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A09108 A revievv of ten publike disputations or conferences held vvithin the compasse of foure yeares, vnder K. Edward & Qu. Mary, concerning some principall points in religion, especially of the sacrament & sacrifice of the altar. VVherby, may appeare vpon how vveake groundes both catholike religion vvas changed in England; as also the fore-recounted Foxian Martyrs did build their new opinions, and offer themselues to the fire for the same, vvhich vvas chiefly vpon the creditt of the said disputations. By N.D.; Review of ten publike disputations. Parsons, Robert, 1546-1610. 1604 (1604) STC 19414; ESTC S105135 194,517 376

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util●t_fw-la paenit_fw-la c._n 1._o lib._n 2._o contra_fw-la advers._n leg_n &_o proph_n c._n 9_o fe_o fe_o without_o all_o quantity_n ri_fw-it ri_fw-it not_o without_o all_o quantity_n ●_o fox_n pa●_n 1327._o a_o comical_a divise_n of_o john_n fox_n fox_n ibid._n dam_fw-ge ri_fw-it ri_fw-it false_a &_o foolish_a i_o i_fw-mi ri_fw-it ri_fw-it false_a nor_o be_v these_o proper_o quality_n ●_o ●_o su●ra_o m●●se_a decembri_n fe_o fe_o it_o be_v deny_v ●i_fw-it ●i_fw-it and_o the_o like_a follow_v of_o the_o real_a presence_n without_o transubstantiation_n son_n ca_n ca_n true_a fruitful_o ●es_n ●es_n fruinteful_o they_o h●ue_v not_o tres_fw-la 1._o cor._n 12._o cypr._n sor●●_n de_fw-fr lapsis_fw-la aug_n ●_o count_n fulgent_n donatist_n cap_n 6._o lib._n 2._o cont_n pet●lian_n cap_n 11._o &_o in_o psalm_n 10._o &_o serm_n 11_o de_fw-fr verbis_fw-la domini_fw-la &_o 1._o de_fw-fr adulter_fw-la con●●g_a c._n 17._o &_o tra_v 50._o in_o joan._n aug._n l_o 2d_o de_fw-fr cu●t_v des_fw-fr cap._n 31._o ican_n 6._o 6._o non_fw-fr sacrament_n tenus_fw-la matth._n 20._o math._n ibid._n box_n pag._n 1466._o ●a_n ●●_o ●●_o bornwell_n see_v this_o argument_n urge_v by_o causton_n higb_v and_o other_o foxian_a martyr_n pag._n 1400._o etc._n etc._n car_n do_v joan._n 20._o joan._n 16._o 7._o fox_n pag._n 11●1_n 11●1_n me●s●_n decem●r_n first_o objection_n fox_n pag._n 1400._o zuingl_n l._n da_o ver●_n &_o fall_v religcap_n de_fw-fr euchar_n the_o au●swere_v aug._n &_o cyril_n in_o joan._n joan._n 6._o 6._o lib._n 3._o in_o ●p_n ad_fw-la rom._n cap●_n ●_z ●_z serm._n de_fw-fr caena_n dom._n dom._n on●●es_fw-fr on●●es_fw-fr ●●hunc_fw-la ●●hunc_fw-la locum_fw-la 6._o loan_n m._n guest_n argument_n against_o the_o real_a presence_n fox_n pag._n 1258._o col_fw-fr 2._o num_fw-la 80._o g●n_n 2._o d._n perne_n fox_n pa●_n 1261._o col_fw-fr 1._o num_fw-la 8._o guest_n second_o argument_n fox_n pag._n 1259._o lib._n primo_fw-la generate_v &_o lib._n 3._o phys._n pilkinton●_n second_o argument_n pilkintons_n three_o argument_n pilkintons_n four_o argument_n joan._n 12._o joan._n 17._o m._n philip_n his_o argument_n fox_n pag._n 1283._o matth._n 11._o jean_n 12._o aug._n tract_n 50._o in_o loan_n tract_n 70_o in_o lea●o_v aug._n ibid._n pag._n 1283._o in_o margin_n fox_n pag._n 12._o 4._o ●l_o 2._o num_fw-la 10._o phil●otts_n first_o argument_n fox_n pag._n 1287._o &_o 1288._o the_o answer_v to_o m._n cheneyes_n argument_n about_o mitrition_n &_o generation_n certain_a place_n of_o father_n explain_v fox_n pag._n 1250._o col_fw-fr 2._o tert._n lib._n 4_o cont_n martion_n c._n 40._o magd._n c●nt_fw-la 2._o cap._n 4._o old_a hetetike_n have_v frame_v