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A00333 Seven dialogues both pithie and profitable The 1 is of the right vse of things indifferent. 2 sheweth what comfort poperie affordeth in time of daunger. 3 is betweene a good woman and a shrew. 4 is of the conversion of a harlot. 5 is of putting forth children to nurse. 6 is of a popish pilgrimage. 7 is of a popish funerall. By W.B.; Colloquia. English. Selections Erasmus, Desiderius, d. 1536.; Burton, William, d. 1616. 1606 (1606) STC 10457; ESTC S121852 117,991 172

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inforce or draw from them But I hope that would be effected in short space if that pestilent goddesse of reuenge which hath committed two most mighty Monarches of the world vnto most deadly warre were gone to the diuell from whence she sprang Fish And I much maruell that this is not already effected séeing as King Francis is so full of humanity as no man more and Emperour Charles I suppose is sufficiently instructed by his tutors that by how much the Lord hath inlarged his Dominions by so much the more should hée adde daily vnto his owne clemency and goodnesse But Surely there is nothing wanting in either of them Fish Why then hath not the whole world that which they so much desire But As yet the Lawyers and Counsellers cannot agrée about the limites of their dominions And you know that the tumults that are in Comedies are all waies shut vp and ended wi●…h marriages and in like manner are the tragedi●…s of Princes But in Comedies marriages are suddainely accomplished but amongst great Personages the matter is with grea●…●…ficulties brought to passe And better it is to haue the wound by leasure brought to head then presen●…ly to haue the soare breake out againe Fish And do you thinke that these marriages are firme bonds of concord But Truely I could wish it were so but euen from hence I sée often times the greatest part of warres to arise and if any warre be begunne while one kinsman bordereth vpon another the fire doth flame out further and is more hardly quenched Fish I confesse it and doe acknowledge it to bee most true that you say But But is it méete thinke you that for the brables of Lawyers and the delaies of marriages the whole world should suffer so much euill For now there is nothing safe and bad men may doe what they list while it is neither peace nor warre Fish It is not for me to talke of Princes counsells but if any would make me an Emperour I know then what I would doe But Well goe to imagine that you are an Emperour and Bishoppe of Rome too if you will what would you doe Fish Nay rather make mee Emperour and French King But Goe to then suppose you are both Fish So soone as I had gotten peace in my land I will send out Proclamation throughout my Kingdome that no man vpon paine of death should touch so much as his neighbours henne And hauing by that means pacified all matters with my owne good or rather I may say with the common good of my people I would then come to a point about the borders or bounds of my dominions or about some conditions of marriage But Haue you no surer bond of peace then marriage Fish Yes I thinke I haue But I pray you shew it Fish If I were Emperour ●…s would I without delay deale with the French King Brother some euill spirite hath stirred vp this warre betwéene vs and yet the contention that hath béene betwéene vs hath not beene to death but for rule onely you for your part haue shewed your selfe a most couragious and valiant warriour Fortune hath fauoured me and hath made you of a King a Captaine that which happened to you might haue fallen vnto me and your calamity doth admonish vs all of humane condition we haue both of vs found by experience that this kinde of contending is discommodious on either side Goe to let vs héereafter contend the contrary way I giue you your selfe and I giue you your liberty I accept of you not as an enemy but as a friend let al former quarrells be buried in obliuion returne vnto your own subiects a frée man and that gratis without any ransome take your goods with you be a good neighbour and hence-forward let vs striue onely about this which of vs shall ouer●…ome other in faithfulnesse in good will and in kinde offices let vs not striue which of vs shal most inlarge our possessions but who shall administer and gouerne that which he hath most holy and vprightly In the former conflict I gat the praise of a fortunate man but in this he that ouercommeth shal winne farre greater glory And truely to me this fame of Clemency shal purchase more true commendation then if I had conquered all France and the fame of your gratitude shall winne you more hono●…r then if you had driuen me out of all Italy Do not you enuy me that honour which I affect and I againe shall so fauour your desire that you shall willingly be a debtor to such a friend Oh what magnificent and plausible renowne would this curtesie winne vnto Charles through the world What Nation would not willingly submitte themselues to a Prince so milde and curteous But You haue played Caesars part very finely Now let me heare what you would doe if you were chéefe Bishoppe Fish It were a long whiles worke to prosecute euery point I will tel you briefly I would deale that all the world should sée that he is the chéefest bishop in the church that thirsteth after nothing but the glory of Christ and the saluation of mens soules And such a course would frée the name of chéefe Bishop from all enuy and would also purchase sound and perpetuall honours But. But to returne to our former matter againe Doe the bishops lawes and const●…tutions bind all that are in the Church to obserue them Fish They do if they be good and confirmed by the autho●…itie of the Prince But. If the constitutions of the Church be of such force why doth God in Deut. so straightly charge that no man shall adde any thing to his lawes or take any thing from the same Fish He doth not adde vnto the law of God which more plainly vnfoldeth that which lay wrapped vp before or which doth suggest that which may make for the obseruation of the law neither doth he detract from the worde of God who according to the ab●…itie of the hearers doth despence the word and law of God reuealing some things and concealing other some as the necessitie of the time shal require But. Suppose that the bishops with the rest of the Church should make a constitution that no man returning from Market should eate meate with vnwashen hands he that should breake this constitution should be in daunger of hell fire Fish I thinke not so vnlesse the fault be aggrauated with contempt of publike authoritie But. ●…ath a maister of a familie the like authoritie in his house that a bishop hath in his Diocesse Fish I thinke he hath according to his proporiion But. And do his commandements bind in like maner Fish Why not But. I commaund that none of my houshold shall eate no Onions or the like what daunger is he in before God that shall breake my commaundement Fish Let him looke to that for it is a breach of the first commaundement But. But I see my next neighbour to be in daunger and when I méete with
