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A92058 The Anabaptist preacher unmask'd in a further discovery of his lying vvonder out of Lincolnshire: as also The news from Richard Hobbs, an Anabaptist preacher in Dover, examined. Their juggles, lyes and deceits detected, by T·R· Rudyard, Thomas, d. 1692. 1672 (1672) Wing R2173; ESTC R229389 10,743 19

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him or rather what by them he would bespeak himself and that may appear in what he writes of the Narrative it self pag. 18. 1. Saith he The Narrative is an exact Copy taken out of the Original and was written and signed by the several Persons when these things were done in the Prison And in the same page saith he And when the Narrative was drawn I shew'd it to all the Witnesses that are now alive Now to know by whether of these two Paragraves of his he would be understood were difficult to resolve for he pretends to draw one Narrative long after the other written and subscribed and certainly had his former been fit for the Press he might have printed it without a new Draught with the subscribed Names of the deceased Witnesses and omitting his own to his Letter how like a Dark-Lanthorn Merchant he appears let his Brethren judge 2. But further Query his Reason for publishing his old Tale at this season and not before his first Reason or Answer is That he sent a Copy of to London some time ago What then Was it Printed No But sayes he Lately hearing of that eminent Finger of God about the Leprosie it was desired that it might be Printed with it So he would make a subsequent accident Obstruction to a prior Cause O stupid Folly 3. Our Libeller although he had so far made the Story publick as to send a Copy thereof to London yet would he again insinuate that the reason why it was not published sooner was because he should seem to some as if he had boasted and fear of applause prevailed with him to forbear O horrid hypocrisie O deceit in the abstract shall Persons in their understanding Account of this dayes publication more then the fruit of Envy and Malice and thy reason for its being cover'd so long in Ashes but a meer Lye as thy precedent words fally evidence against thee and thy seeming voluntary debacement palpable hypocrisie I must tell thee thy Lines denote whose Child thou art if for ever shame cover thy name and so I leave thee to return to the Lincolnshire Progedy It s observable That notwithstanding that pretended true Relation from Lincolnshire c. backt with those senceless and contradictory Testimonies was fully answered and returned upon the Forgers thereof yet their Friends and Abetters have insinuated to many their dis-satisfaction for want of a Testimony from the Inhabitants of those Parts to prove the truth or falsity of the Anabaptists words Therefore it s not unseasonablie now to publish also some Certificates from the Inhabitants of Panton in Lincolnshire and from others in those Parts which may clear the Truth to the Enquiror and stop the Mouth of the Gainsayer which take as follow 1. From the Inhabitants of the Town of Panton in Lincolnshire THese are to certifie all Persons that desire to know the Truth That upon the 26th day of the Moneth called June 1672. Richard Anderson of the Town of Panton in Lincolnshire in the presence of above twenty of his Neighbours Doctor Lincolne Parson of the Parish being also present did declare That he never was at a Quakers Meeting but once in his life time and that was at an Assize time at the Castle of Lincoln he did hear them declare about aquarter of an hour And saith That Ralph James was then with him And further saith That he never was a Quaker nor owned by any of that People for he saith they never knew him And further did affirm that he had no Child leprous And that Child the Baptists did say was leprous and since dead he shewed us alive and in health And the said Richard Anderson and his Neighbours did unanimously affirm That the Child had not any Leprosie nor other distemper save only some running sore which was cured by direction from one called Mrs Bonner so far as they understand The said Richard Anderson further affirming That neither himself nor any of his family was troubled with any such painfull distemper as the Baptists say they had These things were not only affirmed by the man himself but also confirmed by the Inhabitors of the Town whose names are hereunto subscribed Doctor Lincoln being also present with the said Inhabitants in the open street in Panton in Lincolnshire Inhabitants William Dorrins Robert Mynto Henry Walch John Emming Robert Drink Richard Walesby Richard Horton Katharine Hall Samuel Mathers George Anderson Jàmes Hall John Chapman Other Witnesses then and there present William Garland Joseph Pope Augustine Smith William Baldwin Nathaniel Ball. 2. From a General Meeting of the People of God called Quakers in the County of Lincoln the 26 day of the 4th Moneth 1672. WHereas a Report is gone out of this County from Ralph James and other Persons which have alwayes had a Prejudice against the Truth and People of God called Quakers by which Report the Nation is abused and those which are over-credilous made to believe a Lye viz. That Richard Anderson of Panton was a Quaker These are therefore to certifie that the said Richard Anderson did never frequent any of our Meetings nor did he ever joyn with us in Worship nor was he ever owned by us nor any of us so that they have not any just ground to call him a Quaker And this Testimony we give forth to preserve the Simple-hearted from being prejudiced against the Truth for believing a Lye From our Quarterly Meeting held at Lincoln where some Friends