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A65842	A brief discovery of the dangerous principles of John Horne (a priest in Lin) and Thomas Moore junior both teachers of the people called Mooreians or Manifestarians, (and called by some free-willers or independants.) In answer to their book called A brief discovery of the people called Quakers, and a warning to all people to beware of them and of their dangerous principles, &c. Which book is a false narrative of two disputes, the one which they had with John Whitehead at Gedney in Lincoln-shire, and the other with Geo. Whitehead and Geo. Fox the younger, at Lin in Norfolke, both in the seventh moneth, 1659. Also priest Horns testimony against his brethren the priests. This is to go amonst the professors in England in discovery of the truth; ... By the truth which is in George Whitehead. John Whitehead. George Fox the younger.	Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723.; Whitehead, John, 1630-1696. aut; Fox, George, d. 1661. aut	1659 (1659)	Wing W1896; ESTC R220960	30,510	44

if they believe that there was no blood left in Christs body when he was crucified And when T M. had pleaded for a body of flesh and bones in the Heavens he did not own that Christs body there is a carnal body see how flatly therein he contradicted his own words and the Priests doctrine for Priest Higginson and others affirmed that Christ is in Heaven with a carnal body but his body i● a Mistery which these men of Babylon can never know who are thus in confusion for Christs body is onely known with that by which God is seen and known who is not the Authour of their confusion but of peace And in page 12. T M. and J. H. speak as that Job said Behold God is great we know him not and to prove it bring Job 36 26. which is a sad mistake against Job for it was Elihu that spoke these words who was one of them that spoke against Joh Joh 35. 2 and 26. 1. for Job knew God when they that came against him did not but this their Accusation against Job is even like John Horns pleading for sin in a Letter to Eliz. Underwood for which he brought Eliphaz his words who was one of them that came against Job and sooke not the thing of God that was right where he said in Job 4. 1● and 15. 14 15. Behold he put no trust in his servants and his Angels he charged with folly which were none of Jobs words but his against whom the wrath of God was kindled Job 42. 7. and in like manner hath John Horn often belyed the servants of the Lord both in his Book and ●a●se Letters which he sent abroad in the Countrey to several that were brought to see his deceit and therefore are turned from him and many more of his lyes in several of his Letters against us I could produce i. occasioned to it In page 12. J. Horn and T. Moor say That it is rather a vertue to which we are advised not to be wise or think or guess above what is written but presently they begin to guess that which is not written and so confound themselves in their saying That there are indeed very probable arguments used to prove that that precious blood was reunited again with the body of Christ in the Resurrection But how shall any that are ignorant believe them or be instructed with their confusion For again they have to mend this their matter confuted these they call very probable arguments to prove that Christs blood was reunited again with the body of Christ for in contradiction to this in their Post-script they say But these being but probabilities at most and on the other side the Scriptures speaking of Christs Resurrection mentioning only that which was buried without any mention of his blood reunited So from hence we clearly see that J. Horn and some of his Company have had much reasoning about the blood of Christ and are in themselves confounded about it one while saying that there are very probable arguments to prove that it was reunited again with the body of Christ another while not owning that it was reunited again and with that they conclude See what blind guides these men are we might have received as good an answer from School-boyes about the blood of Christ as they might have guessed at it as J. Horn and T. Moor hath done and have told us that it is either in the body of Christ or not in it But mark how again they have guessed about it They say in page 12. Again that which was blood before may be in the changed state turned into pure life and spirit the thing or substance remaining Answ. Here again they have guessed and thought above that which is written and how can blood be turned into spirits and the substance of it remaining this is a meer dream and one of John Hornes divinations and it contradicts Moores words for he said that the life of Christ is not in his blood Again if the blood that Christ shed be turned into pure spirits and life what is his body of flesh and bones turned into or what reason is there that his blood should be altered more then his flesh and bones but all this confusion and dirty stuff of John Hornes and Thomas Moores is seen thorow and made manifest with the true light in which they that walk shall feel the blood of Christ which cleanseth from all sin and know that the spirit the water and blood which bear record in the earth agree in one and the blood is the life which is in Christ whose body is not a body without the blood in it as these dreamars aforesaid