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A44051 The history of the life and death of Sr. Thomas More, Lord High Chancellor of England in King Henry the Eights time collected by J.H., Gent.; Tho. Mori vita et exitus Hoddesdon, John, fl. 1650. 1662 (1662) Wing H2293; ESTC R9021 72,524 216

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