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A42896 Catholicks no idolaters, or, A full refutation of Doctor Stillingfleet's unjust charge of idolatry against the Church of Rome. Godden, Thomas, 1624-1688. 1672 (1672) Wing G918; ESTC R16817 244,621 532

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time_n of_o its_o reformation_n cite_v for_o it_o the_o testimony_n of_o arch_a bishop_n cranmer_n and_o other_o mr._n foulis_n i_o know_v speak_v of_o that_o book_n call_v he_o a_o bold_a fellow_n that_o publish_v it_o and_o affirm_v that_o he_o little_o understand_v the_o compass_n and_o merit_n of_o that_o controversy_n i_o like_v not_o the_o rudeness_n of_o these_o and_o other_o expression_n of_o like_a nature_n he_o there_o use_v and_o i_o forbear_v to_o repeat_v yet_o i_o can_v willing_o join_v with_o he_o so_o far_o in_o charity_n as_o to_o impute_v it_o rather_o to_o inadvertence_n than_o design_n in_o my_o adversary_n do_v not_o this_o new_a charge_n of_o idolatry_n seem_v but_o too_o apparent_o to_o be_v but_o a_o clinch_a of_o the_o nail_n which_o he_o have_v drive_v before_o to_o the_o head_n for_o if_o the_o form_n of_o church-government_n be_v mutable_a as_o the_o secular_a power_n well-advised_a shall_v see_v reason_n what_o great_a reason_n can_v there_o be_v for_o the_o actual_a change_n of_o it_o than_o the_o nullity_n of_o its_o jurisdiction_n this_o have_v make_v i_o wonder_n not_o a_o little_a how_o the_o governor_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n can_v see_v their_o authority_n so_o close_o attack_v at_o least_o so_o manifest_o betray_v by_o their_o pretend_a champion_n and_o not_o vindicate_v themselves_o and_o their_o jurisdiction_n from_o the_o ●oul_a stain_n of_o antichristian_a which_o necessary_o follow_v if_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n as_o he_o pretend_v be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n and_o they_o derive_v together_o with_o their_o consecration_n their_o episcopal_a jurisdiction_n from_o it_o but_o i_o shall_v leave_v these_o thing_n to_o those_o who_o it_o concern_v and_o betake_v myself_o to_o my_o present_a business_n which_o be_v to_o show_v that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n neither_o in_o her_o doctrine_n nor_o practice_n conformable_a to_o her_o doctrine_n be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n and_o this_o i_o bid_v do_v much_o soon_o have_v not_o the_o time_n spend_v i●_n transcribe_v lest_o the_o copy_n shall_v be_v surprise_v the_o difficulty_n of_o the_o press_n which_o also_o increase_v the_o errata_fw-la and_o other_o employment_n 〈◊〉_d a_o few_o for_o we_o also_o be_v none_o of_o those_o happy_a man_n who_o have_v only_o one_o thing_n to_o mind_n re●arded_v i_o in_o my_o design_n errata_fw-la in_o the_o preface_n page_n 2._o line_n 27._o for_o point_v read_v printing_n p._n 6._o l._n 8._o r._n dr._n tailor_n that_o neither_o p_o 25._o l._n 15._o r._n question_v thus_o put_v p._n 35._o l._n 30._o for_o with_o r._n against_o p._n 38._o l._n 8._o for_o couse_n r._n caus●_n l._n 9_o for_o er_n r._n eos_fw-la p._n 41_o l._n 10_o r._n write_n p._n 5●_n l._n 28._o r._n beholder_n p._n 64_o l_o 12_o r._n irrepresentablenes_n p._n 80._o l._n 11._o for_o the_o r._n he_o p._n 81._o l._n 18._o f._n seat_n r._n state_n p._n 87._o l._n 6._o f._n do_v r._n draw_v p._n 92._o l._n ult_n r._n advantage_n p._n 124._o l._n 11._o add_v in_o the_o marg._n of_o the_o church_n li._n 3._o c._n 36._o p._n 134._o l._n 3._o f._n cross_n r._n cross_n p._n 138._o l._n 23._o r._n ●ue_v that_o by_o p._n 140._o l._n ult_n f._n rash_o r._n vain_o p._n 158._o l._n 27._o r._n obcaecans_n l._n 27._o