imagines and as the Prophet said we witness that by the blood of the Covenant the prisoners are sent out of the pit which can hold no water Again in pag. 14. We are falsly accused with denying what the Scripture asserts about the body of Christ and the Resurrection of mens bodies and about the knowledge of Christ Answ. Here we see plainly that this John Horne and Thomas Moore do love lying rather then to speak righteousness for we own what the Scripture asserts about the body of Christ and the Resurrection but deny their imaginations and here again I shall bring their own words to confute them in pag. 5. they have confessed that we said of Christs body that the same body that suffered was glorified at Gods right hand in Heaven which might have stopt their mouths from accusing us as they did and as for our not asserting that the same earthly bodies of men shall rise again they have in their post-script confessed that the raised body in the resurrection shall not be flesh and blood to which I say then not that body which is sown or buried for that is a body of flesh and blood Again touching Christs appearance after his resurrection when he shewed his Disciples his hands and his feet we do not believe that his body then had no blood in it for he then did eat before them of the broiled fish and honny comb which they gave him which is nourishment to both flesh and blood Luke 24. 41. 42. and the blood is the life of that which hath need of such outward nourishment yea the life of all flesh is the blood Gen. 9. 4. 5. Levit. 17. 14. but as Christ is Ascended into his Fathers glory in Heaven he is in a further state for he hath not need now of such outward nourishment as broiled fish or a hony comb for he is in the same glory which he had with the Father before the world began and as for the Saints also their bodies in the resurrection shall as far exceed these our earthen bodies in glory as the glory of the Sun Moon and Stars do exceed the glory of Birds Beasts and Fishes but the mystery of these things is for ever sealed as in Parables from such blind guides as these aforesaid who have long abused the

people are overcome and led captive by the Quakers and say John Horn Thomas Moore It s through their own carelesness and formality or also through their Teachers they are not so instructed as to be able to examine and discern them Through their carelesness and weakness therethrough in their understanding of the things of God and conceiting themselves to know and be able to judge and discern of spirits they neglect the helpfulness and gifts of brethren as also the advice of their Teachers and instructors that have the oversight of them and spoken to them the Word of the Lord Answ. Oh be ashamed to see what a bad crop is brought forth what have you been Teachers so long and taking peoples mony for this that notwithstanding they have owned you and your Doctrine and followed you so long that yet they should bring forth no better fruits then these as carelesness and formality and conceitedness and neglect and weakness in understanding the things of God ye have sown but to the fleshly part and that 's the cause you have such a corrupt crop And now we see your Kingdom is near falling who are accusing your fellow Teachers for not instructing the people so as to be able to examine and discern us and the people are led captive already who brings forth such bad fruits as these and had you spoken the Word of the Lord to them and they had believed it surely they would have brought forth better fruits but because you have but stoln from your neighbours much of what you have spoke and added your own imaginations thereto and hath run but the Lord hath not sent you that is the cause you have not profited the people though you have believed what you have spoke and have contended much for your Doctrine yet ye receiving it not from the Lord it was without life and power and so was not effectual to the people John Horn Thomas Moore Oh that all both Ministers and people would yet be awakened to search and try our wayes and to make straight steps to our goings Answ. Yes ye had need to be awakned indeed for it is manifest that ye both Teachers and people have been asleep in the night of thick darkness and you have brought forth night works neglecting Christ the salvation of God and abusing his tru●h taking no pleasure therein but rather in slothfulness formality covetousness pride and vanity in apparrel and many other things and Teachers not instructing people so as they might be able to examine and discern such as come unto them Ye sluggish Shepherds who are yet to be awakened what have you taken peoples mony and goods for all this time was it for your sleeping and dreaming awake awake ye sluggards and own the light of Christ which he hath enlightned you withal and that will shew you your dreaming and the deeds of the night and that will teach you to make straight steps to your goings and to search and try your wayes John Horn Thomas Moore Look to your selves whosoever transgresseth and abideth not in the Doctrine of Christ hath not God he that abideth in the Doctrine of Christ hath both the Father and the Son Answ. Then it is manifest that you Thomas Moore and John Horn have not God and out of your own mouths ye shall be Judged for in the 20. pag. of your Book you speak of the heavy Judgement of God that