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A49714 A relation of the conference between William Laud, late Lord Arch-bishop of Canterbury, and Mr. Fisher the Jesuite by the command of King James, of ever-blessed memory : with an answer to such exceptions as A.C. takes against it. Laud, William, 1573-1645.; Fisher, John, 1569-1641. 1673 (1673) Wing L594; ESTC R3539 402,023 294

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again_o in_o the_o second_o prayer_n or_o thanksgiving_n after_o consecration_n thus_o we_o give_v thou_o thanks_o for_o that_o thou_o do_v vouchsafe_v to_o feed_v we_o which_o have_v due_o receive_v these_o holy_a mystery_n with_o the_o spiritual_a food_n of_o the_o most_o precious_a body_n and_o blood_n of_o thy_o son_n our_o saviour_n jesus_n christ_n etc._n etc._n etc._n jo._n fox_n martyrolog_n tom._n 2._o london_n 1597._o p._n 943._o 943._o fox_n ibid._n ibid._n cranmer_n apud_fw-la fox_n ibid._n p._n 1301._o 1301._o i_o say_v corporalitèr_fw-la corporal_o for_o so_o bellarmine_n have_v it_o express_o quod_fw-la autem_fw-la corporalitèr_fw-la &_o propriè_fw-la s●●●atur_fw-la sanguis_fw-la &_o caro_fw-la etc._n etc._n prob●●i_fw-la potest_fw-la omnibus_fw-la argumentis_fw-la etc._n etc._n bell._n l._n 1._o de_fw-fr eucharistic_n 12._o §_o sed_fw-la tota_fw-la and_o i_o must_v be_v bold_a to_o tell_v you_o more_o than_o that_o this_o be_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o ch._n of_o rome_n for_o i_o must_v tell_v you_o too_o that_o bellarm._n here_o contradict_v himself_o for_o he_o that_o tell_v we_o here_o that_o it_o can_v be_v prove_v by_o many_o argument_n that_o we_o receive_v the_o flesh_n and_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o eucharist_n corporalitèr_n say_v as_o express_o before_o have_v he_o remember_v it_o that_o though_o christ_n be_v in_o this_o bless_a sacrament_n verè_fw-la &_o realiter_fw-la yet_o faith_n he_o non_fw-la dicemus_fw-la corporaliter_fw-la i._n e._n co_fw-la modo_fw-la quo_fw-la s●d_fw-la naturâ_fw-la existunt_fw-la corpora_fw-la etc._n etc._n bell._n l._n 1._o de_fw-fr euchar._n c._n 2._o §_o tertia_fw-la regula_n so_o bell._n here_o be_v in_o a_o notorious_a contradiction_n or_o else_o it_o will_v follow_v plain_o out_o of_o he_o that_o christ_n in_o the_o sacrament_n be_v existent_a one_o way_n &_o receive_v another_o which_o be_v a_o gross_a absurdity_n and_o that_o corporaliter_fw-la be_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o ch._n of_o rome_n &_o mean_v by_o transubstantiation_n be_v far_a plain_n in_o the_o book_n call_v the_o institution_n of_o a_o christian_a man_n set_v forth_o by_o the_o bishop_n in_o convocation_n in_o h._n 8_n time_n a_o 1534._o c._n of_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o altar_n the_o word_n be_v under_o the_o form_n &_o figure_n of_o bread_n &_o wine_n the_o very_a body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n be_v corporal_o real_o etc._n etc._n exhibit_v and_o receive_v etc._n etc._n and_o aqui●as_v express_o thus_o quia_fw-la tamen_fw-la substantia_fw-la corporis_fw-la christi_fw-la realiter_fw-la non_fw-la dividitur_fw-la à_fw-la sua_fw-la quantitate_fw-la dimensiva_fw-la &_o ab_fw-la aliis_fw-la accidentibus_fw-la ind●_n est_fw-la quòd_fw-la ex_fw-la vi_fw-la realis_fw-la concomitantiae_fw-la est_fw-la in_o sacramento_n tot●_n quantitas_fw-la dimensiva_fw-la