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A85545 A defence of Christian liberty to the Lords table; except in case of excommunication and suspension. Wherein many arguments, queres, suppositions, and objections are answered by plain texts, and consent of scriptures. As also some positions answered by way of a short conference which the author hath had with divers, both in citie and countrey. All which are profitable to inform to truth, and lawfull obedience to authoritie. / By John Graunt, who beareth witnesse to the faith. Published according to order. Graunt, John, of Bucklersbury. 1646 (1646) Wing G1591; Thomason E330_22; ESTC R200727 25,078 32

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which was shed for many for the remission of sins Now of that many he speaketh in that he saith I will drink it new with you in my Fathers Kingdom And in this distinction he might speak it to the twelve when Iudas was present For you may say as well Iudas was not amongst the twelve when he said to them Iohn 6. 70. Have not I chosen you twelve and one of you is a Devill In this distinction of election may our Saviour speak in the case of perfection Their fifth Objection I will smite the Shepheard and the sheep shall be scattered Mark 14. 27. And again I will lay down my life for my sheep Iohn 10 15 17. Now Iudas could not be included and therefore not present for hee was none of Christs sheep but a traytor against the Shepheard and the Flock also My defence to your fifth Objection This objection extends not to the question in hand for the Shepheard was smitten after the Institution and distribution of the Lords Supper And so also after Iudas left our Lord and his Apostles company and went privatly to effect and perfect his treacherous conspiracy And yet again in the Scripture phrase there are evill sheep unlost as well as good such as are lost and found in the Scripture sense And Iudas was amongst them and sent out with them when our Lord said Matth. 10. 16. Behold I send you forth as sheep in the midst of Wolves And the Prophet David knew well there was more bad then good men when he said 2 Sam. 24. 17. But these sheep what have they done Now while I was making my defence against all these former oppositions I received from an honoured friend of mine this double supposition following His first Supposition Friend I pray consider how the Apostle speaks of the Lords Supper 1 Cor. 10. 15 16 17. I speak as to you wise men judge you what I say The Cup of blessing which we blesse is it not the communion of the bloud of Christ The Bread which we break is it not the communion of the body of Christ For we being many are one bread and one body for wee are partakers of that one bread Now who are the wise but the regenerate Who hath communion in the body and bloud of Christ but the faithfull Who are the many memb●rs that are one body the many grains that make one loafe but the Saints And therefore doth not the Sacrament properly and peculiarly belong to the Saints Yea onely ordained for them I suppose My defence to your first Supposition Sir the answer lies in the Apostles words by you mentioned for to say For the cup of blessing which we blesse and the bread which wee breake is it not the communion of the body and bloud of Christ proves plainly there are two things considerable in the Sacrament the elements or signes bread and wine the substance or thing signified the body and bloud of Christ of both which the regenerate communicate but the unregenerate although acknowledging the common faith they of bread and wine the signes onely And this is plainly proved by the Apostle by the instance hee gives to the Corinthians 1 Cor. 10. 1 2 3 4 5. The multitude as well as the faithfull they passed through the sea they had equall benefit of the coole moist cloud in the heat of the day and of the light hot burning pillar in the dark cold night and sustained both with the same Manna Angels food And yet none did communicate of the spirituall substance the Rock and Truth but such as were spiritual and thereby could by faith eat Christs flesh and drink his bloud and all the regenerate and truly faithfull did so But with may of them saith the Apostle that is with the carnall impenitent provoking unbeleeving part God was not well pleased but overthrew them in the wildernesse notwithstanding their outward fellowship and communion with the faithfull in the outward externall shadowes And the Apostle by way of comparison seems to make the Church of Corinth and the Church of the Jews in the wildernesse to agree in the like participation with those that communicate as in the things communicated both for the quality of persons and distinction of ordinances And if it were not so as you would suppose then his exhortation were in vain Neither be yee Idolaters as some of them neither fornicators nor tempters nor murmurers c. And if faulty and unregenerate Christians ought not upon any terms to comunicate then the Apostle in Chap. 11. would have forbidden them communion whereas he uses onely admonition And therefore as for the inward and spirituall Christians the spirituall part of the sacrament is peculiar so the externall and common part is for such Christians as are but outward and common and ordained for them as for the Saints as before hath been shewed His second Supposition If unregenerate men come to communicate in the Sacrament they intrude and thrust themselves to that which God calls them not to and