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A79719 The declaration of the Commission of the General Assembly, to this whole Kirk and kingdom of Scotland of the fifth of May: concerning the present publike proceedings towards an engagement in warre, so farre as religion is therein concerned. Together with their desires and petitions to the Honourable Court of Parliament, the Parliaments answers. Their humble returnes and representations, and other papers that may give full and cleare information in the matter. Church of Scotland. General Assembly. Commission.; England and Wales. Parliament. 1648 (1648) Wing C4216A; Thomason E461_2; ESTC R29223 54,894 68

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20._o the_o reason_n of_o our_o not_o proceed_v in_o that_o conference_n and_o that_o the_o cause_n be_v not_o in_o we_o we_o do_v now_o as_o the_o servant_n of_o jesus_n christ_n for_o our_o own_o exoneration_n for_o prevent_v of_o mistake_n and_o for_o a_o clear_a understanding_n between_o your_o lordship_n and_o we_o represent_v these_o our_o humble_a desire_n which_o we_o recommend_v to_o your_o lordship_n serious_a thought_n i._o that_o the_o ground_n and_o cause_n of_o undertake_v a_o war_n may_v be_v clear_v to_o be_v so_o just_a as_o that_o all_o who_o be_v well_o affect_v may_v be_v satisfy_v in_o the_o lawfulness_n and_o necessity_n of_o the_o engagement_n and_o that_o nothing_o be_v act_v in_o reference_n to_o a_o war_n before_o the_o lawfulness_n of_o the_o war_n and_o state_n of_o the_o question_n be_v agree_v upon_o ii_o that_o as_o the_o breach_n of_o the_o covenant_n by_o the_o prevalent_a party_n of_o sectary_n be_v evident_a so_o we_o desire_v and_o hope_n that_o 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