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A30890 John Barclay his vindication of the intercession of saints, the veneration of relicks and miracles, against the sectaries of the times Book II. Chap. VII. Englished by a person of quality. With allowance.; Parænesis ad sectarios. Book 2, Chapter 7. English. Barclay, John, 1582-1621. 1688 (1688) Wing B716; ESTC R215790 13,055 23

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this Place be more over Venerable for the Name of some Martyr the Affection of the Rememberer recommends by its Prayers the beloved Soul to the same Martyr which Affection shewn to the Deceased by their most dear and faithful Friends undoubtedly profits those who whilst they were living in the Body deserv'd that such things should after this Life be profitable to them There is in this no Exclamation no Apostrophe These Fathers sincerely and plainly declare their own and the Churches sense I would here says my Author willingly Address my Discourse to the Almoner of the most Serene King of Great Britain Him does the King him do many others believe and he is so often in fault as he causes others to offend Let him therefore consider how great his Error is in denying it to be St. Augustin's Opinion that the Martyrs should be Invocated In his answer to the Apology of the most Illustrious Cardinal Bellarmine he speaks thus Now we consent to St. Augustine that the Body of the Protomartyr should be conveniently Honour'd since Almighty GOD was pleas'd to work some Miracles by it But that he wrought those Miracles by the Invocation of Saints is an Addition of the Cardinals own For the Martyrs are not Invocated by St. Augustine Nay the Martyrs are Invocated by St. Augustine unless we refuse to believe Augustine himself For what can be plainer than that Sentence 'T is not to be doubted but the Affection of the Faithful profits the Deceased when they recommend their Souls to the Martyrs Why do you persuade the King why do you persuade your self otherwise I call upon the Martyrs whom you will not have call'd upon I willingly with Reverence beseech them that they would obtain for you from our Lord this Faith which you reject and that the last Night may not close your Eyes before you have abjur'd the darkness of Heresy in the Light of the Church But we are commanded in the Scriptures to have recourse to GOD. Why then should we Address our selves to Saints O brave new Wisdom Was the Church Ignorant of this Did not the Fathers know it Nay we are admonish'd that we may very much be assisted by the Prayers of good Men and when we repair to the Saints we go to GOD. For far be it from us to expect any thing from the Saints but what they shall obtain for us of our Lord. They can do nothing of themselves We desire nothing from them but their Prayers And why should St. Peter and St. Paul famous for the Purity of their Lives and their triumphant Constancy at their Death be less prevalent Advocates with Almighty GOD than such contemptible Wretches as you or I who are daily guilty of new Offences What shall I say of the Angel whom GOD has plac'd as a Guardian over every one of us Would'st thou have an Assistant of so great Power and so great Splendour be Unsaluted Wouldst not thou of thy own accord recommend thy self to him to whom thou art committed by Almighty GOD. But some of you indeed deny others are ignorant that there are any such Spirits present with us I have seen an Aged Sectary who though fierce and daily disputing against us yet deny'd he had ever before heard it to be the Papists Opinion that there was an Angel Assign'd for the keeping of every particular Person Nor is to be doubted said he but this Fiction had its Original from the Domestick and Familiar Gods of the Gentils Forbear Sectary thy ill Language We have this Belief from the Holy Scriptures and not from the Fooleries of the Heathen For that People and Provinces have their Angels who take care of their Affairs thou findst in Daniel Chap. 10. Where Michael is said to be Prince of the Jews another of the Persians and another of the Grecians And that such Spirits are given to every particular Person we are Taught in St. Matthew Chap. 18. ver 10. Where our Saviour says See that he despise not one of these little ones for I say to you that their Angels in Heaven do always see the Face of my Father which is in Heaven Upon which place St. Hierom in his Commentary on St. Matthew has these Words Great is the Dignity of Souls that every one of them from its first Being should have an Angel appointed for its Guardian The same Father on the