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A00273	A dialogue or Familiar talke betwene two neighbours co[n]cernyng the chyefest ceremonyes, that were, by the mighti power of Gods most holie pure worde, suppressed in Englande, and nowe for vnworthines, set vp agayne by the bishoppes, the impes of Antichrist: right learned, profitable, and pleasaunt to be read, for the comfort of weake co[n]sciences in these troublous daies. Read first, and then iudge.		1554 (1554)	STC 10383; ESTC S115543	27,807	78

on the outwarde thinges we se so our soules are fed with the inward thinges we see not For the verye flesh of Christ is not eaten wyth our bodilye tethe nor his bloude dronke with our bodily mouthes or throtes but it is a sacramental eating done bi the soule minde not by the bodye or carnal instruments of the body Nicho. Howe can we eate but with our tethe or how can we drincke but wyth our throtes Oliu. You shal the better vnderstande thys misterye if you marke Christes dede when his holye sacrament was first instituted Christ him selfe satte at the table with his .xii. Apostles and taking the bread that stode before them euen such bread as they then vsuallye had to eate with the pascall lambe and gaue thanckes to hys heauenlye father and brake that bread and gaue it to them saying Take eate ye this is mi bodi whiche is broken for you They dyd take the bread and did eate as he commaunded them and they dyd drincke the cup that he delyuered them saying this is my bloude of the new testament which is shed for you Yet it was the next daye ere his bodye was broken and hys bloud shed vpon the crosse for vs and he sat whole amongst them at supper and him selfe did eate of that same bread which he called his body and dyd him selfe drink of that cuppe which he called his bloud therfore by faith they dyd receyue and eate his body drink his bloud They beleued that hys death and passion shoulde be for them and into remission for theyr sinnes as we now that Christ is ascended into heauen by faith doo eate his body broken and drincke his bloud shed although that he liueth sitteth on the right hand of his father But Christes veri naturall bodye is not toren with our teethe as the Capernites erroure thincketh nor yet his bloud dornk with our throtes mouthes But Nicholas haue you not a soule as wel as a bodye Nicho. Yes that I haue Oliue what maner of thing is your soule Nicho. By mi troth I can not tel Olyu I thinke Nicholas no more cā the greatest doctor of them al. And therfore because the soule is vnknowen vnto vs the scripture speaking of the soule those thinges that appertain vnto it vseth such wordes as we are aquainted with ascribeth those things vnto the soule that ar proper vnto the body So Dauid said My soule O Lorde thirsteth vnto the. And Christ saith Blessed are those that hunger and thurste for rightuousnes The harty desire of the soule is the hunger and thurst of the soule as the herty desire of meate and drincke is the hunger thurst of the bodi Therfore when a sinner feleth the burden of sinne vpon his conscience and the lacke of strength and power to do the wyl of God and is touched wyth gods spirit to be sory for this vnperfectnes and longeth fain to be deliuered this is the hunger of the soule This hunger is not satisfied tyl he heare the preaching of christes bodie broken for our sinnes that by his bloudshed our synnes ar forgiuen vs our infirmities healed we receiued into the grace and fauour of God But when we beleue this then is our hunger slaked and our thurst put away that is we feare no more dampnation but knowe that in Christ we haue our pardon Thus we eate Christ beleuing that his body was brokē for vs and that his blud was shed for our sinnes Nich. wherfore eat we the Sacrament than we maye do this by hearing the preaching Oliu. I am glad that thou askest me this question for it seemeth thou wouldest faine vnderstand something of this matter As to writinges men set to seales for a confyrmation of the same writinges so Christ set to his worde his Sacramentes for a confirmation of our faith in his worde And to put vs the better in memory of the gifte geuen vnto vs by his word he called the same Sacramentes by the name of the gift geuen vnto vs in them So circumcisiō is called the Lordes league the pascal lambe is called the Lordes passing thorow Egipt Babtisme is called the new birth and the breade and wine is called the bodie and