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A03590 Of the lavves of ecclesiasticall politie eight bookes. By Richard Hooker.; Ecclesiastical polity. Books 1-4 Hooker, Richard, 1553 or 4-1600.; Spenser, John, 1559-1614. 1604 (1604) STC 13713; ESTC S120914 286,221 214

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and their potent opposites vtterly to cast away themselues for euer Wherefore least it should so fall out to them vpon whom so much did depend they were not permitted to enter into warre nor conclude any league of peace nor to wade through any acte of moment betweene them and forraine states vnlesse the Oracle of God or his Prophets were first consulted with And least domesticall disturbance should wash them within themselues because there was nothing vnto this purpose more effectuall then if the authority of their lawes and gouernors were such as none might presume to take exception against it or to shewe disobedience vnto it without incurring the hatred detestation of al men that had any sparke of the feare of God therefore he gaue them euen their positiue lawes from heauen and as oft as occasion required chose in like sort Rulers also to leade gouerne them Notwithstāding some desperatly impious there were which adventured to try what harme it could bring vpon them if they did attempt to be authors of confusion and to resist both Gouernours and Lawes Against such monsters God mainteined his owne by fearefull execution of extraordinarie iudgement vpon them By which meanes it came to passe that although they were a people infested and mightily hated of all others throughout the world although by nature hard harted querulous wrathful impatiēt of rest and quietnes yet was there nothing of force either one way or other to worke the ruine and subuersion of their state till the time before mentioned was expired Thus we see that there was not no cause of dissimilitude in these things betweene that one only people before Christ and the kingdomes of the world since And whereas it is further alleaged that albeit in Ciuill matters and things perteining to this present life God hath vsed a greater particularity with them then amongst vs framing lawes according to the quality of that people and Countrey yet the leauing of vs at greater liberty in things ciuill is so farre from prouing the like liberty in things pertaining to the kingdome of heauen that it rather proues a streighter bond For euen as when the Lord would haue his fauour more appeare by temporall blessings of this life towards the people vnder the Lawe then towards vs he gaue also politique lawes most exactly whereby they might both most easily come into and most stedfastly remaine in possession of those earthly benefites euen so at this time wherein he would not haue his fauour so much esteemed by those outward commodities it is required that as his care in prescribing lawes for that purpose hath somewhat fallen in leauing them to mens consultations which may be deceiued so his care for conduct and gouernement of the life to come should if it were possible rise in leauing lesse to the order of men then in times past These are but weake and feeble disputes for the inference of that conclusion which is intended For sauing only in such consideration as hath bene shewed there is no cause wherefore we should thinke God more desirous to manifest his fauour by temporall blessings towards them then towards vs. Godlinesse had vnto them and it hath also vnto vs the promises both of this life and the life to come That the care of God hath fallen in earthly things and therefore should rise as much in heauenly that more is left vnto mens consultations in the one and therefore lesse must be graunted in the other that God hauing vsed a greater particularity with them then with vs for matters perteining vnto this life is to make vs amends by the more exact deliuery of lawes for gouernment of the life to come these are proportions whereof if there be any rule we must plainely confesse that which truth is we know it not God which spake vnto them by his Prophets hath vnto vs by his onely begotten Sonne those mysteries of grace and saluation which were but darkely disclosed vnto them haue vnto vs more cleerely shined Such differences betweene them and vs the Apostles of Christ haue well acquainted vs withall But as for matter belonging to the outward cōduct or gouernment of the Church seeing that euen in sense it is manifest that our Lord Sauiour hath not by positiue lawes descended so farre into particularities with vs as Moses with them neither doth by extraordinary means oracles and Prophets direct vs as them he did in those things which rising daily by new occasions are of necessitie to be prouided for doth it not hereupon rather follow that although not to them yet to vs there should be freedome libertie graunted to make lawes Yea but the Apostle S. Paule doth fearefully charge Timothy euen In the sight of God who quickneth all of Christ Iesus who witnessed that famous confession before Pontius Pilate to keepe what was commaunded him safe and sound til the appearance of our Lord Iesus Christ. This doth exclude al liberty of changing the lawes of Christ whether by abrogation or addition or howsoeuer For in Timothy the whole Church of Christ receiueth charge concerning her duty And that charge is to keepe the Apostles commaundement And his commaundement did conteine the lawes that concerned Church gouernement And