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A19321 Another letter of Mr. A.C. to his dis-Iesuited kinseman, concerning the appeale, state, Iesuites Also a third letter of his, apologeticall for himselfe against the calumnies contained against him in a certaine Iesuiticall libell, intituled, A manifestation of folly and bad spirit, &c. Copley, Anthony, 1567-1607? 1602 (1602) STC 5736; ESTC S120368 72,830 84

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ANOTHER LETTER OF Mr. A. C. TO HIS DIS-IESVITED KINSEMAN CONCERNING THE APPEALE STATE IESVITES Also a third Letter of his Apologeticall for himselfe against the calumnies contained against him in a certaine Iesuiticall libell intituled A manifestation of folly and bad spirit c. Recta Securus Domine libera animam meam à labijs iniquis à lingua dolosa Psal. 119. Newly imprinted 1602. ANOTHER LETTER of Mr A. C. to his dis-Iesuited kinsman concerning the Appeale State Iesuits GOod Cosin To you who haue done me the honor and your selfe the right as to rest satisfied by my last Letter to you in answer of one of yours concerning the present schisme in our Church here in England betweene the Iesuites and our fathers the secular Clergie of the Seminaries I shall not need either with eloquence or by protestation to perswade you how glad I am hereof hoping you will take my word for it neither yet how vnfainedly I rest yours farther if farther may be then for euer Now whereas you write that our Clergies thus opposing and writing one against the other doth greatly scandalize both Catholicke and Protestant it is verie true but what remedie Vae to the Treatie of Schisme and more then thrice vae to thè defence thereof so generall and by authoritie such as it is both which haue bene the ground of all this and not to innocents who can do no lesse nor better then they haue done For will ye for example allow a fellon and him his Aduocate with prodigall tongue in his behalfe and not a true man as much What iustice or what charitie were this yea or what ciuill pollicie in a common wealth Greatly I confesse it were to be wisht that in a variance so Ecclesiasticall as this and in a Church so vnder execution as ours is more temperance and modestie were obserued of all hands aswell for our owne honors who are Catholikes as for the edification of our common aduersaries who are apt to be scandalized euen in our best cariages Howbeit on the other side it is no maruell considering the irascible nature of man if in a matter so taken to the heart on either partie and that vpon opinion of Gods glorie as this of the present schisme is all mens pens be not alike sober I meane of the Iesuite partie whose writings are fowle and full both of intemperance and vntruth namely and notably their late Apologie as may appeare to the ciuill reader although vnanswered by the Appellants howbeit as I heare their answer is forth-comming A shame that inke and paper and the Presse should be so abused to the propagation rather then extenuation of a scandale though so much the lesse shame by how much the Author seemes ashamed to set so much as two letters of his name vnto it And yet forsooth must it passe current as no libell Cum priuilegio Prothonotarij Apostolici and that in notable disobedience to the supposed Briefe of his Holinesse promulged of late by the said Archpriest in checke and heauy censure of all writings and writers vpon this argument I say supposed inasmuch as were there any such true Briefe indeed is it likely saith euery one that Maister Archpriest himselfe and his to whome the promulgation and consequently the obseruance there of primerly appertaineth would be the first that would violate it or that Maister Archpriest would or durst deferre the promulgation thereof a whole quarter of a yeare as he did namely vntill such time as the foresaid Apollogie were come out by and for his partie considering that the disobedience is as great to conceale the Popes Bull from due and mature promulgation as to disobey it being once promulged specially such the Archpriests concealing it being vpon a cause and to an effect so meerely in repugnance to the tenure and purport thereof wherein he hath shewed notable disobedience and impietie to the Briefe and consequently to Christs Vicar and holy Church aswell aforehand as after Againe were there anie such Briefe is it likely that the Archpriest would commit so grosse a fault against it as to promulge it in so many different and repugnant copies as be to be showne Or that not any of so many comming dayly from Rome can report thereof from thence Finally admitting the Bull to be truly his Holinesses and truly promulged without all manner of fault by the Archprist and Iesuites it therfore followes not but it may be and is surreptiuely procured by them at his Holinesses hands aswell as the Archpriests Constitutiue was by the spite and sleight of father Cowbucke and his fellow fathers who held it no sacriledge to mis-informe the sacred sea by their 〈◊〉 instrument M. Standish and consequently to scandalize it In consideration whereof aswell for the honor of that mother sea as for our owne indempnities who in this behalfe and for other important points of our Church and countrey do stand in present opposition to the Archpriest and Iesuites it were meete and necessary haply you would thinke that aswell we of the Laitie as our Fathers of the secular clergie should for want of other competent redresse appeale to his Holinesse from the Archpriest concerning the said Bull be it right or surrepted whereby to be quit in the meane time of the censures therein contained This cosin I graunt you might seeme a right Catholike course and honorable as ye say for the Sea Apostolike seing that by it what error the Popes Holinesse may herein vnwittingly and by wrong information haue committed he may right aswell to the informers rebuke as to the Appellants reliefe But on the other side when the penal Statute of Praemunire here at home against such appeales to Rome is considered the Archpriest and Iesuites themselues I am sure are not of so inhumane a nature but that they would be loath to see vs take that course the same being much more in our preiudice one way then it can profit vs the other against them Neuerthelesse because we will not be beholding to their Fatherhoods so fained compassion and curtesie as proceeding rather out of their owne selfe-loue and feare to be so called in question at Rome touching the Bull which we are sure they are neuer able to make good as we could willingly aduēture vpon that course against them I meane we of the Laitie whom the same with the censures concernes alike with our Clergie and also would for any feare we haue of the Praemunire yea or of death in a case that may be to Gods glorie the Churches peace as this such our Appeale might seeme to be yet because it is seldome seene that the Laitie of any Catholike Realme at leastwise of this Realme that euer I read did appeale to the Sea Apostolicke in any cause by meanes whereof this example of ours might seeme preposterous and preiudiciall to the Lay Catholikes hereafter aswell as be pernitious to our selues in the meane time for the reason of the Statute alleaged and
