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A13160 A challenge concerning the Romish Church, her doctrine & practises, published first against Rob. Parsons, and now againe reuiewed, enlarged, and fortified, and directed to him, to Frier Garnet, to the archpriest Blackevvell and all their adhærents, by Matth. Sutcliffe. Thereunto also is annexed an answere vnto certeine vaine, and friuolous exceptions, taken to his former challenge, and to a certeine worthlesse pamphlet lately set out by some poore disciple of Antichrist, and entituled, A detection of diuers notable vntrueths, contradictions, corruptions, and falsifications gathered out of M. Sutcliffes new challenge, &c. Sutcliffe, Matthew, 1550?-1629.; Sutcliffe, Matthew, 1550?-1629. Briefe replie to a certaine odious and slanderous libel. 1602 (1602) STC 23454; ESTC S117867 337,059 440

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body to absteine from the cup of the sacred blood but the church of Rome doth expresly forbid all communicants beside the priest to receiue the cuppe and taketh this to be good religion The papists also are well content to be depriued of the cup of the new testament and thinke not the sacrament so mangled to be imperfect argument 34 The true catholike church neuer taught nor thought so basely of the most holy body of our Lord and Sauiour Christ Iesus as that a mouse a hogge or dogge or other creature eating the consecrated host did also eat the Lords body presse it with téeth and swallow it downe into the belly nor did the same imagine that the Lords body might be throwen in the mire and troden vnder féet and throwne into places vncleane and too homely to be named but the synagogue of Rome beléeueth that brute beastes may eat Christes bodie If a dogge or hogge saith b P. 4 q 45. Alexander Hales should eat a consecrated hoste I see no cause but the Lords body should go therewithall into that dogges or hogges belly some haue said as it is in the third part of Thomas Aquinas his summe of diuinity that as soone as the sacrament is taken of a mouse or a dogge straightway the body and blood of Christ cease to be there c. but that is derogatorie to the trueth of this sacrament it is also the common opinion of all papisticall doctors that the body and blood of Christ so long continue in the sacrament as the formes of bread and wine continue vncorrupt and that they goe into all places together vnlesse therefore Robert Parsons or some other doe helpe héere and shew that the true church of Christ did beléeue and teach as before is declared both he and his consorts must néeds confesse that the Romish church is not the true church argument 35 The ancient catholike church had but one sacrifice one altar one priest after the order of Melchisedech the priest after the order of Melchisedech was Christ Iesus he was also that sacrifice the altar was his crosse tu es sacerdos in aeternum saith God by his c Psal 109. Hebr. 5. prophet secundum ordinem Melchisedech he because he remaineth for euer hath an eternall priesthood as the apostle saith Hebr. 7. but the papists erect altars of stone whereupon they say they offer their sacrifices they beléeue also that their priests offer vp sacrifices and that they are according to the order of Melchisedech as if they had neither father nor mother nor certeine genealogy and were holy and impolluted doe they not then declare that they haue erected a new congregation that is diuers from the church of Christ neither is it materiall that the fathers doe call the Lords supper or eucharist a sacrifice for they doe not so call it for other cause but for that it is a memoriall of Christs sacrifice on the crosse Christ saith d Dedemonstrat Euangelic lib. 1. c. 10. Eusebius offred a most excellent sacrifice for vs all and gaue vs a memoriall or sacrament thereof in stead of a sacrifice Chrysostome writing vpon the epistle to the Hebrewes teacheth vs that our sacrifice is but a samplar or memoriall of Christs sacrifice and this Peter Lombard frankly confesseth that which is offered and consecrated by the priest is called a sacrifice and oblation saith e Sentent 4. dist 12. he because it is a memoriall and representation of the true sacrifice and holy oblation made on the altar of the crosse argument 36 The true church of Christ neuer erected more altars then one in one church nor did the same distribute the sacrament in diuers angles in one and the same church aliud altare constitu● saith f Epist 25. pleb vniuersae Cyprian aut