bloud of the Lord. Therefore Nicholas marke wel this In the Lords Sacraments ther ar .ii. things an earthli thing and an heauenli In Baptisme the earthli thing is water that washeth the bodie the heauenlie thing is the blod of Christ that washeth the soule and the holie gost renuing the hole man and sanctifying him in Iesu Christ In the holi supper of the Lord the earthli thing is bread and wine that we receiue at our mouthes into our bodyes which are digested in our stomaks and bi the natural powers conuerted chaūged into our substaūce and the excrementes of thē naturalli cast forth frō vs as other meates be but the heauenlie things at the blessed bodi of our lord sauiour Iesus Christ broken for vs his bloud shedde for vs vpon the crosse which we receiue bi faith with al the blessed frutes and profites that Christ bi his deathe resurrection ascencion intercession and priesthoode hathe obtained for vs. This swetelie and comfortablie we meditate in our mindes bi the working of the holy ghost it is distribute into al our actions dedes and we are wholi receiued into Christ to be one bodie wyth him as S. Paule saieth Heb. ii He that sanctifieth and thei whiche are sanctified are al of one And againe S. Paule saith The cuppe of thankesgeuing which we blisse is partaking of the bloud of Christ and the bread whiche we brake is partaking of the body of Christ For we though we be mani yet ar one bread one bodie in asmuch as we al ar partakers of one bread Nicho. These ar good words but our sir Iohn wil denie all this and we must do as our curate teacheth vs. Oliu. what teacheth he you Nic. That he offereth vp Christ in his Masse for our frendes soules Oliu. Yea but take awai moni that ye like fooles giue him and he wil sing another song In verye dede Christ was offered for our sinnes Heb. ix x but that was once for al and then he offered him self vpō the crosse as our Crede saith after he had so by that offering satisfied vnto God neither neded he anye more to sacrifice nor we ani more sacrifices for vs. For by one oblation once offered he hath made perfect vnto God al that are sanctified Sir Iohn therefore is a false Antichrist and a disceiteful iugler in this point teacheth his owne dreame and not gods worde And I pray you what woorde of God hath sir Iohn to hang vp the Sacrament in the pixe Nicho. Mary sir it is a goodly sight in the churche Oliuer But Nicholas oure crede saith Mat. xvi Lu. xxiiii Actes i. that Christ ascēded in to heauen and sitteth on the right hand of God the

father almighti And S. Peter saieth The heauens muste receiue him vntyll the tyme that al thing be restored And the angels said he should come from heauen as he ascended visiblie shal be sene Sir Ihō therfore doth great wrong to hang vp breade in the Pixe and to make the people beleue that it is Christes bodye or Christes Sacrament either Nich. why is it not the holy Sacrament Oliu. water in the fount is no Sacrament but when it is put to the vse that Christ appointed it then it is a Sacrament So bread wine are no Sacramentes vntil they be put to the vse that Christ appoynted that is to be eaten in remembraunce of his body brokē and of his bloud shed then are they Sacramentes and the worthy receyuer hath the promises of Christ but the vnworthie receiueth hys condemnatiō But whē the bread is made a gase a pageāt of a plai borne about for a pompe hanged vp to be worshipped it is an horrible abuse of Christes Sacrament For Christ neuer apointed any such worshipping of his sacramentes Nicho. why may we not worship the holy sacramēt Oliu. Yes forsoth ▪ we do worshippe it with most high honour when we vse it as Christ commaunded it to be vsed that is to eate the bread and to drinke the cup in Christes remembraūce Nich. Nai sir Iohn teacheth vs to sai a pater noster to the sacramēt to find a light afore it such like Oli. Sir Iohn hath that out of his owne brain ▪ and vnlearned nole Christ nor his Apostles nor any of the auncient doctours neuer taught any suche doctrine But I pray you what can sir Iohn do more Nicho. Manye goodlye thinges Oliue what I pray the Nich. He cā make holy water holy bread holy palme holy ashes holy candels Oliu. wherfore is holy water good Nic. To driue a war diuels troublous dreames to wash away venial sins Oli. what callest thou veniall synnes Nich. Light sinnes ▪ as swearinge of custome by gods bodye sides woundes c. telling of ribauldry tales drincking