f._n that_o r._n that_o be_v p._n 161._o l._n 25._o or_o imagine_v r._n imagine_v l._n 28._o for_o oracre_n r._n oraces_n p_o 172._o l._n 5._o for_o in_o r._n i_o p._n 178._o l._n 25._o r._n in_o this_o matter_n p._n 212._o l._n 27._o for_o honour_n r._n comfort_n p._n 2●7_n l_o 6._o r._n wherefore_o p._n 246._o l._n 2._o r._n beget_v son_n p._n 360._o l._n 30._o f._n first_o r._n ●isth_n p._n 363._o l._n 2._o after_o fo●_n biu_n put_v st._n nicholas_n for_o eru_n p._n 411._o l._n 7._o 8._o f._n paul_n r._n paula_n l._n 23._o praise_n r._n pray_v p._n 448._o l._n 17._o f._n flood_n r._n flood_n the_o content_n of_o the_o chapter_n part_n i._n of_o the_o veneration_n of_o holy_a image_n chap._n 1._o dr_n stillingfleet_n one_a and_o second_o answer_v to_o the_o first_o question_n show_v not_o pertinent_a necessity_n of_o communion_n with_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n prove_v and_o his_o charge_n of_o idolatry_n overthrow_v by_o his_o own_o principle_n pag._n 1._o chap._n 2._o his_o chief_a argument_n to_o prove_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n guilty_a of_o idolatry_n examine_v and_o his_o preposterous_a way_n of_o argue_v lay_v open_a pag._n 17._o chap._n 3._o the_o mystery_n of_o make_v the_o same_o proposition_n sometime_o a_o article_n of_o faith_n and_o sometime_o none_o no_o express_a text_n against_o worship_v god_n by_o a_o image_n his_o first_o proof_n from_o the_o term_n of_o the_o law_n manifest_o groundless_a the_o argument_n from_o st._n augustine_n judgement_n and_o the_o septuagint_n translate_n the_o word_n pesel_n idol_n and_o
not_o image_n reinforce_v pag._n 33._o chap._n 4._o the_o doctor_n be_v second_a proof_n from_o the_o reason_n of_o the_o law_n sophistical_a all_o representation_n of_o god_n not_o dishonourable_a to_o he_o nor_o reject_v as_o such_o by_o the_o church_n of_o england_n the_o proper_a reason_n of_o the_o law_n on_o god_n part_n be_v assign_v and_o assert_v to_o be_v the_o supreme_a excellency_n of_o his_o nature_n pag._n 57_o chap._n 5._o worship_n unlawful_a by_o the_o light_n of_o nature_n equal_o unlawful_a to_o jew_n and_o christian_n a_o strange_a paradox_n advance_v by_o dr._n stillingfleet_n viz._n what_o can_v a_o image_n do_v to_o the_o heighten_v devotion_n or_o raise_v affection_n how_o far_o his_o devotion_n to_o the_o sun_n may_v be_v allow_v in_o the_o judgement_n of_o st._n leo._n pag._n 76._o chap._n 6._o of_o the_o notion_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o wise_a heathen_n in_o the_o matter_n of_o their_o image_n the_o text_n of_o st._n paul_n act_v 17._o 24._o and_o rom._n 1._o 21._o explain_v some_o of_o the_o doctor_n be_v testimony_n examine_v in_o particular_a the_o relation_n he_o give_v of_o what_o the_o jesuit_n do_v in_o china_n pag._n 95._o chap._n 7._o of_o the_o 2d_o general_n council_n of_o nice_a call_v most_o irreverent_o by_o dr._n st._n that_o wise_a synod_n his_o constantinopolitan_a father_n objection_n answer_v by_o epiphanius_n and_o his_o answer_n show_v to_o be_v go●d_v pag._n 118._o chap._n 8._o the_o dr.'s_n objection_n from_o the_o council_n of_o frankford_n examine_v and_o show_v to_o be_v no_o advantage_n to_o his_o cause_n pag._n 140._o chap._n 9_o of_o the_o doctor_n be_v three_o proof_n from_o the_o judgement_n as_o he_o pretend_v of_o the_o lawgiver_n his_o speculation_n concern_v the_o golden_a calf_n manifest_o repugnant_a to_o the_o h._n scripture_n and_o father_n mr._n thorndike'_v judgement_n of_o the_o mean_v and_o extent_n of_o the_o second_o commandment_n pag._n 153._o chap._n 10._o what_o kind_n of_o honour_n the_o 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