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A20358 A discription of what God hath predestinated concerning man in his [brace] creation, transgression, & regeneration : as also an answere to Iohn Robinson, touching baptisme. Murton, John. 1620 (1620) STC 6773; ESTC S768 92,942 190

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nor performe the same For although God required of all Abra seed to Circumcise their males which was the performance of their part of the Couenant Gen. 17. Yet hee required no more of the male of 8. dayes old neither could it promise nor performe any more then the Female And God was asmuch the God of the female Infants of Abra concerning whome nothing was required as hee was the God of the male Infants of whom nothing was required onely their Parents required to Circumcise them in obedience to God and to teach them the circumcision of the heart which by that type they were to learne and that the word Seede or Children is not meant Infants but men of vnderstanding I haue shewed formerly in Pag. 136. Further this Couenant Gen. 17. is made with Abraham and his seed not with euery faithfull man and his seed is euery faithfull man Abrahā what proofe for that It is well if we bee Abrahams seed let vs be content to haue Abra for our Father whose Children if these men were they would teach their children to seeke saluation and all their priuiledges Spirituall with God by Faith only and not by their Fleshly discent as they doe Thus all may see all these their deuices are as the Potters clay their dawbing will not holde their wall and they shall bee destroyed together if they repent not Ereu. It is obiected that circumcision was a seale of Faith to Abraham * Rom. 4. Odeg. It is said Abraham receiued the signe of circumcisiō the seale of the righteousnes of the faith which he had when he was vncircumcised that he should be the Father of the faithfull whether circumcised or vncircumcised This place proueth Vers 11. that Abraham receiued circumcision to seale vp his Fatherhood of the faithfull not that he receiued it to seale vp his Faith in the Messiah which he had * Gen. 12 with 17. 24. yeares before he was circumcised but that it was a seale of his Faith in beleeuing God that hee should be the Father of many Nations * Gen. 12 Rom. 4. ● this was imputed to him for righteousnesse * Vers 2● The intendment of the Apostle in this place being to proue that whereas the Iewes sought righteousnes by beiag Abrahams fleshly childrē * Ioh. 8.39.53 as these obiecters doe by supposing they are the children of the faithfull successiuely through by the flesh or by workes for hee found nothing thereby * Rom. 4.1 but his iustification was by Faith long before he was circumcised God finding him so faithfull continually would make him the Father of all the faithfull and so he receiued circumcision a seale of his Faith that he should be the Father of the faithfull and therefore taught that all that will be Abrahams Children indeed must not regard to be the Children of the Law or flesh but of his Faith for if Abraham himselfe found nothing by the flesh for iustification what can any fleshly Children finde by the same And besides it is a very farre set thing to say Abrahā receiued circumcision a seale of the Faith which he had before therefore all that receiued circumcision it was vnto them a seale of faith consequently Infants may be baptised I haue shewed Abrahā receiued circumcision as none receiued it also that faith was required of none to circumcision but Faith is required to baptisme and therfore these be but mens dreames chaffe in stead of wheat All may see they haue nothing to say for Infants baptisme Christs perfect Testament affoording them no tittle of proofe only they goe about to establish the Couenant of the Gospel which is saluation by Christ to euery sinner through Faith vnto the Children of the Law or flesh contrary to the expresse wordes of the holy Ghost For if they that are of the Lawe be heyres Faith is made voide and the promise is made of none effect but it is by Faith that it might come by Grace vnto all the seed of the faith of Abraham * In Rom. ● 14.16 As also see Gal. 3.22 Rom. 9.8 〈◊〉 are they compelled to runne to the old Testament though it and not serue them and f ō thence to fetch the chiefe corner Stone of their building viz. from circumcision and wholy forsake the newe Testament practise of the Apostles 〈…〉 Moses disciples as if Christ were not 〈…〉 teach