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A37412 A true & faithful relation of what passed for many yeers between Dr. John Dee ... and some spirits tending ... to a general alteration of most states and kingdomes in the world : his private conferences with Rodolphe, Emperor of Germany, Stephen, K. of Poland, and divers other princes about it ... : as also the letters of sundry great men and princes ... to the said D. Dee / out of the original copy written with Dr. Dees own hand, kept in the library of Sir Tho. Cotton, Kt. Baronet ; with a preface confirming the reality (as to the point of spirits) of this relation ... by Meric Casaubon ... Dee, John, 1527-1608.; Casaubon, Meric, 1599-1671.; Kelly, Edward, 1555-1595. 1659 (1659) Wing D811; ESTC R11048 632,551 486

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your hearts that the sap of your understanding may receive strength and that you mayflourish with acceptable Truth as the chosen servants and Ministers of the Highest Totus mundus in maligno positus est and is become the open shop of Satan to deceive the Merchants of the Earth with all abhomination But what are you the Pedlers of such wares or the Carriers abroad of lies and false doctrine Do you think it is a small matter to tie the sense of Gods Scriptures and mysteries unto the sense and snatching of your Imaginations Do you count it nothing to sit in judgment against the Spirit of God leaving him no place but at your limitation Is it lawful before the Sonne of God to spend the whole dayes yea many yeares with the Sonnes of Satan the lying imps and deceivers of the World Are you so far entred into the shop of abhomination that you point unto the Sonne of God the time of his comming the descending of his Prophets and the time wherein he shall visit the Earth Moses durst not speak but from the Lords mouth The Prophets expounded not the Law but the voice of the Lord. The Sonne of God spake not his own words in that he was flesh but the words of his Father His Disciples taught not but through the holy Ghost Dare you therefore presume to teach and open the secret Chamber of the Highest being not called Tell me have you left your Merchandize and the counting of your mony deceitfully gotten to beome Teachers of the Word of God Are you not ashamed to teach before you understand yea are you not ashamed to lead away where you cannot bring home Hypocrites you are and void of the Holy Ghost lyars you are become and the enemies of Christ and his holy Spirit Peradventure you will say in reading the Scriptures we understand But tell me by what spirit you understand them what Angel hath appeared unto you or of which of the Heavens have you been instructed It may be you will say of the Holy Ghost O thou fool and of little understanding Dost thou not understand that the Holy Ghost is the School-master of the Church of the whole Flock Congregation of Christ If he be the School-master therefore over a multitude it followeth then that one doctrine taught by the Holy Ghost is a lesson or an understanding of a multitude But what multitude are of thine understanding or of what Congregation art thou Wilt thou say thou art scattered Thou speakest fasly thou art a runnagate But behold I teach thee and thy error is beforethy face Whosoever doth understand the Scriptures must seek to understand them by Ordinance and spiritual tradition But of what spiritual tradition understandest thou or by what Ordinance are the Scriptures opened unto thee Thou wilt say thou art informed by the Holy Fathers and by the same Spirit that they taught by the same Spirit thou understandest Thou sayest so but thou dost not so Which of thy Fore-fathers hath tied reason to the Word of God or the understanding of the Scriptures to the Discipline of the Heathen I say unto thee that thy Fore-fathers were dear unto Christ were pertakers of the heavenly visions and celestial comforts which visions and celestial comforts did not teach unto them a new exposition of the Scriptures but did confirm and give light unto the mysteries of the Holy Ghost spoken by the Apostles the ground-layers and founders of the Church Whatsoever therefore thou learnest of thy Fore-fathers thou learnest of the Apostles and whatsoever thou learnest of the Apostles thou hast by the Holy Ghost But if thou expound the Fathers after thy sense not after the sense of the Apostles thou hast not the Holy Ghost but the spirit of lying Therefore humble thy self and fall down before the Lord. Lay reason aside and cleave unto him Seek to understand his word according to his holy Spirit Which holy Spirit thou must needs find and shalt find in a visible Church even unto the end I will plainly say unto thee That Truth may appear mightily in light Whosoever is contrary unto the will of God which is delivered unto his Church taught by his Apostles nourished by the Holy Ghost delivered unto the World and by Peter brought to Rome by him there taught by his Successors held and maintained is contrary to God and to his Truth Luther hath his reward Calvin his reward The rest all that have erred and wilfully runne astray separating themselves from the Church and Congregation of Christ obstinately and through the instigation of their father the Devil have their reward Against whom the Sonne of God shall pronounce judgment saying Go you deceivers into Hell fire provided for your Father and his Children from the beginning You rise up amongst your selves saying The Pope is Antichrist For by this name you call him an evil man he may be and fall from his vocation But he can never be Antichrist For Antichrist is he the sonne of the Devil a man flesh and bloud born of a wicked and deceitful Harlot that shall seduce the people swell with the strength of his father and resist God in Earth amongst men as his father did in Heaven among the Angels utterly denying his Omnipotency and setting himself against him O you fools and of little understanding When unto the Apostles the Keyes of Heaven were given that is to say the same authority and power of Christ Jesus the Sonne of the Living God to forgive sinnes and to exclude sinners from the Kingdome of Heaven An when unto the same Apostles it was said also Come behind me Satan you have not under standing to see into the mysteries of the Highest if the Sonne of God did commend and reprehend his Disciples why may not therefor a Bishop be counted good and evil if it follow therefor that good aend evil may be a Bishop it followeth also that neither good nor evil addeth unto the Authority of a Bishop but unto his own life if he be good he reapeth the benefit of his goodnesse but if he be evil he is a Lyar because his Doctrine is against himself if therefore for the sinne of man God hath suffered many in the spirit of Ananias to sit in the holy place it is for your finnes sake and for your rebellious nature to be punished And not for the obscuring or darkning of his Church Open your eyes therefore and understand and cleave to the Church for the Church sake and not for the love of man Despise not the Church because of the transgressions of man But submit your neck under that holy yoke and ordinance which shall lead you to the Congregation governed by the Spirit of God wherein you shall under stand the secrets of God his Book to be interpreted according to the sense of your fathers whose understanding was the finger of the Holy Ghost you cannot authorise your selves and without