he hath ordered to you to punish you for your neglect of Christ the Salvation of God and the truth of him so long abused by you now it is plain to any that have any true understanding that such as neglect Christ the Salvation of God and abuse his truth that they transgresse and abide not in the Doctrine of Christ and this you have confessed your selves to be guilty of and now your blindness and folly and confusion and wickedness is discovered by the spirit and wisdom of God which abideth in us who abide in the Doctrine of Christ and have both the Father and the Son Many more of your lies and slanders and confusion we could shew you in your Book but that they are not worth the mentioning And think not with your selves that because we reckon not up the rest of your accusations and railing against us that therefore we consent to them as truth for we know that the Lord God will judge and punish you for your perverting the truth and your railing against us and slandering and belying us called Quakers as you have done both in your Book and in many Papers of John Hornes that were posted up against us in Lin and this know that the Lord God of power hath by his mighty power and wisdom armed us to make War against you and to manifest your deceits who are found to be forgers of lyes and deceivers and in enmity against the living truth of God and the longer you proceed therein against us and the truth witnessed by us the more will you be confounded and your folly made manifest that so the honest hearted will begin to loath you and you had better have put your mouths in the dust and been silent then to have blasphemed against the truth of God and against his people as you have done leave your hypocrisie and deceit wherewith you blind the people and feed them no longer with your dreams lyes and stoln dead words least the Lord cut you off in your iniquity for a time of withering is already come upon you And as for you who are the Hearers of the said John Horn and Thomas Moor our Souls pitty you knowing you are under a vail of thick darkness and bondage as we can no otherwise conclude seeing your leaders are tryed and found so much in ignorance and confusion and we wish rather then you would remain under their darkness and deceits that you would come back to the witness of God which hath in many of you been often moving but often hath been quenched through yielding to the sleights and deceits of men and striving to get more into knowledge then into the life and power and now you are but feeding death and seeking the living among the dead while ye go to them for help who are out of the power of God in their own imaginations wherein they are confounded and if ever you come to the Fathers House and there to find the spiritual nourishment you must first return to the light of the Lord in you which you have transgressed and grieved when often it hath appeared against your ungodliness And we would not have you think much against us because we have here dealt plainly by your Teachers in discovering them for we were first occasioned to give forth this because of their false railing book against us or else we had not thus appeared in publick against them and compare this and their book together and you may soon see if you read them sincerely how deservedly we have dealt by them more then they have by us for we sent Queries to John Horn and Thomas Moor in manuscript for them to answer not expecting they would have wronged us as they have done in Print And therefore if they in like manner do again proceed against us in Print we purpose in the Lord further to have their deceits discovered publickly that the truth which is professed and dearly owned by us may be cleared and its enemies have the fruits of their own doings Post-script AND seeing that ye called Moorians hold forth That flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God yet flesh and bones may we ask you these Questions If Elijahs flesh and bones could enter into Gods Kingdom when he was taken up and if his blood could not then when and where and how and by whom was his blood taken and separated from his flesh and bones And what is become of his blood And what is it that hinders the blood that it may not enter into Gods Kingdom as well as the flesh and bones which ye say may Is the transgression of the blood greater then the transgression of the flesh and bones And shall the flesh and bones be redeemed and delivered from corruption and shall not the blood What is the Cause For although the Lord doth what he please yet doth he do any thing without a Cause And whether do you own that Doctrine that when Christ appeared amongst the Disciples after his Resurrection when the doors were shut John 20. 19. that then his body being spiritualized it glided in at the key-hole of the door Which doctrine Thomas Moor sen hath formerly preached as some hath affirmed who heard him And where do the Scriptures say That flesh and bones may in herit the Kingdom of God And where you John Horn and Thomas Moor in page 16. say That Sathan doubtless may reprove of some sins and press to some duties Now have you not here shewn your selves to be Ministers of Sathan and not of Christ And we ask you what duties or any things that are duties doth Sathan press men to Answer directly or let shame cover you which at length will come upon you for your deceits THE END