them his new Testament but 〈…〉 the new of the olde 〈…〉 of the Law th' 〈…〉 th● 〈◊〉 beheld 〈…〉 and what is the issue of all this truth and experience teacheth a accessi●● of maintayning that harlot and strumpet Rome to be Gods Church and people as that apostate Fran●● 〈◊〉 and others haue done as indeed it cannot be auoyded for if Infants be to be baptised by the rule of circumcision according to their owne ground their estate is such If they deny Romes estate to be such in their outward standing they baptising Infants from generation to generation as they haue done let them shew when and how they became no people of God nor is Church Ereu. It is sufficient that you haue cleared all obiections proued that the baptising of Infants is not warranted by Gods worde besides all which I haue not long since seene a Booke translated out of Duch and Printed in English proouing that this inuention of Infants baptisme was brought in and Decreed by diuers Emperors Popes and Counsels so that I am euery way satisfied in this onely Iohn Robinson Preacher to the English at Leyden hath Printed halfe a sheet of paper who laboureth to proue that none may baptise but Pastors or Elders of a Church for other Officers to baptise I conceiue not that he meaneth and consequently that you and all your companies in England wanting Pastors are vnbaptised To Iohn Robinson Odeg. In this thing we are iustly called vpon and therefore I shall manifest that any Disciple of CHRIST that hath receiued power and commaundment from God to Preach and conuert though no Pastor may also by the same power commaundment baptise which I will first proue by the Scriptures and then answer this obiections perticularly But first I will lay down a maine foundatiō which being sufficiently proued the euident truth shall plainly appear and this it is That the members and Churches of Christ are so made both by Faith and Baptisme and not by the one only which being true it will follow that neither the Church members of Rome are members and Church of Christ because Faith is neither required nor performed thereto nor yet any profession of people that seperate from Rome as from no Church of Christ retayning Romes Baptisme and building new Churches without Baptisme That the members and Churches of Christ are so made by Faith and Baptisme euen by both it is proued in Rom. 11.20 c. where th'Apostle sheweth That the Church at Rome the Gentiles were grafted into Christ the head of the body
th'Apostle * 1 Cor. 6.9.10 Ephes 5.5 bee not deceiued neither Fornicators nor Idolators nor Adulterers nor Wantons nor Buggerers nor Theeues nor Couetous nor Drunkards nor Raylers nor extortioners shall inherite the Kingdome of God From hence it is most plaine that a man that liueth in any one of these sinnes and hateth to be reformed hee shall neuer enter into the Kingdome of God except he repent of that his wickednes Ereu. The Scriptures are so plaine they cannot be denyed onely I would of all the rest haue this sin of Idolatry throughly discouered for many are exceedingly deceiued therein seeing themselues blameles in the other sinnes of which many indeed cannot be taxed although they be grosse Idolaters yet they blesse themselues in this their wickednes crying Peace when there is no peace Therefore shew I pray you what Idolatry is that all s eing it may auoyde it if they will not wilfully perish also that I may bee the better able to conuince others of it Odeg. Idolo-latria is a word compounded of Idolon signifying an Image shape forme likenes Idolatry 〈◊〉 ●ar or representation and Latria which signifie seruice worship obedience or reuerence so that Idolatry in short is a seruice of likenes either of false Gods in stead of the true or else of false worships in stead of the true hence is plaine that he that worshipeth a false God or pretendeth to worship the true God in a false māner which indeed is not the worship of the true God for God cannot be worshipped after a false manner He is an Idolater shal neuer enter into Gods fauor without repentance for as the sin of speaking in the name of a false God and speaking falshood in the name of the true God is all one so shall the punishment be * Deut. 18.20 Ereu. You hauing now spoken something of Repentance in generall and particularly of Idolatrie of which euery soule that therein hath transgressed must repent or he cannot enter into the Kingdome of God as I see I pray you proceed to the next which is Faith Odeg. Faith toward God is