corpori●_n christi_fw-la &_o omne_fw-la accidentia_fw-la ejus_fw-la tho._n p._n 3._o q._n 76._o ar._n 4._o c._n c._n apud_fw-la fox_n ibid._n p._n 1598._o 1598._o apud_fw-la fox_n ibid._n 1703._o 1703._o tantùm_fw-la de_fw-la modo_fw-la quaestiö_o est_fw-la etc._n etc._n et_fw-la ●acessat_fw-la calum●ia_fw-la auferri_fw-la christum_fw-la à_fw-la coenâ_fw-la suâ_fw-la etc._n etc._n calv._n l._n 4._o inst._n c._n 17._o §_o 31._o veritatem_fw-la dei_fw-la in_o quâ_fw-la acquiescere_fw-la tutò_fw-la licet_fw-la sine_fw-la controversia_fw-la amplectar_fw-la pronunciat_fw-la ille_fw-la carnem_fw-la svam_fw-la esse_fw-la animae_fw-la meae_fw-la cibum_fw-la sanguinem_fw-la esse_fw-la potum_fw-la talibus_fw-la alimentis_fw-la animam_fw-la illi_fw-la meam_fw-la pascendam_fw-la o●●●●o_fw-la in_o s._n coena_fw-la jubet_fw-la i_o sub_fw-la symbolis_fw-la panis_n &_o vini_n corpus_n &_o sanguinem_fw-la suum_fw-la sumere_fw-la manducare_fw-la &_o bi●ere_fw-la nihil_fw-la dubito_fw-la quin_fw-la &_o ipse_fw-la verè_fw-la porrigat_fw-la &_o ego_fw-la recipiam_fw-la calv._n ibid._n §_o 32._o punct_a 5._o a._n c._n p._n 66._o 3_o reg._n 17._o 4_o reg._n 3._o 3_o reg._n 19_o 18._o 3_o reg._n 13._o 11._o 11._o petilianus_n dixit_fw-la venite_fw-la ad_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la populi_fw-la &_o aufugite_fw-la traditores_fw-la ita_fw-la orthodoxos_fw-la tum_fw-la appellavit_fw-la si_fw-la cum_fw-la iisdem_fw-la perire_fw-la non_fw-la vultis_fw-la num_fw-la ut_fw-la facilè_fw-la cogno●catis_fw-la quòd_fw-la ipsi_fw-la sunt_fw-la rei_fw-la de_fw-la fide_fw-la nostra_fw-la optimè_fw-la judicant_fw-la ego_fw-la illorum_fw-la infectos_fw-la baptizo_fw-la illi_fw-la meos_fw-la quod_fw-la absit_fw-la recipiunt_fw-la baptizatos_fw-la quae_fw-la om●ino_fw-la non_fw-la ●acerent_fw-la si_fw-la in_o baptismo_fw-la nostro_fw-la culpas_fw-la aliquas_fw-la agnovissent_fw-la videte_fw-la ergo_fw-la quod_fw-la damus_fw-la quam_fw-la sanctum_fw-la sit_fw-la quod_fw-la destruere_fw-la metuit_fw-la sacrilegus_fw-la inimicus_fw-la s._n august_n respondet_fw-la sic_fw-la approbamus_fw-la in_o haereticis_fw-la baptismum_fw-la nox_fw-la haereticorum_fw-la sed_fw-la christi_fw-la sicut_fw-la in_o fornicasoribus_fw-la idololatris_fw-la veneficis_fw-la etc._n etc._n approbamus_fw-la baptismum_fw-la non_fw-la eorm_n sed_fw-la christi_fw-la omnes_fw-la enim_fw-la isti_fw-la inter_fw-la quos_fw-la &_o haeretici_fw-la sunt_fw-la sicut_fw-la dicit_fw-la apostolus_fw-la regnum_fw-la dei_fw-la non_fw-la possidebunt_fw-la etc._n etc._n ●_o august_n ●_o 2._o cont_n lit._n petiliani_fw-la c._n 108._o 108._o galat._n 5._o 19_o 20_o 21._o 21._o non_fw-la ergo_fw-la vestrum_fw-la est_fw-la quod_fw-la destruert_n metuimus_fw-la sed_fw-la christi_fw-la quod_fw-la &_o in_fw-la sacrilegis_fw-la per_fw-la se_fw-la sanctum_fw-la est_fw-la s._n august_n ibid._n a._n c._n p._n 64_o 65._o a._n c._n p._n 66._o 66._o for_o though_o prateolus_n will_v make_v donatus_n and_o from_o he_o the_o donatist_n to_o be_v gullty_a of_o a_o impious_a heresy_n i_o doubt_v he_o mean_v arrianism_n though_o he_o name_v it_o not_o in_o make_v the_o son_n of_o god_n less_o than_o the_o father_n and_o the_o holy_a ghost_n less_o than_o the_o son_n l_o 4._o de_fw-fr haeres_fw-la haer._n 14._o yet_o these_o thing_n be_v most_o manifest_a out_o of_o s._n aug._n concern_v they_o who_o live_v with_o they_o both_o