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A91487	Severall speeches delivered at a conference concerning the power of Parliament, to proeeed [sic] against their King for misgovernment. In which is stated: I. That government by blood is not by law of nature, or divine, but only by humane and positive laws of every particular common-wealth, and may upon just causes be altered. II. The particular forme of monarchies and kingdomes, and the different laws whereby they are to be obtained, holden and governed ... III. The great reverence and respect due to kings, ... IV. The lawfulnesse of proceeding against princes: ... V. The coronation of princes, ... VI. What is due to onely succession by birth, and what interest or right an heire apparent hath to the crown, ... VII. How the next in succession by propinquity of blood, have often times been put back by the common-wealth, ... VIII. Divers other examples out of the states of France and England, for proofe that the next in blood are sometimes put back from succession, ... IX. What are the principall points which a common-wealth ought to respect in admitting or excluding their king, wherein is handled largely also of the diversity of religions, and other such causes.	Parsons, Robert, 1546-1610, attributed name.	1648 (1648)	Wing P573; Thomason E521_1; ESTC R203152	104,974	80

SEVERALL SPEECHES Delivered At a Conference concerning the Power of Parliament to proceed against their KING for MISGOVERNMENT In which is Stated I. That Government by blood is not by Law of Nature or Divine but only by humane and positive Laws of every particular Common-wealth and may upon just causes be altered II. The particular forme of Monarchies and Kingdomes and the different Laws whereby they are to be obtained holden and governed in divers Countries according as each Common-wealth hath chosen and established III. The great reverence and respect due to Kings and yet how divers of them have been lawfully chastised by their Parliaments and Common-wealths for their misgovernment and of the good and prosperous successe that God commonly hath given to the same IV. The lawfulnesse of proceeding against Princes what interest Princes have in their Subjects goods or lives how Oathes do binde or may be broken by Subjects towards their Princes and finally the difference between a good King and a Tyrant V. The Coronation of Princes and manner of their admitting to their authority the Other which they doe make in the same unto the Common-wealth for their good Government VI. What is due to onely Succession by birth and what interest or right an Heire apparent hath to the Crown before he is Crowned or admitted by the Common-wealth and how justly he may be put back if he have not the parts requisite VII How the next in succession by propinquity of blood have often times been put back by the Common-wealth and others further off admitted in their places even in those Kingdoms where succession prevaileth with many examples of the Kingdomes of Israel Spaine VIII Divers other examples out of the States of France and England for proofe that the next in blood are sometimes put back from succession and how God hath approved the same with good successe IX What are the principall points which a Common-wealth ought to respect in admitting or excluding their King wherein is handled largely also of the diversity of Religions and other such causes LONDON Printed by Robert Ibbitson dwelling in Smith field neere the Queens-head-Tavern MDCXLVIII The first Speech THe Examples of a mad or furious Heir apparent or of one that were by Education a Turke or Moor in Religion or by Nature deprived of his Wit or Senses do plainly prove that propinquity of Birth or Bloud alone without other circumstances is not sufficient to be preferred to a Crown for that no Reason or Law Religion or Wisedom in the World can admit such Persons to the Government of the Common-wealth by whom no good but destruction may be expected to the same seeing that Government was ordeined for the benefit of the Weal-publique and not otherwise And though some in these our Dayes have affirmed the contrary and published the same in writing for the defence flattery or advancement of the Prince they favour affirming that even a fool mad or furious man or otherwise so wicked as he would endeavour to destroy the Common-wealth were to be admitted to the Seat Royal without further consideration if he be next in Bloud yet this is manifestly agaist all reason and conscience and against the very first end and purpose of institution of Common-wealths and Magistrates Hereof it doth ensue that some other Conditions also must needs be requisite for coming to Government by Succession besides the onely propinquity or priority in Bloud and that the Conditions must be assigned and limited out by some higher Authority than is that of the Prince himselfe who is bound and limited thereby and yet it seemeth evident they are not prescribed by any Law of Nature or Divine for that then they should be both immutable and the selfe-same in all Countries as God and Nature are one and the same to all without change where notwithstanding we see that these Conditions and Circumstances of succeeding by Birth are divers or different in different Countries as also they are subject to changes according to the diversity of Kingdomes Realmes and People whereby we are forced to conclude that every particular Countrey and Common-wealth hath prescribed these Conditions to it selfe and hath Authority to do the same For better proof whereof it is first of all to be supposed that albeit sociability or inclination to live together in company Man with Man whereof ensueth both City and Common-wealth as Aristotle gathereth in his first Book of Politiques be of Nature and consequently also of God that is Authour of Nature though Government in like manner and jurisdiction of Magistrates which do follow necessarily upon this living together in company be also of Nature yet the particular Forme or manner of this or that Government in this or that Fashion as to have many Governours few or one and those either Kings Dukes Earles or the like or that they should have this or that Authority more or lesse for longer or shorter time or be taken by Succession or Election themselves and their Children or next in Bloud all these things I say are not by Law either Natural or Divine for then as hath been said they should be all one in all Countries and Nations seeing God and Nature is one to all but they are ordained by particular positive Lawes of every Countrey But now that sociability in Mankinde or inclination to live in company is by Nature and consequently ordained by God for the common benefit of all is an easie thing to prove seeing that all ground of Realmes and Common-wealths dependeth of this point as of their first Principle for that a Common-wealth is nothing else but the good Government of a Multitude gathered together to live in one and therefore all old Philosophers Law-makers and Wise men that have treated of Government or Common-wealths as Plat● in his ten most excellent Bookes which he wrote of this matter intituling them of the Common-wealth Plato de repub Cicero de repub Arist. Polit. And Marcus Cicero that famous Councellour in other six Books that he writ of the same matter under the same Title And Aristotle that perhaps excelleth them both in eight Bookes which is called his Politiques All these I say do make their entrance to treat of their Common-wealth affaires from this first Principle to wit That man by Nature is sociable and inclined to live in company whereof do proceed first all private Houses then Villages then Townes then Cities then Kingdomes and Common-wealths This ground and Principle then do they prove by divers evident reasons as first for that in all Nations never so wilde and barbarous we see by experience that by one way or other they endeavour to live together either in Cities Townes Villages Caves Woods Tents or other like manner according to the Custome of each countrey Pompon Mela. lib. 3. cap. 3 4. Tacit. lib. 8. which universal instinct could never be in all but by impression of Nature it selfe Secondly they prove the same by that the use of speech is

