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A10170 The other parte of Christian questions and answeares which is concerning the sacraments, writte[n] by Theodore Beza Vezelian: to which is added a large table of the same questions. Translated out of Latine into Englishe by Iohn Field.; Quaestionum et responsionum Christianarum libellus. Pars altera. English Bèze, Théodore de, 1519-1605.; Fielde, John, d. 1588. 1580 (1580) STC 2045; ESTC S109027 101,745 336

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spiritual_a and_o heavenly_a matter_n do_v thou_o it_o in_o respect_n of_o his_o divinity_n or_o soul_n answer_n no_o not_o so_o for_o thou_o see_v in_o the_o sacrament_n mention_v to_o be_v make_v express_o of_o the_o blood_n and_o of_o the_o body_n and_o again_o of_o the_o blood_n which_o as_o they_o be_v of_o a_o bodily_a nature_n so_o also_o they_o be_v represent_v by_o bodily_a sign_n to_o wit_n by_o water_n bread_n and_o wine_n 31._o question_n and_o why_o do_v thou_o call_v that_o thing_n spiritual_a and_o heavenly_a answer_n not_o because_o they_o be_v of_o a_o spiritual_a &_o invisible_a substance_n or_o because_o they_o be_v now_o endue_v with_o heavenly_a glory_n as_o the_o apostle_n say_v that_o our_o body_n shall_v be_v spiritual_a &_o heavenly_a to_o wit_n in_o glory_n &_o not_o in_o substance_n but_o because_o they_o be_v set_v forth_o in_o these_o mystery_n not_o to_o our_o bodily_a sense_n &_o after_o a_o bodily_a manner_n for_o neither_o can_v our_o bodily_a sense_n 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lord_n supper_n 33._o question_n and_o what_o call_v thou_o wash_v away_o answer_n the_o forgiveness_n of_o sin_n in_o place_n whereof_o succede_v the_o obedience_n of_o christ_n and_o the_o abolish_n that_o be_v begin_v of_o the_o corruption_n of_o nature_n to_o which_o sanctification_n now_o begin_v in_o we_o be_v oppose_v 34._o question_n and_o what_o call_v thou_o nourish_v answer_n the_o growth_n as_o it_o be_v and_o increase_v of_o these_o 35._o question_n now_o there_o remain_v the_o third_o which_o thou_o do_v call_v the_o apply_v of_o these_o benefit_n answer_n so_o i_o call_v that_o same_o as_o it_o be_v a_o certain_a insinuation_n which_o be_v by_o the_o power_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n work_v in_o we_o but_o be_v signify_v by_o sacramental_a not_o vain_a and_o unprofitable_a rite_n to_o wit_n by_o the_o bodily_a wash_n through_o the_o put_n into_o the_o water_n and_o come_v out_o again_o and_o also_o as_o well_o by_o the_o bodily_a both_o eat_n of_o bread_n and_o drink_n 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unto_o we_o that_o same_o quicken_a power_n of_o he_o shall_v flow_v into_o us._n answer_n fie_o away_o i_o say_v with_o all_o those_o false_a and_o foolish_a trifle_n 63._o question_n but_o why_o do_v thou_o rather_o make_v mention_n of_o the_o flesh_n then_o of_o the_o godheade_n in_o this_o conjunction_n or_o knit_v together_o answer_n i_o do_v not_o this_o as_o though_o the_o god_n head_n do_v nothing_o here_o when_o as_o contrawise_o in_o very_a deed_n the_o very_a flesh_n of_o christ_n simple_o and_o consider_v in_o itself_o as_o it_o be_v flesh_n do_v not_o quicken_v we_o but_o because_o as_o the_o father_n very_o witty_o speak_v it_o be_v the_o flesh_n of_o the_o word_n but_o in_o this_o i_o follow_v christ_n the_o master_n express_o repeat_v the_o name_n of_o his_o flesh_n and_o blood_n in_o this_o mystery_n of_o our_o conjunction_n with_o he_o because_o we_o can_v be_v join_v with_o he_o but_o by_o reason_n of_o his_o human_a nature_n and_o in_o asmuch_o as_o he_o be_v our_o 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the_o same_o rock_n but_o what_o will_v they_o do_v with_o these_o word_n of_o saint_n augustine_n in_o his_o 45._o treatise_n upon_o john_n loe_o the_o sign_n change_v faith_n remain_v there_o christ_n be_v the_o rock_n to_o we_o christ_n be_v that_o same_o that_o be_v set_v forth_o upon_o the_o altar_n and_o if_o thou_o look_v upon_o the_o visible_a form_n it_o be_v another_o thing_n but_o if_o upon_o the_o sensible_a signification_n they_o drink_v the_o same_o spiritual_a drink_n and_o in_o the_o 102._o epistle_n some_o time_n the_o thing_n which_o signify_v take_v the_o name_n of_o that_o thing_n which_o it_o signify_v for_o so_o the_o rock_n be_v christ_n because_o it_o signify_v christ_n