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A29582 Vannus divinus or, A fanne to separate the chaff from the wheat and distinguish pure, and true, from impure and false religions very usefull to inform the ignorant, settle the wavering, reduce the straying, and confirm the sincerely orthodox professors / by C.B., M.A. C. B. 1670 (1670) Wing B48; ESTC R32830 113,190 293

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hate the Church of Rome 3. So that the Reformed have had a Church and their Religion before Luther A Refutation of this shift of the Jesuites That because Luther was in Error in Regard of his doctrine of Consubstantiation Therefore his Refutations of their Opinions and Doctrines is not to be considerable 1. THis is a strange shift indeed for is it not a miserable perverseness in the Jesuites and others Popish Doctors and Writers that being not able to maintain their own Heresies against Luther they will think to escape in the Judgement of Men from being condemned because Luther himself in one point of Doctrine erred 2. May no man convince Error but such an one as is free from Error at all Himself 3. The Scriptures are left unto us to be our Rule of Truth by them must all Doctrine be squared and directed they sit in the highest Seat of Judgement to give Sentence in every Cause 4. With Them did Luther cut down the Popish Errors 5. But one Error of Luther cannot serve to excuse infinite Errors in the Popish Church The Reformed of England France Holland c. do not Believe whatsoever the late Writers have said 1. WE are not so addicted in these Reformed Churches as to Believe whatsoever the late Writers have said 2. We are no more partial unto them in this behalf then we are unto the Ancient Fathers 3. Our Religion and Faith hangeth not upon the sayings of Men be they old or young but onely upon the Canonical Scriptures of God 4. And if they be against us so long as Scripture is for us our Cause is good and we will not be ashamed thereof 5. From hence it followeth That therefore most false is it that the Papists say That our Divity resteth upon these late Writers and young Fathers whom the Jesuites and other Popish Doctors do so scornfully compare with the Old Fathers 6. We use not to alledge for proofs authentical of any Doctrine and as the Rule of our Faith Calvin Bucer or others 7. But our Traditive and Use is this Thus saith the Lord Thus say the Prophets Thus say the Apostles Thus the Evangelists Thus it is written in the Scriptures Thus we read in some Book of the Old or of the New Testament Again If Luther or any other Learned Man among the Protestants or of the Reformed in the Churches above mentioned have either Interpreted the Scripture in somthing amiss or have doubted of some one Book of Scripture whereof doubt also hath been made of old in the Church of Christ we are not to defend their Expositions or to approve their Judgement Again The particular Opinions of Luther and Lutherans are not to be objected by the Papists against the Reformation of England France the United Provinces c. 1. FOr these Reformed Churches are not bound to justifie all Luthers sayings and the Lutherans and their private Opinions no more then the Papists will be content to avouch whatsoever hath been spoken or published by any one or other famous man of their Sect. 2. Which thing if they will take upon them to perform then let them profess it or else they offer us the more injury that object still against us a saying which was never either uttered or allowed by us 3. This might suffice men of indifferent Reason § Of Luthers Error concerning the Bodily Presence in the Sacrament LVther retained this Error of his old leaven wherewith in time of Papistry his Judgement was corrupted § Another Answer of the Reformed to the Objection made by the Jesuites against Luther in regard of his Error of Consubstantiation That therefore his Refutation of their Doctrine is not to be considerable THe Reformed again return this answer to that Objection 1. That although Luther therein somthing swarved from the Truth yet that he might bring in other Causes assured thereof out of the Word of God reject the Opinions of such as dissent from the same word 2. Otherwise no Man in Defence of Gods Truth may challenge or bid Defiance to the Adversaries thereof seeing they have no Priviledge or Charter granted to them but that themselves also may be deceived § Again Concerning Luther 1. LVther say the Reformed was an excellent Man and a worthy servant of Christ 2. Whose Ministery especially it pleased God to use in revealing to these Times the Son of Perdition who fitteth in the Temple of God and advanceth himself above God 3. Yet Luther was a Man 4. And therefore no marvel if he were not exempted altogether as from Ignorance so also from Infirmities § Concerning the Contention between Luther and Zuinglius about the Sacrament of the Lords Supper 1. 