n etc._n etc._n hence_o the_o generality_n of_o those_o that_o have_v grace_n and_o the_o gift_n of_o scripture_n interpretation_n be_v command_v to_o mister_n that_o gift_n and_o hence_o gift_n can_v be_v restrain_v to_o office_n see_v many_o be_v so_o gift_v who_o be_v no_o officer_n and_o the_o gift_n of_o preach_v be_v a_o public_a gift_n 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it_o as_o in_o hear_v pray_v fast_a etc._n etc._n dr._n collings_n do_v suppose_v in_o some_o time_n the_o bare_a command_n of_o christ_n may_v make_v a_o officer_n vind._n revind_n pag._n 63._o we_o suppose_v at_o all_o time_n a_o preacher_n the_o command_a every_o man_n that_o have_v preach_v gift_n and_o grace_n to_o minister_v with_o they_o do_v determine_v that_o the_o oracle_n of_o god_n be_v commit_v to_o they_o and_o that_o it_o be_v god_n way_n and_o order_n that_o they_o shall_v be_v exercise_v in_o the_o work_n of_o preach_v as_o to_o what_o he_o say_v pag._n 52._o 53._o we_o answer_v the_o command_n of_o christ_n be_v a_o call_v it_o warrant_v their_o preach_n on_o the_o sabbath_n or_o lord_n day_n as_o well_o as_o at_o other_o time_n and_o whether_o gift_a person_n preach_v be_v a_o public_a ordinance_n for_o save_v of_o soul_n let_v the_o reader_n judge_v by_o our_o argument_n it_o be_v allow_v of_o and_o desire_v by_o the_o reformer_n of_o scotland_n for_o in_o their_o 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to_o be_v adminstration_n of_o public_a ordinance_n it_o be_v certain_a that_o those_o who_o be_v no_o officer_n even_o the_o multitude_n do_v public_o act_v in_o that_o synod_n act._n 15._o see_v vers_fw-la 12._o 22._o 23._o sure_o no_o judicious_a reader_n will_v think_v that_o there_o be_v weight_n in_o these_o exception_n as_o to_o heb._n 10._o v._o 25._o who_o can_v question_v its_o be_v a_o warrant_n for_o ordinary_a church_n assembly_n be_v it_o not_o a_o church_n or_o church_n that_o the_o epistle_n be_v write_v to_o will_v he_o deny_v church_n assembly_n to_o be_v public_a meeting_n be_v not_o exhortation_n the_o work_n enjoin_v in_o they_o be_v officer_n only_o put_v upon_o this_o work_n what_o syllable_n of_o proof_n be_v there_o in_o the_o text_n for_o any_o such_o assertion_n where_o do_v we_o allege_v this_o place_n for_o private_a meeting_n it_o be_v assert_v by_o some_o that_o by_o gift_n probable_o be_v mean_v office_n after_o show_v the_o improbillity_n of_o it_o diverse_a wave_n we_o add_v these_o word_n preach_v send_v p._n 59_o the_o apostle_n speak_v indefinite_o a_o gift_n and_o a_o indefinite_a proposition_n be_v equipollent_a usual_o to_o a_o universal_a and_o so_o it_o may_v be_v extend_v to_o all_o gift_n in_o general_a and_o therefore_o can_v without_o some_o special_a reason_n be_v restrain_v to_o one_o particular_a gift_n viz._n office_n dr._n collings_n seem_v to_o be_v much_o disturb_v at_o this_o he_o bring_v it_o up_o vind_n revind_n pag._n 55_o and_o 87._o and_o after_o misplace_v usual_o and_o add_v most_o he_o cry_v out_o it_o be_v no_o logic_n let_v he_o again_o look_v into_o keckerman_n syst._n log._n l._n 2._o c._n 〈◊〉_d who_o say_v a_o universal_a proposition_n be_v either_o definite_a or_o indefinite_a indefinitae_fw-la est_fw-la quae_fw-la habet_fw-la subjectum_fw-la universale_fw-la sine_fw-la nota_fw-la and_o he_o give_v this_o canon_n ●_z est_fw-la &_o indefinitarum_fw-la usus_fw-la ad_fw-la significandum_fw-la quod_fw-la praedicatum_fw-la subjecto_fw-la insit_fw-la non_fw-la quidem_fw-la semper_fw-la sed_fw-la plermunque_fw-la seu_fw-la ut_fw-la graeci_fw-la loquuntur_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ut_fw-la matres_fw-la sunt_fw-la indulgentes_fw-la ●imium_fw-la liberis_fw-la cretense_n sunt_fw-la mendaces_fw-la interdum_fw-la significatur_fw-la non_fw-la maxim●_n quidem_fw-la ex_fw-la parte_fw-la sed_fw-la multis_fw-la tamen_fw-la