in_o time_n and_o place_n and_o understand_v they_o and_o their_o tenet_n far_o better_a than_o prateolus_n can_v and_o first_o s._n aug._n tell_v we_o concern_v they_o aryiani_n patris_fw-la &_o filii_fw-la &_o spiritus_fw-la sancti_fw-la diversas_fw-la substantias_fw-la esse_fw-la dicunt_fw-la donatistae_fw-la autem_fw-la unam_fw-la trinitatis_fw-la substantiam_fw-la confitentur_fw-la so_o they_o be_v no_o arrian_n second_o si_fw-la aliqui_fw-la eorum_fw-la minorem_fw-la filium_fw-la esse_fw-la dixerunt_fw-la quam_fw-la pater_fw-la est_fw-la ejusd●m_fw-la tamen_fw-la substantiae_fw-la non_fw-la ●●gârunt_fw-la but_o this_o be_v but_o si_fw-mi aliq●●_n if_o any_o so_o it_o be_v doubtful_a this_o too_o though_o patreolus_n deliver_v it_o positive_o three_o plurimi_fw-la ver●_n in_fw-la iis_fw-la ●oe_fw-la se_fw-la dicunt_fw-la omnino_fw-la credere_fw-la de_fw-la patre_fw-la &_o fili●_n &_o spirit●_n sancto_n quod_fw-la catholica_fw-la credit_n ecclesia_fw-la nec_fw-la ●●sa_fw-la cum_fw-la illis_fw-la vertitur_fw-la questio_fw-la sed_fw-la de_fw-la sola_fw-la communione_fw-la i●●oeliciter_fw-la litigant_fw-la etc._n etc._n de_fw-fr sola_fw-la only_o about_o the_o union_n with_o the_o church_n therefore_o they_o err_v not_o in_o fundamental_a point_n of_o faith_n and_o last_o all_o that_o can_v far_o be_v say_v against_o they_o be_v that_o some_o of_o they_o to_o win_v the_o goth_n to_o they_o when_o they_o be_v powerful_a say_v hoc_fw-la se_fw-la credere_fw-la quod_fw-la &_o illi_fw-la credunt_fw-la now_o the_o goth_n for_o the_o most_o be_v arrian_n but_o then_o faith_n s._n aug._n they_o be_v but_o n●●nulli_fw-la some_o of_o they_o and_o of_o this_o some_o it_o be_v no_o more_o certain_a than_o sicut_fw-la andivimus_fw-la as_o we_o have_v hear_v s._n aug._n know_v it_o not_o and_o then_o if_o it_o be_v true_a of_o some_o yet_o majorum_fw-la s●orum_fw-la authoritate_fw-la convincuntur_fw-la quia_fw-la nec_fw-la donatus_n ipse_fw-la sic_fw-la credidisse_fw-la asseritur_fw-la de_fw-la cujus_fw-la parte_fw-la se_fw-la esse_fw-la gloriantur_fw-la s._n aug._n epist._n 50._o where_o prateolus_n be_v again_o deceive_v for_o he_o say_v express_o that_o donatus_n affirm_v the_o son_n to_o be_v less_o than_o the_o father_n impius_fw-la ille_fw-la asserebat_fw-la etc._n etc._n but_o then_o indeed_o and_o which_o perchance_o deceive_v patreolus_n beside_o donatus_n the_o founder_n of_o this_o heresy_n there_o be_v another_o donatus_n who_o succeed_v majorinus_n at_o carth●ge_n and_o he_o be_v guilty_a of_o the_o heresy_n which_o prateolus_n mention_n et_fw-fr extant_a scripta_fw-la ejus_fw-la ubi_fw-la apparel_n a●_n s._n aug._n confess_v l_o 1._o de_fw-fr haeres_fw-la haer._n 69._o but_o then_o s._n aug._n add_v there_o also_o nec_fw-la facilè_fw-la in_o iis_fw-la quisquam_fw-la that_o scarce_o any_o of_o the_o donatist_n do_v so_o much_o as_o know_v that_o this_o donatus_n hold_v that_o opinion_n much_o less_o do_v they_o believe_v it_o themselves_o s._n aug._n ibid._n ibid._n §._o 21._o n._n 1_o etc._n etc._n punct_a 6._o a._n c._n p._n 66._o 66._o §._o 35._o n._n 1_o 2._o a._n c._n p._n 66._o 66._o i●gemuit_fw-la totus_fw-la orbis_n &_o arrianum_n se_fw-la esse_fw-la miratus_fw-la est_fw-la s._n h●er_n advers._fw-la luciferian_n post_fw-la medium_n to._n 2._o arrianorum_n venenum_fw-la non_fw-la ●am_fw-la portiunculam_fw-la quandam_fw-la sed_fw-la p●●è_fw