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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A45830	Infants-baptism disproved and believers baptism proved, or, An answer to several arguments propounded in a paper by Mr. Alexander Kellie, minister at Giles Criple Gate London, and sent to Mr. Jeremiah Ives of the said parish and is now published for the general information of all, but particularly for the satisfaction of many of the inhabitants of the said parish who have desired it, wherein the arguments for infant-baptism are examined and disproved by the said Jeremia Ives.	Ives, Jeremiah, fl. 1653-1674.	1655 (1655)	Wing I1100; ESTC R31669	39,332	78

he shall survey your Arguments with the Answers to them Your first stone that you lay in this building or Argument that you bring to prove Infants ought to be Baptized is Mr. Kellie's first Argument IF all Nations are commanded to be baptized then Infants are commanded to be baptized But all Nations are commanded to be baptized Ergo Infants are commanded to be baptized Mr. Ive's Answer I Doe first deny the major Proposition because that in many places of Scripture the word all Nations is used where Infants are not included as Psal 72.17 All Nations shall call him blessed Deut. 29.24 All Nations shall say wherefore hath the Lord done thus unto this Land Mark 11.17 Is it not written saith Christ that my house shall be called of all Nations the house of prayer Psal 118.10 All Nations compassed me about but in the name of the Lord will I destroy them And so Mat. 3.12 All Nations shall call you blessed And the very place upon which you frame your Argument is enough if there were no more Mat. 28.19 where Christ bids his Disciples to Goe and teach all Nations c. I would ask any man that knowes what an Argument is whether by your Rule of reasoning viz. All Nations are commanded to be baptized therefore Infants I may not as well say The Disciples were commanded to teach all Nations therefore they were commanded to teach Infants of eight dayes old And again the Disciples were commanded to teach them to wit the Nations according to our Translation all things that Christ commanded his Disciples to doe Now the Disciples were commanded to break bread and drink wine in remembrance of the body and blood of the Lord Mat. 26.27 And they were commanded to wash one anothers feet John 13.14 and many other things Now may I not as well say That Infants were commanded these things as well as baptism since as the 19 Verse saith Baptize them the 20 Verse saith Teaching them to observe all things that I. viz. Christ have commanded you And again May I not as well say from the fore cited Scriptures because the Psalms saith all Nations shall call Christ blessed that Infants in the Cradle at eight dayes old shall call him blessed And because all Nations shall say wherefore hath God done this to Israel therefore Infants of eight dayes old shall say so And because that Christ saith that his fathers house shall be called of all Nations a house of prayer that therefore Infants of eight dayes old are commanded to call it so And because David saith all Nations compassed him about therefore Infants of eight dayes old compassed him about And because it 's prophesied that all Nations shall call Israel blessed therefore Infants of eight dayes old shall call them blessed I say May I not as well reason thus as you may reason If all Nations may be baptized Infants may 2 I yet Answer further as before at our meeting That this Argument pleads as much for the baptizing of all Turks and Infidells because as Turks and Infidells they are a part of all Nations though they never believe in Christ and by this rule the Eunuch Acts 8. might have desired baptism although he had never believ'd in Christ because he was of some one Nation or other which is contrary I presume to your own opinion and to the opinion of the Church of England who will not baptize a Turk or an Indian unlesse he convert and professe Christ But may not the Turk or Indian if he should be denied baptism take up your Argument and say If all Nations may be baptized then we may be baptized But all Nations may be baptized Therefore we may See therefore how this Argument doth interfere with your owne practice 3 Again You seem to plead for the baptism of believers Children onely but your Argument pleads for unbelievers Children as much or more then believers for if that believers Children must be baptized because they are a part of Nations who sees not but by the same rule unbelievers Children may be baptized because they are a greater part of the Nations then the Children of believers I Answer to your minor Proposition as before at your house That it 's a Command for believers and Disciples of Christ that they should be baptized and not for all the Nations as appears by the Originall word which is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 make Disciples 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 baptizing THEM and not the Nations which you could not deny which made way for your second Argument which was to prove that Infants were Disciples Mr. Kellie's second Argument ALL that are taught of God are Disciples But the Infants of Gods people are taught of God Ergo. They are Disciples Mr. Ive's Answer I Answer first by distinguishing of the Tearm Taught in the major Proposition If by Taught you mean as the Prophet Jeremiah doth Chap. 32.33 where it 's said God taught them but they refused to receive Instruction then I deny the major for those that refused to receive instruction were not Disciples though they were taught But secondly If by Taught you mean taught so as to receive instruction and learn then I deny the minor for that Infants at eight dayes old are not taught neither doe they receive instruction or learn To prove this you bring Isa 54.13 where it 's said All thy Children shall be taught of God Answer This doth no more prove that infants in the Cradle of eight dayes old were taught and learned then the Command the Disciples had to teach all Nations proves that they taught infants of eight dayes old and that they learned instruction 2 This is a Prophesie that all Israels Children should be taught of God and not a Prophesie that they should all be taught so as to learn in your sence which is the thing you are to prove for if they should all be so taught then they should all of them be saved 3 If you shall say the Prophesie respects the believers Children whether Jewes or Gentiles that they shall be all taught c. yet it doth not say they shall be taught in their Cradle or at eight dayes old which you must prove because you say infants are Disciples 4 How soon doe you lose the tearms of the Proposition You are to prove Infants are taught and you bring a Text that speaks of Children as though there were no Children but infant-children Whereas indeed the Scripture tells us of all Abrahams Children that were so by believing and not by virtue of their carnall discent from Abraham Gal. 3.7 You further goe on to prove that this Teaching is to be understood of infants and that it 's a teaching by which they learn and are made Disciples by the Argument that you used at your house which is the same in your Paper Mr. Kellie THey that are inwardly and effectually taught are taught and learne But infants according to this Scripture Isa 54.13 are inwardly and effectually taught