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A87004 A discovery of the latitude of the loss of the earthly paradise by original sin. Occasioned by a disputation betwixt Mr. Matthias Rutton, min: of Boughton Munchalse in Kent, and the author hereof; branched out in these particulars, as followeth: I. First, an examination of his apologetical letter, with a full answer thereunto. II. Secondly, six arguments to prove that original sin exposed Adam and his posterity but to the first death. III. Thirdly, a discovery of the false and corrupted ministers by ten characters. IV. Fourthly, a discovery of the true ministers by ten characters. / By George Hammon, pastor to the Church of Christ meeting in Biddenden in Kent. Hammon, George. 1655 (1655) Wing H502; Thomason E1680_1; ESTC R209154 79,445 216

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be saved but the Lord shall cut the work short in righteousness so that when his people are in great trouble then he shall stand up as a Deliverer Dan. 11.1 Matth. 24.21.22 View well these Scriptures and you shal see that that opinion is false that affirmeth That the Saints shall flourish in such a condition before mentioned while they live in this corrupted Tabernacle of flesh and so I pass to the Third Particular shewing you how Christ and the Saints shall reign together in the Kingdom and shall begin with the words of the Apostle which saith that the Saints are joynt-heirs with Jesus Christ in these words If Sons then Heirs Heirs of God and Joynt-heirs with Christ if so be that we suffer with him that we may bee glorified together Rom. 8.16 17. Now we know a Joynt-heir is an equal sharer or when two are made alike in the injoyment of one thing for so faith the Apostle Now are we the Sons of God but it doth not appear what we shall be but when he shall appear wee shall be made like him 1 Joh. 3.1 2 3 4. they shall be like him in Glory in Majesty in Honour in a word every way like him only he in all things shall have the preheminence Moreover I shall adde a plain text of Scripture in the which we shall see that the Saints and Christ shall reign together in these words Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first Resurrection for on such the second Death shall have no power but they shall be the Priests of God and of Christ and reign with him a thousand years The which also agreeth with the words of the Prophet that saith A King shall reign in Righteousness and Princes shall decree Judgement and Saviours shall come up of Mount Sion and judge the Mount of Esau and the Kingdoms shall be the Lords Revel. 20.6 Isa. 32.1 Obadiah 21. therefore let the Saints be joyful in glory let them sing aloud upon their beds let the high praise of God be in their mouthes and a two-edged sword in their hands to execute vengeance upon the Heathen and punishment upon the people to bind the Kings in chains and the Nobles in fetters of Iron that they may execute upon them the Indgement that is written this honour have all the Saints praise yee the Lord so that it is a faithful saying if we suffer with him we shall also reign with him Psal. 149.5 6 7 8 9. 2 Tim. 2 12. So having shewed that Christ and the Saints shall reign together unanimously I shall also shew you that excellent peace that there shall be in the time of his reign throughout the Earth as saith the Prophet The whole Earth is at rest and quiet they shall break forth into singing the Mountains and Hills shall bring peace unto the people by Justice hee shall judge the poor of the people and he shall save the Children of the needy and subdue the Oppressors they shall fear thee so long as the Sun and Moon indureth from generation to generation he shall come down like the raine upon the new-mowen Grasse and as the showers that water the earth in his days shall the righteous flourish and abundance of peace so long as the Moon indureth his Dominion shall be from sea to sea and from the rivers to the ends of the earth and they that dwell in the Wilderness shall kneel before him and his enemies shall lick up the dust in that day it shall be said wee have a strong City salvation hath the Lord appointed for Walls and Bulworks open yee the Gate that the righteous Nation that keepeth the truth may enter in thou wilt keep him in perfect peace whose minde is stayed on thee because he trusteth in thee Isa. 14.7 Psal. 72.3 4 5 6 7 8 9. Isa. 26.1 2 3. From hence wee may see what great peace there shall be in the term of Christs reign there is good reason why there shall be such great peace upon these two accounts the first is Because the Devil shall be bound and shall not stirre up Nations to Warre which is his practise when he is loose The second Reason is Because that at the great destruction of God the Great Antichrist all the Weapons of Warre shall be burnt and those that remain which were not brought up to Warre upon the Mountains of Israel shall bee converted into other service namely Their Swords shall be beat into Plow-shares and their Spears into pruning-hooks for Nation shall not rise up against Nation neither shall they learn warre any more Ezek. 39.9 10. Isa. 2.4 Mich. 4.3 Revel. 