from each Meeting in that County were present William Garland Abraham Morris William Eberatt Joseph Richardson Augustine Smith John Winklep Samuel Hobman John Richardson Thomas Summers Richard Baxter John Walcott Thomas Lowter John Mills Joseph Pope Thomas Wrestle William Ashby William Hargate James Brown William Boman Robert Browne Thomas Everitt Richard Parnel Joseph Wilson And to take off that too frequent Objection That we seem to condemn all for the Miscarriage of some it may not be unmeet to evince to the Reacer how far John Green of Southwark was concerned in the publishing that late Narrative from Lincolnshire by such measure as may be taken from his own discourse with several Persons about it and far be it from us to wrong any who in any measure manifest their Clearness whose desires are That the Slanderer only may bear the Weight of his own Just Reproof which may appear by the Attestation following Southwark the 15th of the 5th Moneth 1672. John Green's Allegations concerning the Baptists late Narrative 1. HE said That he never did consent to the Publishing that Book 2. That he was no Witness in the Case but that they have abused him 3. He denies the Book and Certificate as being of their own making and with what words they pleased that made it 4. And that he was questioned about it by the Church which he belongs unto who also disowned the Narrative 5. That he intends to speak to his Friends or Church he belongs unto to publish a Testimony against it 6. And
harsh words against Mathew Caffin one of their Preachers As to our first Charge of our Carriage to our Fellow-Prisoners I question not but that many of his own Brethren or such who are called Baptists will give the Lye to the Libeller for certain I am that at Newgate there was no such Occasion given and this Libeller might be ashamed to aver so notorious an Untruth As for any Difference with our Friends at New-Prison I never heard of any and believe it a false Imposition But to his Charge upon The. Lawson upon enquiry I heard about Sixteen Years ago there was Disputes and Points of Faith or Doctrine controverted in Print and otherwise betwixt him and Mathew Cassin But that there was any such Discourse or Writing of late years or about the time of the making the late Act against Conventicles as this creeping Imposer would insinuate I absolutely deny as untrue and had this Detractor been so candid as to have quoted the Book out of which he had pict out so many black Epethites or the time of its Imprinting his own Reader as well as mine might have made Applications of the first according to due demerit and have given Judgment how suitable or unsuitable the latter was to insert in this present Case of Controversie But to argue that it was of later date and of but yesterday and as if he had said but little he concludes This is but a Tythe of what might be said of their Books Words and Carriages even in the height of Persecution c. I Answer That if he can meet with a Reader so void of Reason that can neither distinguish 'twixt Day and Night Light and Darkness Right-hand from the Left he may probably find one so credulous as to believe him but men of the meanest capacity of Understanding may comprehend his frothy Discourse and Rabble But a Tythe of our Books Words Carriages in height of Persecution sayes he Whereas that Dirt thou hast already cast is it not upon thee we are clear of thy false Aspertions What can those otherwise perswaded in Matters of Religion charge us withal in our bearing the Spoiling of our Goods Beating and Imprisoning of our Persons to bear a Faithful Testimony to the Everlasting GOD and his Truth who hitherto has preserved us We appeal to the Faithful Witness in the Consciences of all who have beheld our Conversation By what Words Books Writings or Actions did we ever in time of Persecution or Liberty insence the Magistrate against any as you endeavour to do now the Rod is off your Back Be particular in this Point and you shall have an Answer And forbear thus to belch out your own Shame and to be in time of Quietness as to outward opposition to you-wards and in some measure to us also Incendiaries and Publishers of those old silly Fables and Idle Tales that grieve the Innocent amongst you gratifie the Prophane abroad and are an ill savour in the Nostrils of all moderate Enquirers after Religion who Doubtless do expect at such a Time and Day as this better Arguments for your or against our Perswasions in Faith and Doctrine before they will either embrace yours or reject ours It s worthy Observation That since the late Detection of their Lying Wonder and the Inhabitants of Panton their giving a Certificate of Richard Anderson the Anabaptists late Member his denying his former Confessions to Ralph James and his Confederate Fraternity that the Anabaptists in divers Parts have made no small Tumult and Stir to cover themselves from that Just Rebuke which their Malicious and impertinent piece of Folly and Madness hath consequently brought upon them But the most Remarkable Passage of their Stupidity is That the Anabaptists in Lincolnshire have pretended to Cross Examine and Confess their late Member Richard Anderson upon the stress of whose former Confessions they first grounded their Prodigious Miracle Of Curing a Leprous Family And those his later Confessions have they subscribed and dispersed the several Copies one whereof bareth date June 10. 1670. a second June 15. 1673. a third July 7. 1672. and the last July 21. 