dronken and kyssing of prety wēches Oli. These be horrible sinnes in the sight of God Ephes v. and S. Paule saith for such thinges sake the wrathe of God cōmeth vpō the children of vnbelefe what callest thou deadli sin Nich. Losing of Masse Matins Euensōg breaking of imber daies vigils and lenten Oliu. Ah Lord how you worship God in vayne Math. xv Esa xxix being afraide to breake mens traditions would to God men were but halfe so ready to keepe Gods commaundementes But what remedye for those deadlye synnes Nicho. we must be shryuen to syt Iohn he shal geue vs penaunce Oliu. what is penaūce Nic. That our gostly father enioyneth vs as to sai iii. pater nosters in the worship of God and saint Iulian to fast saint Anthonies fast or to say euerye daye our Ladies psalter Oliue And are thy syns then forgeuen the when thou haste done thy penaūce Nich. why not whē I haue made amendes for them Can God haue any more then amendes Oli. Ye are deceiued Nicholas eueri wai For first ye think that synne whych in some cast is done and that which euer is horrible and great sinne afore god ye count it light and smal or no sin Againe ye thincke your synnes to be put awaye for your owne penaunce doynge and for the worthynesse of your owne woorkes whych is to to greate a blasphemye Nichol. why shoulde I not beleue that I am absolued when Syr Iohn layeth hys hande vpon me Oliuer what saith he when he absolueth thee Nicho. Many good woordes I warrant you Oliu. I trow so but what I praye the Nicho. By my troth I can not tel but beleue wel and haue well Oliu. But howe canst thou beleue that thou vnderstādest not Nich. I beleue if I be shriuen thē he beareth al the charge not I. Olyu So maiest thou be easly deceiued But Nicholas Ioel. i. Eze. xviii true penaūce or repentaunce is a tournyng with the hart vnto God hating and detesting of the sin afore passed ii Cor. v. Ephe. iiii trusting to haue forgiuenes by Iesus Christ and fully studying to liue a newe lyfe in tyme to come Thys should sir Iohn preache to vs in Englishe that our hartes maye be broosed vnto repentaunce by the law condempning vs and quickened again bi the gratious promise of the gospel I say it shoulde be don in English that we mai hear it and vnderstande it beleue it and so be absolued from our sins For they that repent and beleue are absolued bi Christ but such as do not sir Iohn mai absolue them at his pleasure but Christ absolueth them not Therefore a latin absolution to an English sinner is as good as a shulder of mutten for a sycke horsse And thynckest thou that thou art able to make a mendes for thi sinnes Nicho. whi not Oliuer wherfore died Christ then Gala. iii. if we could make amendes with our good dedes what neded we Christ then Neded his bodi to haue bene broken for our sinnes if our dedes could haue made amendes Or neded his bloude to haue bene shedde if holy water coulde haue washed awaye our synnes Christes death were in vaine if we by our owne merites might haue deserued reconciliation pardon at the hande of God Nicho. And shal I not do good dedes fast and pray ▪ and humble my selfe before God Oliu. Yes Nicholas if thou be hartely sory thou shalt weepe and lament thy wickednes fast and tame thy sinful carcasse pray and instantly aske mercie of God thi father But yet al these cannot make amendes to God for thy wickednesse committed for then neded thou not Christs death nor bloudshed to be betwene God the but thou wilt not forsake that I trust Nicho. No god forbodde I should Oliuer Then marke thys wel al thy good dedes are dewty for the time present not amendes for thy time past For if thou haddest done no sinne at all art thou not bound to kepe gods commaūdementes I trow yes But if thou offend against gods commaūdementes then must thou repent turne to god and aske pardon in Christes name and so obtain forgiuenes by his deathe who hath made amendes for the and from that time forward walke in gods commaundementes obedientlye And if thou haue hurt or harmed thy neighbour reason wold thou shuldest make him amēdes Didst thou neuer fal out with non of thi neighbours Nich. Yes by our ladi somtime Oliu. And didst thou no displeasure to thē in thine anger Nicho. No by god but as I came frō the hai making with mi pitch forke I dabbed a Cowe of hys in the flancke that she dyed of it Oliuer And what penaunce didst thou for that spiteful dede Nich. I said .v. Pater nosters in the worship of God and the .v. woundes and gaue a peny to a poore man Oliue Here if thou hadst hadde a good