convenire_fw-la praedicatum_fw-la ut_fw-la heroum_fw-la silij_fw-la noxae_fw-la hispani_fw-la superstitio_fw-la &_o insolentes_fw-la etc._n etc._n we_o do_v not_o say_v that_o a_o indefinite_a proposition_n be_v always_o equipollent_a to_o a_o universal_a but_o usual_o and_o whether_o keckerman_o plerunque_fw-la &_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d do_v amount_v to_o as_o much_o as_o usual_o let_v the_o reader_n judge_n be_v not_o the_o scripture_n full_a of_o such_o logic_n 1_o tim._n 3._o 2._o a_o bishop_n must_v be_v blameless_a i_o e._n every_o bishop_n 1_o cor._n 11._o 28._o let_v a_o man_n examine_v himself_o i_o e._n every_o man_n who_o partake_v of_o the_o supper_n if_o the_o rule_n hold_v only_o in_o materia_fw-la necessaria_fw-la that_o be_v enough_o to_o prove_v that_o it_o be_v frequent_o usual_o or_o often_o of_o such_o a_o general_a importance_n and_o so_o gift_n can_v without_o special_a reason_n be_v limit_v here_o to_o one_o gift_n viz._n office_n chap._n iii_o contain_v a_o brief_a answer_n to_o the_o exception_n against_o our_o argument_n for_o gift_a person_n preach_v from_o a_o promise_n and_o the_o example_n of_o apollo_n and_o the_o scatter_a saint_n and_o the_o prophecy_n mention_v 1_o corin._n 14._o we_o urge_v other_o argument_n for_o the_o preach_n of_o of_o man_n without_o ordination_n arg._n 3_o from_o a_o gospel_n promise_n mat._n 25._o 29._o for_o unto_o every_o one_o that_o have_v shall_v be_v give_v etc._n etc._n preacher_n sent._n pag._n 62._o ob._n dr._n collings_n will_v infer_v that_o then_o man_n not_o 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ecclesiam_fw-la quae_fw-la jam_fw-la in_o corpus_fw-la collecta_fw-la est_fw-la &_o manet_fw-la a_o ministerio_fw-la circa_fw-la illos_fw-la qui_fw-la colligendi_fw-la caritativa_fw-la admonitione_n sivelint_fw-la as_o voctius_n tell_v jansenius_n desp_n caus_n pap._n l._n 2._o sect._n 1_o cap._n 10._o 3._o a_o particular_a exception_n be_v enough_o to_o limit_v any_o general_a rule_n some_o law_n of_o england_n run_v in_o general_a term_n yet_o by_o some_o particular_a proviso_n the_o university_n or_o some_o corporation_n be_v exempt_v from_o obedience_n to_o they_o all_o other_o not_o except_v will_v be_v liable_a to_o the_o penalty_n if_o they_o transgress_v the_o law_n so_o if_o a_o king_n promise_v a_o reward_n to_o every_o subject_n that_o shall_v do_v some_o notable_a service_n except_o those_o of_o some_o particular_a corporation_n it_o be_v plain_a that_o all_o not_o except_v have_v allowance_n to_o do_v the_o work_n and_o thereupon_o may_v expect_v the_o reward_n now_o the_o promise_n mat._n 25._o 29._o run_v in_o general_a term_n hence_o every_o man_n not_o except_v be_v to_o use_v his_o talent_n if_o by_o a_o particular_a exception_n the_o administration_n of_o sacrament_n be_v limit_v unto_o office_n yet_o this_o do_v not_o deny_v a_o liberty_n to_o use_v other_o talent_n and_o to_o expect_v the_o benefit_n of_o this_o promise_n in_o the_o use_n of_o they_o see_v it_o be_v say_v unto_o every_o one_o that_o have_v shall_v be_v give_v he_o grant_v that_o man_n may_v preach_v divers_a time_n as_o probationer_n when_o they_o be_v no_o officer_n but_o may_v not_o do_v the_o work_n of_o a_o magistrate_n or_o administer_v sacrament_n without_o those_o office_n ergo_fw-la the_o exercise_n of_o preach_v gift_n be_v more_o separable_a from_o office_n then_o the_o other_o we_o full_o answer_v this_o objection_n preacher_n sent._n pag._n 39_o 40._o 162._o and_o therefore_o let_v not_o the_o reader_n expect_v any_o further_a answer_n from_o we_o though_o dr._n collings_n often_o call_v this_o in_o to_o help_v he_o arg._n 4._o our_o
