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A46985 A reply to the defense of the Exposition of the doctrin of the Church of England being a further vindication of the Bishop of Condom's exposition of the doctrin of the Catholic Church : with a second letter from the Bishop of Meaux. Johnston, Joseph, d. 1723. 1687 (1687) Wing J870; ESTC R36202 208,797 297

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first_o objection_n from_o the_o word_n of_o the_o institute_n than_o it_o must_v be_v understand_v figurative_o or_o it_o be_v plain_o absurd_a and_o impossible_a but_o the_o relative_n this_o in_o that_o proposition_n this_o be_v my_o body_n do_v belong_v to_o the_o bread_n forasmuch_o as_o christ_n take_v bread_n and_o bless_a bread_n and_o give_v bread_n to_o his_o disciple_n and_o therefore_o say_v of_o bread_n this_o be_v my_o body_n therefore_o that_o proposition_n this_o be_v my_o body_n must_v be_v understand_v figurative_o or_o it_o be_v plain_o absurd_a and_o impossible_a the_o major_a or_o first_o proposition_n he_o tell_v we_o be_v our_o common_a concession_n in_o answer_n to_o which_o i_o say_v answer_v answer_v if_o he_o understand_v the_o major_a in_o luther_n sense_n as_o bellarmin_n and_o gratian_n do_v who_o he_o cite_v for_o it_o that_o be_v that_o the_o word_n this_o in_o that_o proposition_n this_o be_v my_o body_n shall_v so_o signify_v bread_n that_o the_o meaning_n of_o it_o be_v this_o true_o wheaten_a bread_n remain_v such_o be_v also_o true_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n i_o grant_v it_o for_o as_o i_o tell_v he_o before_o from_o the_o cardinal_n it_o imply_v a_o contradiction_n for_o it_o can_v possible_o be_v that_o one_o thing_n shall_v not_o be_v change_v and_o yet_o shall_v be_v another_o because_o it_o will_v be_v that_o thing_n and_o not_o that_o thing_n but_o if_o he_o mean_v by_o his_o major_n that_o the_o word_n this_o in_o that_o proposition_n this_o be_v my_o body_n have_v such_o a_o reference_n to_o bread_n that_o the_o meaning_n be_v this_o bread_n be_v my_o body_n that_o be_v this_o substance_n of_o bread_n which_o i_o take_v in_o my_o hand_n i_o do_v by_o these_o word_n change_v into_o the_o substance_n of_o my_o body_n i_o deny_v it_o neither_o be_v it_o our_o common_a concession_n for_o in_o that_o sense_n it_o be_v neither_o a_o absurdity_n nor_o impossibility_n to_o understand_v the_o proposition_n literal_o so_o that_o you_o see_v luther_n will_v have_v no_o change_n and_o will_v yet_o have_v the_o word_n to_o be_v understand_v literal_o and_o we_o call_v that_o a_o absurdity_n catholic_n admit_v of_o a_o change_n and_o so_o understand_v they_o literal_o which_o be_v far_o from_o be_v either_o impossible_a or_o absurd_a we_o argue_v that_o the_o proposition_n in_o luther_n sense_n admit_v of_o no_o change_n be_v false_a absurd_a and_o impossible_a unless_o it_o be_v take_v figurative_o but_o in_o our_o own_o fence_n admit_v a_o change_n be_v true_a and_o genuine_a and_o need_v not_o be_v take_v figurative_o his_o minor_a or_o second_o proposition_n he_o tell_v we_o be_v beauty_n own_o grant_n nay_o what_o he_o contend_v for_o be_v this_o learned_a cardinal_n then_o so_o great_a a_o blockhead_n as_o to_o maintain_v that_o the_o word_n ought_v to_o be_v take_v literal_o and_o yet_o at_o the_o same_o time_n to_o