diuersly taken in the Scriptures as 1. For a confident beleeuing that God is 2. What God through Christ hath done 3. Of what God through Christ hath promised 4. Of what God through Christ hath cōmanded All which a man hath in a measure before he repenteth for his Faith of these prouoketh him to repent but Faith in this place is taken for a confident assurance of the pardon of his sinnes repented of vnto iustification before God through Christ which no man can haue vntill he haue repented Ereu. The next in order is Baptismes aboue which is much controuersie therefore I desire to heare what you can say in it Odeg. There are in the new Testament diuers Baptismes mentioned which I shal speake of hereafter in their due places but now I am to speake of that which was called Iohns Baptisme as Paul calleth the Gospell his * Rom. 26. in that they were the teachers thereof not otherwise which Baptisme is Repentance for the remission of sinnes and washing with water into the Name of the Father c. In which it shall appeare who are to haue it who not Baptisme or washing with water appertaineth onely to them that declareth their repentance and Faith vnto those Disciples of Christ that Baptise them This appeareth by Iohn Baptist doctrine and practice he Preached the Baptisme of repentance for the remission of sinnes * Math. 1. ● and they were Baptised of him in Iorden confessing their sinnes * Math. 3.6 confirmed by the practise of IESVS his Disciples in the Cities of Israell they made and Baptised Disciples * Ioh. 4.1 3.22 Afterwards in his commission for all Nations Goe therefore make Disciples all Nations Baptising them * Mat. 28.19 c. He that shall beleeue and be Baptised shall be saued * Mark 16.16 c. According to which commission they continually taught and practised Amend and be Baptised euery one * Act. 2.38 Vers 4● c. And they that gladly receiued the word were Baptised * Act. 2.38 Vers 4● Assoone as they beleeued both men and women were Baptised * Act. 8.12 The Eunuch also when he beleeued was Baptised * Act. 10.47 Vers 36. c Cornelius likewise when he had receiued the holy Ghost * Act. 10.47 was Baptised Paul after his Conuersion was Baptised * Act. 9.18 Lydia and her houshold the Iaylor and his houshold when the word was Preached and they beleeued * Act. 16.15 32.33.34 Crispus his houshold when they beleeued * Act. 18.8 The Ephesians after they beleeued * Act. 19.5 These and all the Churches of the new Testament were Baptised after they beleeued as afterwards I shall haue occasion to make further probation of Ereu. This indeed was the practise of the Primitiue Churches it cannot bee denyed but they obiect 1. That was in the Churches infancie 2. They bid you proue this perpetuall Odeg. First when IESVS and his Apostles first planted those Churches they were at as perfect age and in as excellent estate as euer Churches can be at their first plantation but of this at large hereafter 2. All the Cōmandements of Christ are perpetuall and remaine vntill his comming againe The last speaking of the Father is by the Sonne CHRIST * Heb. 1.2 his Commandements are to be kept without spot vntill his appearing * 1 Tim. 6.13.14 wee must earnestly contend for the maintainance of the faith once giuē to the Saincts * Iude 3. 1. Pet. 2 2● This Doctrine that Peter preached amend be Baptised endureth for euer For the Lord hath established his word for euer * Psal 119.152 And if an Angell from heauen Preach or command otherwise let them bee accursed * Gal. 1.8.9 and he that taketh away this word of God God shall take his name out of the booke of life * Reuel 22.18.19 Who so changeth the Lawes of God is Antachrist that exalteth himselfe aboue God * Dan. 7.25 2 Thes 2.4 Ereu. Why may not Infants be Baptised Odeg. Because there is neither commandement example nor true consequence for it in all Christs perfect Testament who was faithfull as Moses in all his house * Heb. 3.2 c. and threatneth most dreadfull Iudgements against all such as either adde too or take from that his perfect Testament * Reuel 22.18.10 and the Sonne is worthy of more honor then the seruant Moses sends vs to him Deut. 18.15 The Father sends vs to him Mat. 17.5 There is now but one Law-giuer Iam. 4.12 That there is neither Commandement nor example in Christs Testament our aduersaries vsually grant and that there is no true consequence I shall manifestly proue taking away clearely all their objections to euery mans conscience in the sight of God First let