four_o argument_n be_v take_v from_o gospel_n precedent_n or_o example_n act._n 13._o 25._o etc._n etc._n apollo_n preach_v public_o yet_o be_v not_o ordain_v and_o the_o scatter_a saint_n act._n 8._o dr._n collings_n may_v see_v preacher_n sent._n p._n 66._o that_o we_o intend_v not_o gospel_n precedent_n by_o a_o extraordinary_a call_n and_o therefore_o what_o ●he_n say_v vind._n revind_n pag._n 57_o 58._o about_o apostleship_n the_o holy_a kiss_n etc._n etc._n be_v but_o to_o raise_v a_o mist_n before_o the_o eye_n of_o the_o reader_n ob._n in_o these_o instance_n there_o be_v not_o a_o parity_n 1._o in_o the_o species_n of_o their_o gift_n there_o may_v be_v office_n or_o extraordinary_a gift_n apollo_n be_v rank_v with_o paul_n and_o peter_n 1_o cor._n 1._o 12._o call_v a_o minister_n 1_o cor._n 3._o 5._o and_o be_v mighty_a in_o the_o scripture_n it_o be_v plain_a he_o preach_v only_o in_o order_n to_o office_n p._n 59_o the_o scatter_a christian_n be_v of_o the_o 8000._o who_o be_v fill_v with_o extraordinary_a gift_n act_n 4._o 31._o pag._n 60._o 2._o in_o the_o act_v nothing_o find_v to_o evidence_n that_o they_o act_v 8._o do_v preach_v in_o public_a assembly_n p._n 6._o 3._o in_o the_o state_n of_o the_o church_n it_o be_v a_o infant_n state_n and_o a_o persecute_a state_n they_o may_v be_v under_o a_o necessity_n o●_n precept_n those_o extraordinary_a gift_n may_v be_v attend_v with_o a_o praeceptive_a impression_n act_v 4._o 31._o there_o be_v necessitas_fw-la medij_fw-la there_o be_v no_o other_o ordinary_a mean_n of_o salvation_n for_o these_o people_n vind._n revind_n p._n 61._o 62._o ans_fw-fr 1._o apollo_n gift_n be_v not_o of_o a_o other_o species_n adam_n and_o abel_n not_o two_o species_n of_o man_n though_o adam_n by_o creation_n abel_n by_o generation_n nor_o the_o habit_n in_o adam_n a_o divers_a species_n from_o they_o in_o abel_n because_o they_o infuse_v these_o acquire_v if_o apollo_n gift_n have_v be_v infuse_v which_o yet_o be_v not_o grant_v this_o will_v not_o prove_v they_o of_o a_o divers_a species_n but_o his_o be_v mighty_a in_o the_o scripture_n make_v it_o probable_a that_o he_o receive_v they_o in_o a_o ordinary_a way_n as_o now_o a_o day_n viz._n by_o the_o scripture_n and_o not_o otherways_o as_o the_o doctor_n argue_v he_o wrong_v himself_o and_o we_o in_o affirm_v pag._n 59_o that_o we_o say_v nothing_o to_o this_o but_o let_v those_o who_o say_v it_o prove_v it_o the_o contrary_n may_v be_v see_v preacher_n sent._n p._n 71._o 72._o 73._o yet_o it_o be_v a_o endless_a work_n to_o answer_v the_o groundless_a surmise_n of_o man_n we_o have_v reason_n to_o desire_v proof_n but_o apollo_n know_v only_o the_o baptism_n of_o john_n act_v 18._o 25._o ergo_fw-la apollo_n neither_o have_v extraordinary_a gift_n nor_o do_v preach_v in_o order_n to_o office_n or_o ordination_n for_o without_o know_v more_o than_o the_o baptism_n of_o john_n he_o can_v not_o know_v these_o which_o belong_v to_o the_o baptism_n of_o 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which_o we_o be_v now_o speak_v can_v not_o put_v they_o under_o any_o such_o preceptive_a impression_n as_o may_v render_v their_o preach_v lawful_a now_o which_o in_o a_o settle_a state_n of_o the_o church_n will_v be_v unlawful_a and_o upon_o this_o supposition_n that_o it_o be_v the_o will_n of_o god_n his_o gospel_n shall_v at_o that_o time_n be_v make_v know_v to_o those_o people_n no_o such_o necessity_n as_o he_o talk_v of_o will_v be_v evince_v from_o it_o if_o church_n have_v lose_v their_o officer_n by_o persecution_n there_o be_v a_o great_a colour_n for_o such_o a_o plea_n but_o here_o the_o case_n be_v otherways_o for_o the_o apostle_n who_o be_v officer_n be_v not_o scatter_v neither_o be_v it_o the_o persecute_a church_n that_o be_v preach_v to_o but_o other_o how_o mens_fw-la be_v persecute_v from_o their_o habitation_n can_v render_v their_o preach_v lawful_a which_o otherwise_o be_v not_o or_o lay_v they_o under_o either_o a_o natural_a or_o moral_a necessity_n to_o 