so therein doe that which they ought not and therefore it is sin to such to come for so much seems to be implied by the Apostle in saying They discern not the Lords body and so it proves to bee punishment instead of nourishment And it may be said to them as to the guest that bad not on the wedding Garment Friend how comest thou in hither And their intrusion to the Lords Table is like the false Apostles and Prophets thrusting themselves into all the administrations of the Gospel My defence to your second Supposition The first part of this Supposition being an inference of the former by consequence is answered already And whereas you say It is an intrusion in the unregenerate and so a sin in them to come to the Sacrament you must shew the inhibition for otherwise the text is plain Where there is no law there is no transgression Secondly you instance the uncloathed mans coming to the Feast in the Gospel I pray consider hee was not condemned for coming to the Feast but for being there without a wedding Garment for the feast is all the ordinances of God which Christ hath purchased and freely vouchsafed for all men to communicate in for their salvation the coming to the feast is the free liberty that all beleevers have in the enjoyment of these ordinances and to bee fed and clad with the blessed spirituall benefit thereof is to enjoy the blessing and salvation that comes by these means ordained of God for that end but to enjoy the administration thereof and not to be bettered by them is to be there where we might have been clad and yet continue naked fed and are yet starved And so it comes to passe that which is a savour of life to the one is a savour of death to the other the first heareth and obeyeth the second heareth and rejecteth In the next place I answer Whosoever taketh upon him to be a Steward of that which is
freedome for this is the effect of your practice which affirm in this governed church in which you are placed under authority you ought to have freedome of conscience to exercise your gifts to gather a people to your selves and so to make use of all the ordinances of God both for Doctrine and Discipline And that no power nor authority ought to question you for it because you ought to have freedome of conscience This is another conceit of humane invention Did you ever read of such an expression in the Scriptures so applied as to free a man from all lawfull obedience to authority the consequence of truth is sincerity but the consequence of error is iniquity For think you not that your freedome of conscience as you call it which doth acquit you from all obedience to lawful commands if you your selfe shall so judge of it is not your own wilfulnesse to disobey that authority that is over you a permanent ground for the like freedome for all in particular that are under you to discl●ime your authority upon the same terms you doe others See in a word how you by mistaking the word overthrow Gods ordinance of government Rom. 13. even that which himselfe is God of for he is the God of Gods Dan. 2. 47. the God of order 1 Cor. 14. 33. Now to make your absurdity more manifest observe a similitude make the whole Kingdome of England the great nationall church make the Parliament and assembly of Ministers the Ruling and Teaching Elders in this great church your selves neither of them but under this authority And therefore by the law of God and man ought to live obediently to all their lawfull ordinances You pretend by religious freedome you ought not to obey them but rather to follow your own conceivings Is not this your practice of disobeying your Superiours a perpetuall ground for disobedience in your inferiours For that inferiour who ever he be that saith none above him hath power to prescribe rules to him his own practice for ever frees all that are under him from all manner of obedience to him and so for ever to establish by this doctrine such dissenting and contending as that there is no such custom in the churches of God 1 Cor. 11. 16. for the rule of Gods church is the quite contrary as the Apostle testifieth Rom. 13. 7. Render therefore to all their dues tribute to whom tribute is due custome to whom custome fear to whom feare honour to whom honour It is true the Saints and children of God are free but that is in a spirituall respect by a spirituall birth The truth shall make you free John 8. 32. If the Sonne make you free you shall bee free indeed verse 36. but with the right knowledge of this freedome I find few professors are acquainted Their second Position When we have truly constituted our church by selecting 〈◊〉 a congregation then we shall enjoy the spirituall administration of Christs ordinances in their purity setting up Christ upon his throne to the happy enjoyment and accomplishment of all the prophesies and promises foretold of all by the Prophets and Apostles My defence to your second Position There are three things considerable in this Position also First what you mean by Ordinances Secondly their spirituall administration and purity And lastly what you mean by setting Christ up in his throne to the fulfilling of all the Prophesies and promises in the Scriptures And first for the term Ordinances are they not those that wee have in communion in our publick Assemblies prayer reading and expounding the Scriptures preaching and in communicating in baptisme and the Lords Supper Is not the word of God the same in publick congregations as amongst you the same in a