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A41212 A compendious discourse upon the case, as it stands between the Church of England and of Rome on the one hand, and again between the same Church of England and those congregations which have divided from it on the other hand together with the treatise of the division of the English church and the Romish, upon the Reformation / enlarged with some explicatory additionalls by H.F. ... Ferne, H. (Henry), 1602-1662. 1655 (1655) Wing F790; ESTC R5674 55,518 166

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onely in matters of Discipline but Doctrine also as that of Arles for rebaptizing them which came from Hereticks denying the Trinity can. 8. The Melivetan Council determined against the Pelagean Heresie The third Council of Toledo gathered for extinguishing the Reliques of that Heresie which had long infected the Gothick Nation and hindered the meeting and benefit of such Councils as King Riccared who called that nationall Synod complaines in his speech to the Bishops then assembled Againe these Councils were gathered and held and did conclude independently on Rome or without acknowledgement of any such Jurisdiction as was after challenged by the Bishop of Rome Faire respect indeed was had to that Bishop in a fraternall way of Communion and sometimes of communicating to him what they had done and concluded as that first Council of Arles Fratri Sylvestro and charitativè significamus In the third Council of Carthage Can. 47. for reading nothing in the Church but Canonicall Scripture it is added Hoc innotescat fratri con-sacerdoti Bonifacio I suppose they mean Boniface Bishop of Rome vel aliis earum partium Episcopis to the end this Canon might be received and practised in those parts But presently after in the fourth Council in which S. Augustine was when the Liberty of their Church seemed to be infringed through a kinde of Jurisdiction challenged by the same Boniface in the point of Appeals they utterly rejected his Plea which he made by the generall Council of Nice but could not prove it So he that looks into the severall Councils of Toledo will finde no signification of a dependance on Rome but great acknowledgement of the religious care of their severall Kings by whose permission they assembled The Church of England therefore being such a Nationall Church and having like power might lawfully reform it self without asking the Bishop of Rome any leave or without staying for a free generall Councill for albeit such a Councill was in agitation yet could not be expected either a generall one because of the Division of the East or Westerne Churches or a free one because of the Popes exorbitant power as Tr. 1. cap. 4. And as it might so it did justly reforme casting off in the first place that Papall usurpation which hindered all Reformation but desining nothing against the definitions of known and approved Generall Councils within the compasse of which time Cardinall Perroun thinks it reasonable the triall of a Church be restreined as Tr. 1. c. ult unlesse some will quarrel at something of Discipline not retained in our church according to the ancient constitutions which being a matter of prudentiall Provision admits variation according to the Exigence of the Times Also it is cleare that Nationall Synods have not held themselves alwayes bound to all things determined formerly in that kinde but have put the receptions of such Canons to the vote as we see in the beginning of the first of Toledo Statuta Concilii Niceni The Statutes of the Council of Nice about Ordinations before not used among them are voted there to be observed Also we finde they frequently make relaxation of former rigour as in the injunctions of penance Lastly it is evident there are many constitutions of this kinde not reteined or observed by the Church of Rome Such as concern the exercise of publique Penance such as forbid the translating of a Bishop from City to City and Ordinations without a Title things determined in generall Councils Of this as to the point of single life of Clergy men T. 2 c. 1. of the whole point of the warrantableness of our Reformation Tr. 2. c. 2. §. VI Answer to the Romish Plea Upon these Grounds it is easie to answer what they object or pretend against us which that it may have the better impression upon the unwary they represent the Church of England before Reformation wholly Romish professing their Doctrine ever since the receiving of the Faith in this Land under Gregory the first Bishop of Rome acknowledging that jurisdiction and accordingly yeilding Obedience to that See yea and owing it as Duty upon the conversion of this Land From these premises their Inference is and they think it will take with the unwary That the Church of England by her Reformation has cast off the Faith received and so fallen into Heresie and by denying subjection to that See has incurred the guilt of Schisme But as there is some truth apparent in the Premises so as much Falshood supposed and taken for granted which renders the Inferences inconsequent and invalid First it is a Truth that the Nationall Church of England before the Reformation was generally Romish both for Doctrine professed in it and for Obedience yielded to the Bishop of Rome but then the Inference they make therefore the Protestant Church of England is a New Church or Hereticall is invalid because it rests upon this untruth supposed and taken by them for granted viz. that the Romish Church was alwaies such teaching such Doctrine and that the profession of such Doctrine makes a Church to be Catholique and the denyall of it renders it Hereticall all which they must prove to make good that Inference where as it is evident that the Catholique Christian Faith once delivered Jude 5. Christ alwaies professed in all ages and into which they and we baptise makes a Christian Church and the holding that Faith undefiled and free from Errours and Corruptions in Belief and Worship makes a pure and Orthodox Church So did the ancient Church of Rome hold the Faith so does the reformed Church of England hold and professe it freed from the mixture of Errour which had crept into the later Romish Church to the infecting of the English so that this National Church is so farre from being Hereticall by ceasing to be Romish that it is therefore the more pure and Orthodox Upon the like supposals false and impertinent they give pretence plausible to the unwary for that demand Shew such a Protestant Church in England before the Reformation as if every Nationall Church did alwaies teach the same Doctrine without mixture of such Errour generally prevailing or as if it were reasonably required of us to shew the Church of England alwaies Protestant i.e. protesting against Errors whereas the Errours were not alwaies nor at first known or to shew a Reformed Church before the Reformation made For though Truth be alwaies before Errour yet Errour is before Reformation which protests against it and casts it out So the English Church as corrupted with Romish Errours must needs be so before it could be Protestant or Reformed but the Catholick Truths it alwaies held made it a Christian Church even under that mixture of Errours so when by Reformation it had cast them off it remained the same Christian Church but a more pure and sound one holding still the same Catholick Truths without that mixture of Errour like as the ancient Christian Church did before Popery