1. THis Contention and Dissention was a very hard one hotly debated in many Books 2. And the same hath continued since to the great hinderance of the Gospel and offence of many 3. In which contrary Writings and Discourses are found oftentimes harder speeches of either against other then were to be wished 4. Now do come in the Popish Writers like crafty enemies and gathering a heap of such speeches out of sundry of their Books do insert the same in their Books to make their Readers acquainted therewith that seeing such earnest contention among the chiefest Professors of the Gospel they may be further withdrawn in alienation of mind from the love and liking thereof 2. Examination of that matter 1. THose speeches of either against other which are harder oftentimes then were to be wished are yet such as the godly Servants of the Lord in contention about the Truth somtimes are moved to utter against their Brethren 1. S. Paul openly and sharply reprehended S. Peter to his face whereat wicked Porphyrie catched a like occasion to rail at Christian Religion long since as our Adversaries do at these dayes 2. What a violent and troublesome contention was there between Theophilus of Alexandria and good Chrysostome of Constantinople 3. Who knoweth not how sharply Cyrillus a learned and wise Bishop of Alexandria hath written against Theodoretus a good and Catholick Bishop in a Controversie touching the Catholique Faith both Bishops both Catholiques both Learned both Godly both Excellent Pillars of the Church And yet he that readeth both their Writings would think that both were dangerous Enemies of the Church and of the Faith of Christ and to be avoided of all Christians 2. So in the Books of Luther and of Zuinglius and of those that maintain either part appeareth we grant great sharpness and bitterness of Dissention who all notwithstanding if we set the heat of Dissention aside were as godly as learned as zealous Christians as the World had any The Reformed Religion and Church are not Heretical 1. WHat if the Romish Church condemned Luther Shall we say therefore that Luther is an Heretick 2. The Church of Jerusalem condemned Christ and Him and his they would have denyed to be the true Church but for all their Denial it was not less the true Church 3. The
that hath been set forth of the New Testament 3. And we prove our Assertion because that translation hath such examples of unaccustomed and monstrous novelties of words as the like in no other can be found 4. So as a man may justly call it a new fangled and ridiculous Translation Devised rather to amaze the Readers and make the word of God a laughing stock then to Edisie the Church of Christ 5. For who hath ever heard or read such words and Phrases as they have used and affected in their Translation 6. Whereas They might have retained as well the common and known manner of speaking That their Translation set forth in English might have been understood of English men 7. But they of purpose have so framed the same that the English is in many places as obscure in words as the Latin 8. Which thing is in all Translations a foul fault But in Translating of Holy Scripture Intolerable 9. And what Reason should be hereof but that Men either should contemn or not understand the Scripture which yet they will seem to Translate for the benefit of the Church 2. 10. If the Reader require Examples let him take but the Book and read a little and soon shall he see strange Affectation of Novelties in words and speeches throughout their whole Translation 11. There shall he sind The Transmigration of Babylon Matth. 1. v. 17. The Enemie Man Matt. 13. v. 28. Vnlesse you have Penance Luk. 13. v. 3. Give us to day our supersubstantial Bread Matt. 6. v. 11. Whatsoever thou shalt supererogate Luk. 10. v. 36. Not in Chamberings and Impudicites Rom. 13.13 An Emulator of the Traditions of my Fathers Gal. 1.14.24 I Expugned the Faith They Emulate you not well Gal. 4.17 That you might Emulate Them 1 Pet. 2.5 Be ye also your selves superedified Ephe. 4. v. 10. Once at length you have reflorished to care for me denying the onely Dominator and our Lord Jud. 4. To the Redemption of Acquisition Ephes 1. v. 14. Against the Spirituals of wickedness in the Celestials Ephes 6. v. 12. The Archisynagogue Mark 6. v. 22. Ebrieties Commessations Gal. 5. v. 21. The Dominical day Apoc. 1. v. 10. But they are written to our Correption 1 Cor. 10. v. 11. That in the Name of Jesus every knee bow of the Celestials Terrestrials and Infernals Philip. 