20.3 From hence it comes to pass that the people in that day shall be led forth in peace and the Mountains shall break forth before them into singing then shall the Law go forth out of Sion and the Word of the Lord out of thy Jerusalem then shall the saying be made good that is written All thy Children shall be taught of God and great shall be the peace of thy Children So that be will extend peace to her like a River and the glory of the Gentiles like a flowing stream Isa. 2.3 cap. 54.13 cap. 55.12 Isa. 66.10 11 12 13 14. Psal. 127.7 and 125.5 Nah. 1.15 and so I shall leave these Scriptures and the Fourth and pass to the Fifth thing in order which is to shew you the people whom Christ and the Saints shall thus rule with a rod of Iron and that is the ungodly even such as have afflicted the people of God and the Sons of them who have afflicted the people of God for so saith the Prophet The Sons also of them that afflicted thee shall come bending unto thee and all they that despised thee shall fall down at the soals of thy feet and they shall call thee the City of the Lord the Sion of the holy one of Israel Agreeing with that of Malachy To you that fear my Name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing under his wings and yee shall grow forth like Calves in the shall and yee shall tread down the wicked for they shall be like dust under the soals of your feet for thus saith the Lord after this glory hath he sent me unto the Nations which spoyled you for he that toucheth you toucheth the apple of mine eye for behold I will lift up my hands upon them and they shall be a spoyl to their Servants and yee shall know that the Lord of Host hath sent me Sing and rejoyce O Daughter of Sion for I will come and dwell in the midst of thee faith the Lord Mal. 4.2 3 4. Zech. 2.8 9 10. Hence you may see that the enemies of God and his people shall be subdued by Christ and the Saints like as the Aegyptians of old were spoyled by the Israelites when they came out of Aegypt so shall all the ungodly Aegyptians be spoyled at the last as you may see Exod. 3.22 Cap. 11.2 Isa.
was counted as strange doctrine and searched the Scriptures daily to see whether those things were so or no even so although many of these particulars may be counted erroneous yet prove thy self a noble Berean to search the Scriptures to see whether it be so or no Moreover do not count it a strange thing that the truest Doctrines that ever was should be questioned and counted Heresie for the learned Scribes and Pharisees did question Christ to know where he had his Doctrine and said He hath a Devil and is mad The Apostle Paul also was called a pestilent fellow a teacher of strange Doctrines a ring-leader of Sectaries a turner of the world up-side down and what not Yet as the Apostle saith After the manner they called Heresie so worshipped he the God of his Fathers believing all that was written Even so say I that if any thing that I have written in this Treatise doe not agree with the Word of God and the doctrine according to godliness I shall give thanks to any man that will inform me of it and also renounce it but as the Apostle Paul saith in another case I judge I have the Spirit of God and speak the Truth Moreover Christian Reader know that we are in the last age upon whom the very end of the world is come in which last age that great howr of temptation shall be the which shall try all them that dwell upon the face of the whole Earth therefore very profitable for us to look into the Prophecies of the last Times that being fore-warned they may be fore-armed and in order to the stability of thy mind I have in the following Treatise set before thy view the glorious Paradise the which the Lord gave unto his Son Adam and although he lost it by transgression yet I have shewed thee that it shall be restored again by the Lord Jesus into that primitive glory at his second appearance and Kingdom Moreover I have shewed you what a glorious inheritance God will give to his Son Jesus which is the Man from Heaven So that although the earthly Mans earthly Paradise was glorious yet the heavenly Mans heavenly Paradise shall be farr more glorious it is that new Jerusalem the Walls whereof are garnished with all manner of precious stones the Streets whereof is pure gold like to transparent glasse the which Paradise shall not be of the Earth or from the Earth although it shall be placed upon the new Earth but as I have shewed in the Treatise it shall come down out of Heaven from God being that City which faithfull Abraham looked for which had foundations whose maker and builder was God it shall be the glorious habitation of Christ in the day of his raign and all that are saved shall walk in the light of it which City hath no need of the Sun Moon or Stars for the Lamb shall be the light of it Curteous Reader assure thy self that the Godly who have died in the Faith did see these things in promises although they were afar off and did imbrace them and did acknowledge themselves Strangers and Pilgrims on the Earth and they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a Countrey which is a heavenly one wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God for he hath prepared for them a City and it was that glorious inheritance which made faithfull Moyses slight Pharaohs Royal Diadem and refuse to be called the Son of Pharaohs Daughter choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season for he had an eye to the recompence of reward so that faith is the evidence of things not seen Moreover courteous Reader I desire thee not to slight the matter contained herein because of any prejudice thou mayst have against the Author so desiring the Lord to open thy understanding I shall rest but not to pray for thy endlesse happinesse by Christ in glory Thy unworthy Friend G. H. The Sum of a Dispute betwixt a Teacher of the Anabaptists and the Minister of Baughton where by Providence they met August 16. 