prevailed as Tr. 1. c. 1. Secondly It is a Truth that the Saxons or English whatever preparation they had to it by the Vicinity and Acquaintance of the British Christians did indeed receive the Christian Faith from Rome through the godly care of Gregory the first then Bishop and the Ministry of Austin and others whom he sent to preach it here But then the untruth which they suppose and usually impose upon the unwary is palpable viz. That the Doctrine of the Church of Rome as to Faith and Worship is the same it was in Gregorie's time and that we by Reformation have cast off the Faith we received For first as to the maine and fundamentall Faith that makes a man or Church Christian no question but Austin and those that were sent preached that they baptized into which is the very same that we do still Then as for the matters of Faith and Worship which they and we differ in the Novelty is clear neither can they demonstrate that any point we cast off was a doctrine of Faith in S. Gregory's time Some things I confesse of misbelief and practise were then crept in and gathering strength but it is observable that in all their allegations of Fathers for the points we differ in their owne Gregory comes rarely in indeed that Purgatory was his opinion they have expresse proof not that it was an article of Faith in that Church On the contrary it is plaine that Communion in both kindes was the doctrine and practise of the Church in his time as it had been alwaies before that Image-worship is declared against in his answer to the Bishop of Marsellis the Title also and Jurisdiction of Vniversall Bishop which immediately concernes the Cause in hand is declared against in his contestation with John of Constantinople who affected it In a word had the Church of Rome continued the same for Faith and Worship as it was in Gregory's time and the Bishop of Rome taken no more to himself than the said Gregory did certainly it would not have come to a division neither would there have been cause for it §. VII Deniall of Obedience to Papall jurisdiction makes not Schismaticall Thirdly it is a Truth that the English Church still generally taken before Reformation acknowledged the Jurisdiction of that See but the Inference they make therefore it is Schismaticall in casting off or denying to yeild obedience thereunto is invalid for it supposes this untruth that we owed it of duty upon special relation viz. our conversion or receiving the Faith by the Ministers of that See To answer I. It seemes the Bishop of Rome makes his claim to England upon a double Title One of Vniversall Pastorship which extends to all Churches of what Plantation soever the Other of Conversion or Plantation which reaches to England and some other Nations and it seemes when these Titles are divided the first prevailes and swallowes up the other and so brings under his Jurisdiction all the Churches which other Apostles besides Peter and their Successors planted Whereupon it followes that the other Apostles shall not leave the like Title of Jurisdiction to those which succeeded them in the Churches they planted unlesse dependantly on Rome also that the other Apostles laboured dependently on Peter and as his Ministers and Commissioners plaated Churches for him to rule over as supreme general Pastor when as it is evident they were sent immediately by Christ with equall commission to plant Churches in all the world God teach all Nations Mat. 28. and As my Father sent me so I send you John 20. Therefore Peter and Paul when they made that agreement Gal. 2. departed to the work upon equal termes To establish this first and transcendent Title of Universal Jurisdiction they are bound to make good these several untruths That it was so with Peter in respect of the other Apostles That it is so with the Successors of Peter in respect of Those which succeeded the other Apostles in the Churches by them planted That the Power and Priviledge pretended to be in Peter was derived upon his Successors Lastly that it is derived onely upon the Bishops of Rome not of Antioch or elsewhere All these they are bound to make good yea and seeing all their Romish faith resting upon the pretended Priviledges of that Church is founded upon these false Supposals they are bound to make all good by apparent Scripture for they grant that the prime points of Faith necessary for all to believe as this is according to their doctrine are clearly conteined in Scripture But to shew this point of the Priviledges of that Church Infallibility and Vniversall Jurisdiction so conteined is impossible for them to do for when in this vast Controversie they leave nothing untoucht in Scripture or Fathers which may be drawn to make any seeming appearance for such priviledges they doe but give us words nothing of force to prove the thing indeed Some passages to this purpose in Tr. 1. c. 27. and in cap. 28. 30. II. As to his second Title from Plantation of the Church here We doe not find that the Converting of any Nation to the Faith gave a Title of Jurisdiction to that Church from whence that Nation received the Faith for we doe not see it was held for any Rule in the distribution of Provinces and the limiting or extending the bounds of Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction We doe not find that the ancient Councils which provided therein had any respect to such Title but to the constitution of the Empire rather and the Provinces thereof and that the alteration which has been anywhere since made in the bounds of National Jurisdiction followed the division of Kingdomes into which the Empire was broken which appears in the severall Councils of Toledo above mentioned under their severall Kings without dependance on Rome And if we look into the Saxon Church and Councils gathered and published by the industry of Sir Hen Spelman it will appear that all the Application made unto or intercourse had with Rome did not speak a due subjection but at most a voluntary adhaesion not acknowledgment of that Jurisdiction but of their fair respect such as any Church ought to have to that Church from which it received the faith so long as that Church continues safely in the faith it propagated and so in a condition of giving advise and direction to and of receiving due respect and complyance from those among whom it planted the faith But as Errors prevailed in that Church of Rome so in this and among the rest that usurped Jurisdiction Pope Hildebrand or Gregory the 7. about 400. years after Gregory the first did lay on that yoak and began to bring the necks of Kings and Princes under it too and still by their power does the Bishop of Rome hold his jurisdiction over the Churches within their Dominions as Spain France c. But such Princes as came to understand their owne right not onely
them to examine the purity of their Religion by the Apostles trial of it Jam. 1. ult. who thought good to omit the mention of these exercises because of the Pharisees seeking the esteem of holinesse by such performances because of Christians then as now in our Times resting too much on a fansy of their faith performance of such Exercises without works and deeds answerable And therefore the Apostle described pure Religion by such duties of Charity absteining from all spots of the world or works of the Flesh as make better proof of the sincerity of Religion If the making of Fatherlesse and Widdowes the turning men out of their Estates the invading of other mens Rights had by the Apostle been made the trial of pure Religion then might the Contentious of our dayes have pretended to Purity and Religion and have blessed the Lord that they were become rich though with the spoiling of others as they did Zech. 11. 5. but if Charity and denying of worldlinesse and lusts be the marks then let them try whether their way of Religion bring forth such fruits or be in a capacity to do it When the Romanists alledge the many pious and charitable works as building of Churches Colledges Hospitals Schools and the applying maintenance thereunto done by men in their Religion our pretenders to Purity will be ready to say it was the Doctrine of Merit that did it not reflecting upon themselves to consider what kind of Doctrine theirs is which pulls downe the Monuments of Piety and Charity and converts the publique to private use But when we shew that since the Reformation which cast out Popish merit as many good works for the computation has been made done in the like kinde as have been done in any one Age before we shew the fruits of our Religion and challenge theirs which onely can shew for their way and doctrines tend to no other issue a distempered zeal in destroying much of that which before was raised to pious uses and a self-seeking in the enriching themselves by the spoiles Swearing and drunkennesse the usuall and noted spots of the World are as it is fit very much declined in their way of purity but the Pharisee could say more he was no Extortioner no Adulterer and Saint James implied many other spots of the World which pure Religion must keep a man from and S. John 1. Ep. c. 2. 