blessed mot he be Oliu. Nicholas ye blesse Christ but you cal his word new learning herisie and babling Nich. Naye that I do not Oliuer Did not you cal the holy readyng of the Byble so euen now Nich. why our sir Iohn telleth vs it was made by king Harry theight Oli. No good Nicholas no. That gratious king set it out and commaūded that the people should reade it without ani letting But the Bible is gods boke and al that is in it is gods truth Therfore the old fathers that we should folow ar Christes prophetes and Apostles and Christ him selfe and not our old grandsires grandames For God geueth an expresse cōmaundement zacha i. saying Be not lyke your forefathers vnto whom the prophets cryed before tyme saying Thus saith the lord god of hostes Turne from your euell waies and from your wicked imaginations they heared not nor toke heede vnto me saieth the Lorde Nich. Our forefathers were good men Olyuer But yet Christ was better Nich. They were wise men Oliu. Yea but yet Christe was wyser Nich. They were holy men Oliue But Christ is holier And what soeuer you can recken of them goodnes i. corin i. wisedome holynes c. Christ excelleth them in al things For he is made of god vnto vs our wisdō rightuousnes holines sanctification Iho. xiiii and redemption Christ is the way the truth and the life and no man can come to the father but by him He that heareth Christes wordes hath life euerlasting But Nicholas tell me cā sir Iohn make an oxe or an horse Nicho. Nay by mi truth I trow not Oli. How can he thē make gods body Nich. It is no matter how we must beleue so for he saith so Olyu Nay Nicholas we must not beleue al that sir Iohn saith but we must beleue all that he saith and hath gods word to confirme his saying And this is an intollerable pride of the papistes to teach the people that thei make gods body Truth it is Eph. iiii that Christ ascending into heauē gaue gyftes vnto men and appoynted church ministers but far other thē greased shauelinges for he apointed Apostles prophetes Euangelistes Shepheardes and teachers Phili. i. And saint Paule calleth the ministers of the church by the names of Bishops and Deacons i. Tim. iii. The office of these ministers appointed by Christ and S. Paul Luk. xiiii is to preach gods word to cal al men to repentaunce and amendement of life Iohn xxi i. Tim. iiii to declare to them that repent the good newes of the gospel Nich. Yea the prests wer wōt to come to our houses to say vs gospels make vs holi water holy bread and so I trust they wil again now Oliue I pray the heare me a litle The gospel is a glad tidings that god the father Luke ii for his sonne Iesus Christes sake ii cori v. is contented and reconciled and receiueth mā againe to his fauour and grace Gala. iiii and wyll for his sonne Iesus Christes loue take vs by adoptiō to be his children Ephesi i. giue vs his holy gost make vs enheritours of eternal life Ioh. xvii And to confirme this promise our Sauiour Iesus Christ hath ordained .ii. holy sacraments Titus iii. Baptisme wherin we are certified that al our sins are washed away in the death of Christ i. corin xi And the holi supper of the lord that when we come together we should take the bread Mat xxvi breake it Mar. xiiii eate it in remembraunce that Christes bodi was vpon the good Fridai offered vp vpō the crosse for our sinnes Luk. xxii and we shoulde al drinke of the cup in rēmembraūce that Christes bloud was shed for our sins Therfore this is the priestes office to preach the death of Iesus Christ and to teach the people to know that none other thing could deliuer them frō their sins and therfore they ought both to consyder the haynous vglines of sin and the great wrath of god ouer it which otherwise wold not be reconciled nor atone with mā Rom. viii Then on the other parte to declare the great mercy loue charitie of god towards vs that spared not his own beloued sōne but gaue him to the death of the cros for vs. Thus shoulde they be moued to repent the euel done to beleue and loue the charitie of God to walke in loue good frendship one to an other euer studying to liue an obedient life after the heauenly fathers wil and commaundementes Nich. Dothe not the priest make Gods bodye Do we not eate gods body Oliu. First answer me if thou can to a question or two Nicho. I wil if I can Oliue Canst thou say thy Creede in Englishe Nicho. Meanest