1654. THe Anabaptist as appeared by his heat being much troubled at a Sermon delivered by the Minister wherein he proved plainly by Scripture That such as he was were the Messengers of Satan and delivered Satans Message fell upon the Minister with abusive words afterwards they entred into Disputation the Question was Whether there were any such Sin as Original sin the Anabaptist denied it the Minister urged an Argument from the example of David confessing that hee was shapen in iniquity and in sin did his Mother conceive him Psal. 51.5 to prove there was The Anabaptist answered That the meaning of that place was this not that David himself was corrupted or defiled with sin but that hee was shapen and conceived in a sinful Woman Which answer will appear to any man that hath but common sense to be not only false but also most absurd and ridiculous for David as will plainly appear to him that reads that Psalm speaks only of himself confesseth his own Sin only and this Original sin as the root and fountain of all the rest there was not so much as a thought of time betwixt his Natural being and his Sinful being Corruption did accompany the very first degree of his Conception I was shapen in iniquity and in sin did my Mother conceive me And he praies for the forgiveness of this sin among the rest After many words past the Anabaptist unsatisfied objected That the Minister never read of any Childe that was Damned therefore no such Sin which deserved eternal Death his reason was because eternal Death is only the wages of actual sin which the Minister denied and instanced in Esau reprobated from all eternity Rom. 9.11 12 13. The Anabaptist answerd That that was for Esaus actual transgression and cited Jeremy falsly but the words named are in Amos 1.3.6.9 For three Transgressions of Damascus and for Four I will not turn away the punishment thereof and so the sixth and ninth of Gaza and Tyrus which text is as farre from the purpose as Baughton is from Rome It appears plainly from the Apostle that the words cited by the Minister Esau have I hated are concerning Gods purpose in Election and Reprobation and not for any actual Sin committed by Esau or good done by Jacob for the Children not being yet born mark that neither having done good or evil mark that that the purpose of God according to election might stand vers. 11. it is written Jacob have I loved but Esau have I hated What will the Anabaptists say now they say it is unjust for God to Damn those that never committed Actual Sin the Apostle would stop their blasphemous mouthes vers. 14. What shall we say then is there unrighteousness with God God forbid saith he Hath not the Potter power over the Clay to make one Vessel for honour and another for
dishonour ver. 21. The Anabaptist still obstinate the Minister urged another Argument to prove some Children were Damned and not for Actual sin therefore for Original and therefore there was such sin as we call Original the Argument was taken out of Jude vers. 7. where it is said that Sodom and Gomorrah and the Cities about them suffered the vengeance of eternal fire in which Cities no doubt but there were some Children which never had sinned actually and these with the rest suffered the vengeance of eternal fire The Anabaptist answered by shewing the meaning of Eternal The word Eternal saith he is there to be understood for consuming which is as ridiculous and absurd as the rest our ordinary fire is consuming it consumes the Wood or other matter that nourisheth it and so at last it self is extinguished but this eternal fire never goeth out neither doth it consume those it burns the wicked burn eternally that is for ever and are never consumed so the answer implyes a contradiction To make this his Exposition good he cited a place of St. Mat. 10.15 It shall be more tollerable for Sodom and Gomorrah in the Day of Judgement than for that City that will not receive the Apostles more tollerable that is saith he being holpen by one of his Disciples Sodom and Gomorrah shall be excused but that Exposition they can never make good more tollerable said the Minister that is they shall not receive so severe a Sentence they shall receive lesser Damnation but not be wholly excused This he proved by reason for more is the Comparative degree and is a relative term and respects the same thing then strenghened this reason by Scripture Mat. 23.14 Yee shall receive greater damnation there is Damnation for them because they devoured widows houses but greater damnation because they made long prayer their pretence more tollerable then doth not imply that they were wholly excused but received lesser punishment The Anabaptist then began to urge an Argument that no Children were Damned the Minister perceiving that this was to run round in a circle not able to indure the cold longer being not yet fully recovered of sickness the Anabaptist began to cry Victory by railing on the Ministers Were not those people given over to