16. reducing the things of the world to three heads makes two of them the lust of the Eye and pride of Life and therefore tells us that Coveting Injustice Sacriledge and the Pride of life that either causes them or is maintained by them are the Exorbitant Iniquities of the world and therefore Spots which by S. James his rule will not consist with pure Religion I have been the longer upon this Argument because there is scarce any other thing by which the Devil hath gained more or the Church lost more than by this pretence of Purity the common plea of all Sects in all Times Now as to their Reply above that they could not have those duties of exercises of hearing praying in publique purely administred satisfaction will be given below when we come to consider of the offence they take at the Liturgy forms of publique Service Rites and Ceremonies used in and about Gods worship in this Church But first of their Exceptions against the Government it selfe for we charge them of separating or withdrawing their Obedience from their lawfull Pastors and Governours Such as Bishops were in this and in all the Catholique Church in all Ages XI Their Plea against the Government of this Chu. They plead it is no lawfull government of the Church but to be cast out as Antichristian This last contentious age has called the office of a Bishop into question and made a vast controversy of it I will not follow it at stretch but onely observe such grounds as Truth and Peace seems mainly to rest on and which every ordinary capacity may understand and receive satisfaction so far as to keep himself in the unity of the Church It is fitting therefore in the first place to remove the prejudice under which the Adversaries usually represent Bishops to vulgar eyes as men swell'd with their titles of Honour large Revenues attendance of Chancellors Commissaries Officials Lording it over the flock not feeding it Why persons Ecclesiasticall should be thought uncapable of the Honour or unfit for the means which the piety of former times has applyed unto them out of a religious respect I know no cause besides the ingratitude and sacrilegious disposition of this latter Age But to wave these Additionals as external to the very office of a Bishop and to passe by Abuses that might be in government through the iniquity of Persons and corrupter Times all which are capable of Reformation by due Authority that which is concerned in this Controversy is the Function and very office of a Bishop By the office be the times what they will he is set in the Church as a chiefe or more generall Pastor within such precincts or compasse commonly called a Diocesse having inspection and superintendency in which stands his Prelacy over particular Pastors and Flocks providing or ordaining such Pastors as need requires and doing all this with the advice and assistance of his Presbyters or some of the inferiour Pastors anciently called Presbyteri civitatis and they nothing without him Such an office will appeare to be conformable as to the perpetuall practise of the Catholick Church so to the Word of God and most agreeable to the reason of Church-government as to the preserving of Unity and keeping out Schisme the main concernments of the Church and therefore they must appeare also highly guilty of Sacriledge and Schisme that not onely deny obedience to the established Authority of this Office but have endeavoured to subvert the very Function it self §. XIII Episcopall Government is by universall Practise of the Chu First the practise of the whole Church in all Ages is against them Into this Island the Christian faith was received if not in the Apostles times as some think yet in the next age at farthest as all do acknowledge and with that faith the government by Bishops was received and ever since continued neither did the Catholique Church ever know any other Government till the last hundred yeares So the force of the Apostles argument 1 Cor. 11. 16. falls upon the Contentious of this Age and explodes their new way of ordaining Pastors and ruling their Churches without Bishops The Churches of God never had any such Custome yea in some Councils they declared against it upon occasion given by the presumption of some Presbyters that took upon them to ordaine as in the Case of Ischyras and some others ordained by one Coluthus who carried himselfe as a Bishop but was found to be none in Athanas Epist. certainly the lawfull Customes of any Nationall Church are by the Apostles reason binding to
Churches as Jerusalem Antioch Rome Ephesus Corinth and this practice and succession setled before St. John the Apostle dyed All which as it clearly shewes those severall Angels of the severall Churches to whom our Saviour by Saint John did write could be no other then such Bishops having chief care of and rule in those Churches therfore more chargeable with the Corruptions prevailing in them So doth it clearly convince that plea of the Adversaries which amounts to a charging the first Bishops with Usurpation and invasion upon the right of Presbyters or particular Congregations to be a conceit altogether unreasonable for it is beyond all Imagination that Saint John would have suffered such an invasion or that those first Bishops who conversed with the Apostles and were their disciples should make such an invasion and immediately subvert the Apostolicall order pretended for the Presbyterian Consistory Or that those first Bishops being holy men and many of them Martyrs for still we finde the heathen Persecutors sought chiefly after the Bishop of the Church that the chief Pastor being smitten the flock might be more easily scattered should be so ambitious and unjust or lastly that the Presbyters then should be so tame as not once to complain of the wrong done them or to transmit their Protestation against it to Posterity To conclude this Tryal by Scripture It comes to this issue The Adversaries were bound to shew direct Authority of Scripture against Episcopal Government it being in possession established by the continued Authority of this Nationall Church and which is more by the perpetuall practice of the Catholick Church against this it was expected they should bring some places of Scripture forbidding that power of Ordination and Jurisdiction to be committed to speciall hands such as Bishops properly taken or commending it to the Consistory of Presbyters or some instances at least of that power exercised by such a company Whereas all they can evince out of Scripture is that there were Presbyters strictly so taken and of the inferiour rank which being granted them we shew there was a Prelacy still over such Presbyters still there were special men that had an inspection and rule over them and when the Apostles went off the practise of the Church shewes the power was left in the hands of special men called Bishops properly So that the Government of the Church by Bishops appears as was said above conformable not onely to the Universal practise of the Church after the Apostles time but also to the Word of God i.e. to the practise and patterns we have there 1. of our Saviour appointing twelve Apostles and besides and under them seventy Disciples of a lower rank 2. of Apostolical practise by which we find the power exercised by special Elders viz. the Apostles themselves or other choice men appointed thereunto by them whereas all Elders had power of the Ministry of the Word and Sacraments 3. of the several Angels of the several Churches to whom the Epistles were directed Rev. c. 2. 3. which is the last instance in holy Writ to this purpose §. XV Episcopacy most agreeable to the reason of Church-government Lastly The Government of the Church by Bishops was said above to be most agreeable to the reason of Church-government for preserving Unity and excluding Schism This is very obvious in the writings of the Fathers St. Cyprian had much to do with the Novatian Schismaticks of his time which caused him to write many Epistles upon that occasion and a Book intituled De Vnitate Ecclesiae wherein he shewes the Unity of the Church as to the preventing of Schisme stands much upon this that there be one Bishop in one Church St. Hierom whom they of the Presbyterian perswasion take for their best friend because he strives to advance the Order of Presbyters as much as he can yet as he denies the power of Ordination belongs to Presbyters so he acknowledges that Bishops were appointed over Presbyters to keep out Faction and Schism that the people should not say as they did at Corinth I am of Paul I of Apollos I of this Teacher I of that And for his saying of Presbyters that they did anciently communi consilio with joint advice rule the Churches is not to be understood exclusivè to the Bishop for such a time was never known in the Church but joyntly with him as his Council so were the Presbyteri Civitatis to the Bishop and their advice was more used and there was more cause for it before the many Canons and decrees of Councils gave rule in most particulars what the Bishop should do as it was by that time S. Jerom wrote and whatever he saith for the advancing of the order of Presbyters it is but to set them above all Deacons even those that