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A33973 A reasonable account why some pious, nonconforming ministers in England judge it sinful for them to perform their ministerial acts, in publick, solemn prayer by the prescribed forms of others wherein several of their arguments are modestly propounded, opended and justified against pretended answers given to them, either by Ireneus Freeman, or Mr. Falconer, in his book entituled Liberitas ecclesiastica, or others : the strength also of the several arguments brought by them, for the lawfulness of forms to be used universally by ministers, in their publick ministrations, is fairly tried. Collinges, John, 1623-1690.; Freeman, Ireneus.; Falkner, William, d. 1682. Libertas ecclesiastica. 1679 (1679) Wing C5330; ESTC R14423 97,441 180

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Scripture For the distribution of them It is no further work then every hand can do what words to use Our Saviour hath set down from which we know no need to vary In using of them can be no errour in deviating from them indeed there may For the Application of Exhortation Prayer to that act surely he that can Pray and Preach can do that The like is to be said of the other Sacrament so that a Righteous law that all should keep to the Scriptural-institution is enough we think in that case And wonder at their fancies That think of such a special need of a form in those cases believing no pretence of necessity but what depends upon a fancy of a reasonableness to add to the Divine institution in the case of which we cannot be convinced For God-fathers and God-mothers and Forms of questions to be propounded to them we understand neither necessity nor use of them much less any particular Forms of words besides those the Scripture gives us for Consecration or to be used in the Distribution of the elements in the Supper The points in dispute can this way come into no dispute that we know nor any error infused into poeple It is mens varying from the Institution in this case which alone hath given advantage to the Envious one to sow tares If any minister having the elements of bread and wine before him shall read I The words of Institution as delivered by the Evangelists or the Apostle Paul Then solemnly praying to God First That as he had instituted that ordinance for the remembrance of Christ The shewing forth of his death The communion of his body and bloud c. So he would at that time bless it to those ends c. Pardoning his peoples want of preparation and accepting them in their desires to honour him in his own institutions c. Or to that purpose Then giving the bread repeating onely our Saviours words with but a small and that necessary change Take eat This is the body of Christ in stead of my body which was broken for you And after the cup repeating onely Christs words This cup is the new Testament in the bloud of Christ c. We would fain know if this man concluding all with a prayer hymn of thanksgiving had not duly administred the Sacrament of the Lords Supper If he had what need is there of forms of words in this case other then what the holy Scriptures have given us For as to the Prayer before and after as we conceive him a pitiful minister and very unfit to be trusted with that office which often calleth him to pray upon particular emergent occasions for which a form cannot be made ready if he cannot without it apply his petitions to the particular business in hand viz. The administration of the Sacrament So if he distrusteth himself he may compose himself a form of prayer fitted for that purpose For the administration of that ordinance is seldom or never so sudden as to surprice a minister So for the other Sacrament Will any one dare to say That a lawful minister having water before him who shall first beg of God To own and bless his own institution To wash away the sin of the person to be baptized with his own bloud And to grant that it may be born again of water and the Spirit c. Or to the like purpose And then having had a previous knowledge That the parent is a believer i. e. one who either hath a true faith or maketh profession of such true faith shall take water and pour or sprinkle it upon the childs face or dip the person in it saying J. Baptize thee in the Name of the Father Son and Holy Ghost is not truly Baptized A prayer and thanksgiving usually concludes the Action But what need here of a form more then the Scripture hath furnished us with or directed us to May one minister say J. Baptize thee c. Another Let this person be Baptized c. A third Be thou Baptized c For our parts we think the difference not so much as to require a prescribed form to reconcile and should not doubt but the person were truly Baptized under any of those variations of words Water being poured or sprinkled on it and the action declared to be in the name of the Father Son and Holy Ghost We conclude as we said before That we can see nothing in either Sacrament but the inventions of men superadding to the institutions of the gospel diverse rites and actions of which Christ never spake which makes any pretence for a need of Forms in the administration of them There being nothing to be done in them that requireth any special ability comparable to that which Preaching Praying according to the various states of the church and the particular cases of souls in it doth require § 23 Mr. Falconers Fift Reason is thus by himself expressed To be an evidence to other churches and future times after what way and manner we worship God and that both the matter and expression of our service to him is sound and pious in our general and common worship And this may be a full Testimony That such a church receiving the true faith and expressing a right way of worship is both a true and in its measure a pure and incorrupt church We answer 1 Where hath God required the leaving any such Testimony 2 If he had forms of prayer had not been sufficient without forms of Sermons too 3 While we declare our selves Christians and that we worship God according to his word we leave a sufficient Testimony that we are a true church of God 4 A confession of faith publickly owned subscribed unto by all ministers which we never opposed doth far better effect this which may be done without making a new act or mode of worship § 24 Mr. Falconer at last comes to this argument from example which yet he doth not lay so much stress upon as to aver They evince a necessity of Forms but he thinks the countenance the lawfulness and expediency of them For what he saith about the Lords prayer it is answered by us before In short It reacheth not the case There can be no conclusion from Christs power to the power of ordinary Governors now in the church Or from the lawfulness of Christs disciples using a Form of prayer dictated by Christ himself in that time before his ascension and the effusion of the Holy Ghost to the lawfulness of ministers in after ages using a bundle of forms neither composed by Christ nor by his Apostles Besides the probabilities we have before offered that even then when it was first given it was not intended for a form of words nor do we ever read of it after so used but as a more general direction for the ordinary matter of our prayers § 25 As to what Mr. Falconer saith further of Scripturalforms it hath had its answer from