common and the same in a speciall administration Is not prayer the same in both with the spirituall the sacrifice of a broken heart with the rest a presentation of persons and words Is not baptisme the same in the outward as in the inward consideration The Lords Supper the same in the corporall signes as in the spirituall grace that as the carnall Christian through the common faith eats the bread and drinks the wine so the spirituall Christian by justifying faith eats Christs flesh and drinks his bloud You confesse all this to bee true but you say the difference lies in the point of the purity of the ordinances the manner of administration and communion in them which is the second consideration in the Position And you say for want of the spirituall administration the authorized congregations have lost the purity of all Gods ordinances and thereby continue the abominable and unclean thing amongst them And you give three instances to prove this First that our Minister● are not truly called secondly say some of you we alter the ordinance of baptisme thirdly you all with one consent condemne us for admitting of mixt congregations To the first I answer Presbyters by the Parliament are ordained to examine approve and allow of mens gifts and for their spirituall gifts received of God to appoint and allow of them therefore to be Ministers according to the Apopostles rule 1 Tim. 3. 10 chap. 4. 14. against which there is no other externall rule to be shewed in the Scriptures And secondly whereas many of you say we alter the ordinance of baptisme it is more then you can prove by Scripture for although it be said Matth. 28. 19. Go yee therefore and teach all Nations baptizing them c. In your own understanding of that place it doth not say therefore as you say ye shall not baptize the infants of beleevers who you therein forbid to be brought to Christ contrary to the command of our Lord Matth. 19. 14. Suffer little children to come or to be brought unto me for so much the Text inferres and forbid them not to come unto me Which inhibition of yours is contrary also to Gods own ordinance and command Exod. 12. Gen. 17. which plainly commands that which you deny that children are to communicate if their parents were beleevers According to which ordinance of God the Apostles testifie to all the world Acts 2. The promise belongs to you and to your children and to all that are afarre off even to so many as the Lord our God shall call as if he should say whosoever God calls to beleeve the covenant belongs to them and to their infants as the covenant belonged to Abraham and to all strangers that should come to beleeve the truth to them and to their children also And this is the reason that we find it written and there are many examples of it in the Apostles times that when a man came to beleeve the truth the doctrine they taught them not onely they themselves but their housholds were baptized 1 Cor. 1. as the houshold of Stephanos and the rest And the Apostle resolves the question to the Church of Corinth saith he to this effect If one of the parents
second Argument the inference and consequence thereof is that the use of the Lords Supper is not for the Saints alone for although the Saints have the blisse and best use of the Sacrament yet not the onely use And as they have a speciall right as spiritual Christians by faith to eat Christs flesh and drink his bloud to their confirmation so the unregenerate elect and common Christians have a true right to the communication of the outward signes to their information and instruction amongst the faithful For as the Paschal Lamb was generally to be eaten by both sorts of beleevers Exod. 12. 43 44. Circumcise him saith the Text and then shall he eat thereof so baptize the Christian and let him examine himselfe touching the knowledge of the Lords Supper and so let him eat 1 Cor. 11. 25 26 27 28. And here take notice by the way that this examining a mans selfe is all one with the preparation to the Passeover for the true use of understanding the Lords Supper and discerning the Lords body in knowing the meaning of the signes is to lead us to repent of our sins and to repent is to eate no leavened bread for this is to put out the leaven out of our houses Exod. 12. 15. And the Apostles admonition to the Church of Corinth is in effect the same that Hezekiah praieth for that the people before they came to the Passeover might prepare their hearts to seek God and that the Lord would pardon them that were not cleansed according to the purification of the Sanctuary 2 Chron. 30. 19. For saith the Text vers. 18. a multitude of the people even many of Ephraim and Manasses Iss●ehar and Zebulon had not cleansed themselves yet did they eat the Passeover c. Observe how the Church of Corinth and the Church of the Jewes are paralleld and although many defective in both yet in neither any denied And this promotes the free mercy and goodnesse of God that the unregenerate are not restrained from no outward ordinance that might further their cōversion His fourth Argument That the Lords Supper doth commemorate and confirm is very cleare and evident from the Scriptures but that it should be a means of conversion that is dubious My defence to your fourth Argument That which with the Word doth commemorate Christs death that doth also signifie teach and shew forth or is a means to attain grace even so often as it is communicated with the word Luke 22. 19. 1 Cor. 11. 