immediately attended on the Bishop and it seems carried themselves too high it is not to equal them to Bishops whose Prelacy St. Jerome acknowledged and thought it very necessary for this purpose of keeping out Schism which the Parity of Presbyters would expose it to And I would appeale to the reason of any of that perswasion whether it were not more convenient and necessary for keeping all in order to have one aged grave learned and experienced in the way of the Church to be the standing Moderator of the Classis or company of Presbyters than to change their Moderator year by year and leave the place open to every young unexperienc'd Presbyter that can make a faction to advance him unto it I have heard this inconvenience complained on by some of the new erected Classes whereas a Bishop being such a Moderator as is fixed and above all competition is more enabled to keep all ordinary Presbyters in their station and within their bounds And then again I would demand whether the Apostles who complained of Divisions as in the Church of Corinth and of false Teachers there and elswhere were not careful to provide the most reasonable Expedient in government against them It cannot be denyed and upon this score and to this very end of preserving Schism it cannot be thought otherwise but that the Apostles gave beginning to this Government throughout the Church 1. Notwithstanding those of the Classicall perswasion bear themselves much upon Mr. Blondels Collections whose pains might have been better implyed to the use of the Church upon some other Argument For in this it is impossible to drive out of Antiquity though ransaked over again any more to the purpose of the Presbyterian claim than has been already acknowledged and the weakness of it discovered viz. That it seems to be the judgement of some Fathers that the name Bishop was at first common to all Elders and that those Bishops mentioned Phil. 1. 1. 1 Tim. 3. Tit. 1. were Presbyters or Elders of the second rank But what advantage is this to the cause they would establish without proving also that the power of Ordination and Government which we appropriate to
Bishops strictly taken was communicated to Presbyters in common To the witnessing of this it is not possible to force Antiquity no not S. Jerome alone All that seems to speak any thing that way amounts but to this that they were used in the Government and things done with their advise and counsel that they were more used in Ages before St. Jerome than in his time and there was some reason for it as I said because by that time provision was made in most Cases by the many Canons and Constitutions of the Church §. XVI Of the ordination of our Bishops received from Rome There are some slight exceptions and allegations they make which are fit onely to take with the ignorant as that we had our Bishops from Rome but they desire to conform to other Reformed Churches which want Bishops They that cannot distinguish the Times several conditions and concernments of the Roman Church may be startled at every mention made of Rome but we are not ashamed to acknowledge we thence received Bishops from whence we received the Christian Faith both went together same Faith and same Government first in the British then in the English Conversion of this Nation and indeed in all Nations where Christianity was planted In the time then of Gregory the first Ordination of Bishops was here received with the Faith and ever since has been continued from hand to hand in this Nationall Church Of this seeming prejudice more largely Tr. 2 c. 4 5. But to return the Enquiry upon the New Pastors of the New Churches Classicall or Congregationall If it should be demanded Whence have they their Ordination They cannot give any reasonable account nor hold up their heads in the defence of their Pastors and Churches against any Romanist much lesse against any true English Protestant or obedient Son of this Church Challenging them of Schism in departing from their lawfull Governors and Pastors and taking to themselves a Power never given them As for the Reformed Churches which have not Bishops their defect is nothing comparable to the fulness of the whole Catholick Church to the practice of which they ought in all reason to conform Especially seeing those Churches had but tumultuary Reformations and no marvel then in they were not fully regular in their constitution Nor does the example of those Churches come home to the Case in hand there being a wide difference between Wanting or not having Bishops and casting them out when they have them Besides this all the forreign Churches approved Bishops in this Church and their most learned men acknowledged a want in their own excusing it as proceeding of necessity rather then choice as Tr. 2. c. 3. Nor can it justifie those that divide from us to say they joyn with other Reformed Churches for first they must answer for the Schism in forsaking the Communion of this Church and as their Case is not the same with that of the Churches abroad so cannot those Churches justly receive them having broken the Communion of this Therefore was it so carefully provided for in many Councils of the Ancient Church that none should travail to any forreign Church without his Communicatory letters to testifie his Communion with the Church he came from before he could be received to Communion in the Other And this to preserve Unity And thus much touching the Government §. XVII Exceptions in regard of the publick worship Now to the usuall exceptions made against the Communion of the Church of England in the point of Publick Worship the Liturgy administration of Sacraments Rites and Ceremonies used in this Church by reason whereof they could not as they pretend Worship God purely in Spirit and Truth This Assembling or meeting together and joyning in the publick divine Service especially in the participation of the Sacrament or Eucharist is indeed the witnessing and exercising of that Communion which is and must be held between all the Members of the same Church So they Act. 2. 42. in such duties and in breaking of bread So the Apostle calls earnestly for it Heb. 10. 25. and cap. 13. 15 and insinuates the Communion of them that are in the Chu by their eating and partaking of One Altar v. 10. the participation of that Altar being the Eucharist And according to this expression was the phrase of the ancient Church {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} and {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} to be within or without the Altar i e. in or out of the Communion of the Church and to set up Altar against Altar i. e. a new Communion against the Communion of the Church Lastly the Apostle 1. Cor. 10. 17. One Bread One Body the joynt participation of One Bread shewes them to be of one Body holding the Unity of the Church and withall it shewes what a dangerous thing it is for any to abstein causlesly or to separate from the Communion of the Church of which they are Members But see in particular what they pretend as Causes of their Separation There is indeed nothing alledged now but has been before by the Contentious which have disturbed the peace of this Church from Time to Time and has been often at large and learnedly refuted and those that understand themselves being not swayed with faction and passion have received satisfaction but because my intent is still to afford some present satisfaction to them that are now troubled and more easie to be wrought upon I shall briefly and plainly speak to those exceptions against our Church-communion which usually prevaile with such persons First that our Liturgy or Common Prayer was taken out of the Masse-book This is of the same seasoning with that of our Bishops deriving their ordination from Rome fit onely to distast the weak who are offended with any thing that smells of Rome But as we said of Bishops we had them from that Church from which we received the Christian Faith and then when we received it so we say of our Liturgy it has no more of the Masse or publique service of the Romish Church than was received and continued from the Ancient Church and was agreeable to the Christian faith And to retein so much was according to that Christian Prudence and Charity used in our Reformation that would have no more opposition to them we were forced to differ from then must needs Whatever the prevailing Errors and Corruptions of After-times had brought into their Mass Reformation cast out And some of those learned Bishops and Clergy who were chief instruments of the Reformation and Composers of our Liturgy in that frame it had sealed the Reformation and their renouncing of Popish Errors with their Bloud and we challenge them to shew any such Popish corruption reteined in our Liturgy and might think it enough to oppose the judgement of other Reformed Churches approving it with which they might also rest satisfied if they did not too much value their own But more particularly Two