truly nor the example of one Princes punishment maketh another to beware for the next successour after this noble Edward which was King Richard the second though he were not his son but his sons son to wit son and heire to the excellent and renowned black Prince of Wales this Richard I say forgetting the miserable end of his great Grandfather for evill government as also the felicity and vertue of his Father and Grandfather for the contrary suffered himselfe to be abused and misled by evill councellours to the great hurt and disquietnesse of the Realme For which cause after he had reigned 22. yeares he was deposed by act of Parliament holden in London the yeare of our Lord 1399. and condemned to perpetuall prison in the Castle of Pomfret Polyd. l. 20. hist Aug. 1399. where he was soon after put to death also and used as the other before had been and in this mans place by free election was chosen for King the noble Knight Henry Duke of Lancaster who proved afterwards a notable King and was father to King Henry the fifth sirnamed commonly the Alexander of England for that as Alexander the great conquered the most part of Asia in the space of 9. or 10. yeares so did this Henry conquer France in lesse then the like time I might reckon also this number of Princes deposed for defect in government though otherwise he were no evill man in life this King Henry the fourths nephew I mean King Henry the sixt who after almost forty yeares reigne was deposed imprisoned and put to death Polyd. l. 23. ●istor Anglie together with his sonne the Prince of Wales by Edward the fourth of the house of Yorke and the same was confirmed by the Commons and especially by the people 〈◊〉 London and afterwards also by publicke Act of Parliament in respect not only of the title which King Edward pretended but also and especially for that King Henry did suffer himselfe to bee overruled by the Queen his wife and had broke the articles of agreement made by the Parliament between him and the Duke of Yorke and solemnly sworne on both sides the 8. of Octob. in the yeare 1459. In punishment whereof and of his other negligent and evill government though for his owne particular life he was a good man sentence was given against him partly by force and partly by law and King Edward the fourth was put in his place who was no evill King and all English men well know but one of the renownedst for martiall acts and justice that hath worne the English Crowne But after this man againe there fell another accident much more notorious which was that Richard Duke of Glocester this King Edwards yonger brother did put to death his two nephews this mans children to wit King Edward the fifth and his little brother and made himselfe King and albeit he sinned grievously by taking upon him the. Crown in this wicked manner yet when his nephews were once dead he might in reason seem to be lawfull King both in respect that he was the next male in blood after his said brother as also for that by divers acts of Parliament both before and after the death of those infants his title was authorised and made good and yet no man wil say I think but that he was lawfully also deposed again afterward by the Commonwealth An. 1487. which called out of France Henry Earle of Richmond to chastise him and to put him downe and so he did and tooke from him both life and Kingdome in the field and was King himselfe after him by the name of King Henry the seventh and no man I suppose will say but that he was lawfully King also which yet cannot be except the other might lawfully be deposed I would have you consider in all these mutations what men commonly have succeeded in the places of such as have been deposed as namely in England in the place of those five Kings before named that were deprived to wit John Edward the second Richard the second Henry the sixt and Richard the third there have succeeded the three Henries to wit the third fourth and seventh and two Edwards the third and fourth all most rare and valiant Princes who have done infinit important acts in their Commonwealths and among other have raised many houses to Nobility put downe others changed states both abroad and at home distributed Ecclesiasticall dignities altered the course of discent in the blood Royall and the like all which was unjust is void at this day if the changes and deprivations of the former Princes could not be made and consequently none of these that doe pretend the Crowne of England at this day can have any title at all for that from those men they descend who were put up in place of the deprived And this may be sufficient for proofe of these two principall points that lawfull Princes have oftentimes by their Commonwealths been lawfully deposed for misgovernment and that God hath allowed and assisted the same with good successe unto the Weal-publique and if this be so or might be so in Kings lawfully set in possession then much more hath the said Commonwealth power and authority to alter the succession of such as doe but yet pretend to that dignity if there be due reason and causes for the same The fourth Speech TRuly Sir I cannot deny but the examples are many that this Gentleman hath alleaged and they seeme to prove sufficiently that which you affirmed at the beginning to wit that the Princes by you named were deprived and put downe by their Common-wealths for their evill government And good successors commonly raised up in their places and that the Common-wealth had authority also to doe it I doe not greatly doubt at leastwise they did it de facto and now to call these facts in question were to embroyle and turne up-side-down all the States of Christendome as you have well signified but yet for that you have added this word lawfully so many times in the course of your narration I would you tooke the paines to tell us also by what Law they did the same seeing that Belloy whom you have named before and some other of his opinion doe affirme Belloy apolog catholic part 2. paragraf 9. apol pro rege cap. 9. That albeit by nature the Common-wealth have authority over the Prince to chuse and appoint him at the beginning as you have well proved out of Aristotle and other wayes yet having once made him and given up all their authority unto him he is now no more subject to their correction or restraint but remaineth absolute of himselfe without respect to any but onely to God alone which they prove by the example of every particular man that hath authority to make his Master or Prince of his inferiour but not afterwards to put him downe againe or to deprive him of the authority which he gave him though he should not beare himselfe well and