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that_o probationer_n who_o be_v no_o officer_n may_v preach_v if_o it_o shall_v be_v not_o ordinary_o but_o occasional_o or_o only_o once_o see_v they_o will_v not_o allow_v they_o to_o baptise_v so_o much_o as_o once_o this_o be_v enough_o to_o prove_v from_o their_o practice_n that_o if_o baptise_v be_v a_o act_n peculiar_a to_o office_n yet_o it_o will_v not_o follow_v then_o preach_v be_v such_o and_o also_o that_o preach_a be_v not_o peculiar_a to_o office_n and_o so_o his_o except_v they_o out_o of_o the_o question_n can_v hinder_v the_o overthrow_n of_o his_o argument_n pag._n 92._o thereby_o that_o proper_a act_n quarto_fw-la modo_fw-la as_o he_o say_v these_o be_v pag._n 90._o shall_v admit_v of_o so_o much_o as_o one_o exception_n be_v strange_a logic_n and_o as_o much_o as_o to_o say_v they_o be_v peculiar_a to_o officer_n and_o yet_o not_o peculiar_a to_o they_o and_o therefore_o his_o exception_n pag._n 93_o can_v help_v he_o as_o to_o mat._n 28._o ver_fw-la 19_o 20._o 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have_v evidence_v the_o validity_n of_o our_o argument_n from_o the_o less_o to_o the_o great_a affirmative_o preach_v sent._n pag._n 225._o 226._o but_o if_o he_o like_v it_o not_o this_o way_n we_o have_v argue_v from_o this_o text_n for_o the_o people_n election_n from_o the_o less_o to_o the_o great_a negative_a pag._n 227._o and_o sure_o it_o will_v hold_v one_o of_o these_o way_n object_n 1._o that_o church_n act_v 6._o be_v the_o universal_a church_n as_o well_o as_o a_o particuliar_a church_n as_o adam_n though_o a_o particular_a man_n yet_o be_v at_o that_o time_n all_o mankind_n etc._n etc._n vind._n revind_n p._n 124._o answ_n nothing_o can_v be_v say_v to_o be_v both_o particular_a and_o universal_a 1._o universal_a and_o particular_a be_v distinct_a species_n as_o nothing_o be_v proper_a and_o common_a ordinary_a and_o extraordinary_a at_o the_o same_o time_n so_o nor_o universal_a and_o particular_a 2._o universal_a and_o particular_a be_v relata_fw-la nothing_o be_v 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church_n jus_fw-la diu._n min._n pag._n 139._o and_o mr._n poole_n say_v pag._n 25._o in_o scripture_n there_o be_v ne_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d quidem_fw-la of_o any_o other_o door_n of_o admission_n and_o call_v the_o contrary_a a_o monstrous_a paradox_n pag._n 28._o and_o how_o he_o can_v deny_v it_o to_o be_v their_o assertion_n or_o free_v himself_o from_o self-contradiction_n in_o these_o expression_n we_o know_v not_o for_o what_o difference_n be_v there_o between_o be_v made_n a_o church-member_n by_o baptism_n and_o be_v admit_v into_o the_o church_n by_o baptism_n and_o how_o can_v one_o be_v a_o church-member_n fore_o baptism_n and_o yet_o be_v admit_v into_o the_o church_n by_o baptism_n especial_o if_o there_o be_v not_o any_o other_o door_n of_o admission_n how_o can_v those_o that_o be_v within_o the_o church_n already_o be_v say_v without_o a_o loss_n of_o membership_n to_o be_v admit_v into_o it_o by_o any_o after_o act_v sure_o admission_n be_v of_o those_o who_o be_v without_o and_o no_o member_n not_o of_o those_o who_o be_v within_o and_o be_v church-member_n the_o scripture_n know_v no_o such_o thing_n as_o a_o be_v church-member_n inchoate_n either_o they_o be_v church-member_n or_o not_o if_o they_o be_v church-member_n as_o he_o confess_v they_o be_v before_o baptism_n than_o they_o be_v admit_v for_o membership_n presuppose_v admission_n 2._o as_o well_o may_v we_o say_v that_o man_n be_v officer_n by_o a_o church_n election_n before_o ordination_n and_o only_o the_o solemn_a admission_n into_o the_o office_n or_o rather_o exercise_v of_o it_o to_o be_v by_o ordination_n as_o he_o may_v assert_v a_o admission_n by_o baptism_n after_o membership_n and_o then_o the_o