shall_v not_o question_v whether_o this_o be_v not_o one_o of_o the_o less_o faithful_a translation_n in_o this_o epistle_n because_o we_o know_v not_o what_o the_o word_n may_v be_v in_o greek_a neither_o will_v i_o go_v about_o to_o show_v that_o the_o accident_n themselves_o be_v often_o say_v to_o have_v their_o nature_n and_o that_o sometime_o call_v the_o nature_n of_o the_o substance_n of_o which_o they_o be_v the_o accident_n but_o i_o must_v say_v that_o if_o the_o word_n nature_n in_o that_o place_n mean_v substance_n or_o body_n so_o that_o the_o sense_n shall_v be_v this_o though_o the_o substance_n or_o body_n of_o bread_n remain_v the_o parallel_n will_v have_v be_v false_a and_o st._n chrysostom_n instead_o of_o dissuade_v caesarius_n from_o the_o heresy_n of_o apollinarius_n will_v have_v draw_v he_o to_o that_o of_o nestorius_n for_o caesarius_n must_v necessary_o have_v argue_v thus_o your_o parallel_n be_v betwixt_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o eucharist_n and_o the_o person_n or_o subsistence_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o mystery_n of_o the_o incarnation_n if_o then_o there_o be_v two_o substance_n in_o the_o eucharist_n there_o be_v also_o two_o subsistence_n in_o christ_n but_o this_o be_v far_o from_o st._n chrysostoms_n design_n his_o intention_n be_v therefore_o to_o show_v caesarius_n that_o as_o in_o the_o bless_a sacrament_n after_o consecration_n there_o be_v but_o one_o substance_n one_o body_n of_o christ_n though_o the_o accident_n of_o bread_n remain_v and_o that_o this_o substance_n be_v true_o call_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n so_o in_o the_o mystery_n of_o the_o incarnation_n there_o be_v but_o one_o son_n one_o person_n and_o that_o divine_a though_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o manhood_n do_v remain_v now_o what_o can_v be_v more_o clear_a for_o transubstantiation_n than_o this_o that_o in_o the_o eucharist_n there_o shall_v be_v but_o one_o body_n one_o substance_n and_o that_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n but_o our_o defender_n object_n that_o st._n chrysostom_n only_o say_v it_o be_v worthy_a to_o be_v call_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o it_o be_v call_v not_o two_o body_n but_o one_o body_n of_o the_o son_n and_o therefore_o the_o change_n be_v only_o in_o the_o appellation_n and_o not_o in_o the_o thing_n itself_o but_o certain_o if_o caesarius_n have_v understand_v st._n chrysostom_n in_o that_o sense_n caesarius_n may_v have_v answer_v he_o you_o will_v persuade_v i_o i_o see_v to_o be_v a_o arian_n and_o believe_v there_o be_v only_o a_o change_n in_o christ_n as_o to_o appellation_n and_o that_o he_o be_v not_o true_o god_n but_o only_o call_v so_o but_o this_o great_a saint_n and_o learned_a doctor_n be_v far_o from_o err_v in_o these_o point_n for_o last_o 83._o last_o 83._o that_o he_o do_v believe_v the_o real_a and_o substantial_a presence_n of_o christ_n body_n and_o blood_n in_o the_o sacrament_n and_o that_o a_o change_n be_v there_o make_v of_o the_o substance_n of_o bread_n into_o the_o sustance_n of_o his_o body_n appear_v by_o many_o plain_a expression_n in_o his_o undoubted_a work_n bigotius_n mention_v two_o passage_n in_o his_o suppress_a epistle_n which_o i_o will_v here_o give_v the_o reader_n in_o english_a though_o the_o defender_n do_v not_o think_v it_o convenient_a so_o to_o do_v and_o add_v two_o or_o three_o more_o 1616._o more_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d hom._n 2._o ad_fw-la pop_n antioch_n in_o fine_a pag._n 43._o b._n edit_n frontoduc_n 1616._o elias_n say_v he_o leave_v his_o mantle_n to_o his_o disciple_n but_o the_o son_n of_o god_n leave_v we_o his_o flesh_n elias_n strip_v himself_o indeed_o to_o leave_v it_o but_o christ_n both_o leave_v we_o his_o flesh_n and_o retain_v it_o himself_o ascend_v let_v we_o not_o therefore_o lose_v courage_n nor_o lament_v nor_o fear_v the_o difficulty_n of_o time_n for_o he_o who_o do_v not_o refuse_v to_o shed_v his_o blood_n for_o all_o and_o have_v communicate_v to_o we_o his_o flesh_n and_o also_o that_o very_a blood_n what_o will_v he_o refuse_v for_o our_o salvation_n the_o second_o passage_n cite_v by_o bigotius_n be_v thus_o at_o length_n 1003._o length_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d hom._n 83_o in_o matth._n pag._n 703._o d._n edit_n commel_n 1003._o let_v