1672. came to my hand It s probable the wiser sort of their Brethren here may prevent it from troubling the Press if not it will serve for a plenary Testimony of our Charge against Ralph James and the Forger of that Pamphlet And whether their late Copies be Printed or not I think it meet for the sake of some a little to examine how corresponding it is to their Design and Enterpize To that end observe our Charge against them was in these Particulars First Their falsly Insinuating that Richard Anderson was a Quaker Secondly That his Child was Leprous or he and the rest of his Family afflicted with sore Pains or bodily Distempers Thirdly Then we averred Richard Anderson to be a Member of theirs before and after yea all the time of the pretended acting of their piece of Pageantry Fourthly Their Deceit in not giving the World an Account of the Moneth or Year wherein happened their piece of strange Providence Fifthly Their Malice and Envy in publishing their Narrative at this day after eight or nine years past in silence Sixthly That notwithstanding their bold Averment in the Front of their Libellous Pamphlet not one Eye or Ear Witness has been produced but barely the Weak or Knavish Confession of their own Member The Pains of this summary Repetition is for the better satisfaction of such to whose hands Ralph James and his Fellows have conveyed the late Confessions of that poor Wretch which they stretch as on Tenters to screen their Serpentine Designs and Lying Insinuations of which I neither desire nor need a greater Proof then the Lines they have given forth and subscribed Therefore examine and see whether by all their late Pain they have extorted more from the weak man then was affirmed by us or granted and returned upon the first Relators and Forgers of the Story The Substance of what these Inquisitors Confest the poor man into is First June 10. 1670. That he had Discoursed twenty times with R. James about Religion and that he pronounced James a Leper that he had one Child broke out in Sores All this was granted and proved by us to their hands Secondly The second Confession June 15. 1671. 1. generally then 2. particularly 1. generally say the Confessors He owned the Narrative to be true as to the substance But what is it in Circumstance this observe was to their Mr. Ralph James himself 1. His Confessors say R. A. owned that he confessed the Truth of the Narrative at Rasin Fair September 14 1669. But not a word whether he confessed the Narrative to be true 2. He confessed He heard the Quakers at Lincoln within the Prison an Hour which was Three Quarters more then the poor man gave under his hand at which the Confessors are ready to quarrel 3. His Confessors say That contrary to what he had given under his hand he said He had discourse with the People called Quakers Forty Times about their Principles but whom they were or where they were not a word it s too suspitious the Confessors have here abused the Man for doubless had he acknowledged but half so many times they would have extorted the Persons Names he calls Quakers and that with no small applause 4. His Confessors say He knew not that 's remembred what was in the Paper he set his hand to truly very probable but not a word that the Answer to the Narrative had any wise abused or wronged him in mis-citing the Letter 5. His Confessors say That he owned he pronounced R. James a Leper and after desired his Prayers and that he owned that he had confessed himself well again but that he was really so not one word Thirdly The third Matter is of July 7. 1672. and this is That Edward Parish his wife desired Christopher Foster one of the Confessors to meddle no more with the Matter He might have done well to have interpreted his meaning Fourthly The Confession of July 21. 1672. after the impertinent circumstance of the Journey to Panton and their Hosts acquainting them of the People call'd Quakers having been there the Confessors say That R. A. confessed to the substance of the Narrative but what they call the Substance say nothing and conclude That he confessed that he looked upon the People called Quakers as eminently owned of God as Moses was This is the substance of his Confession and truly had the Devil confessed that he Quakers were God's People it had no more invalidated them then it did Christ when the Devil said Thou art the Son of the Living God Where is now these Imposters Proof that the poor man was a Quaker What not such a Confession notwithstanding their indefatigable pains with him Where is the Leprous Child the Bodily Diseased Family and the Proof of the Child dead as was falsly affirmed in their Narrative Why have we not in the Year of this prodigious Miracle And the Eye and Ear Witnesses of this eminent Finger of God as they termed it and the dicision of the great Controversie as ye Foolishly and Vain-gloriously boasted Remember ye Anabaptists the Wise-mans words viz. Who so boasteth himself of a false Gift is like Clouds and Wind without Rain Had it not been far better and more for the Reputation of R. James of Lincolnshire and Richard Hobbs of Dover to have kept their pieces of Forgery at Home then thus to have been Heralds of their own Ignominy and Reproach I appeal to the Sober-minded of what Perswasion soever What could any Moderate Man have judged of their Labours to bring out such untimely Births if they had been really true and Reflective on the People called Quakers but that it was the Fruit of that old spirit of Envy Hatred and Malice cloak'd over their Mask of Profession How much more then shall they undergo a Just Reproof from the Sober amongst themselves that without Cause have been such zealous Incendiaries to Strife and smitten with the Fist of Wickedness without Cause So to the Wise-mans words I leave them who sayes He that bideth Hatred with Lying Lips and he that uttereth a Slander is a Fool. THE END