Death of Paula says I take to witness our Lord JESVS and his Saints and the very Angel himself who was Keeper and Assistant of this admirable Woman that I speak nothing Partially after the custom of Flatterers But you complain of the Veneration and Respect we give the Saints Because GOD alone say you is to be Worshiped And St. Paul in his Epistle to the Colossians chap. 11. v. 18. Forbids Christians to be seduc'd in the Humility and Religion of Angels In fine the Angel which shew'd St. John the Vision of the Apocalypse suffer'd not himself to be Worship'd by him These Objections O Sectaries are frequently in your Mouths and as often and as often answer'd by Us. To Worship is a Word of dubious signification Some Worship is due to GOD alone Whoever bestows this on Man Angel or Saint can never avoid being guilty of Idolatry There is another Worship or Reverence Pay'd by the Inferior to the Superior without either believing him to be GOD or Venerating him as such With this all Princes Kings Angels and Saints are to be respected according to their Degrees and Dignities The one as the Images of GOD on Earth the other as the Domesticks of GOD in Heaven And that thou mayst not doubt but the Word Worship is in the Scriptures apply'd to those Honours which may be Lawfully given to Creatures thou findest in written of Abraham Gen. 23. v. 7. And Abraham Arose and Worshipped Adoravit the People of the Land to wit the Children of Heth. And of Nathan the Prophet 't is said 3 Kings ch 1. v. 23. And when he was come in before the King and had Worship'd adorasset him with his Face to the Ground To the Words of the Apostle forbiding the Humility and Religion of Angels St. Chrysostom has long since answer'd in his seventh Homily on the Epistle to the Colossians telling us That by these words is forbidden the Heresie which reputed Angels for Inferior Gods as if by them and not by CHRIST we must be reconcil'd and have Access to the Father Which Heresie was by the Antients attributed to Simon Magus Nor has St. Augustin more slightly answer'd the Argument you bring out of the Apocalypse who in his 51st Question on Genesis says that from the Majesty of the Expressions which the Angel us'd for he had before ch 1. v. 11. said in the Person of our Lord I am the first and the last c. St. John thought 't was Christ and not an Angel that spake to him And that the Angel therefore forbad St. John to give him the Honour which was
lib. 5. cap. 18. There thou wilt read what a concourse of Christians there was when in the Reign of Julian the Apostate the Bones of St. Babilas were to be remov'd from the Suburb Daphne to Antioch and that together with the Women and Children rejoycing and singing Psalms they carried the Coffin Yea that Every one of them going before began to dance and that there were present at the Solemnity Men and Women young Men and Maids Old Men and Children Evagrius lib. 1. cap. 16. writes that the Bones of St. Ignatius were at the Command of Theodosius the Great Translated with exceeding Honour to Antioch For which cause says he there is even to our Age kept a Solemn Feast of common Joy. See how great and how much approv'd this Veneration was of which 't was thought fit to keep an Annual Commemoration Thou findst in St. Hierom against Vigilantius that the Bones of the Prophet Samuel were in his time brought from Palastine to Constantinople by the Command of Arcadius All the Bishops says he carried in a golden Vessel those Reliques wrapt in Silk He adds That the People of all the Churches went to meet the Holy Reliques which they received with as much Joy as if they had seen the Prophet present and alive So that from Palastine even to Chalcedon the Swarms of People were joyn'd together sounding forth with one voice the Praises of CHRIST With what Reverence also the Bones of St. Chrysostom were receiv'd when they were thirty five years after his Decease Translated to Constantinople thou hast related by Theodoret a Writer of that Age who in his Ecclesiastical History lib. 5. cap. 36. says thus The Faithful Assembly of Men making the Sea as it were a Continent by the Multitude of their Ships cover'd with the Lights the mouth of the Bosphorus lying near Propontis Nor mayst thou say that these were as Funural Honours which were in this manner given to the Saints and that Reliques were not in that Age remov'd unless it were from one Monument to another Nay Sectary these Sacred Pledges were for the avoiding of danger and the more Solemn Invocating of Almighty GOD brought forth of the Churches and sometimes carried even into the