for preserving that one body which is the Church Eph. 4. 4. 13. 16. II. As for Catholick or Vniversal Practice or Tradition which stands in the consent of all the Churches in all Nations and Ages since the Apostles as Sectaries wave it altogether as wholly contrary to their Novelty so Papists pretend it onely reducing it into the testimony of their present Church and cannot truly give Catholick Tradition for any point of their faith and worship wherein they differ from us But the Church of England in the midst between both denying onely the Romish Tradition which brings not down any part of their Faith or Worship through all Ages from the Apostles admits of the true Catholick Tradition or Practice and yields due Authority to it the force of it resting upon common sense and reason which is in every man and which he must forsake that denies the Witnes of such Tradition it being not possible that all the Christian Churches which began in and about the Apostolical Times and so succeeded through all Nations and Ages should be either deceived in what they unanimously witnessed or agree all of them to deceive those that followed them Whereas the testimony of the Romish Church being but part of the Catholick and possibly over-ruled with some prevailing Faction cannot convince upon any such common notion of humane reason but must first prove it selfe to be the onely Church and infallible And seeing it is forced to seek such proofe by witnesse of Scripture they plainly run in a Circle from the testimony of their Church to the receiving or proving of Scripture to be the Word of God and back again from the Witnesse of Scripture to prove their Church But Catholick or Vniversal Tradition brings down Scripture to the Conviction of Heathens or Jews that will but use their common sense and reason that discovery which Scripture makes of it selfe by light from the innate qualities and internal Arguments relucent in it comes after and appeares to them onely that having entertained it upon the former Witnes of Catholicke Tradition are versed in it So by this Witnes of Catholick Practice in observing the Lords day Easter day Episcopal Government throughout the Church from the Apostles time we are assured that such passages of Scripture as concern any of these doe shew the Beginnings of the said Practices and the Church of England as it received at first and ever since observed the fore-mentioned particulars so it commands in generall due respect and adhaesion to that sense of Scripture which comes down by such universall consent III. Whereas the condition of the Church according to severall respects admits the distinction of Visible and Invisible the Romanists beare themselves too much upon the one extreme and the Sectaries upon the Other the first will have such a visible flourishing condition of it as is inconsistent with that state which the Church of Christ has and may fall into and prejudiciall as by them pretended to all just Reformation and profession of Truth which more neerly concerns the life and soul of the Church and the more invisible perfection of the members thereof And therefore they please themselves with the outward garb and face of their Church and will have it tryed by the conspicuous Eminency of it as Tr. 1 c. 12. rather than by truth and purity of doctrine Sectaries on the other extreme bear themselves too much upon the Invisible condition of the Church which stands in those inward qualifications of true faith and sanctification requisite to make a true and lively member of Christs mystical Body so that in the pursuit thereof and in pretence of gathering Churches consisting of such members onely they dissipate the visible Church of Christ and dissolve the Government he has setled in it But every true English Protestant acknowledges the Church of Christ is a visible society of Believers or of Professors of the Christian Faith of whom some are effectually called true and lively members but that is invisible others not yet advanced beyond the externall calling or profession a society I say of such Professors under such a Regiment or Government left by Christ and his Apostles and left to this purpose to keep all in unity and to advance those that are admitted in the visible Church to the meanes of Salvation unto a reall and effectuall participation of Grace and Union with Christ as lively Members of his body Eph. c. 4. 11 12 13. 16. And therefore all Christians are bound to yeeld obedience to the lawfull Pastors and Governors of that Visible Church whereof they are Members All this we professe in that Article of our Creed touching the Church for albeit that invisible condition of true Faith and Sanctity be the highest concernment and qualification of a Member of Christs Church and the attaining to that condition be the hope and aime of every good Christian in the Visible Church and therefore the chiefest thing in the profession of that Article viz. a Communion of such true Believers Saints and Members of Christ yet because the administrations of the visible Church tend necessarily unto that end and he that cuts himself off from the communion of the visible Church bereaves himself necessarily of the means to be advanced to that invisible condition therefore he that professeth this Article sayes he believes Christ alwayes has his visible Church which may be found in which such Meanes and Administrations may be had and that he yields obedience to the Pastors and Governors set in it to that end and purpose IV. As the Romanists pretend to an infallible assistance of Gods Spirit bound to St. Peters Chair so have Sectaries their confidence of the speciall guidance of the same Spirit And if we set the vanity of the one against the other we may find as much semblance of Reason from those places of Scripture which Sectaries alledge for every true Believer so inspired and directed as from those places the Romanists alledge for the Papal Infallibility of which Tr. 1. c. 27. Both these pretences are the very bane of the Unity of the Church Romish Infallibility rendring that Church incorrigible and setting it beyond all bounds of accord with other Christians that desiring Reformation will not be satisfied or put off with that pretended priviledge and the pretence of Sectaries rendring Pastors and Teachers in the Church uselesse or at least weakning the obedience due to them puts it into the power of every one that will fancy himselfe a true Believer and guided by such assistance to be a Reformer and to break the Church in pieces In the Church of England no such pretence either of Infallibility in the Governours or of Private Judgment in any against their Governours but such Authority of Governours and Pastors lawfully constituted as is beyond Appeal save to a Generall Council sitting and competent to determine and define in all Causes and to stop the mouth of the gainsayer and bind
of those that have divided from the Church of England is very easie and obvious Disobedient they are to the lawfull Authority in this Church and that not onely in their denying to obey the Orders Decrees Constitutions Lawfully made by them which had the Authority but in an utter withdrawing of their obedience for the future yea in abolishing and taking away as much as in them lay that very Authority and Office too a step farther than ever the Antient Schismaticks went And all this against the Constitution and Custome not onely of this Church but of all the Catholick Churche against that Charity which Saint Paul enjoynes as most necessary to preserve the Unity of the Church and to keep out Schism against all the admonitions not once and againe as the Apostle bids Titus but often given them yea satisfactions endeavoured by the Governours and Writers of this Church in all the particulars of Government Worship and Ceremony which the Contentious from time to time excepted against §. X. Answer to their plea against this Chu Let us then hear what they plead to this charge by way of exception against the Church of England and briefly rejoyne so as may be to the satisfaction of them at least who desire to continue in the Unity of the Church of England notwithstanding the Temptations of the Times and