thou the new Creede or the old Crede Oliuer There is but one Creede Nicho. I can saye that my mother taught me Credum deum I was harping at the new a good while but nowe I care not for it Oliue I se it was not for nought that christ said to his Apostles blessed ar the eyes that se that you se Luke x. For euen as then mani were blind and wold not se the light of his worde Iohn ix euen so is it now wel I wil help you out with your question Do you not beleue that the sonne of God came downe from heauen was borne for vs of the virgine Mary takyng our mans nature of her substaūce Nicho. Yes that I do Oliuer And that he was crucified for our sins dead and buried and rose agayne vpon Esterday Nicho. Yes verely Oliu. And that he ascended into heauen ▪ and sitteth on the righte hand of God the father almighti Nicho. Ye mary ye Olyu And frō thence he shall come to iudge the quicke and the dead Nich. Ye mary Olyu Do you beleue this in very dede Nicho. Ye by my trothe Oliuer Then Christes bodye was made in the wombe of the virgin not by sir Iohn but as our Creede saith he was conceaued of the holy gost Luke i. borne of the virgin mari Other making of Christes body ther is none nor neuer was nor neuer shal be Thus our lord sauiour liued in this world August in Ioa. tract Item in pref pī xcviii taught vs the wai of gods truth euē the doctrine that is set out in the holy Byble wherof the chief and principal article is how we are redemed frō our sinnes and receaued into the fauour and grace of God by that holy raunsome of Christes bodye broken vpon the crosse his precious blud that was on the crosse shed for vs. The holy bread geuē at the lordes supper is the sacrament of Christes bodye that was broken on the crosse and the blessed cup that we drincke is the sacrament of that blessed blud shed for our synnes And when we receiue them as our body fedeth vp

obstinatie and for filthie lucres sake they teach and maintaine such a detestable estate ▪ so as theues are brent in the hand with an hot irō vnto their ppetual shame so these men are dailie burnt in their conscience witnessing againste them that their doctryne and vnchaste liuing pleaseth not God Therefore Nicholas take hede of them remember the old saying priestes doues makes foule houses Nich. I warrant you for sir Iohn he is as honest a mā for an vnmaried priest and is vengeaunce holy as any is with in this .xx. myle and as good a companion Oliue what call ye an honest man and a good companion A good cōpaniō Nicho. A good fellow that wil kepe company all day at the good ale anst playe his xl pence at dise with anye good felow that commeth Yea I haue knowen him kepe companye two daies two nightes with good felowes ere this Bi god I dare say this for sir Iohn if he wer as wel sene in the chapters of the Bible as he is in the tables dise and cardes by God Oliuer he might reason with the best of them and yet I speake not this because I wold praise him Yea yea I tel ye as litle learning as he hath he is a morren felowe Oliu. Happye are the shepe that haue such a shepherd and the soules that sir Iohn syngeth for Your Alewiues loue him wel I dare say and make much of him Nicho. By Saint Iulian elles wer thei to blame for he is a good customer of theirs and spendeth more siluer among them then ani sixe in our parish I dare wel say The bel toleth I haue lost sacrtng a vengeaunce on it with babling with the. But yet I trust to see my maker daunce about the cuppe I wil runne a pace Oliu. I haue lost al my labour with talkyng wyth him Alas it is pitie to se the plain and simple people thus deluded and brought to suche a miserable case that they embrace lyes in stede of truth and errour and superstition in place of true godlynes and Christian religion But euen this was before prophecyed that Antichrist ii Tes v. the son of perdicion should come by the woorking of Sathan with al lying powers signes and wonders ▪ in al disceiueablenes of vnryghtuousnes among them that perishe because they receiued not the loue of the truthe that they might be saued And therfore god shal send them strong illusion ▪ that thei shuld beleue lies that al they might be dāned which beleue not the truth but had pleasure in vnryghteousnes But our Lorde Iesus Christe will come shortely and with the breath of his mouth destroye that aduersary He shal not be destroied bi swerd zach iiii Apo. xix nor strength of mans power but by the power of god bi