a reprobate sense to strong delusions to beleeve lyes they could never force such interpretations upon Scripture The Lord open their eyes that they may see the truth and convert and be healed Mat. Rutton Min. An Answer to a Letter of Master Matth. Rutton Minister of Baughton as he so calleth himself sent to a friend of mine in order to the Vindication of a Dispute between him and myself at Baughton where wee accidentally met to his friend Master Mat. Rutton as followeth SIR WHereas you were pleased to affirm in your Letter I was troubled about a Sermon you delivered in the which you writ you proved such as I am to be the Ministers of Satan for the which cause you say I fell upon you with abusive words Sir I pray you do not forget your self for I began not with you neither did I give you any abusive words neither did I know that you had delivered such a Sermon as you confess in which you rendered me and such as I am to be so odious although I had heard before that you did usually rail much as your Predecessors did against Christ and his Apostles saying they were Deceivers pestilent Fellows and turners of the World upside down though Michael the Arch-Angel when he was Disputing with the Devil about the body of Moses did not bring a rayling accusation but left it to God with these words The Lord rebuke thee But I pray remember that your Neighbour of whom you at that instant received Tithes after he had paid it asked you in much mildness of speech Why you did rail so much against the Baptists and you presently said they were Anabaptists for you said the word in the Greek signified again and you Baptizing Persons again are called Anabaptists at the which words I could no less than make answer saying That for my part I did dis-own Baptizing of any persons again who were once truly Baptized according to Christs appointment and more-over I said That sprinkling a little water in a Childes face in its Infancy was not Baptism but a cousening shift brought in by Pope Innocentius the Third and then you replied and said That Baptizo signified Sprinkling as well as Dipping the which I denied and shewed you there was no correspondency between the word Baptizo and Rantizo in their significations to prove one and the same thing the one signifying to dip to plunge to sink to over-whelm in water the other word to sprinkle to scatter here or there or to disperse abroad on divers parts of the body then all that you had more to say in the behalf of that was That it was set down so in the Book of Common Prayer and when you could say no more to that you cried out against them viz. the Baptists for broaching of gross Errors and instanced that of Original sin to which I said that for my part I did beleeve That all the Sons and Daughters of Adam were not only under the guilt of it but also groan under the punishment of it untill this day although you falsly writ in your Letter that I denyed that there was such a Sin as Original sin and yet you may remember that you made me this answer Though I did beleeve that there was such a sin yet there were many of my adherents that did beleeve there was no such sin and Sir then I went on to deal plainly with you and shewed you what that first Sin of Adam in Paradise which is usually called Original Sin did incur and made all his Children liable to the which * I affirm to be the first Death with sickness weakness and all such infirmities with the loss of all Paradisical injoyments and not Damnation in Hell which is only the desert of sins against God manifested in Christ which brought a second state of life and that you may see clearly in the pronunciation of the Sentence by God to Adam in Gen. 3. from the fourteenth to the twentieth where he tells him That in sorrow he should eat bread with the sweat of his brows until thou return unto the ground for out of it wast thou taken This was the punishment God laid upon Adam and his Posterity for that Sin Dust thou art and to dust thou shalt return Hence it cometh to pass that both righteous and unrighteous suffer alike whereby wee may see Gods Justice must be satified and so much briefly as to the Sin which you call Original or more properly to the punishment thereof And now in order I shall come to the one and fiftieth Psalm vers. 5. these words Behold I was shapen in iniquity and in sin did my mother conceive me In which words there appeareth no such thing as
Vessels of honour and yet some hee made Vessels of dishonour To that I anwser It is very true that hee did make some of that Lump Vessels of honour but they were such as were pricked in their heart for their sins * and did purifie their heart through beleeving and obeying the truth and so Christ became the Author of their eternal Salvation Heb. 5.9 1 Pet. 1. vers. 22. for it was that which the Lord hath promised Souls that did purge themselves from the unbeleef in their hearts as you may see 2 Tim. 2.20 But in a great House there are not only Vessels of Gold and of Silver but also of Wood and of Earth and some to honour and some to dishonour vers. 21. if a man therefore purge himself from these he shall be a vessel unto honour sanctified and meet for the Masters use and prepared unto every good work And now I shall give you a brief review of those words that the Apostle Paul makes use of Rom. 9. they are the words of the Prophet Ieremy Jer. 18.1 to 