to the reduction of such as follow the Schism in the simplicity of their hearts deceived by the faire pretences thereof Their generall pretension for themselves and exception against this Church is their desire or seeking of Purity Holinesse strict walking which they could not have or exercise in that way they desired under the Government or in the way of Worship used in this Church of England Answ The pretence of Purity Holinesse and strict life has a faire glosse and to endeavour it really and conscionably is the duty and should indeed be the desire and care of every Christian But we finde the Pharisees in the Jewish Church pretending to it above all other and by the forced exercises of it drawing admiration from the beholders and bringing in Proselites to their Sect and it would be worth the examining at least in the Consciences of these Pretenders whether their righteousnesse exceeds the righteousnesse of the Scribes and Pharisees Our Saviour has also foretold that false Teachers shall arise in his Church and come in Sheeps cloathing but may be known by their fruits We finde also that the Antient and famous Schisms of the Novatians and Donatists had the pretence of purity and strictnesse Novatus about the year 250. was so strict that he denyed reconciliation to all that after Baptisme fell into Adultery or in times of persecution yeilded to Idolatry and broke with the Church for re-admitting such upon their unfeigned Repentance His followers were called Cathari or Puritans upon this pretence and many followers he had yea many of the Confessors such as suffered for the Christian Faith were carryed away with that false pretence and sided awhile with him till seeing their errour they returned again to the Unity of the Church and condemned his Schism as Saint Cyprian relates it to Cornelius Ep. 46. Donatus in the next age after him discontented because he could not be made Bishop of Carthage divided himself and his party from the Communion of the Church despising it as a mixed company of good and bad and rebaptizing all that revolted from the Church to his Communion confined the true Church onely to those of his perswasion for under that pretence of Purity he drew many away and it proved a Schism of great extent and long continuance If therefore this be one Reason wherefore our pretenders cannot as they conceive have that Purity or partake of the Ordinances as they ought because of Carnall Christians suffered in the Communion of the Church of England and unworthy receivers admitted to the Sacrament it was long agoe refuted by S. Austin in his learned workes against the Donatists demonstrating by severall places of Scripture which acknowledge and by severall parables of our Saviour which represent the condition of the Church on Earth to be such for mixture as a heap of Chaff and Wheat in the same Floor of good Fish and bad in the same Net of Corne and Tares in the same Field and that neither the unworthinesse of the Minister or of other Receivers makes Gods Ordinance ineffectuall or pollutes him that comes in Charity and with a Conscience undefiled or cleansed from selfe-pollutions It is in the power and belongs to the duty of Church-Governours to cast out the scandalous or such as walk disorderly but when that is done it is not for any man to judge he or she is carnall and unsanctified for this is to take the Lords Fan out of hand with which he will purge his Floor Mat. 3. and by breach of charity to offend against his Brother Nay if that be not done but that disorderly persons are yet suffered and come to the place of Worship yea to the Lords Table the guilt rests upon the Governors that are to see to it the Ordinance is not lesse effectuall to thee if by self-conceit and uncharitablenesse thou render not thy selfe uncapable of the benefit as the Pharisee did when he saw the Publican in the Temple with him yea for any thing thou knowest such a disorderly person may come at that time when thou art offended with him as the Publican then did truly penitent and converted XI Triall of Purity of Religion In the next place I would know what hinderance or prohibition of purity or strict life had they in the Communion of this Church Did the Governors thereof forbid any thing which St. James requires to pure Religion c. 1. ult. to keepe themselves unspotted of the World by Covetousnesse Selfe-seeking Swearing Drunkennesse Lusts of the flesh the common spots of the World Or did they forbid to visit the Fatherlesse and Widdow in their affliction or any works of Charity Might they not have done all these with praise and commendation had they continued in the Communion of this Church And for these other exercises of Devotion Prayer Reading Hearing which though belonging to pure Religion S. James thought good to omit we shall see the reason of it presently might they not be had duly frequently Was there any thing forbid but the irregular use or seditious abuse of them Private Meetings or Conventicles which were preparatories to Separation and Schism in a performance of those Duties to the despising of the Church or publique Assemblies But they will say they could not have these exercises in publique purely administred or performed that is as it will appeare below not according to their own devising and phansie Good reason there is that every Christian should have a special care of performing these duties of Prayer Reading Hearing but seeing our Pretenders to Purity seeme to place the summe of Religion in these especially I would wish
in the Church For our Saviour left his Apostles with full power extraordinary and ordinary for the planting and propagating his Church through the World The ordinary power they were to leave unto others after them for continuing of his Church to the Worlds end viz the power of Reconciliation in the Ministry of the Word Sacraments the power of ordaining and sending others and the power of jurisdicton and government How and into what hands they communicated these severall powers That 's the question Some of the Ancients apprehend it thus That they committed the whole power to those first Elders they placed in every City where the Church was planted so that those first Elders were properly Bishops having power to ordain other Ministers and Labourers as the encrease or extent of the Church required Other Fathers or ancient Writers seem to apprehend those first Elders to be meer Presbyters to whom the whole power was not committed but that afterwards upon the encrease of the Church other speciall Men were intrusted with it to ordain others as need required and as Generall Pastors to rule and over-see the whole Church with all the particular Congregations and Presbyters or inferiour Pastors belonging to it Either way is sufficient for establishing the Episcopall power and government and the Adversaries thereof as they cannot disprove it if we say those first Elders were Bishops properly so neither will they gain any thing if we grant them in courtesy thus much that the first Elders were meer Presbyters For see briefly what they can say against the first or draw from the second Against the first they usually say 1. If those Bishops at Philippi were so properly then were there more than one Bishop in one City or Church Answ This indeed was absurd and inconvenient and never suffered in the Church inlarged and established but in the Church Nascent or beginning it might be very reasonable by way of provision for the future enlargement establishment of that Church So we find 12. Apostles left in the Church of Jerusalem by our Saviour in order to their propagating and governing the Church through the whole World And so in some great Cities where and from which the Gospel might suddenly spread it self the Apostles might provisionally leave more than One Elder vested with power for the supply of the Church enlarged Secondly If the Elders or Bishops mentioned in those places were Bishops properly vested with such power then would the Apostle also have remembred the other sort of Elders between them and Deacons Answ But what if there were not yet in that Church Elders or Presbyters of the second sort For no Church at first was full Or if there were such in that Church why might he not salute both sorts under that general name Bishop Thirdly But then the Apostle did not distinctly set down the Office of the one or the other for having set down the office of a Bishop he presently goes to the Deacon 1 Tim. 3. Tit. 1. 