the swerd of his word Come Lord Iesus lighten the eies of the blinde conuert the hartes of thy people heale our backeslidinges and treade downe Satan and Antichrist his chaplaines And let thi holye name and woorde euer more and more be magnified among vs Let al true Christen hartes say Amen Amen Finis A DIALOGVE OR COMMVnication for two children or vnlettred folkes profitable and easye to be learned WHo made you God almightie wherof made he you Of the mould of the erth VVhat hathe he done more for you Geuen his sonne for me VVhat is his sonnes name Iesus Christ VVhat is Iesus A Sauiour How hath he saued thee He hath redemed me wherfrō hath he redemed the From sinne death dampnatiō VVherewith redemed he thee VVith his precious bloud VVhat is Christ to say An anoynted VVho anoynted him God the Father VVherwith anoynted he hym VVith the holy ghost why is he called Christ or anointed For he is king hishop prophet Of whom is he Kyng Of al Gods elect VVhat doth he for them Gouerne and defend them VVhat is Christ more Our highe priest and Byshoppe Howe is he priest and Byshop Ordained of God After what order After the order of Melchizedech VVhat sacrifice offred he His own body vpon the crosse what doth he sāctifi bi the offrīg Our consciences frō dead workes VVhat are dead workes Synne and wickednes VVhat is Christ els The great prophet promysed VVhat is a Prophetes offyce To declare the councell of God what coūcel hath Christ declared The gospel of Peace what is the Gospell A preaching of glad tydynges what glad tidynges Forgyuenes of synnes freelye what callest thou freelye It cost them nothing whom cost it then Our Lord Christ what cost it him His blessed hart bloud To whō is forgiuenes preached To al that repent and beleue what must they repent Theyr former euyl lyuyng How must they repent From the botom of their heartes Must we not confesse our syns Yes verely To whom must we confesse thē To God whom we haue offēded Must we not confesse to a priest Yes when nede is when is it neede when we can not otherwyse quiet our consciences wherfore should we go to the priest That he may do his office what is his office To preach the law and the gospel and to absolue vs. why must he preache the lawe To broose oure heartes vnto true repentaunce whi must he preach the gospel To teache vs to flye to Christe to rayse vs. How doth the lawe broose our harts It sheweth vs gods wrath dānation for our sinnes How doth the gospell rayse vs It sheweth our sacrifice and atonement maker Who is that The lābe of god offred for our sins who is that lambe offred Iesus Crist crucified How often was he offred Once for al vpon the crosse who offred hym Himselfe and none other Doth not the prist daili offer him No he dieth no more nor is no more offred Is not the ministratiō of the lords supper a sacrifice It is a memory of Christes sacrifice done on the crosse for vs Can we make no sacrifices to god Yes iii. maner of sacrifices what is the first Praise and thankesgeuing prayer to god How is that called in scripture The fruit of their lips that confesse the Lordes name what is the second sacrifice Almes dede mercy to our neyghbours How is that called A swete smel accepted and pleasing to god what is the third sacrifice Mortifiyng of our carnal lustes and desires what is that named in gods word A liuely acceptable offring to god Can the preist absolue vs from our sinnes Ye if he repent beleue the gospel what if a mā repēt not nor beleue Then the prist cannot absolue him what if he repent and beleue Then the prist cannot bynd him Howe doth the preist bynde and absolue By the preaching of Gods worde what if the prist be ignoraunt of gods word Then is he a blind guide Cannot an ignoraunt prist lead vs Yes into the pitte of hell what must he do that is forgeuen his sinne Bringe fourth worthi fruites of repentaunce what ar worthy fruits of repētāce A godly lyfe amending that he before offended in Geue an example The dronkarde must leaue his dronkennes Another The lechourer must forsake hordō A thirde example The swearer must leaue swearing and honour the holy name of god where learnest thou this In S. Peters epistle the .iii. chapter what saith he Turne from euyll and do good what reward shal thei haue that do so The grace and fauour of God and life euerlasting God graunt vs all to doe so and euer to walke in his truth Amen and thankes to God forthe light of his holy word and gospel Amen