26. And this is a truth not dubious but perspicuous For as by the eye the cutward sight doth affect the heart within o● inwardly L●m 3 51. so doth the calling to mind or remembrance as David saith Psal. 77. 3. I remembred God saith he and what did it lead him to or teach him He gives us the answer himselfe And I was troubled And what was his trouble but godly sorrow and repentance And upon the sight of the bitter passion of our Lord which was the same death the Lords Supper holds forth to us it is said Luk. 23 48. And all the people which came together to that sight beholding the things that were done smote their breasts and returned Wherefore be satisfied of the converting operation of the Sacrament And the truth is you confesse it in all your Arguments in that you doe acknowledge it doth commemorate and call to mind I pray consider what S. Paul writes to Timothy 1 Tim. 4. 6. If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things thou shalt be a good Minister of Jesus Christ So then to call to mind or to put men in remembrance of the truth is a part of the ministery of the Gospel and that the participation of the Sacrament doth both our Lord and his servant testifies Luke 22. 1 Cor. 11. The more fuller clearing hereof I refer to my defence against the two Ministers five Quaeres hereafter mentioned The fifth Argument That the Word and Works of God are a means to beget grace the Scriptures plentifully affirm and they need no exposition at all for they speak out the glory of him that made them the wisdome bounty and goodnesse of God which leadeth to repentance but the Sacrament as the Bow in the clouds cannot without the exposition of Scriptures and therefore not teaching My defence to your fifth Argument You say God hath made his works as his word the outward means to beget grace and they need no exposition for they are made of God apparent to all Psal. 97. 6. but you say so is not the Sacrament Nor say I the written Scriptures manifested to them that have them not but as the Rain-bow in the clouds ordained by the word of God doth teach to the eye Gods faithfulnesse in his promise and covenant Gen. 9. 13. even so doe the Sacraments which are likewise ordained by the same word inform the heart by the eye through seeing Christs death visibly represented by the elements so often as by the word they are consecrated and by beleevers communicated and doe thereby teach set forth and declare Gods faithfulnesse in his promise and covenant made with mankind in and through the death of Christ And Bread and Wine sacramentally are to none so but to such as beleeve the Scriptures His sixth Argument The Word and Works which are outward means to beget grace are made of God obvious to all men to see and read to the end they may bee won to repentance but the Sacrament may not be used to all the world but onely by such as beleeve Jesus Christ manifested which is a further ground to me that it begets not grace but commemorates and confirms onely My defence to his sixth Argument This Argument is of the same nature with your former and therefore one answer may serve for both for if the bounty and goodnesse of God be made known to Christians by the Lords Supper then by your own Argument they teach Christians to grace as the works of God the whole creation manifesting Gods bounty and goodnesse who thereby win or lead men to repentance even that part of mankinde that have not the Scriptures which shall be more cleared hereafter Now after I had received these Arguments from a friend there were sent me from two Ministers of my acquaintance these five Queres following The first Quere Whether to teach grace and confirme grace be two distinct things or no My defence to the first Quere In my defence I premise that the visible Sacrament cannot bee without the audible word and so I say that the effect of both are distinct in teaching to attain grace and the confirming and strenthening the grace already wrought The second Quere If they be two distinct things whether then can the Sacrament of the Lords Supper reach so as to work a change in the affections or not My defence to your second Quere Whatsoever God hath made teaching that by his blessing may effect grace to whom it teacheth it
for the Word and Covenant of life is manifested and declared by preaching Tit. 1. 3. Now the way of preaching that was committed to S. Paul was the Scriptures yet he himself proves to the Romans that the same covenant of life and word of grace which he taught by the Scriptures is taught to the Gentiles which have not the Scriptures by the creatures as Rom. 10. 8. compared with v. 18 19 20 21. and Psal. 19. which is confest and acknowledged before in my opposites arguments but because this is beyond the question in hand which is to cleare the teaching use of the Sacraments by Scriptures I will therefore here wave the point of the creatures teaching without the Scriptures and prove it clearly by arguments drawn from the Scriptures that the Lord Supper hath a teaching operation for the strengthening or confirming use no man questions My first Argument Whatsoever doth declare or shew forth Christ to a Christian doth teach Christ But the Supper of the Lord doth declare and shew forth his death from the tree of his ignominy to the throne of his glory Therefore the Supper of the Lord declareth and teacheth Christ so often as it is communicated even untill his second coming And ths Argument I thus prove 1 Cor. 11. 