with all reuerence And sai●…t Peter doth propound vnto vs the example of Sarah who called her husband Abraham her lord Xa I know that wel enough but the same Paul doth teach also that men ought to loue their wiues as Christ loued the Church his Spouse let him do his duety and I le doe mine Eul. But for all that when the matter is growne to that passe that one must yéeld it is fittest that the wife should yéeld vnto her husband Xant Shall I call him husband that taketh me for his seruant * Eul. Ah my good Xantippe though you be his wife yet you must not thinke scorne to serue him for you gaue him your promise before God and his church that you would obey him and thereunto pledged your troth Xant What must he haue me at commandement his ser●…ant can be no more Eul. Surely wée must be at our husband●…s commaundements if we be we must obey our husbands for euen our band of obedience doth argue a certaine soueraignetie and power in them ouer vs whereby they may commaund vs anie honest and lawfull thing And 〈◊〉 that Almightie God himselfe hath set it downe for a lawe that our desires shall bée subiect to the desires of our hus●…ds Xa What 's that I know not ●…he ma●…ning of these words Eula. Yes Xantippe you know it well enough but perhaps you list not know it because you like it not the meaning is plaine that we must not desire any thing that standes not with our husbands liking and whatsoeuer they affect like that must we like and obey Xant I promise you I d●… not like that there should bée no difference betweene me and my seruaunt with my husband by that reckoning you would haue my husband to be my maister as he is ouer his seruant I like not that Eula. No I knew that well enough for by nature wé●… cannot abide subiection of all things we desire to bear●…rule vntill God shall by his grace regenerate our hearts and giue vs humble spirits Xant I hope I am regenerate and haue the grace of God though I suffer not my husband to be my maister Eula. Therein you deceiue your selfe for if we be truly regenerate and borne anew by the spirit of grace we will neuer think much to submit our selues to the ordinance of God who hath set it downe that we must be in subiection to our husbands Xant That is true indéed but by Gods ordinance I am his wife and not his seruant Eula. Yes Xantippe therefore you ought to serue him because you are his wise or else when you were married vnto him why did you make him such a solemne promise of obedience and for the performaunce thereof pawne your troth Now if we make no conscience of such a solemne promise whereunto God and Gods Angels and Gods Church are witnesses then is our tr●…th forfeyted and we are to be helde for false creatures neither is any word that euer we speake to be held of any credite Xant Well yet for all that he should vse me as his wife and not as his seruant Eula. Oh that word seruant sticketh sore in your stomack but marke my good Xantippe of seruants there be two sorts bond seruants and frée seruants now though you are to serue and obey your husband yet it is not the nature of a bond or hired seruant that serueth onely for wages but as a frée seruant and his fellow and so long as we willingly submit our selues vnto this ordinance of God our seruice is no bondage but a fréedome for we are frée of our husbands all that they haue and are to receiuè from them againe all maintenance and protection familiaritie and comfort which fréedome and priuiledge no hired or bond seruant can looke for at his maisters hands Xant If we be frée then are they not to command vs. Eula. Not so good friend now you mis-take for though we be frée of our husbands all that they haue that is of bed and boord and familiarity and maintenance from them yet it doth not follow that therefore we must not obey them or that we may be our owne caruers of that which they haue at our plesure and whether they will or no. Xant If we be frée as you say we are why may we not be our own caruers or why should we be cōmanded as seruāts Eula. Because we are vnder a law which hath made vs subiect to their power and authoritie For though a man bée a noble man and a Lord and hath tenants vnder him yet is he also a subiect and must obey his Prince as one that liueth vnder a law and yet though a Lord or a fréeholder are to obey the law and to doe seruice for their Prince yet are they not in the nature of the Princes hired seruants or bond seruants which are daily about him and take wages but are as frée subiects and do enioy their goods and lands c. vnder the Princes protection and liue in great liberty and are called by their Prince with swéet words of great loue princely kindnesse as our louing subiects and sometimes our trustie welbeloued if they be of their Councell but not our louing seruants so they write to those that are of their houshold and serue for wages And so a wife though she is ●…o serue her husband as his subiect yet he doth not therefore call her his seruant but both in writing and speaking calleth her his beloued wife or his trustie and deare beloued spouse c. And to me this is a cleare case Xan. This is more I confesse than euer I heard or cōsidered of in all my life I will find a time to consider better of it Eula. In so doing you shall do well * But tell me my Xantippe afterward your husband left threatning to beat you did he not Xant Yes that he did and was the wiser man for that or else he would haue beene beaten himselfe Eula. But you did not giue ouer brawling with him Xant No nor neuer will if he giue me cause Eula. That is not well spoken for we must beare but what doth he in the meane time while you chide and brawle Xant What sometimes he sléepeth sometimes he doth nothing but laugh somtimes he taketh his Lute sits thrumming on that as loud as he can when it hath scarce 3. strings vpon it and al to interrupt my speaches or drowne my voice Eula. And doth not that anger you Xant Anger me quoth you I cannot expresse how much he vexeth me I am so chafed with it that it goeth euen to the heart of me sometime I haue much ado to hold my hands Eula. My good Xantippe will you giue me leaue to speake fréely vnto you Xant I do giue you leaue say on Eula. What maner of mā soeuer your husband be yet think this with your selfe there is no changing for another Sometimes were cō tentiōs where