and preserved But by Truth and Sincerity intending not only Dr. Dee's fidelity in relating what himself believed but also the reality of those things that he speaks of according to his relation his only but great and dreadful error being that he mistook false lying Spirits for Angels of Light the Divel of Hell as we commonly term him for the God of Heaven For the Truth then and Sincerity or Reality of the Relation in this sense I shall first appeal to the Book it self I know it is the fashion of many I will not say that I never did it my self that are buyers of books they will turn five or six leaves if they happen upon somewhat that pleaseth their fancy the book is a good book and when they have bought it it concerneth them to think so because they have paid for it but on the other side if they light upon somewhat that doth not please which may happen in the best they are as ready to condemn and cast away It is very possible that some such buyer lighting upon this and in it upon some places here and there where some odd uncouth things may offer themselves things ridiculous incredible to ordinary sense and construction he may be ready to judge of the whole accordingly But for all this I will in the first place appeal to the book it self but with this respect to the Reader that he will have patience to read in order one fourth part of the book at least before he judge and if by that time he be not convicted he shall have my good will to give it over Not but that all the rest even to the end doth help very well to confirm the truth and reality of the whole Story but because I think there is so much in any fourth part if diligently read and with due consideration that I despair of his assent that is not convicted by it For my part when the book was first communicated unto me by that Right worthy Gentleman who is very studious to purchase and procure such Records and Monuments as may advantage the truth of God all truth is of God and the honour of this Land following therein the example of his noble Progenitor by his very name Sir Robert Cotton known to all the Learned as far as Europe extendeth I read it cursorily because I was quickly convinced in my self that it could be no counterfeit immaginarie businesse and was very desirous to see the end so far as the book did go Afterwards when I understood that the said worthy Gentleman especially as I suppose relying upon my Lord of Armagh's judgment and testimonie which we have before spoken of was willing it should be published and that he had committed the whole business unto me I read it over very exactly and took notes of the most remarkable passages as they appeared unto me truly I was so much confirmed in this first opinion by my second reading that I shall not be afraid to profess that I never gave more credit to any Humane History of former times All things seemed unto me so simply and yet so accurately and with so much confirmation of all manner of circumstances written and delivered that I cannot yet satisfie my self but all judicious Readers will be of my opinion But nevertheless to help them that trust not much to their own judgments let us see what can be said First I would have them that would be further satisfied to read Dr. d ee in that forecited Preface where he doth plead his own cause to acquit himself of that grievous crime and imputation of a Conjurer But that was written I must confess long before his Communication with Spirits yet it is somewhat to know what opinion he had then of them that deal with Divels and evil Spirits But after he was made acquainted and in great dealings with them and had in readiness divers of these his books or others of the same Argument containing their several conferences and communications to shew and the manner of their appearing exactly set down observe I pray with what confidence he did address himself to the greatest and wisest in Europe To Queen Elizabeth often and to her Council as by many places of this Relation doth appear but more particularly by his Letter to Sir Francis Walsingham Secretary c. That he did the like to King James and his Councel may easily be gathered by the Records in this Relation of 1607. but much defective But then to the Emperor Rodolphe to Stephen King of Poland and divers other Princes and their Deputies the wisest and learnedst their several Courts did afford for the time the particulars of all which addresses and transactions are very exactly set down in the book Nay such was his confidence that had it not been for the Nuncius Apostolicus his appearing against him at the Emperors Court by order from the Pope he was as by some places may be collected resolved for Rome also not doubting but he should approve himself and his doings to the Pope himself and his Cardinals In all these his addresses and applications being still very ready to impart all things unto them that would entertain them with that respect he thought they deserved yea readily which is very observable even to receive them into this Mystical Society whom he thought worthy and in some capacity to promote the design as de facto he did divers in several places Albertus Alasco Prince Palatine of Polonia Puccius a learned man and Prince Rosemberg in Germany who were long of the Society besides some admitted to some Actions for a while as Stephen King of Poland and some others We will easily grant as elsewhere hath been treated and handled at large that a distempered brain may see yea and hear strange things and entertain them with all possible confidence as real things and yet all but fancy without any real sound or Apparition But these sights and Apparitions that Dr. Dee gives here an account are quite of another nature yea though possibly the Divel might represent divers of these things to the fancy inwardly which appeared outwardly Yet of another nature I say and not without the intervention and operation of Spirits as will easily appear to any man by the particulars Besides the long Speeches Discourses Interlocutions upon all occasions and occurrences in the presence of more then one alwayes and externally audible to different persons for the most part or very frequently That these things could not be the operation of a distempered Fancy will be a sufficient evidence to any rational man Again let his usual preparations and Prayers against an Apparition or Action as he called them his extraordinary prayers upon some extraordinary occasions as upon Edward Kelley his temporary repentance and another for him when he was about to forsake him in Latine a long one Stephen King of Poland being then present And again when his Son Arthur was to be initiated to these Mystical