essence_n of_o the_o call_v to_o office_n be_v not_o in_o ordination_n 3._o if_o infant_n church-membership_a be_v as_o he_o say_v pag._n 24._o the_o ground_n of_o their_o baptism_n than_o they_o be_v visible_a church-member_n before_o their_o be_v baptise_a for_o the_o ground_n of_o a_o action_n must_v be_v visible_a before_o act_v and_o so_o their_o visible_a admission_n into_o the_o church_n be_v not_o by_o baptism_n but_o before_o it_o and_o in_o convert_n profession_n of_o faith_n which_o he_o suppose_v they_o church-member_n by_o must_v first_o be_v visible_a and_o so_o their_o visible_a admission_n into_o the_o church_n be_v antecedaneous_a to_o and_o be_v not_o by_o their_o baptism_n and_o as_o public_a as_o their_o profession_n be_v so_o public_a be_v their_o visible_a church-membership_a or_o admission_n into_o the_o church_n before_o baptism_n as_o to_o what_o follow_v pag._n 24._o 25._o we_o former_o do_v and_o still_o do_v deny_v that_o a_o minister_n eject_v a_o man_n just_o out_o of_o his_o own_o church_n eject_v he_o juridical_o out_o of_o all_o other_o church_n for_o this_o see_v our_o answer_n to_o dr._n collings_n epistle_n object_n if_o he_o be_v not_o juridical_o eject_v out_o of_o other_o church_n than_o he_o be_v in_o a_o capacity_n of_o be_v receive_v into_o other_o church_n which_o what_o horrid_a confusion_n it_o will_v introduce_v etc._n etc._n mr._n poole_n pag._n 24._o answ_n it_o will_v not_o follow_v for_o that_o sin_n which_o make_v the_o ejection_n just_a will_v make_v another_o church_n admission_n unjust_a yet_o mens_fw-la incapacity_n to_o be_v receive_v by_o other_o church_n do_v not_o arise_v from_o their_o be_v cast_v out_o of_o those_o church_n but_o from_o the_o want_n of_o such_o qualification_n as_o be_v perquisite_a to_o admission_n into_o church-fellowship_n he_o grant_v p._n 25._o that_o when_o a_o minister_n be_v juridical_o eject_v out_o of_o office_n in_o a_o particular_a church_n by_o deposition_n he_o cease_v to_o be_v a_o officer_n to_o the_o universal_a church_n whence_o we_o infer_v that_o if_o he_o repent_v and_o become_v a_o officer_n again_o he_o must_v have_v a_o new_a ordination_n or_o else_o he_o may_v of_o no_o officer_n become_v a_o officer_n without_o ordination_n and_o so_o ordination_n be_v not_o essential_a to_o office_n that_o which_o follow_v pag._n 25._o be_v but_o a_o repetition_n of_o what_o he_o have_v say_v and_o be_v answer_v before_o that_o such_o as_o be_v convert_v from_o heathenism_n may_v join_v as_o member_n to_o some_o church_n and_o so_o be_v baptize_v we_o prove_v preacher_n sent._n pag._n 289._o he_o repli_v nothing_o to_o the_o proof_n of_o it_o yet_o charge_v we_o for_o obtrude_a uncouth_a notion_n upon_o the_o world_n without_o evident_a proof_n etc._n etc._n and_o he_o that_o say_v pag._n 24._o they_o be_v church-member_n inchoate_v before_o baptism_n and_o who_o make_v so_o little_a a_o matter_n of_o admission_n into_o a_o particular_a church_n shall_v not_o stumble_v at_o this_o notion_n and_o what_o be_v say_v to_o show_v that_o admission_n be_v not_o by_o baptism_n will_v not_o be_v far_o from_o a_o proof_n of_o it_o our_o argument_n preacher_n sent._n pag._n 292._o plain_o show_v that_o their_o assertion_n run_v they_o upon_o anabaptism_n mr._n poole_n pag._n 26._o 27._o give_v a_o double_a reason_n against_o it_o 1._o that_o a_o excommunicate_a person_n ordinary_o be_v a_o church-member_n though_o a_o disease_a member_n 2_o thes_n 3._o etc._n etc._n 2._o though_o his_o baptism_n cease_v at_o present_a actual_o and_o real_o as_o to_o all_o the_o actual_a privilege_n of_o it_o so_o cease_v that_o while_n he_o repent_v not_o he_o be_v to_o be_v look_v upon_o after_o a_o sort_n as_o a_o unbaptised_a person_n yet_o when_o he_o do_v repent_v and_o readmit_v himself_o to_o the_o church_n he_o need_v no_o new_a baptism_n forasmuch_o