those lawes he straightly requireth to be obserued without breach or blame till the appearance of our Lord Iesus Christ. In Scripture we graunt euery one mans lesson to be the common instruction of all men so farre forth as their cases are like and that religiously to keepe the Apostles commandemēts in whatsoeuer they may concerne vs we all stand bound But touching that commandement which Timothy was charged with we swarue vndoubtedly from the Apostles precise meaning if we extend it so largely that the armes thereof shall reach vnto all things which were cōmanded him by the Apostle The very words themselues do restraine thēselues vnto some one speciall commandemēt among many And therfore it is not said Keepe the ordinances lawes constitutions which thou hast receiued but 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 that great cōmandement which doth principally concerne thee and thy calling that cōmandement which Christ did so often inculcate vnto Peter that cōmandement vnto the carefull discharge whereof they of Ephesus are exhorted Attend to your selues to all flock wherin the holy Ghost hath placed you Bishops to feed the Church of God which he hath purchased by his owne bloud finally that cōmandement which vnto the same Timothy is by the same Apostle euen in the same forme maner afterwards again vrged I charge thee in the sight of God the Lord Iesus Christ which will iudge the quicke dead at his appearance in his kingdom Preach the word of God When Timothy was instituted into that office then was the credit and trust of this duty committed vnto his faithfull care The doctrine of the Gospell was thē giuen him as the precious talent or treasure of Iesus Christ
ye are not to claime in any such cōferēce other thē the plaintifs or opponents part which must cōsist altogether in proofe cōfirmation of two things the one that our orders by you condēned we ought to abolish the other that yours we are bound to accept in the stead therof Secōdly because the questions in cōtrouersie between vs are many if once we descend vnto particularities that for the easier more orderly proceeding therin the most generall be first discussed nor any questiō left off nor in each questiō the prosecutiō of any one argumēt giuē ouer another takē in hād til the issue wherunto by replies answers both parts are come be collected red acknowledged aswel on the one side as on the other to be the plain cōclusiō which they are grown vnto Thirdly for auoyding of the manifold incōueniēces wherunto ordinary extēporal disputes are subiect as also because if ye should singly dispute one by one as euery mans owne wit did best serue it might be cōceiued by the rest that happily some other would haue done more the chiefest of you do all agree in this action that whom ye shal then choose your speaker by him that which is publikely brought into disputation be acknowledged by al your cōsēts not to be his allegatiō but yours such as ye all are agreed vpō haue required him to deliuer in al your names the true copy whereof being taken by a notarie that a reasonable time be allowed for returne of answere vnto you in the like forme Fourthly whereas a number of conferences haue bene had in other causes with the lesse effectual successe by reason of partiall vntrue reports published afterwards vnto the world that to preuent this euill there be at the first a solemne declaration made on both parts of their agreement to haue that very booke no other set abroad wherin their present authorized notaries do write those things fully only which being written there read are by their owne opē testimony acknowledged to be their owne Other circumstances hereunto belōging whether for the choice of time place and language or for preuention of impertinent and needlesse speech or to any end and purpose else they may be thought on whē occasiō serueth In this sort to broach my priuate conceipt for the ordering of a publike actiō I should be loth albeit I do it not otherwise thē vnder correctiō of thē whose grauitie wisedome ought in such cases to ouerrule but that so venterous boldnes I see is a thing now general am therby of good hope that where al mē are licensed to offēd no man will shew himself a sharp accuser 6. What successe God may giue vnto any such kind of conference or disputation we cannot tell But of this we are right sure that nature scripture and experience it selfe haue all taught the world to seeke for the ending of contentions by submitting it self vnto some iudiciall definitiue sentence wherevnto neither part that cōtendeth may vnder any pretence or colour refuse to stand This must needs be effectuall and strong As for other meanes without this they seldome preuaile J would therefore know whether for the ending of these irksome strifes wherein you and your followers do stand thus formally deuided against the authorized guides of this Church the rest of the people subiect vnto their charge whether I say ye be content to referre your cause to any other higher iudgement then your owne or else intend to persist proceed as ye haue begun til your selues can be perswaded to cōdemn your selues If your determinatiō be this we can be but sorie that ye should deserue to be reckened with such of whom God himselfe pronounceth The way of peace they haue not knowne Waies of peaceable conclusion there are but these two certaine the one a sentence of iudiciall decision giuen by authoritie therto appointed within our selues the