5. Answ It was not the Apostles purpose in those places distinctly to set down the Office of Elders nor of Deacons but the general qualification of the Persons to be admitted to those Offices We may ask of them Where has the Apostle distinctly set down or described the Office of a Lady-Elder They are fain to force it out of one word Ruling 1 Tim. 4. 17. which belongs to the Preaching Elders as they well acknowledge In the places above mentioned the Apostle gives as I said qualifications fitting the Persons of both sorts of Elders that then were or should be in the Church for the duties there hinted teaching ruling do belong to both sorts of Elders but with Subordination of the one to the other And if they will have the word rule 1 Tim. 4. 17. insinuate a distinct Office of Elders from the preaching Elders without any intimation of such an Office anywhere else in Scripture why might not we say with more reason that the same word in the forementioned place 1 Tim. 3. 5. belongs to Bishops of both sorts according to their order and station to rule or take care of the Church of God Especially seeing we shew elsewhere in the same Epistle such a Prelacy or supereminent power of rule given to Timothy distinctly from other Elders as Lay hands suddenly on no man Rebuke not an Elder receive no accusation against an Elder c. cap. 5. v. 19. 22. Like speciall power given to Titus as we see in that Epistle besides all the acts of ordinary power exercised by the Apostles and not communicated in general to Presbyters And so the exhortation of the Apostle Acts 20. 28. might generally fit both sorts of Elders or Bishops supposing those of the inferiour rank present there that they should all of them feed the Flock according to their several stations and in that subordination of Rule which was in the Church But if we grant them that those Elders or Bishops in the above cited places were not Bishops properly but ordinary presbyters What can they draw from thence advantagious either to the Classicall or Congregational pretension when as there is no instance in all Scripture of the Power vested in a Classis or consistory of Presbyters or in every particular Congregation but on the contrary where ever there is mention of the exercising of the power for ordination by laying on hands or for Jurisdiction in rebuking or receiving accusation against an Elder in rejecting Heretiks or the like we find it always done by the Apostles or speciall men appointed thereunto as Timothy Titus Nor is it to any purpose to reply as they doe These were extraordinary men Apostles or Evangelists and so exercised that power as such For albeit in the office of Apostle and Evangelist there was something extraordinary and supposing Timothy Titus may passe under the Title of Evangelists yet the power of ordination and Jurisdiction was ordinary and to continue in the Church and to be communicated unto others as was most convenient What help therefore can the Adversaries have in the Apostles and Evangelists being extraordinary persons unlesse they can shew the power did ordinarily belong to and was exercised by the company of Presbyters or else demonstrate it was left in their hands by expresse and peremptory order from the Apostles So that here they would be non-suited laying their plea only by Scripture against Universall Tradition and practice of the Church for the Scripture story goes not downe to the departure of the Apostles Now after they were gone off it clearly appeared by the practice of the whole Church in what hands the chief power and Government was left viz. not to Presbyters in common but in speciall hands according to the instances and examples of the exercising that power in the Apostles Time The Ancient Records also which continue the Church story from that Time give us the succession of Bishops from the Apostles in the more eminent
those who are against Set Forms see great reason against that too thinking it fit as indeed it is that none should use their gifts publiquely but such as are called allowed and ordained to it by the Church and if so then also should they think it sit that those who are so allowed as publique Ministers in the Congregation should use their gifts so and in such a way as the same Church sees sit and allowes for if these will plead liberty of using their spirituall Gifts against the Constitution of the Church and that by this 14. chapter to the Corinthians then may the other with as good Reason plead Liberty for all gifted men for all that had such gifts as here the Apostle speaks of and seeks to order might have their turn of speaking and using them But they are both out of the way and inconsequent in their reasoning from this Chapter not distinguishing Times and Gifts nor acknowledging duly the Authority of the Church and therefore under pretence of such Gifts pleading for Liberty of using them that is as it often proves of venting what they please in the Congregation whereas they ought in all humility to expect the Churches approbation of their Gifts and then know they must use them with submission still to the Church in such a way as is thought most fit for preventing the above-mentioned inconveniences for preserving Order and Vnity in the Church for setting forth an Vniformity in Gods Worship and upon all these respects for edification of the people Calvin no friend to Popery or sloathfulnesse in Ministers but a person furnished with as great gifts as any of our Pleaders for this Liberty can pretend to is said to have often wished that all the Churches had one and the same Form of publique Service or Liturgy and that upon these Reasons The holding of Unity in the Church and the excluding of Novelty Faction and boasting of Gifts But see whether this Pride of spirit and self conceit for I can call it no otherwise when once it sets it self against the Churches constitution without expresse Scripture has proceeded in some from a despising of the Churches Prayers to an understanding of the Lords Prayer because a Set form and to a neglecting the use of it altogether as far below them then to a conceiting of themselves to be above prayer it self as needing not to pray at all Such I have met with miserably cutting themselves off not onely from the comfort of the prayers of Christs Church on Earth but from the benefit of his intercession in Heaven and evacuating as to themselves the eternal Priesthood of Christ for if they need not pray they need not confesse nor ask forgivenesse nor beg Grace or any spirituall help and so need not the Intercession of Christ for obteining such mercies for his being our Advocate 1 Joh. 2. 1. supposeth our Confession of sin required c. 1. v. 9. and his being our High Priest inferrs our coming to the Throne of Grace Heb. 4. 16. or our coming to God by him Hebr. 7. 25. And as for those that so much prize the prayers of their owne conception to an undervaluing of that which the Lord framed and taught us let them consider how little they deserve his Intercession when they come by him to put up their owne prayers despising or wilfully neglecting his But we knowing the perfection of that prayer which conteins all things fitting to be asked doe often use it in the publick prayers of the Church and alwayes with our own that if any thing needfull be through our imperfection Omitted in our own it may be supplyed in the use of that and knowing that Christ is ready to hear receive the requests of every humble spirit which is carefull to doe and make use of what he has taught us We therefore delight to expresse or to sum up our desires often in his form of words for as Saint Cyprian in his exposition of the Lords Prayer tels us Christ when we beg his intercession using that prayer will acknowledge his own Words will remember the prayer he taught us Thus much of set Forms and Prayers of the Church §. XX Exception against Rites and Ceremonies They farther pretend they cannot hold Communion in the publick Worship of God according to the way and form of the Church of England by Reason of Rites and Ceremonies used therein Here they are chiefly offended at the Habit of the Minister standing up at Creed and Gospel Ring in Marriage Cross in Baptism Kneeling at the Lords Supper Bowing at the Name of Jesus And the reason of their offence is because they take them to be Burthensome and therefore against Christian Liberty yea Superstitious and therefore against purity of Worship For the first Where Ceremonies are burthensome for Number it is a fault in that Church and cause of offence and complaint but not of separation or breaking Communion St. Augustine in his Epist to Januar took notice of the encrease of Ceremonies then and in part complained