as_o god_n be_v please_v to_o impute_v to_o he_o his_o former_a baptism_n and_o the_o church_n accept_v of_o it_o etc._n etc._n answ_n 1._o anabaptism_n unavoidable_o follow_v upon_o their_o assertion_n thus_o he_o that_o cease_v to_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n his_o baptism_n cease_v say_v they_o jus_n divin_n min._n pag._n 146._o but_o he_o that_o be_v excommunicate_a cease_v say_v they_o to_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n for_o they_o tell_v we_o excommunication_n eject_v out_o of_o that_o church_n jus_n divin_n min._n pag._n 139._o ergo_fw-la he_o that_o be_v excommunicate_a his_o baptism_n cease_v ergo_fw-la if_o he_o be_v readmit_v he_o must_v be_v rebaptise_v or_o else_o be_v in_o the_o church_n unbaptise_v sure_o mr._n poole_n will_v not_o say_v that_o one_o may_v be_v eject_v out_o of_o and_o yet_o remain_v a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n for_o it_o be_v a_o contradiction_n to_o say_v that_o one_o be_v out_o of_o and_o yet_o in_o the_o church_n at_o the_o same_o time_n and_o contrary_a to_o 1_o corin._n 5._o 12._o which_o prove_v that_o those_o who_o be_v without_o be_v not_o within_o yet_o he_o have_v no_o other_o way_n to_o save_v the_o london_n minister_n from_o the_o dint_n of_o the_o forego_n conclusion_n to_o help_v they_o out_o of_o this_o labyrinth_n mr._n poole_n tell_v we_o that_o a_o excommunicate_a person_n be_v a_o church-member_n still_o but_o this_o be_v not_o to_o defend_v but_o to_o contradict_v they_o who_o cause_n he_o undertake_v to_o to_o plead_v for_o they_o tell_v we_o a_o excommunicate_a person_n be_v eject_v out_o of_o the_o church_n and_o mr._n poole_n say_v he_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n still_o this_o therefore_o may_v suffice_v for_o the_o defence_n of_o what_o we_o have_v say_v but_o we_o shall_v add_v a_o few_o word_n 2._o it_o be_v the_o judgement_n of_o many_o that_o the_o withdraw_v mention_v 2_o thes_n 3._o ver_fw-la 6._o 14._o vast_o differ_v from_o excommunication_n because_o after_o the_o one_o a_o man_n be_v to_o be_v deem_v as_o a_o brother_n and_o after_o the_o other_o he_o be_v to_o be_v account_v as_o a_o heathen_a and_o a_o publican_n mat._n 18._o ver_fw-la 17._o and_o if_o so_o this_o be_v no_o proof_n that_o excommunicate_a person_n be_v church-member_n see_v the_o text_n speak_v nothing_o of_o excommunication_n but_o only_o of_o withdraw_v 3._o we_o observe_v his_o halt_n here_o he_o do_v not_o say_v a_o excommunicate_a person_n always_o but_o ordinary_o be_v a_o member_n as_o if_o excommunication_n do_v sometime_o make_v a_o man_n cease_v to_o be_v a_o church-member_n but_o ordinary_o not_o which_o there_o be_v no_o syllable_n in_o scripture_n for_o and_o much_o against_o it_o mat._n 18_o v._n 17._o excommunicate_a person_n be_v to_o be_v deem_v as_o heathen_n and_o publican_n ergo_fw-la not_o as_o church-member_n that_o such_o as_o be_v excommunicate_a for_o blasphemy_n deny_v christ_n to_o be_v the_o messiah_n or_o renounce_v some_o such_o grand_a article_n of_o faith_n shall_v still_o be_v a_o church-member_n be_v strange_a doctrine_n yet_o this_o must_v be_v or_o else_o his_o argument_n pag._n 26._o be_v nought_o for_o it_o may_v be_v say_v he_o who_o be_v under_o a_o church_n
etc._n the_o apostle_n be_v set_v in_o corinth_n though_o not_o limit_v or_o confine_v to_o that_o church_n all_o the_o strength_n of_o their_o argument_n from_o 1_o cor._n 12._o 28._o depend_v upon_o the_o apostle_n speak_v in_o the_o singular_a number_n the_o church_n have_v it_o be_v say_v god_n have_v set_v in_o the_o churches_n etc._n etc._n there_o can_v have_v be_v no_o shadow_n of_o a_o argument_n hence_o for_o their_o be_v officer_n to_o a_o universal_a church_n and_o see_v in_o the_o same_o chapter_n ver_fw-la 12._o 14._o 17._o etc._n etc._n he_o speak_v in_o the_o singular_a