we_o therefore_o every_o where_o believe_v god_n neither_o let_v we_o resist_v he_o although_o what_o he_o say_v may_v seem_v absurd_a to_o our_o sense_n or_o cogitation_n let_v his_o word_n rule_v our_o sense_n and_o reason_n which_o we_o perform_v in_o all_o but_o especial_o in_o the_o mystery_n not_o only_o look_v upon_o those_o thing_n which_o lie_v before_o we_o but_o retain_v also_o his_o word_n for_o we_o can_v be_v deceive_v by_o his_o word_n but_o our_o sense_n be_v easy_o to_o be_v deceive_v those_o can_v be_v false_a but_o these_o be_v often_o and_o often_o deceive_v see_v therefore_o he_o have_v say_v this_o be_v my_o body_n let_v we_o not_o be_v doubtful_a but_o believe_v and_o view_v it_o with_o the_o eye_n of_o our_o understanding_n and_o a_o little_a after_o he_o say_v a._n say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ib._n p._n 704._o a._n how_o many_o be_v there_o now_o who_o say_v i_o will_v glad_o see_v his_o form_n his_o shape_n i_o will_v see_v his_o very_a garment_n i_o will_v see_v his_o shoe_n behold_v thou_o see_v answer_n he_o himself_z thou_o touch_v he_o thou_o eat_v he_o and_o thou_o be_v still_o desirous_a to_o see_v his_o garment_n and_o a_o little_a further_o who_o will_v declare_v the_o power_n of_o our_o lord_n and_o who_o will_v publish_v all_o his_o praise_n what_o shepherd_n ever_o yet_o feed_v his_o flock_n with_o his_o own_o member_n and_o why_o do_v i_o mention_v shepherd_n there_o be_v many_o mother_n who_o give_v their_o child_n to_o other_o nurse_n but_o he_o christ_n not_o so_o he_o nourish_v we_o with_o his_o own_o blood_n and_o close_o knit_v himself_o to_o we_o in_o all_o thing_n a._n thing_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ib._n p._n 705._o a._n the_o thing_n we_o propose_v be_v not_o do_v by_o human_a power_n he_o who_o wrought_v these_o thing_n at_o the_o last_o supper_n be_v the_o author_n of_o what_o be_v do_v here_o we_o hold_v but_o the_o place_n of_o minister_n but_o he_o who_o sanctify_v and_o change_v they_o be_v christ_n himself_n to_o these_o i_o may_v add_v that_o in_o his_o liturgy_n the_o priest_n pray_v frontonduc_n pray_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d tom._n 5._o p._n 614._o b._n edit_n frontonduc_n that_o god_n will_v make_v that_o bread_n the_o precious_a body_n of_o his_o son_n etc._n etc._n and_o that_o which_o be_v in_o the_o chalice_n the_o pretions_n blood_n of_o his_o christ_n etc._n etc._n change_v they_o by_o his_o holy_a spirit_n and_o in_o his_o homily_n the_o proditione_n judae_n he_o teach_v that_o judas_n receive_v the_o very_a body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n which_o he_o betray_v his_o word_n be_v these_o and_o judas_n be_v present_a when_o christ_n say_v these_o word_n a._n word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d tom._n 3._o serm._n 30._o pag._n 463._o a._n this_o be_v the_o body_n say_v he_o o_o judas_n which_o thou_o have_v sell_v for_o thirty_o piece_n of_o silver_n this_o be_v the_o blood_n for_o which_o thou_o have_v make_v a_o bargain_n with_o the_o pharisee_n oh_o the_o mercy_n of_o christ_n oh_o the_o madness_n of_o judas_n he_o make_v a_o bargain_n to_o sell_v he_o for_o thirty_o penny_n and_o christ_n offer_v he_o the_o blood_n which_o he_o sell_v that_o he_o may_v have_v remission_n of_o his_o sin_n if_o he_o will_v have_v cease_v to_o be_v wicked_a for_o judas_n be_v there_o and_o be_v permit_v to_o partake_v of_o the_o sacrifice_n c._n sacrifice_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ib._n c._n for_o it_o be_v not_o man_n who_o make_v the_o propose_v element_n to_o be_v the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n but_o christ_n himself_o who_o be_v crueify_v for_o we_o the_o priest_n perform_v the_o ceremony_n and_o pronounce_v the_o word_n but_o it_o be_v the_o virtue_n and_o grace_n of_o god_n which_o operate_v