vnion to the Catholicke Church which was in Anno 1583. by the hand of old and good M. Woodward in Rone in Normandie I neuer either in schismaticall or hereticall word deed or assent scandalized the same but haue euer held and reputed such my Religion as the apple of my eye and as a brooch pledge piller and seale of saluation to my soule Yea rather then I will euer vpon temptation of the flesh the world or the diuell disparage my selfe herein to the Catholike Church I trust in God to endure a thousand deaths In testimony of which my Catholike cōscience I here by these presents auow the same vnto you good cosin and to as many as may happen to reade this letter praying you and them to beare me record hereof at the latter day when all flesh shall arise to iudgement If the actuals of my life haue not bin so conformable to this my professed faith as they ought it hath bene my extreme frailtie I confesse for which God I thanke that he hath left medicinable Sacraments in the Church whereby I may rise and renew me from time to time yet sure I am that to dislike of so schismaticall and trecherous preuaricators as Iesuites are at this day both to our Church and countrey and to oppose against them as such with al my abilitie with and for the sacred Seminaries my true spirituall fathers is no wayes an act of ill life so much as veniall much lesse Apostacie from God and all pietie but the cleane contrarie that is Catholicke and bounden dutie in the highest degree Let therfore this libelling Iesuit looke into his owne conscience and checke these his slanderous imputations to me first there and then to the world-ward and as for his satisfaction to me he shall find it easie at my hands who do daily pray God to forgiue me my trespasses as I forgiue all trespasses against me Till when let him not vaunt as aboue ye haue read of atimorous conscience to affirme things that he knowes not for certaine especially if tending to the reproch of any and in religious humilitie think himselfe as all men ought the veriest sinner of all others And finally his deadly and diuellish hatred to Iesuits in generall and to father Parsons in especiall to whom notwithstanding he was wont to professe great obligation for his spirituall good as he is not ashamed to conclude thus of him In briefe if he haue bene a Iudas to Gods Church and his country to the disparage of the Seminaries c. That I being so verie Catholicke as you haue heard do hate Iesuits as Iesuites that is as they ought to be good religious men according to their institution and their founders rules confirmed priuiledged so indulgently by holy Church is another falsitie and I repute it as a slander Marie that I hate them as men generally debaucht and digressed from their principles and consequently as most scandalous transgressors this I acknowledge to be verie true and my dutie as I am a Catholike being withall sory euen in my soule and with my hart for the honour of my holy mother the Church that there can be a religious societie in it so scandalous as this aswell to all her children and friends as to her foes but specially in a Church so much vnder execution as this our English is Yea so farre forth I am sorie herefore as that to redeeme the same I take God to witnes I would willingly endure a manie Anathemaes both temporall and corporall in this world Gods grace and loue reserued And as for father Cowbucke I denie and maligne him not the credit of his booke called the Resolution but do agnize his paines therein taken whether as a collector or but as a translator to be meritorious and fruitefull and in particular my selfe to haue bene more then somewhat profited thereby in spirite in the time of my catecumenage and so also haue manie bene by Buchanans seuen Psalmes who notwithstanding became himselfe an Apostata in the end Other either spirituall or temporall debt to him or his societie I acknowledge none but the cleane contrarie that is disgusts and iniuries both to my selfe as A. C. and also as I am a member of the Catholicke Church and my countrey either of which that Societie but especially this man haue notoriously scandalized and preiudiced In which respect I might iustly distast and impeach them in my former letter to you as I did in maner of an Appollogie for the Seminaries to whom in all duties both to our Church and countrey we are chiefly indebted And if haply they haue erred in anie thing to the hurt of either of them it hath bene in bringing in of Iesuits and giuing them here the countenance they haue to the discountenancing of themselues and generally of the Catholicke cause through their ingratitude singularity and auarice Being which maner of men and therefore iustly banisht out of France and distasted of the most part of Christendome how is it that their reproch may be a blemish to any or rather not their praise a reproch Truly Cosin if they hold on as they haue begun and that withall the world by their meanes grow not worse then it is alreadie I do not doubt but we shall see it so ere long if they be not cassierd the sooner so much is their corruption exorbitant and readie to runne ouer Good God that such a societie of men after so many scandals and foule deserts of theirs in France and elsewhere for Prince-killing sedition c. can be thus of credit in England where also they haue assayed no lesse and daily do before our eyes besides their present schisme in our Church whereas the Seminariesouer and aboue the high honor of their secular and pastorall priesthood and their instiution thus for the shamble in Gods cause and for our soules like vowed good shepheards are truly good men and our good fathers in all aswell moral as spirituall practise gatherers not dispersers with whom to be afflicted by the Iesuits and our common aduersaries highly we ought to hold it a glorie to God and vs and as for my owne part I do reputing this Libellers contumelies against me for their sakes for such being glad that you amongest other my good kinsemen and friends are so open eyed standing vpon your honor to be wise and vertuous as to discerne not onely a Iesuits grosse and goutie faults as for example a lie but also his finer and quintessenced gulleries as daily now you do You may see and be glad to see it how farre these fathers are alreadie chased by ours that like a foxe almost spent in the hunting they haue now no other shift for the life of their schisme then to bepisse their tailes and besprinkle therewith the hounds that are readie to fasten on them in the eyes wherewith if it may be to put them off Such foxe-like pissing-shift is this Manifester his quil-full oflice vz. expresse