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A93719 Rules of civil goverment [sic], drawn from the best examples of forreign nations, and Common-wealths-briefely discovering the excellency and benefit of good governors, and the dangerous consequence of corrupt self-seekers. In a short dialogue between a country man and a scholer. / Written by Robert Sprye, lawyer. Humbly presented to his Excellency the Lord Generall as a word in season.; Rules of civil government Spry, Robert. 1653 (1653) Wing S5089; Thomason E1484_3; ESTC R208760 19,290 63

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to punish other Offences as to ab●te the immoderate power of the Noblemen C. What are the pretexts of a popular State and what meanes doe they use to maintaine the same S. The supposition of a popular State pretendeth two things which in themselves are plaufible 1 Equality 2 Liberty The means of maintaining their supposition have beene these seaven 1 By choosing all Magistrates by the voices of all and out of all Ne quis sit exclusus á Republica 2 By giving no power to any Magistrate to put any to death though condemned by Law if they appealed to the people Vt libera si● provocatio ad Populum absoluta Potestas in Populo 3 By causing all to know the use of Armes that they neither should feare Forraigne forces or powers nor one pa●tie to stand in awe of another 4 By suffering no man to continue long in Office and to be called to an account his Office being ended and expired 5 By diminishing the power of them which were growne to great by what meanes soever As the Athenians used their Ostracismus The Syrac●sans their Petalismus the parties name written in Olive leaves upon which he was to be exiled 6 The more simple otherwise If hee can but understand their Lawes and customes to see execution on Offendors the fitter and saf●r for a popular Estate In some Democraties the chiefe Officer hath beene tied to such kindes as are mechanicall 7 By compelling all to be at Assemblies especially the meaner sort who in some popularities have been invited by rewards C. Sir I have exercised your pa●ience long and I feare I am to bold with you but your freenesse of discourse hitherto encourageth me to demand or request some other few resolutions before your departure S. The time I have spent with you I account it not l●st for I have made a two fold gaine thereof by renewing our old acquaintance and thereby our loves 2 By bringing to my remembrance what I have read out of divers auntient Authors concerning STATE-POLICIE I shall willingly resolve you if your d●mandes come within the reach of my weake Learning I pray proceed to your Question C. How are Democraticall States alterd S. Democraties are changed into Oligarchyes by the banding of them in great favour with the people if they can agr●e betweene themselves if they disagree the one ass●yling the other the conqueror rayse a Monarchy The Popular State of Rome by the confederacy of Crassus Pompy and Caesar proved in effect Oligarchicall All things being acted as they would have them Af●ir Crassus death Pompy and Caesar falling at variance one assayling the other the Conqueror drew the whole State to himselfe After Caesars death it became againe Popular The new Triumverate made it Oligarchicall their dissentien Monarchicall againe C. What things are those without which neither of those ●orementioned States can be supported or continue without ruine S. Aristotle sayeth Sex sunt quae dicuntur necessaria Alimenta Artificia Arma Pecunia Sacra Judicia Moreover else where he saieth Quinque sunt arcana quae in potestate superioris Magistratus reservare solent Resp Therefore it behoveth the Supreame power of any State to have a speciall care that those six things be duly had in regard and according to the respective qualities and number of their Subiects ALIMENTA Nourishment which is to be considered 1 By what kind the people desire to be maintained By Tillage By Pasture 2 Where they have that which they fancie or most desire from home or from other Countries 3 With what ease or difficulty the Victualia desired may be gotten ●t what rates and what quantity is requisite ARTIFICIA Crafts to keep the people from Idlenesse 1 Where regard is to be had of what matter they worke upon whether Mettalls Stones or Wooll and where those things are to be had for their use 2 To what valew their workes can raise the matter where on they work 3 Regard is to be had whether their kinde of worke maintaine health of body and strength of minde ARMA Armes whether made in their owne Country 1 Of what matter of what fashion of what use and of what advantage 2 Whether brought from Forraigners with what ease and at what rates or price 3 Consideration is to be had of what advantage to the Nation either in the excellency of the use or in the private or proper usage to men alone As the Roman Pilum and the bow in times past Anglis 4 Whether Armes be permitted to all so in Democraticall states or to some few as in Oligarchyes 1 Pecuniae Mony of what matter it is made and the valew of the same 2 VVhether the Mines thereof be in their owne Country 3 VVhat things abound by which it may be fetched from others 4 VVho hath the power of valewing 5 VVhat necessity of levying for publick uses 6 VVhat necessity of disbursing for the same uses SACRA 1 The publick manner of serving God 2 The Orders and Degrees by which the Priests and Levites are disting●ished from the Laytie and one of them from another 3 The maintenance Liberty and priviledges that they have to maintaine them of that place 4 The power and honour that the Cheife of them have either over them of the Clergy or over others 5 The meanes to hold the reverence of the people 6 The Scriptures of life to which they are bound by Oath Vow or Custom● 7 Their apparrell in matter Colour or fashion how it is different from the Layety The Romans kept the whole ordering of matters of Religion especially amongst their greatest Personages The Lords of the Senate were the Pontifices and Flamines The Salii who carried their Ancilia in a strange manner about the City were of the young Gentlemen and most of their fraternities were of men of the best stocks C. VVhat were these Salii S. They were the Priests os Mars the gods of Battl● who bearing Ancilia or Targets and Sheilds dancing about the City in token of Triumph C. VVhat is to be observed concerning Magistrates S. Foure things 1 VVho hath the power of choosing them 2 VVho are capable who are not 3 VVhat causes are in their power what not 4 By what their powers are ●nlarged or restrained So long as the power of the Senate of ROME availd though the people did chuse yet they did chuse their great Officers onely ex Patritiis out of those that came from the loynes of Senators who though they determined all matters yet there was still liberty to appeale to the p●ople Afterwards all were made capable and any of the Tribunes might hinder any act of the Consul or decree of the Senate JVDJCJA 1 Either criminall as in cases of life and death 2 Or Civill as of personall or reall actions which concerne matters of Trespasse and Title The manner of proceeding whether the Tryalls be 1 De facto only 2 De Iure only 3 De Iure de facto together C. There