other the like kind of sentence giuen by a more vniuersall authoritie The former of which two waies God himselfe in the lawe prescribeth and his Spirit it was which directed the very first Christian Churches in the world to vse the later The ordinance of God in the lawe was this If there arise a matter too hard for thee in iudgement betweene bloud bloud betweene plea c. then shalt thou arise and goe vp vnto the place which the Lord thy God shall choose and thou shalt come vnto the Priests of the Leuites and vnto the Iudge that shall be in those dayes and aske and they shal shew thee the sentence of iudgement thou shalt do according to that thing which they of that place which the Lord hath chosen shewe thee and thou shalt obserue to do according to al that they enform thee according to the law which they shall teach thee and according to the iudgemēt which they shal tell thee shalt thou do thou shalt not decline from the thing which they shal shew thee to the right hand nor to the left And that man that will do presumptuously not harkning vnto the Priest that standeth before the Lord thy God to minister there or vnto the Iudge that man shal dye and thou shalt take away euill from Israel When there grew in the Church of Christ a question Whether the Gentiles belieuing might be saued although they were not circumcised after the manner of Moses nor did obserue the rest of those legall rites ceremonies wherunto the Iewes were bound After great dissension and disputation about it their conclusion in the end was to haue it determined by sentence at Ierusalem which was accordingly done in a Councell there assembled for the same purpose Are ye able to alleage any iust and sufficient cause wherfore absolutely ye should not condescend in this controuersie to haue your iudgements ouerruled by some such definitiue sentence whether it fall out to be giuen with or against you that so these tedious contentions may cease Ye will perhaps make answere that being perswaded already as touching the truth of your cause ye are not to harken vnto any sentence no not though Angels should define otherwise as the blessed Apostles owne example teacheth againe that men yea Councels may erre and that vnlesse the iudgement giuen do satisfie your minds vnlesse it be such as ye can by no further argumēt oppugne in a word vnlesse you perceiue and acknowledge it your selues consonant with Gods word to stand vnto it not allowing it were to sinne against your own cōsciences But cōsider I beseech you first as touching the Apostle how that wherein he was so resolute peremptory our Lord Iesus Christ made manifest vnto him euen by intuitive reuelation wherein there was no possibilitie of error That which you are perswaded of ye haue it no otherwise then by your owne only probable collectiō therefore such bold asseuerations as in him were admirable should in your mouthes but argue
things Charity Faith the true feare of God the Crosse the mortification of the flesh All their exhortations were to set light of the things in this world to count riche● and honors vanitie and in token thereof not onely to seeke neither but if men were possessors of both euen to cast away the one resigne the other that all men might see their vnfained conuersion vnto Christ. They were sollicitors of men to fasts to often meditations of heauenly things as it were cōferences in secret with God by prayers not framed according to the frosen maner of the world but expressing such feruēt desires as might euen force God to hearken vnto them Where they found men in diet attire furniture of house or any other way obseruers of Ciuilitie and decent order such they reprooued as being carnally and earthly minded Euery word otherwise then seuerely and sadly vttered seemed to pierce like a sword thorow them If any man were pleasant their manner was presently with deepe sighes to repeate those words of our Sauiour Christ Wo be to you which now laugh for ye shall lament So great was their delight to be alwaies in trouble that such as did quietly lead their liues they iudged of all other men to be in most dangerous case They so much affected to crosse the ordinary custome in euery thing that when other mens vse was to put on better attire they would be sure to shew thēselues openly abroad in worse the ordinary names of the daies in the weeke they thought it a kind of prophanes to vse therefore accustomed thēselues to make no other distinction then by numbers The First Second Third day From this they proceeded vnto publike reformatiō first Ecclesiasticall and then Ciuill Touching the former they boldly aduouched that themselues only had the truth which thing vpon perill of their liues they would at all times defend that since the Apostles liued the same was neuer before in al points sincerely taught Wherfore that things might againe be brought to that auncient integritie which Iesus Christ by his word requireth they began to controule the ministers of the Gospell for attributing so much force and vertue vnto the Scriptures of God read whereas the truth was that when the word is said to engender faith in the heart and to conuert the soule of man or to worke any such spirituall diuine effect these speeches are not thereunto appliable as it is read or preached but as it is ingrafted in vs by the power of the holy Ghost opening the eyes of our vnderstanding and so reuealing the mysteries of God according to that which Ieremy promised before should be saying I