they began to be burthensome in the Church of Rome the number was excessive before Reformation and gave just Cause to complain of the burthensom observance of them but that was not any Cause of dividing Communion had they not beene many of them burthensome for Weight as well as for Number and insupportable by reason of apparent superstition Now the Ceremonies and Rites reteined in this Church were few for number and eased of that weight or superstition that was in any of them The truth is if the Pretenders of Liberty of Conscience do therefore quarrel at our Rites and Ceremonies as contrary to Christian Liberty because appointed and enjoyned by the Church they do daily shew they use that Liberty as a Cloak for their unruly and contentious Spirits that cannot abide the commands of Authority but would do every thing according to their own devising and will when they have power impose severely Orders and Constitutions of their own for so they do where they can erect their new Communions imposing Conditions of admittance into and of Continuance in that Communion such as they think good but such as Christ or his Apostles never required such as the Catholique Church never knew as for example their Triall by Lay-Elders and denial of Communion or Church-fellowship yea of the Sacrament of Christs Body and Blood to him that will not undergo that Triall or is not approved by it according to those rules they please to use but is found unanswerable to that measure of knowledge or gifts which they expect of which and other devices of theirs we may say as the Apostle did 1 Cor. 11. 17. We have no such Custome nor the Churches of God But in the Rites and Ceremonies of the Church of England they finde Superstition and why because such Rites and Ceremonies were derived from and abused in Popery unto Superstition They were used indeed in the Church of Rome and abused too
Act. 5. what a fearfull judgement was shewn upon Ananias and his Wife for withdrawing part of that he had devoted to the use of the Church That they may fear who are so hardy as to commit greater Sacriledge in taking to their private use what others have applied to the service of the Church And shall I speak the Result of my Thoughts secretly enquiring what might be the Cause wherefore it should please God to suffer the Church of Rome to continue in so powerfull condition notwithstanding all the Errors and profanations taught and practised therein I saw reason wherefore God whose way is in the Sanctuary Ps. 77. 13. secret but holy and just should for the sins and carelesnesse of Christians turning his grace into wantonness suffer after 600 yeares knowledge of his Truth many Errors to enter and prevail generally over the Church and make the word of truth more precious to the end that they which were approved might be manifest 1 Cor. 11. And wherefore he should for the divisions and cares of Christians suffer the Vanity of Mahumetan superstition to gain ground upon the Christian Territories to the punishment of many and the trial of those that were constant But that after it pleased him to make the light of the Gospel break out and the truth appear in the Reformation he should suffer the Church of Rome with all her detected Errors which from the Sixt age of Christianity had prevailed still to continue in power and glory as to the greater part of what it possessed besides that generall reason the lives of Protestants too much unanswerable to the Truth and light God had opened unto them I can finde no speciall one unlesse it be the guilt of sacriledge in most protestant Churches tumultuarily reformed casting out Bishops invading their Office and seizing upon the revenues of their Churches Thus to the dishonour and prejudice of Gods Truth making it a part of their Reformation to cast out that which the Catholick Church had alwayes carefully observed and was yet commendably reteined in the Church of Rome Had the Reformation every where as it did in England reteined the Ancient prayers and form of Liturgy the ancient Government by Bishops and not laid hands on the meanes of the Church the Dagon of Romish Error would every where have faln before it If the prevailing of Sects to the disturbance of this Church be objected against the Regular reformation of it We acknowledge God is just and how now covered the face of this Church with a Cloud in his his Anger and for our sins chiefly who should have kept the charge of his Sanctuary and his holy things We are ready to receive the charge of any Personall failings or neglects in the use of our power Office performance of our Duties according to our severall stations yet let them know they had not sufficient Authority to make Reformation of Personal Abuses but if through our sides they strike as they doe at the Power Office and Function it self and because they conceive us unworthy of the meanes applyed to the Church will therefore take it to themselves let them fear what will follow and what can follow but confusion both from the boundlesse course of Error finding no stay when once it has past the due limits and from the usuall Course of Gods justice punishing deceitfull men with their own pretences feares and delusions For when once the spirit of Error has forsaken the Rule and broken the bounds of lawfull Government which held all together has raised so many humors and impowred so many sects what one way right or wrong can be agreed on setled established It is not imaginable without changing of the Errors and destructive Principles upon which the discord is raised and continued And what can be the end or Issue suitable to such proceedings and to the just judgement of God but that after there has been Levelling upon Levelling and every sect has had its course to the punishment of this sinfull unthankfull Nation we should be exposed to the danger of some forrein power that will impose new Lawes and another Religion upon this people if a more generall humiliation doe not prevent it I doe not mean a Fasting for strife as they did Isa. 58. 4. we have had too much of that already to the greater provocation of Almighty God but a real true repentance in turning every man from his evil way and from the violence that is in their hands as the Ninivites did Jon. 3. 8. It was the Pretence or fear of the Scribes and Pharisees gathered together in their great Councel against Christ Venient Romani if they should suffer him and his doctrine the Romans would come and take away their place and nation Jo. 11. 48. and therefore God in his just judgement did punish them as he threatned Isa. 66. 4. in chusing their delusions and bringing their feares upon them the Romans did come and therefore come and tooke away their Place and Nation because they tooke away Christ and opposed his Gospell and to make the easier way for the Romans to come in severall factions as Iosephus tells us prevailing amongst them ceased not in the mean time to destroy one the other So it was the pretence and this fear was put into the people that if the Church of England and the Governours thereof were suffered to goe on Venient Romani the Romish Religion or Popery would come in and by this fear or jealousy the People were raised against their superiours as the people were then against Christ When as indeed by their pulling down what formerly was well established and by destroying one what the other builds they make fair way for the Romish Religion or the Alcoran or Atheism to come in over their Ruines or through the many breaches made by severall Sects If the Teares and prayers of the obedient Sons of this Church and of those that would live peaceably in the Land doe not prevent it by averting Gods just wrath and procuring a restauration to this Church that it may be a praise again upon Earth There is hope and comfort in the next verse Isa. 66. 5. to them that tremble at the word of the Lord Your brethren that hated yow that cast yow out for my Names sake said Let the Lord be glorified blessing him for the successe of their iniquity or in confidence thereof provoking him to shew his approbation of their Cause and doings by his judgements but he shall appear to your joy and they shall be ashamed The first Ejectors or Levellers of our Time those of the Presbyterian way who cast out and sequestred whom they pleased and tooke possession and said Let the Lord be glorified for their successe great cause have they now it appears what confusion follows upon their beginnings to be ashamed of what they have done I pray God they may and lay it sadly to heart and that all others who have advanced upon