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A53949	The apostate Protestant a letter to a friend, occasioned by the late reprinting of a Jesuites book about succession to the crown of England, pretended to have been written by R. Doleman.	Pelling, Edward, d. 1718.; L'Estrange, Roger, Sir, 1616-1704.	1682 (1682)	Wing P1075; ESTC R21638	46,592	63

in Parliament a Supreme Uncontroulable Power is lodged Ibid. That a Nation in excluding a Successor is to be excused for executing Justice Summarily and without the Tedious Formalities of Law when the necessity of things requires haste pag. 19. And that the People are bound in Conscience to obey the Parliaments Laws and must not pretend to enquire whether they were made upon just grounds ibid. Now such simple men as you and I have ever thought and do think still that all Humane Power is subordinate to Gods under the Correction of it and Controulable by it That Law-givers ought to take their measures according to the rules of natural Justice and Equity That m●ns Laws do not oblige if they be contrary to the Laws of God or Nature That Parliaments have not that Power which Bellarmine another Jesuit gives the Pope to make Good Evil and Evil Good That common Honesty ought to Govern the whole world That Necessity cannot be pretended to justifie an Evil Action that no Commonwealth hath a Sovereign Power over the Commands of God and Nature and that divers Statutes and Acts have been judged ipso facto void and without need of Repealing being contrary to Divine or Natural Laws But you see that this Collector is of another Faith telling us That a Commonwealth can do any thing what they please without any Controul But the reason is because he takes Father Parsons for his Great Apostle For he speaking of a Commonwealths Power to Exclude a Successor though contrary to the ordinary course of Law saith That our Common Law must needs have further consideration than of the bare Propinquity of Bloud only for that otherwise it would be a very imperfect Law that hath not provided for accidents so weighty and important as these are for saving and conserving of our Commonwealth Preface to Doleman pag. penult These are the words which the Collector hath in a manner Transcribed and copied out Moreover the Jesuit tells us That the Commonwealth hath Authority to judge of the Lawfulness of the Cause for putting back the Prince That God doth allow for a just and sufficient cause in this behalf the only Will and and Judgment of the Weal Publick it self And seeing that they only are to be Judges of this case we are to presume that what they determine is Just and Lawful for the Time and that they being Lords and Owners of the whole business it is enough for every particular man to subject himself to that which his Common-wealth doth in this behalf and to obey simply without any further inquisition c. pag. 159 160. part 1. Now do but compare this passage in Doleman with that cited above out of the History of Succession and judge whether this Jesuit was not that Collectors Guide 2. Another of the Collectors Principles is this That though Government is of Nature and derived from God because nothing is more Natural in man than the Desire of Society and without Government Society would be intolerable yet it cannot be proved from hence that the Government cannot be moulded into several Forms agreeable to the Interest and dispositions of several Nations and may not be varied from time to time as occasion requires by the mutual consent of the Governours and of those who are Governed pag. 16. This is right Father Parsons all over and so exactly that as I was comparing the Books I was like to have mistaken Doleman for the History of Succession For thus saith the Jesuit Albeit Sociability or Inclination to live together in company man with man be of Nature and consequently also of God that is Author of Nature and though Government in like manner and Jurisdiction of Magistrates which doth follow necessarily upon this living together in company be also of Nature yet the particular Form or manner of this or that Government in this or that Fashion as to have many Governours few or one or that they should have this or that Authority more or less for longer or shorter time or be taken by Succession or Election themselves and their Children or next in Bloud all these things saith the Jesuit agreeably to the Collector are not by Law either Natural or Divine but they are ordained by particular positive Laws of every Country Doleman part 1. cap. 1. pag. 2 3. I have seen many an Harmonia Evangelica but never shall I see a fairer Harmonia Politica than between these two Brethren in iniquity Parsons and the Collector of the History of Succession 3. Especially if we add another Principle of his viz. that it is no matter of what Stock or Lineage a Successor to the Crown is or whether next Heir or not if he doth but pass for one that Promiseth well and is likely to make a good King And to let us know his mind in this he tells us a remarkable Story which I beg of you Sir to observe because it is word for word in Doleman I cannot saith our Collector forbear reciting the Speech which Embassadours sent from the States of France made to Charles of Lorrain when they had solemnly rejected him though he was Brother to Louys d' Outremes and next H●ir to the Crown and had Elected Hugh Capet for their King They told him that every one knew that the Succession to the Crown of France belonged to him and not to Hugh Capet But yet say they the very same Laws which give you this right of Succession do judg you also unworthy of the same for that you have not hitherto indeavoured to frame your manners according to the Prescript of those Laws nor according to the Usages and Customs of your Country but rather have allyed your self with the German Nation our old Enemies and have loved their vile and base manners Wherefore seeing you have forsaken the ancient virtue and sweetness of your Country we have also forsaken and abandoned you and have chosen Hugh Capet for our King and put you back and this without any scruple of Conscience at all esteeming it better and more just to live under him enjoying our ancient Laws Customs Priviledges and Liberties than under You the Heir by bloud in oppression strange Customs and Cruelty For as those who are to make a Voyage at Sea do not much consider whether the Pilot be Owner of the Ship but whether he be Skilful and Wary so our care is to have a Prince to govern us gently and happily which is the End for which Princes were appointed and for these ends we judge this man fitter to be our King Hist. of Succession pag. 15. There is a mistake in this Story for Charles of Lorrain was Son to one Louys and Vncle to another However thus our Collector sets it down and quotes Gerard for it when he ought but that he would not betray himself to have quoted his Father Parsons who relates the same Story in the same words and directed him to Gerard. I think it not amiss saith the Jesuit to