sacerdotium nouum fieri praeter vnum altare vnum sacerdotium non potest likewise saith g Epist ad Philadelph Ignatius quod vnus sit panis pro omnibus confractus vnus calix totius ecclesiae but the papistes haue alters in euery corner of their churches and there diuers priests sing or say diuers masses and offer sacrifices there also they consecrate and diuide the sacrament making a diuision no lesse in their congregations then in their altars chalices and sacrifices argument 37 The true church did neuer agree for trentales of masses nor for aniuersary memorialles nor sell the sacrament of Christes body but the Romish priests take mony for trentales of masses and without hire they will not make aniuersary commemorations they sticke not also to sell Christs body or at least their masses for mony deteriores sunt Iuda saith h Onus ecclesiae c. 23. one speaking of Romish priests alledging the authority of saint Brigit qui pro solis denariis me vendidit illi autem pro omni mercimonio argument 38 Our sauiour Christ and his apostles taught the church that the sacrament of his body and blood was to be receiued and eaten and drunken of which we collect that it was auaileable onely for the quicke that could receiue eat and drinke and not for the dead that could doe none of these things neither did Christs church beléeue that the Lords supper was satisfactory for paines in purgatory or good against lightning and thunder or such calamities but the Romish church doth hold that their eucharistical sacrifice is propitiatory for the dead as well as the quicke that the same is expiatory and doth worke diuers other woondrous effects hoc sacrificium saith i De valore missae parad 12. Guernerus est expiatiuum debitae poenae tam hic quam in futuro exoluendae k ibidem parad 9. he sheweth also that the same worketh miraculous effects against thunder danger of enemies and other calamities and that he that frequenteth the masse shall be directed in all things which new doctrine vnlesse Robert Parsons can prooue that it hath béene taught in the ancient church of Christ will greatly endanger the state of the Romish church argument 39 In the true church of Christ no priest euer tooke to himselfe so great presumption as to become a mediator to God for Christ Iesus for he is a mediator betwixt God and man and méere blasphemy it is for a mortall man to challenge to himselfe to be a mediator betwixt God the father and his sonne but in the Romish church the priest becommeth a mediator and intercessor for Christ for speaking of the body and blood of our Sauior he saith l In canone missae supra quae propitio acsereno vultu respicere digneris accepta habere sicut accepta habere dignatus es munera pueri tui iusti Abel sacrificium patriarchae nostri Abrahae Vpon which saith he vouchsafe to looke with a fauourable and pleasant countenance and to accept them as thou vouchsafest to accept the gifts of Abel and the sacrifice of our patriarch Abraham and afterward iube haec perferri
per manus sancti angeli tui in sublime altare tuum Command these things saith the priest speaking of the bodie and blood of Christ to be brought by the hands of the holy angell vnto thy high altar these things are blasphemous and cannot be allowed of Christ his church neither can Parsons or Bellarmine answere that these words are found in the booke of sacraments attributed to S. Ambrose lib. 4. c. 6. for there is great difference betwixt the words of the canon of the masse the words of that author and the meaning of him is cleane contrary for neuer shall it be prooued that the author of that treatise beléeued that the body and blood of Christ was vnder the formes of bread and wine in the sacrament or that he meant the body and blood of Christ where he compareth the sacrament to the sacrifices of Abel and Abraham argument 40 The true church of Christ neuer added to the words of Christ in the consecration of the cup saying noui aeterni testamenti mysterium fidei neither are these words found in the old formularies of the liturgies of the church of Rome as I haue shewed in my treatise of the masse against Bellarmine doth not then this new tricke of the latter Romish church departing from the former shew a manifest difference betwixt them argument 41 The true church did neuer offer the sacrament pro redemptione animarum suarum neither did the same vse the commemoration for the dead as it is in the Romish missal saying memento domine famulorum famularúmque qui nos praecesserunt cum signo fidei dormiunt in somno