2. v. 10. But he Exinanited himself Philip. 2.7 For with such hostes God is promerited Hebr. 13. v. 16. Let the Charity of the Fraternity abide in you Heb. 13. v. 1. O Timothy keep the Depositum 1 Tim. 6.20 That he might repropriate the sins of the people Heb. 2.17 Wrapt it in Sindon and laid it in a Monument Matt. 27.59 All shall be docible of God John 6. v. 45. Vpon probatica a Pond John 5. v. 2. Which of you shall argue me of Sin John 8. v. 46. They hated me gratis John 15. v. 26. Beyond the Torrent Cedron John 18. v. 1. It was the Parasceve of Pasche John 19.14 3. 1. These and such like are the goodly flowers of the Rhemists English Translation 4. 2. Besides the obscurity and ambiguity of Sentences by Reason of leaving out the Verbs and other words in the English Translation which may in Latine more easily be understood 5. Hereby the Reader may judge but better by Reading the Translation it self whether we have not Truely said of it That it is a strange Translation indeed And such an one as hard it were to find the Like 6. 1. But one of the Rhemist Priests doth Answer That we Reformed rather Delight in such Novelty then They seeing they Retain the Ancient words Mass Priests c. And we Reformed refuse them 2. Of these words shall be spoken in our particular handling of Controversies between the Reformed Churches and the Roman 3. And as for certain Names of persons and of places which some of our Interpreters do reduce to the Hebrew Sound They cannot much trouble the Reader And they are rather used in Books then in Speech EXERCITATION Condemnation of the Annotations joined with the Rhemist Translation of the New Testament By the Seminary Priests of Rhemes 1. WHosoever shall consider with himself advisedly the Rhemists Manner of Collection Their Argument Their Application of Scripture And shall Examine a little how their Conclusion followeth upon their Proofs without all Coherence or consequence of Reason must needs greatly mislike their whole Religion that is founded upon so weak so tickle and so ruinous a Foundation 2. For unless it be granted That of every Thing may be concluded any Thing and that the Word of God may be made applicable to all purposes opinions and Doctrines it is impossible that these and such like arguments of Theirs as they have in their Annotations gathered upon the words of Scripture should have in them such strength and Truth as Divinity and Religion requireth These be the Frauds of the Church of Rome Concerning another of their Principles Which is the Ancient Fathers 1. Fraud The Church of Rome doth Discover an abominable Fraud in this That putting the Ancient Fathers to be one of the Principles of their Doctrine of Faith and Religious Worship by an Expurgatory Index they cause to be blotted out of the Books of the Ancient Fathers all that is displeasing unto them Or else they falsifie them and alter their Sense and Meaning 1. THis is true in Regard of the most Ancient Fathers and particularly of the Books of S. Cyprian S. Chrysostome S. Augustine S. Cyril of Alexandria and of others They make them say the contrary to that which they will and take out from them not onely some Clauses but also whole Leafes 2. We know well that to cover this Sacriledge Sixtus of Sienna doth adde That those Writings of the Fathers had been soiled and infected by the Malice and Venome of the Hereticks of our Age But it is a False Cover For if by Hereticks he doth understand those of the Reformed Religion we maintain that which they cause to be blotted out of the Writings of the Fathers was in Them before the Reformation And That it cannot be Justified that any of the Reformed have Corrupted or Altered any Writings of the Fathers 2. Fraud The Church of Rome acknowledgeth That there are many Faults and Errors in the Books of the Ancient Fathers which are not to be Approved And notwithstanding That The Popish Religion is as it were a Body consisting for the most part of Rottennesse and Corruption Namely of Ancient and New Errors 1. 1. THe Popish Writers can as soon prove out of the Scriptures the following Points of their false Doctrine As they can draw a Fountain of water out of a flint 2. These Points of the Popish false Doctrines are 1. Thir Doctrine of Free will 2. Their Doctrine of the Merit of Works 3. Their Doctrine of Purgatory 4. Their Doctrine of the Sacrifice of the Masse for the sins of Quick and Dead 5. Their Transubstantiation 6. Their