will put my law in their inward parts and I will write it in their hearts The booke of God they notwithstanding for the most part so admired that other disputation against their opinions then onely by allegation of Scripture they would not heare besides it they thought no other writings in the world should be studied in so much as one of their great Prophets exhorting them to cast away all respects vnto humane writings so far to his motion they condescended that as many as had any bookes saue the holy Bible in their custody they brought and set them publiquely on fire When they and their Bibles were alone together what strange phantasticall opinion soever at any time entred into their heads their vse was to thinke the Spirit taught it them Their phrensies concerning our Sauiours incarnation the state of soules departed such like are things needlesse to be rehearsed And for as much as they were of the same suite with those of whom the Apostle speaketh saying They are still learning but neuer attaine to the knowledge of truth it was no maruaile to see them euery day broach some new thing not heard of before Which restlesse leuitie they did interpret to be their growing to spirituall perfection and a proceeding from faith to faith The differences amongst them grew by this meane in a maner infinite so that scarcely was there found any one of them the forge of whose braine was not possest with some speciall mysterie Whereupon although their mutuall contentions were most fiercely prosecuted amongst themselues yet when they came to defend the cause common to them all against the aduersaries of their faction they had wayes to licke one another whole the sounder in his owne perswasion excusing THE DEARE BRETHREN which were not so farre enlightned and professing a charitable hope of the mercy of God towards them notwithstanding their swaruing from him in some things Their owne ministers they highly magnified as men whose vocation was frō God the rest their maner was to terme disdainfully Scribes and Pharises to accompt their calling an humaine creature and to deteine the people as much as might be from hearing them As touching Sacraments baptisme administred in the church of Rome they iudged to be but an execrable mockery no baptisme both because the Ministers thereof in the papacy are wicked idolaters lewd persons theeues and murderers cursed creatures ignorant beasts also for that to baptise is a proper action belonging vnto none but the Church of Christ whereas Rome is Antichrists synagogue The custome of vsing Godfathers Godmothers at Christnings they scorned Baptising of infants although confest by thēselues to haue bin continued euē sithens the very Apostles owne times yet they altogether condemned partly because sundry errors are of no lesse antiquity and partly for that there is no commandement in the Gospell of Christ which sayth Baptise infants but he contrariwise in saying Go preach and Baptise doth appoint that the minister of Baptisme shall in that action first administer doctrine thē Baptisme as also in saying whosoeuer doth beleeue and is baptised he appointeth that the party to whō baptisme is administred shall first beleeue then be baptised to the end that belieuing may go before this sacramēt in the receiuer no otherwise then preaching in the giuer sith equally in both the law of Christ declareth not only what things are required but also in what order they are required The Eucharist they receiued pretending our Lord Sauiours example after supper for auoiding all those impieties which haue bin grounded vpon the mysticall words of Christs This is my body This is my bloud they thought it not safe to mention either body or bloud in that Sacrament but rather to abrogate both to vse no words but these Take eate declare the death of our Lord drinke shew forth our Lords death In rites ceremonies their profession was hatred of all cōformity with the Church of Rome for which cause they would rather indure any tormēt then obserue the solemne festiuals which others did in as much as Antichrist they said was the first inuentor of thē The pretended end of their ciuill
which they did condemne The Apostles notwithstanding from whom Stephen had receiued it did not so teach the abrogation no not of those things which were necessarily to cease but that euen the Iewes being Christian might for a time continue in them And therefore in Ierusalem the first Christian Bishop not Circumcised was Marke and he not Bishop till the daies of Adrian the Emperour after the ouerthrow of Ierusalem there hauing bene fifteene Bishops before him which were all of the Circumcision The Christian Iewes did thinke at the first not onely themselues but the Christian Gentiles also bound and that necessarily to obserue the whole lawe There went forth certaine of the sect of Pharises which did beleeue and they comming vnto Antioch taught that it was necessary for the Gentiles to be circumcised and to keepe the lawe of Moses Whereupon there grew dissention Paul and Barnabas disputing against them The determination of the Councell held at Ierusalem concerning this matter was finally this Touching the Gentils which beleeue we haue written determined that they obserue no such thing Their protestation by letters is For as much as we haue heard that certain which departed frō vs haue troubled you with words and combred your minds saying Ye must be circumcised and keepe the lawe knowe that we gaue them no such