the_o whole_a he_o say_v 1.28_o say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ib._n c._n gen._n 1.28_o this_o be_v my_o body_n this_o word_n transmute_v or_o change_v the_o propose_v thing_n or_o element_n and_o as_o the_o voice_n which_o say_v increase_v and_o multiply_v and_o fill_v the_o earth_n be_v but_o once_o speak_v but_o in_o all_o time_n by_o the_o operation_n of_o nature_n feel_v the_o effect_n as_o to_o generation_n so_o that_o voice_n be_v but_o once_o uttor_v but_o yet_o give_v a_o firmness_n to_o the_o sacrifice_n throughout_o all_o the_o table_n of_o the_o church_n even_o to_o this_o very_a day_n and_o shall_v continue_v it_o even_o to_o his_o very_a come_n these_o thing_n be_v consider_v 129._o appendix_n p._n 129._o
hebrew_n conclude_v that_o there_o ought_v not_o only_o not_o other_o victim_n to_o the_o offer_a for_o sin_n after_o that_o of_o christ_n but_o that_o even_a christ_n himself_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v any_o more_o offer_a and_o make_v his_o advantage_n of_o it_o whereas_o if_o he_o have_v add_v the_o next_o word_n they_o will_v have_v solve_v the_o difficulty_n falsification_n a_o falsification_n for_o the_o bishop_n word_n be_v that_o the_o aposile_n conclude_v we_o ought_v not_o only_o to_o offer_v up_o no_o more_o victim_n after_o jesus_n christ_n but_o that_o jesus_n christ_n himself_o ought_v to_o be_v but_o once_o offer_v up_o to_o death_n for_o we_o but_o these_o last_o word_n be_v oversee_v by_o our_o expositor_n or_o he_o be_v loath_a to_o trouble_v himself_o with_o such_o distinction_n as_o make_v for_o peace_n i_o may_v also_o take_v notice_n how_o cautious_o the_o defender_n avoid_v my_o question_n concern_v what_o the_o church_n of_o england_n hold_v concern_v her_o priest_n whether_o they_o be_v true_o priest_n or_o no_o whether_o she_o acknowledge_v a_o sacrifice_n and_o a_o altar_n true_o and_o proper_o speak_v or_o no_o though_o possible_o not_o in_o such_o a_o rigorous_a sense_n as_o may_v be_v put_v upon_o the_o word_n to_o all_o which_o he_o return_v a_o profound_a silence_n as_o for_o the_o reflection_n upon_o what_o have_v be_v say_v i_o leave_v the_o reader_n to_o make_v they_o himself_o and_o hope_v if_o he_o have_v a_o true_a zeal_n for_o the_o salvation_n of_o his_o soul_n he_o will_v serious_o consider_v the_o premise_n and_o hearty_o beseech_v almighty_a god_n to_o enlighten_v his_o mind_n to_o the_o knowledge_n of_o his_o true_a faith_n without_o which_o it_o be_v impossible_a to_o please_v he_o art_fw-la xxii_o communion_n under_o both_o species_n the_o vindicator_n tell_v i_o frivolous_a i_o 102._o the_o vindicator_n argument_n show_v to_o be_v neither_o faise_n unreasonable_a nor_o frivolous_a that_o i_o advance_v three_o argument_n in_o this_o article_n from_o the_o public_a act_n of_o their_o own_o church_n the_o first_o false_a the_o second_o both_o false_a and_o unreasonable_a and_o the_o three_o nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n by_o which_o i_o see_v he_o be_v not_o unskilled_a in_o multiplication_n and_o very_o willing_a to_o cast_v the_o liar_n upon_o i_o if_o he_o can_v but_o the_o false_a the_o unreasonable_a and_o the_o impertinent_a will_v be_v find_v perhaps_o to_o lie_v at_o the_o accuser_n door_n my_o argument_n be_v but_o one_o and_o i_o think_v neither_o unreasonable_a nor_o impertinent_a he_o have_v tell_v i_o from_o their_o 30_o article_n 30._o art._n 30._o that_o the_o church_n of_o england_n declare_v that_o the_o cup_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v deny_v to_o the_o lay-people_n for_o as_o much_o as_o both_o part_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n by_o christ_n ordinance_n and_o commandment_n ought_v to_o be_v adminisire_v to_o all_o christian_a man_n alike_o from_o hence_o i_o argue_v that_o 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