17. and so onwards And the Word of the Lord came unto me saying Go down to the Potters house and there will I cause thee to hear my words and I went down to the Potters House and behold he wrought a work on the wheel and the vessel that he made with clay was marred in the hands of the Potter and he made another Vessel as seemed the Potter good to make it then the Word of the Lord came unto me saying O House of Israel can I not do with you as this Potter saith the Lord Behold as the clay is in the Potters hands so are yee in my hands O House of Israel At what instant I speak concerning a Nation or Kingdom to pluck up or destroy If that Nation turn from their evil I will repent of the evil I thought to do unto them but in what instant I speak concerning a Nation or Kingdom to build or to plant it if they do evil in my sight then will I repent of the good wherewith I said I would benefit them now therefore go speak to the men of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem saying thus saith the Lord Behold I frame evil against you and devise a device against you return every one of you from his evil way and make your ways and your doings good but they said there is no hope but we wil wa●●● after our own devices c. and in vers 17. he threatens to shew them his back and not the face in the day of their Calamity the which wee may see the Lord brought upon them and yet he was just when he judged and thus you see the Apostle answereth the Objection and shews the Jews Rom. 9. what the Lord had determined concerning them and also made known by the Prophet Jeremy that hee could according to the truth of his Justice if they remained obstinate in doing evil in his sight make them a dishonourable Vessel as well as the Potter could make that Clay which was not yeelding and conformable to his hands a vessel of dishonour Thus I have shewed you the words of the Prophet and the meaning of the Apostle that he doth not stop the mouthes of those persons that say the Lord of the whole earth cannot do unrighteousness and therefore cannot Condemn the Childe and cast it into Hell for the Fathers sin neither can he Reprobate any but for their actual sin but hee stops the mouthes of those Jews and all such as they are who do question why God might finde fault although they before have given him just cause of offence Mal. 3.8 The next thing you affirm is not true wherein you said I did affirm That that fire which Saint Jude calls eternal fire was meant only consuming fire though it was consuming indeed yet I did not affirm that to bee the only meaning of it but you may remember I said by the word eternal fire was meant such a fire as was not kindled by man neither did it happen in the City by accident but it issued forth from God being not kindled by man and so was as eternal as himself for the breath of the Lord was ever a fire to his enemies Dan. 7.10 From hence it is said of him in Hebr. 11.29 Our God is a consuming fire the which fire did destroy the Natural bodies of the Sodomites and that eternal fire was not Hell as you blindly conceive but it was such fire as the Prophet commanded to come down from Heaven to destroy the Captains and their Fifties which was as eternal as that of Sodom being without kindling by man or without end and it came not out of Hell but from Heaven and so you may see it Gen. 19.24 in these words Then the Lord rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and sire from the Lord out of Heaven and this was for the destruction of no more but their Natural bodies for it is not Gods way to afflict the punishment of Hell before he hath tried Souls at the general Judgement which shall not be till after the Resurrection for the Sentence against the first sin and the punishment thereof which was the first death was not inflicted upon Adam till after God had legally tried him and Sir let me tell you that the very Devils are not yet in Hell but their punishment is reserved until the Day of Judgement Iude vers. 6. Matth. 8.29 Why art thou come to torment us before the time Which sheweth plainly that the punishment of reprobate Angels and reprobate Men is not yet inflicted but hath reference to time and Sir if I should ask you where Hell were what answer would you give me you would happily tell mee it was where the Wrath of God was and then I shall conclude that Hell were under your Coat for Christ saith Ioh. 3.36 That he that beleeveth not the wrath of God abideth on him for ever And truly Sir if your faith should be tried by your works as Iames saith it must be then doubtless you would be found altogether unbeleeving and if so then according to the former words of our blessed Saviour That the wrath of God abides on such so that if you do conclude Hell to bee in all places where the Wrath of God is though I do indeed conclude that there shall be a material place of Hell where the Wrath of God shall remain perpetually then Hell must of necessity be at the place aforesaid And if you do conclude it to bee on the Earth or under the Earth as some foolishly have conceived then it is most evident that the Devils are not yet in Hell for he is called the Prince of the Air and hence it comes to pass that the Devil is many times cast down by the Judgements of God so that if you have any reason to prove Hell to be yet in being then you might have some better ground to say the