number_n the_o body_n the_o body_n and_o the_o whole_a body_n and_o yet_o all_o natural_a body_n do_v not_o make_v one_o body_n and_o ver_fw-la 18._o god_n set_v the_o member_n in_o the_o body_n etc._n etc._n yet_o there_o be_v no_o catholic_n body_n how_o can_v his_o speak_n in_o the_o singular_a number_n the_o church_n for_o 28._o and_o that_o in_o the_o application_n of_o the_o same_o similitude_n prove_v a_o catholic_n church_n make_v up_o of_o all_o church_n to_o evidence_n that_o the_o sin_n of_o a_o people_n may_v nullify_v the_o office_n of_o a_o minister_n which_o they_o deny_v jus_fw-la diu._n min._n pag._n 146_o we_o ask_v whether_o if_o they_o murder_v he_o will_v not_o this_o nullify_v his_o office_n and_o if_o so_o why_o may_v not_o their_o sin_n other_o way_n make_v void_a the_o office_n also_o object_n mr._n poole_n say_v we_o confound_v the_o nullify_n of_o the_o office_n and_o the_o hinder_v the_o exercise_n of_o it_o 2._o he_o demand_v whether_o this_o hold_n of_o the_o apostle_n or_o no_o whether_o if_o the_o catholic_a church_n be_v confine_v to_o one_o congregation_n and_o that_o prove_v heretical_a and_o vote_v down_o the_o apostle_n will_v this_o make_v their_o office_n null_n or_o no_o he_o say_v this_o follow_v upon_o our_o principle_n for_o the_o church_n the_o correlate_n cease_v they_o must_v needs_o cease_v also_o &_o ejusdem_fw-la est_fw-la 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that_o shall_v impartial_o read_v our_o book_n may_v see_v 2._o the_o apostle_n be_v extraordinary_a officer_n our_o question_n be_v only_o about_o ordinary_a officer_n the_o apostle_n be_v neither_o of_o man_n nor_o by_o man_n but_o be_v make_v by_o a_o extraordinary_a call_n of_o christ_n and_o so_o it_o do_v belong_v only_o to_o christ_n to_o null_n their_o office_n because_o ejusdem_fw-la est_fw-la instituere_fw-la &_o destituere_fw-la but_o we_o can_v but_o complain_v that_o mr._n poole_n have_v here_o offer_v abundance_n of_o wrong_n to_o we_o in_o report_v to_o the_o world_n that_o we_o say_v apostle_n be_v constitute_v officer_n by_o the_o church_n allege_v act._n 1._o and_o not_o content_v himself_o with_o sayit_n once_o he_o come_v over_o with_o it_o again_o towards_o the_o end_n of_o pag._n 32._o of_o his_o book_n whereas_o we_o have_v express_v the_o contrary_a and_o that_o in_o express_a term_n in_o speak_v to_o act_v 1._o which_o he_o say_v we_o allege_v for_o it_o let_v 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contradiction_n to_o any_o divine_a promise_n for_o god_n be_v faithful_a and_o therefore_o will_v restrain_v from_o every_o act_n that_o will_v render_v any_o promise_n void_a some_o supposition_n may_v be_v admit_v of_o but_o not_o such_o as_o be_v against_o promise_n otherwise_o we_o may_v answer_v he_o with_o a_o other_o himself_o suppose_v p._n 32._o that_o the_o catholic_a church_n may_v be_v confine_v to_o one_o congregation_n if_o the_o elder_n possible_o but_o two_o or_o three_o shall_v excommunicate_v that_o whole_a church_n they_o shall_v by_o this_o juridical_a act_n how_o un_fw-we just_a soever_o nullify_v the_o promise_n of_o the_o perpetuity_n of_o the_o church_n mat._n 16._o 18._o as_o much_o as_o by_o his_o supposition_n the_o people_n shall_v nullify_v the_o promise_n about_o officer_n in_o such_o a_o case_n two_o or_o three_o elder_n can_v be_v prove_v to_o be_v the_o universal_a church_n and_o officer_n to_o it_o also_o and_o if_o there_o be_v not_o a_o church_n &_o 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any_o choose_v by_o they_o etc._n etc._n the_o formality_n of_o episcopacy_n lie_v in_o this_o in_o the_o superiority_n of_o one_o pastor_n to_o another_o and_o to_o many_o other_o and_o of_o one_o church_n to_o all_o the_o rest_n in_o a_o diocese_n not_o in_o the_o superiority_n of_o a_o college_n of_o pastor_n or_o convention_n of_o