commandement Paule therefore continued still teaching the Gentiles not onely that they were not bound to obserue the lawes of Moses but that the obseruation of those lawes which were necessarily to be abrogated was in them altogether vnlawfull In which point his doctrine was misreported as though he had euery where preached this not only concerning the Gentiles but also touching the Iewes Wherfore comming vnto Iames and the rest of the Cleargie at Ierusalem they tolde him plainely of it saying Thou seest brother how many thousand Iewes there are which beleeue they are all zealous of the law Now they are informed of thee that thou teachest all the Iewes which are amongst the Gentiles to forsake Moses and sayest that they ought not to circumcise their children neither to liue after the customes And hereupon they gaue him counsell to make it apparent in the eyes of all men that those flying reports were vntrue and that himselfe being a Iew kept the lawe euen as they did In some thinges therefore wee see the Apostles did teach that there ought not to be conformitie betweene the Christian Iewes and Gentiles How many things this lawe of inconformitie did comprehend there is no need we should stand to examine This generall is true that the Gentiles were not made conformable vnto the Iewes in that which was necessarily to cease at the comming of Christ. Touching things positiue which might either cease or continue as occasion should require the Apostles tendering the zeale of the Iewes thought it necessary to binde euen the Gentiles for a time to abstaine as the Iewes did frō things offered vnto idols from bloud frō strangled These decrees were euery where deliuered vnto the Gentiles to bee straightly obserued and kept In the other matters where the Gentiles were free and the Iewes in their owne opinion still tied the Apostles doctrine vnto the Iewe was Condemne not the Gentile vnto the Gentile Despise not the Iewe the one sorte they warned to take heed that scrupulositie did not make them rigorous in giuing vnaduised sentence against their brethren which were free the other that they did not become scandalous by abusing their libertie freedome to the offence of their weake brethren which were scrupulous From hence therefore two conclusiōs there are which may euidently be drawne the first that whatsouer conformitie of positiue lawes the Apostles did bring in betweene the Churches of Iewes and Gentiles it was in those things only which might either cease or continue a shorter or a longer time as occasion did most require the second that they did not impose vpon the Churches of the Gentiles any part of the Iewes ordinances with bond of necessary and perpetuall obseruatiō as we al both by doctrine and practise acknowledge but only in respect of the conueniencie and fitnes for the present state of the Church as thē it stood The words of the Councels decree cōcerning the Gentiles are It seemed good to the holy Ghost to vs to lay vpō you no more burden sauing only those things of necessitie abstinence frō Idoll-offrings frō strangled bloud and frō fornication So that in other things positiue which the cōming of Christ did not necessarily extinguish the Gentils were left altogether free Neither ought it to seeme vnreasonable that the Gentils should necessarily be bound tied to Iewish ordinances so far forth as that decree importeth For to the Iew who knew that their differēce frō other nations which were aliens strangers frō God did especially consist in this that Gods people had positiue ordināces giuen to thē of God himself it seemed maruelous hard that the Christiā Gentils should be incorporated into the same common welth with Gods owne chosen people be subiect to no part of his statutes more then only the lawe of nature which heathēs count thēselues boūd vnto It was an opiniō constātly receiued amongst the Iews that God did deliuer vnto the sonnes of Noah seuē precepts namely to liue in some form of regimēt vnder 1 publique lawes 2 to serue call vpō the name of God 3 to shun Idolatry 4 not to suffer effusiō of bloud 5 to abhor all vncleane knowledge in the flesh 6 to commit no ●apine 7 finally not to eate of any liuing creature whereof the bloud was not first let out if therefore the Gentiles would be exempt from the lawe of Moses yet it might seeme hard they should also cast off euen those things positiue which were obserued before Moses and which were not of the same kinde with lawes that were necessarily to cease And peraduenture hereupon the Councell sawe it expedient to determine that the Gentiles should according vnto the third the seuenth and the fift of those precepts abstaine from things sacrificed vnto idoles from strangled and bloud and from fornication The rest the Gentiles did of their owne accord obserue nature leading them thereunto And did not nature also teach them to abstaine from fornication No doubt it did Neither can we with reason thinke that as the former two are positiue so likewise this being meant as the Apostle doth otherwise vsually vnderstand it But very marriage within a number of degrees being not onely by the lawe of Moses but also by the lawe of the sonnes of Noah for so they tooke it an vnlawfull discouerie of nakednes this discouerie of nakednesse by vnlawfull marriages such as Moses in the lawe reckoneth vp I thinke it for mine owne part more probable to haue bene meant in the wordes of that Canon then fornication according vnto the sense of the lawe of