Camp. Evagrius lib. 1. cap. 13. relates That he saw the Head of St. Simeon the Monk sent to Philippicus the Emperors Son-in-Law who desir'd that some Reliques of Saints should be sent him To the end he might more successfully perform his Military Expeditions in the East And hence you see that 't is neither new nor any way Injurious to the Saints if their Reliques are divided into parts that they may be distributed to many For that Simeon was not Beheaded but having dy'd a Natural Death his Body was by the Christians not Disrespectfully torn in Pieces but Reverently and Piously divided Thou readest moreover in St. Augustin de Civit. Dei lib. 22. cap. 8. that the Reliques of St. Stephen were dispers'd in several places up and down Africk as at the Tibilitan Waters in the Castle of Synes at Calama Audituras Vzali and Hippo That they were Reverenc'd that Miracles were every where wrought at them By the Martyr by the Martyrs help at the Martyrs Request These are the Words of St. Augustin A person of very great Quality but alas a Sectary in whose Presence there was accidentally some Discourse concerning this so great Consent of our Ancestors in Venerating Reliques desirous not to dissolve but captiously to elude this Argument said that these were some Remains of the Idolatry then newly Abolish'd at which the Bishops of those times conniv'd that they might not seem altogether to oppose the Peoples Inclination O whoever thou art acknowledge the Vitiousness of Heresie which forces her Patrons on these Absurdities For if this had its Original from the Evil of Idolatry and not from Christian Vertue why did the Bishops themselves not only suffer it in the People but Instruct them in it as a part of Religious Piety Why did they refer the Rites and Solemnities of this Veneration to Almighty GOD as their Author Why also did GOD assert these things by Miracles For thou mayst hear no Unlearned nor Ignorant Person but the great St. Augustin who in his Confessions lib. 9. cap. 7. says thus Then didst thou in a Vision discover to thy aforemention'd Prelate St. Ambrose in what place lay conceal'd the Bodies of thy Holy Mortyrs St. Protasius and St. Gervasius which thou hadst for so many years reserv'd uncorrupted in Secret that thou mightst seasonably bring them forth to restrain a Feminine but Royal Fury to wit of Justina Augusta Mother to Valentinian who was an Arian and a great Enemy to the Catholicks For when these Bodies being digg'd up and brought forth were with fitting Honour Translated to Ambrose 's Cathedral not only those who were tormented with unclean Spirits as the same Devils confess'd were Cur'd but a certain Citizen also well known in the City who had ben many years blind having enquir'd and being told the Cause of the Multitudes rejoycing started up on a sudden and desir'd his Guide to lead him thither Whether being brought he besought Admission to touch with an Hankerchief the Bier of thy Saints whose Death was Precious in thy Sight Which he had no sooner done and put it to his Eyes but they were presently opened The same St. Augustin in his Treatise of the City of GOD lib. 22. cap. 8. has these words When Bishop Projectus brought the Reliques of the most glorious Martyr St. Stephen to the Tibilitan Waters there was a great Meeting and Flocking of the People to that place in Honour and Memory of the Saint There it happen'd that a certain Blind-woman begg'd she might be led to the Bishop as he was carrying those Holy Pledges She gave him some Flowers which she had brought along with her They were again return'd to her She put them to her Eyes and immediatly saw All the Company being in a maze she joyfully led the way alone having now no need of any one to guide her In the same place he relates many very great Miracles and as he says well known to himself wrought in several places at the Reliques of St. Stephen Amongst the rest five rais'd from the Dead some of which carri'd to the Reliques whilst to others their Garments having first touch'd the Reliques were apply'd to them after their Deaths How would ye O Sectaries hiss at these Stories related in the same stile and after the same manner were they Penn'd by any Writer of these Times when as now through Veneration to so great an Author ye Blush at them Recollect thy self O Sectary and thou wilt see that the Bones of the Martyrs were taken up not through any Idolatrous Custom but by the Command of Almighty GOD. Thou wilt see that 't is not only a lawful but also a Pious Action to apply Clothes and Handkerchiefs to their Bodies and from such an Application both to