church_n over_o one_o pastor_n or_o church_n etc._n etc._n mr._n poole_n pag._n 37._o 38._o a._n 1._o we_o know_v not_o that_o we_o have_v use_v that_o argument_n but_o only_o in_o the_o page_n even_o now_o quote_v and_o in_o neither_o of_o those_o place_n do_v we_o assert_v a_o government_n by_o a_o college_n of_o pastor_n to_o be_v episcopacy_n it_o be_v the_o superiority_n of_o one_o that_o we_o give_v that_o name_n unto_o and_o therefore_o most_o that_o he_o say_v here_o as_o about_o the_o low_a country_n not_o be_v a_o monarchy_n etc._n etc._n be_v but_o to_o make_v the_o reader_n believe_v that_o we_o speak_v what_o we_o do_v not_o 2._o as_o 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pre-eminence_n over_o diverse_a small_a particular_a congregation_n and_o such_o as_o plead_v against_o bishop_n speak_v the_o same_o thing_n as_o smectymnu●s_n pag._n 54._o 71._o 78._o and_o also_o the_o provincial_a assembly_n in_o answer_n to_o episcopal_a plea_n say_v jus_n diu._n min._n part_n 2._o pag._n 82_o 83._o the_o believer_n of_o one_o city_n make_v but_o one_o church_n in_o the_o apostle_n day_n and_o add_v that_o the_o asian_a angel_n be_v not_o diocesan_n bishop_n but_o congregational_a presbyter_n seat_v each_o of_o they_o in_o one_o church_n not_o any_o of_o they_o in_o more_o than_o one_o so_o that_o its_o undeniable_a that_o for_o one_o man_n to_o be_v a_o officer_n to_o more_o than_o one_o church_n for_o one_o to_o be_v set_v over_o many_o church_n be_v episcopacy_n and_o this_o only_o do_v we_o call_v by_o that_o name_n preacher_n sent._n pag._n 248._o 283._o and_o that_o this_o follow_v upon_o their_o principle_n we_o have_v there_o prove_v and_o therefore_o it_o 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visible_a at_o least_o who_o be_v add_v to_o the_o church_n therefore_o they_o stand_v in_o a_o visible_a relation_n to_o christ_n in_o order_n before_o addition_n to_o the_o church_n for_o this_o see_v more_o in_o our_o epistle_n to_o our_o former_a book_n 2._o his_o minor_a be_v untrue_a for_o multitude_n even_o among_o we_o be_v baptize_v and_o yet_o do_v not_o visible_o stand_v in_o relation_n to_o christ_n but_o to_o satan_n ergo_fw-la baptism_n do_v not_o make_v visible_o to_o stand_v in_o relation_n to_o christ_n again_o a_o man_n must_v stand_v in_o a_o visible_a relation_n to_o christ_n before_o baptism_n math._n 28._o 19_o they_o must_v first_o be_v disciple_n and_o then_o baptize_v and_o therefore_o it_o be_v not_o baptism_n but_o some_o thing_n antecedaneous_a to_o it_o that_o make_v visible_o to_o stand_v in_o relation_n to_o christ._n as_o to_o rom._n 6._o 3._o and_o gal._n 3._o 27._o they_o may_v show_v that_o believer_n be_v baptize_v in_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n 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last_o argument_n pag._n 29._o we_o reply_v it_o be_v not_o that_o which_o give_v the_o capacity_n but_o that_o which_o give_v the_o right_a to_o church-priveledges_a that_o make_v a_o man_n stand_v in_o relation_n to_o a_o church_n nei_fw-la she_o do_v baptism_n make_v a_o man_n capable_a of_o church-priviledge_n no_o not_o of_o the_o supper_n which_o he_o mention_n for_o some_o infant_n be_v baptise_a and_o excommunicate_a person_n also_o and_o yet_o be_v uncapable_a of_o that_o church-priviledge_n nay_o the_o presbyterian_o will_v not_o admit_v to_o the_o supper_n without_o examination_n and_o the_o provincial_a assembly_n plead_v against_o admit_v the_o ignorant_a or_o scandalous_a to_o the_o supper_n vind._n presb._n govern._n pag._n 56._o etc._n etc._n by_o which_o it_o appear_v that_o though_o they_o donot_v account_v unbaptise_v person_n capable_a of_o the_o supper_n yet_o they_o do_v not_o judge_v baptism_n enough_o to_o capacitate_v for_o the_o supper_n for_o than_o they_o 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