some_o particular_a heresy_n out_o of_o the_o father_n by_o their_o misunderstandinge_v their_o meaning_n ambr._n l._n 4._o de_fw-fr sacra●●_n cap._n 4._o s._n ambrose_n expound_v himself_o against_o the_o protestant_n aug._n tract_n 25._o in_o joan._n the_o conclusion_n of_o this_o chapter_n the_o miserable_a case_n of_o sectarye_n with_o out_o any_o sure_a ground_n to_o icane_n unto_o disputation_n in_o the_o convocation_n house_n fox_n pag._n 1287._o col_fw-fr 2._o num_fw-la 30._o philpott_n first_o point_n to_o be_v observe_v the_o second_o point_n to_o be_v observe_v the_o three_o point_n considerable_a the_o 4._o point_n of_o note_n d._n gly●●e_v his_o first_o discourse_n joan._n 6._o ibidem_fw-la joan._n 1._o the_o jew_v equal_a to_o we_o by_o the_o sacramentary_a doctrine_n joan._n 6._o fox_n pag._n 1253._o adoration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n aug_n in_o psalm_n 98._o chrysost._n hom_n 60._o ad_fw-la pop_n antioch_n psalm_n 9●_n s._n ambrose_n and_o s._n austen_n handsome_o shift_v of_o d._n glyns_n reply_n fox_n pag._n 1254._o a_o strange_a shiftinge_n of_o the_o authoritye_n of_o father_n fox_n pa●_n 1●54_n col_fw-fr ●_o num_fw-la 3._o fox_n pag._n 1254._o s._n chrysostome_n shift_v of_o matth._n 11._o how_o s._n john_n baptist_n be_v elyas_n joan._n 1._o langdale_n dispute_v fox_n pag._n 1256._o col_fw-fr 1._o num_fw-la 43._o fox_n ibid._n m._n sedgewicke_n his_o disputation_n m._n ridley_n his_o own_o contradiction_n fox_n ibid._n m._n yonges_n disputation_n the_o confutation_n of_o ●_o after_o ridi●yes_n evasion_n about_o saint_n cyprian_n fox_n pag._n 1300._o fox_n pag._n 1326._o matth._n 2d_o marc_n 14._o luc._n 22._o fox_n pag._n 1_o 302._o col_fw-fr 1._o num_fw-la 70._o ●_o chadsoys_n first_o argument_n sup._n cap._n 3._o the_o second_o argument_n fox_n pag._n 1302._o aug_n 1._o ●●_o unitat_fw-la ecil_n cap._n 10._o 3._o argument_n chrysost._n hom_n 61._o ad_fw-la pop._n anti●ch_n fox_n pag._n 1303_o col_fw-fr 2._o num_fw-la 1._o 4._o argument_n or_o reply_n in_o psal._n 50._o chrysost._n hom_n 38._o in_o matth._n fox_n pag._n 1303._o chrysost._n hom_n 29._o in_o 2._o cor._n 13._o fox_n pag._n 1233._o col_fw-fr 1._o 〈◊〉_d 74._o 5._o argument_n chrysost._n hom_n 34._o d._n weston_n do_v urge_n eager_o urgo_fw-la hec_fw-la urgo_fw-la h●c_fw-la fox_n pag._n 1233._o 6._o argument_n d._n chadsey_n tertull._n l._n the_o restrict_a carne●_n c._n 8._o cranmers_n shift_v of_o tertulli●●_n tert._n ibid._n fox_n pag._n 2305._o 7._o argument_n out_o of_o s._n hilary_n d._n tressa●_n jo●n_n 6._o fox_n pag._n 1306._o hilar._n l._n 8._o do_v trunt_fw-la bucer_n l._n count_n abrincensem_fw-la fox_n pag._n 1306._o hilar._n ibid._n fox_n ibid._n d._n yonge_n dispute_v fox_n pag._n 1307._o col_fw-fr 2._o num_fw-la 30._o fox_n angry_a with_o a_o syllogism_n amb._n the_o e●_n qui_fw-la initiantur_fw-la ambr._n l._n 4._o de_fw-fr sacram._n cap._n 4._o s._n ambrose_n most_o clear_o against_o cranmer_n and_o f●x_n s._n ambrose_n correct_v by_o fox_n how_o cranmer_n shift_v of_o saint_n ambrose_n fox_n pag._n 1308_o col_fw-fr 1._o num_fw-la 7●_n ambr._n l._n 4._o de_fw-fr sacram._n cap._n 5._o ambr._n l._n 6._o de_fw-fr sacram._n cap._n 1._o the_o testimony_n of_o s._n justine_n examine_v justin._n apol._n 2._o iren._n lib._n 5._o cap._n 2._o cont_n haeres_fw-la diverse_a corruption_n object_v to_o cranmer_n fox_n pag._n