to_o conclude_v the_o same_o interprete_v the_o spiritual_a rock_n mention_v in_o the_o 77._o psalm_n not_o christ_n himself_o as_o they_o do_v but_o such_o a_o rock_n as_o shall_v signify_v some_o spiritual_a thing_n question_n therefore_o proceed_v on_o answer_n so_o to_o conclude_v that_o 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sanctify_v and_o to_o make_v a_o atonement_n for_o sin_n levit._fw-la 16._o 30._o when_o as_o it_o only_o belong_v unto_o god_n to_o forgive_v sin_n and_o to_o make_v clean_o so_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o gospel_n be_v say_v to_o bind_v and_o to_o lose_v matth._n 18._o 18._o and_o to_o forgive_v sin_n john_n 20._o 25._o yea_o also_o to_o save_v themselves_o &_o to_o save_v other_o 1._o tim._n 4._o 16._o of_o which_o matter_n if_o it_o please_v thou_o thou_o may_v see_v augustine_n in_o his_o book_n of_o question_n upon_o leviticus_fw-la chapter_n 84._o 82._o question_n be_v there_o yet_o remain_v any_o other_o kind_n of_o sacramental_a figure_n answer_n there_o remain_v the_o four_o quite_o contrary_a to_o that_o same_o three_o kind_n whereby_o it_o be_v bring_v to_o pass_v on_o the_o contrary_a that_o that_o which_o be_v proper_a unto_o the_o figne_n be_v draw_v unto_o the_o thing_n signify_v and_o hereof_o come_v that_o same_o inward_a circumcision_n or_o of_o the_o heart_n so_o the_o flesh_n or_o the_o body_n of_o the_o son_n of_o man_n be_v say_v to_o be_v eat_v and_o his_o blood_n to_o be_v drink_v which_o be_v bodily_a action_n can_v not_o be_v understand_v otherwise_o then_o improper_o of_o the_o thing_n signify_v that_o be_v to_o say_v of_o christ_n himself_o offer_v either_o in_o the_o simple_a word_n or_o in_o the_o sacrament_n lest_o as_o saint_n augustine_n very_o well_o say_v a_o foul_a and_o heinous_a thing_n to_o wit_n the_o savage_a and_o barbarous_a eat_n of_o man_n flesh_n seem_v to_o be_v command_v and_o hereof_o come_v these_o same_o usual_a manner_n of_o speech_n so_o often_o in_o the_o father_n wherein_o it_o be_v say_v that_o the_o body_n of_o our_o lord_n lie_v upon_o the_o altar_n yea_o also_o that_o it_o be_v see_v handle_v go_v into_o the_o mouth_n be_v make_v fall_v upon_o the_o ground_n be_v consume_v 83._o question_n therefore_o make_v thou_o it_o a_o metaphorical_a body_n and_o a_o metaphorical_a supper_n answer_n in_o deed_n such_o be_v the_o filthy_a slander_n of_o certain_a man_n which_o we_o will_v confute_v in_o their_o proper_a place_n for_o now_o i_o entreat_v general_o of_o the_o sacrament_n in_o mean_a time_n know_v this_o that_o we_o neither_o fain_v any_o other_o body_n to_o christ_n then_o that_o same_o true_a body_n give_v for_o we_o nor_o transform_v that_o same_o most_o holy_a action_n into_o those_o same_o monstrous_a chimeres_n but_o only_o we_o say_v this_o follow_v the_o proportion_n of_o faith_n that_o that_o same_o very_a partake_v of_o christ_n himself_o which_o be_v altogether_o of_o the_o mind_n and_o of_o faith_n for_o this_o be_v the_o meat_n of_o the_o mind_n &_o not_o of_o the_o belly_n be_v not_o proper_o but_o metaphorical_o declare_v by_o those_o same_o bodily_a action_n of_o eat_v and_o drink_v 84._o question_n then_o be_v it_o all_o one_o with_o thou_o to_o believe_v and_o spiritual_o to_o eat_v christ_n answer_n thou_o cause_v i_o yet_o again_o to_o stray_v from_o my_o purpose_n if_o thou_o take_v to_o believe_v for_o the_o very_a action_n of_o faith_n itself_o i_o consent_v unto_o thou_o but_o if_o thou_o take_v it_o for_o the_o very_a habit_n of_o faith_n than_o even_o like_a as_o thou_o do_v distinguish_v the_o tooth_n the_o instrument_n of_o eat_v from_o the_o eat_n itself_o so_o it_o must_v needs_o be_v that_o thou_o discern_v faith_n itself_o from_o that_o apprehension_n of_o christ_n through_o faith_n which_o be_v the_o spiritual_a eat_n question_n proceed_v on_o answer_n i_o have_v now_o finish_v those_o thing_n which_o belong_v unto_o those_o same_o sacramental_a form_z of_o speak_v aswell_o those_o that_o be_v proper_a as_o those_o that_o be_v figurative_a 85._o question_n but_o when_o thou_o shall_v say_v that_o the_o sacrament_n be_v add_v unto_o the_o simple_a word_n to_o the_o end_n the_o more_o plain_o to_o show_v forth_o the_o promise_n many_o man_n marvel_v that_o these_o figurative_a speech_n be_v use_v in_o the_o sacrament_n in_o 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