26. For as often saith the Apostle as yee eat this Bread and drink this Cup yee doe show the Lords death till he come Agreeing to which is that of the Prophet when he spake to King Darius I will shew thee the truth said he Did not he therein declare and teach to him the truth So also our Lord signifying and shewing the truth to the Apostle John Revel. 1. 1. what was it but preaching and manifesting the truth to him My second Argument Whatsoever is ordained of Christ to commemorate call to mind or keep in remembrance himselfe or his death that preaches Christ and the benefit of his death But the communicating in the signes of the Lords body and bloud calls him to mind and keeps his death in remembrance to Christians Therefore the celebration of the Lords Supper teacheth or preacheth the benefit of his death And this Argument our Lord himselfe proveth whose testimony is beyond all Luke 22. 19 20. This is my Body which was given for you doe this in remembrance of me This Cup is the new Testament in my bloud which was shed for you I beseech you mark two things in these few words for the proving the Argument that is first that the Lords Supper the participation of the Elements they being set apart by blessing according to our Lords example and the Apostles practice the doing thereof is a remembrance of Christs death And secondly that thereby is made known and taught the Covenant of life and salvation in these words This Cup is the new Testament in my bloud then which nothing can be thought of to prove clearer the teaching use of the Sacrament And that whatsoever calleth to remembrance the truth preacheth the truth is plain and apparent For Peters putting the Saints alwayes in remembrance of the truth thereby preached unto them the truth 2 Pet. 1. 12 13 14 15. Your third Quere Whether the act of Christ in admitting of Judas be exemplary My defence to your third Quere If the Lord did admit of wicked Judas unto the Apostleship and so to the participation of Baptisme the Word Prayer and to the breaking of bread as hereafter shall bee particularly proved then such Ministers that teach that all unregenerate men are to bee kept from the Sacrament assume that to themselves which neither Gods law nor mans law gives them For the exception in the law of God is the case of excommunication the exception in mans ordinance is ignorance and scandall Your fourth Quere Whether there be like reasons of the Sacrament and the Passeover If there be the like reason then it followes not that the Lord did approve of every one that came to the Passeover 2 Chron. 30. they were to prepare themselves before they came My defence to your fourth Quere You both forget your selves to ask me a reason of Gods ordinances for to give a reason of them is peculiar to God alone that made them But this I say that there is the same use and meaning of the Lords Supper as of the Passeover in the common fellowship of all beleevers that is Christ typified and signified by both Christs death shewed forth and called to remembrance by both the beleevers informed to grace and confirmed in grace by both and the spiritual and truly faithful eat Christs flesh and drink his bloud by both they being both sacramentall for that purpose And as under the law they were to put away the leaven out of their houses and prepare and sanctifie themselves so under the Gospel Christians are to examine themselves repent c. For to keep the Feast and holy day the Apostle speaks of 1 Cor. 5. 8. is to keep it with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth as I have briefly declared in my Admonition in Christians liberty to the Lords Table p. 18. Your fifth Quere Whether can a naturall man or a man indued with the common gifts of the Spirit so try examine and judge himselfe as to come worthily as the Apostle 1 Cor. 11. 28. doth drive at My defence to your fifth Quere I answer An inward or spirituall Christian as an inward and an outward common Christian as an outward Christian may either of them discerne the Lords body to participate worthily or profitably according to their different gifts received the high way stony and thorny grounds may discern the Lords body and all the elect Christians unregenerate by the visible signes thereof in the Sacrament that therein Christ Jesus is manifested giving himselfe to death for mankind and that he is the bread of life declared and preached first by the words of consecration and prayer with admonitions then made by the Minister And secondly by seeing the wine powred out the resemblance of the shedding his bloud and then seeing the bread broken the resemblance of his death and passion with the consideration of all other circumstances the violence the Grape suffers in the Wine-presse and the cruelty offered to the Corn both in the Mill and in the insufferable hot Oven And as thus the eye affects the heart so doth the sweet comfortable refreshing nourishing delectable relishing taste also which are all evident sensible in-lets to the soule of the mercy and goodnesse of God And because the Christian hath received no other but common gifts it is but information to him to the speciall grace but the good ground the spiri●uall Christian his communion is sustentation and confirmation in grace to eternall life according to his speciall faith and grace received of God he spiritually eats Christs flesh and drinks his bloud and is hereby more and more inoculated and rooted in the true Vine Jesus Christ And in this differing consideration both may