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A61626 Sermons preached on several occasions to which a discourse is annexed concerning the true reason of the sufferings of Christ : wherein Crellius his answer to Grotius is considered / by Edward Stillingfleet ...; Sermons. Selections Stillingfleet, Edward, 1635-1699. 1673 (1673) Wing S5666; ESTC R14142 389,972 404

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c_o for_o our_o sin_n nay_o he_o and_o the_o rest_n of_o our_o adversary_n not_o only_o deny_v it_o but_o earnest_o contend_v that_o it_o be_v very_o unjust_a to_o suppose_v it_o and_o repugnant_a to_o the_o rectitude_n of_o god_n nature_n to_o do_v it_o and_o so_o we_o come_v to_o consider_v the_o mighty_a argument_n that_o be_v propound_v insist_v on_o for_o the_o proof_n of_o this_o which_o may_v be_v reduce_v to_o these_o three_o viz._n 1._o that_o there_o can_v be_v no_o punishment_n but_o what_o be_v deserve_v but_o no_o man_n can_v deserve_v that_o another_o shall_v be_v punish_v 2._o that_o punishment_n flow_v from_o revenge_n but_o there_o can_v be_v no_o revenge_n where_o there_o have_v be_v no_o fault_n 3._o that_o
be_v the_o reason_n of_o punishment_n his_o own_o or_o his_o father_n sin_n if_o his_o own_o than_o he_o be_v punish_v only_o for_o his_o own_o sin_n if_o his_o father_n than_o the_o punishment_n may_v be_v just_a which_o be_v inflict_v without_o consideration_n of_o proper_a desert_n of_o it_o for_o no_o man_n say_v they_o d_o can_v deserve_v to_o be_v punish_v but_o for_o his_o own_o sin_n but_o it_o be_v say_v that_o the_o sin_n of_o father_n be_v only_o a_o impulsive_a cause_n for_o god_n to_o punish_v the_o child_n according_a to_o the_o desert_n of_o their_o own_o sin_n which_o he_o may_v otherwise_o have_v forbear_v to_o punish_v then_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o father_n be_v no_o reason_n why_o the_o child_n shall_v be_v punish_v but_o their_o own_o sin_n be_v the_o reason_n and_o their_o father_n the_o bare_a occasion_n of_o be_v punish_v for_o they_o but_o in_o scripture_n the_o reason_n of_o punishment_n be_v draw_v from_o the_o father_n sin_n and_o not_o from_o the_o child_n 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25._o but_o his_o father_n sin_n nor_o of_o the_o punishment_n of_o the_o people_n in_o c_o david_n time_n but_o his_o own_o sin_n lo_o i_o have_v sin_v and_o i_o have_v do_v wicked_o but_o these_o sheep_n what_o have_v they_o do_v 17._o which_o be_v no_o hyperbolical_a expression_n but_o the_o assign_v the_o proper_a cause_n of_o that_o judgement_n to_o have_v be_v his_o own_o sin_n as_o the_o whole_a chapter_n declare_v nor_o of_o the_o hang_n up_o of_o saul_n son_n by_o the_o gibeonite_n but_o that_o saul_n their_o father_n have_v plot_v 5._o their_o destruction_n and_o in_o a_o instance_n more_o remarkable_a than_o any_o of_o those_o which_o crellius_n answer_v viz._n the_o punishment_n of_o the_o people_n of_o judah_n for_o the_o sin_n of_o manasses_n in_o the_o time_n of_o josias_n when_o a_o through_o reformation_n be_v design_v among_o d_o they_o the_o prince_n be_v very_o good_a and_o all_o the_o place_n of_o idolatry_n destroy_v such_o a_o passover_n keep_v as_o have_v not_o be_v keep_v before_o in_o the_o time_n of_o any_o king_n in_o israel_n yet_o it_o then_o follow_v notwithstanding_o the_o lord_n turn_v not_o from_o the_o fierceness_n of_o his_o great_a wrath_n wherewith_o his_o anger_n be_v kindle_v against_o judah_n 21._o because_o of_o all_o the_o provocation_n wherewith_o manasses_n have_v provoke_v he_o withal_o who_o can_v say_v here_o that_o the_o sin_n of_o manasseh_n be_v only_o the_o occasion_n of_o god_n punish_v the_o people_n in_o 26._o the_o time_n of_o josias_n for_o their_o own_o sin_n when_o their_o sin_n be_v much_o less_o in_o the_o time_n of_o josias_n than_o in_o any_o time_n mention_v e_o before_o after_o their_o lapse_n into_o idolatry_n nay_o it_o be_v express_o say_v that_o josiah_n take_v away_o all_o the_o abomination_n out_o of_o all_o the_o 33._o country_n that_o pertain_v to_o the_o child_n of_o israel_n and_o make_v all_o that_o be_v present_a in_o isreal_n to_o serve_v even_o to_o serve_v the_o lord_n their_o god_n and_o all_o his_o day_n they_o depart_v not_o from_o follow_v a_o the_o lord_n god_n of_o their_o father_n to_o say_v that_o this_o be_v do_v in_o hypocrisy_n and_o bare_a outward_a compliance_n be_v to_o speak_v without_o book_n and_o if_o the_o reason_n of_o so_o severe_a punishment_n have_v be_v their_o hypocrisy_n that_o aught_o to_o have_v be_v mention_v but_o not_o only_o here_o but_o afterward_o it_o be_v say_v that_o the_o reason_n of_o god_n destroy_v judah_n be_v for_o the_o sin_n of_o manasseh_n viz._n 4._o his_o idolatry_n and_o murder_n which_o it_o be_v say_v the_o lord_n will_v not_o pardon_v and_o if_o he_o will_v not_o pardon_v than_o he_o do_v punish_v for_o those_o sin_n not_o bare_o as_o the_o occasion_n but_o as_o the_o meritorious_a cause_n of_o that_o punishment_n what_o shall_v we_o say_v then_o do_v b_o the_o people_n in_o iosiah_n time_n deserve_v to_o be_v punish_v for_o the_o sin_n of_o manasseh_n grandfather_n to_o josiah_n or_o be_v god_n so_o high_o 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