our Bishops though I confess we may think it fitting that we should have power in both points as well as in one and as the world goes Kings and Bishops way well expect to fare alike But in good earnest Sir I am grieved at Heart and 't is enough to raise the Indignation of every Honest man to find that so many among us do inconsiderately not to say maliciously run altogether upon this Jesuits Principles and that in these times when we are all so afraid of Popery that one would think we should be most especially afraid of Jesuitism Yet if you please to give your self the trouble to peruse those seditious Pamphlets which have been published of late you will find what I note to be true that generally they borrow large portions out of this most wicked Libel written by a most wicked Wretch on purpose to ruine the interest of the Protestant Cause Nay that the Authors of them have so exactly followed the Scope the Tenents the Arguments the Examples and the very Phrase many times that we may well believe they had old Doleman open before them as they were writing I shall give you Proof and Instances of this by and by In the mean while we may conclude that these men were not so straightned as to be Constrained to do this For they might have been abundantly furnished with Anti-Monarchical and Republican Principles out of other Authors such as Ficklerus Stephanus Junius Brutus Knox 〈◊〉 and some more of that Age who were main good Friends to the Jesuits in this point But because Fa. Parsons hath made great Improvements of those Principles which others had vended a little before and because his great design was to bar all Succession to the Crown of England by Natural Descent and Inheritance and to that end hath used all the most plausible Arguments and because all this is serviceable to the Designs of some Now who consider more what is Expedient than what is Just therefore they do willingly chuse to make this Author though a Jesuit their Guide and do take all their Measures from this Libel rather than others How they will answer this to God to their own Consciences and to the sober World I do not know but that the Truth of what I say may be manifest I shall instance in some of the Principal Pamphlets which have been written of late And I shall begin with that which hath made the greatest Noise viz. the History of Succession which the Author saith is Collected out of the Records and the most Authentick Historians But had he said Collected out of Doleman he had spoken a more Ingenuous Truth than perhaps he hath told us in the whole Book besides For though he hath adorned his Margin with div●rs Quotations out of Records and Authors which I suppose he consulted to conceal his Theft or to put a fair Colour upon it at least yet the Matter is taken out of that Authentick Historian Doleman However he came by the Fringe and the Lace 't was his Friend honest Fa Parsons that furnish'd him with the Stuff I do not intend to examine the Candour the Sincerity or the Logick of this Collector because it is a thing besides my Purpose and for the consideration of those things I refer you Sir to that Learned and Solid Answer called The great Point of Succession discussed c. and to that excellent Tract entituled Religion and Loyalty supporting each other For my business is only to shew matter of Fact that this Collector hath filch'd his Pamphlet out of that Jesuit who to cheat the world gave himself the Surname of Doleman In this blessed History we are to consider first the Design Secondly the Principles of the Author And thirdly the Examples he useth to serve his Ends. I● Now the Design is to prove that the Government of England is not a setled Hereditary Monarchy that Succession is not Title enough to make the next Heir King but that the Election of him ought to be before his Coronation that the Succession is wholly under the Controul of Parliament and that they can limit it and subject it to Conditions and alter the Course of it as they please Now this is the very Sum of the First and the sixth Chapter in Doleman Part. 1. For in the first Chapter he tells us That Succession to Government by nearness of Bloud is not by Law of Nature or Divine but only by Humane and Positive Laws of every particular Commonwealth and consequently may up●n just causes be altered by the same pag. 1. And in the sixth Chapter he affirms That though Priority and Propinquity of Bloud in Succession is greatly to be honoured regarded and preferred in all affairs of Dignity and Principality yet are we not so absolutely and peremptorily bound thereunto always but that upon just and urgent occasions that course may be altered and broken pag. 104. He founds Regal Power in Succession and Election both pag. 105. And being to answer that Question What interest a Prince hath by Secession alone to any Crown before he be Crowned or Admitted by the Commonwealth He saith That an Heir Apparent before his Coronation and Admission by the Realm hath the same and no more interest to the Kingdom which the King of Romans or Caesar hath to the German Empire after his Election and before he be Crowned and to use a more familiar Example to to Englishmen as the Mayor of London hath to the Mayoralty after he is chosen and before he be admitted or have taken his Oath For as this man in rigour is not truly Mayor nor hath his Jurisdiction before his Oath and Admission nor the other is properly Emperour before he be Crowned so is not an Heir Apparent truly King though his Predecessor be dead until he be Crowned and admitted by the Commonwealth pag. 106. In fine He is Positive that Heirs Apparent are not true Kings until their Coronation how just soever their Title of Succession otherwise be and so that no Allegiance is due unto them before they be Crowned pag. 108. To make these things out is the Grand Design of Father Parsons and his Plagiary the Author of this History of Succession And though you well know that all this is contrary to the Laws of our Realm which recognize all Succession to this Crown to be by Inheritance and allow of no Interregnum but say that the King never dieth because the next Heir is actually King that very minute after the breath of his Predecessor is gone yet you see how closely this Collector hath followed the steps of Doleman all our Laws to the contrary notwithstanding II. As touching this Collectors Principles 1. He is clearly of opinion That the Commonwealth hath Power to change the direct order of Succession for otherwise the Government would want power to defend it self by making such alterations as the variety of Accidents in several Ages may make absolutely necessary p. 15. That