pacis nay this forme is not to be found in the olde formulary which the Romans vsed about fiue or six hundred yeeres agone but now all m In canone missae Romanists do thus say and pray if then Rob. Parsons could shew this forme or any such prayers or words in ancient authors he might doe a great pleasure to the church of Rome that otherwise is like to proue the synagogue of Antichrist argument 42 The true church of Christ did neuer consecrate incense nor say n In ordinar missae per intercessionē beati Michaelis archangeli stantis a dextris altaris incensi omnium electorum suorum incensum istud dignetur dominus benedicere in odorem suauitatis accipere if Robert Parsons can prooue the contrary let him do it otherwise the Romish church will fall out not to be Christes true church argument 43 The true church neuer had distinct masses whereof some were ordinary others proper for the times others proper for saints others for particular mens deuotions as for example for the election of the pope for taking away schismaticall contentions for time of warre for time of sicknesse and such other occasions but the o Missale Rom. Romish church hath masses for all these causes and occasions argument 44 The true church did neuer consecrate holy water and say exorcizo te creatura salis c. and exorcizo te creatura aquae c. vt fias aqua exorcizata ad effugandam omnem potestatem inimici ipsum inimicum eradicare explantare valeas cum angelis suis apostaticis it is not the true church therefore that doth practise these exorcismes argument 45 The Christian church doth not reteine the ceremonies of the Iewes nor eat the Paschall lambe for as the p 1. Cor. 5. apostle saith Pascha nostrum immolatus est Christus but the q In fine missalis Rom. Romanists according to the rules of their missal doe consecrate and eat a Paschal lambe and pray thus Deus qui per famulum tuum Moysem in liberatione populi tui de Aegypto agnum occidi iussisti in similitudinem Domini nostri Iesu Christi vtrosque postes domorum de sanguine huius agni perungi praecepisti ita benedicere sanctificare digneris hanc creaturam carnis quam nos famuli tui ad laudem tuam sumere desideramus argument 46 The true church of God neuer formed any image of God the Father or God the Holy ghost or of Gods diuine essence neither did the same euer set vp images in churches to be worshipped with lights incense kissing crowching prayers or other such like ceremonies the second commandement directly forbiddeth the making of grauen images to be worshipped and districtly commandeth vs that we should not bow downe vnto them and that this commandement was direct against the worwip of images the first Christians did well vnderstand r Aduers gentes Arnobius saith that they had no altars nor temples nor images worshiped in open shew ne simulachra quidem veneramur saith ſ Contra Celsum lib. 7. Origen quippe qui Dei vt inuisibilis ita incorporei formam nullam effigiamus t Lib. 2. diuin instit c. 19. Lactantius doubteth not to affirme that there is no religion where there is an image and when images and pictures began to créepe into the churches as an outward ornament the councell of Eliberis to preuent all inconueniences forbad pictures in churches Placuit saith the u Concil Elib c. 36. councell picturas in ecclesia esse non debere ne quod colitur aut adoratur in parietibus depingatur such was then the religion of Spaine Arnobius declareth that Christians were not woont to worship the crosse Cruces saith x Aduers gentes lib. 8. he nec colimus nec optamus nay y Lib. 9. epist 9. Gregory the first himselfe albeit he would not haue images broken downe yet would he not haue them adored or worshipped and Ionas Aurelianensis albeit a defender of images yet writeth thus of them Creaturam adorari eíque aliquid diuinae seruitutis impendi proh nefas ducimus huiusque sceleris patratorem detestandum anathematizandum libera voce proclamumus saith z De cultu imaginum lib. 4. Ionas but papists fall downe before images and giue diuine worship to the crosse and crucifixe neither do they onely make the images of the Father and Holy ghost but worship them finally they burne incense knéele and pray to stocks and stones argument 47 The true church did neuer pray or administer the holy sacraments of the Lords supper and Baptisme in a strange tongue not vnderstood of the common sort Si orem lingua saith the a 1. Cor. 14. apostle spiritus meus orat mens autem mea fine fructu est he saith it is fruitlesse to pray in a tongue not vnderstood and reason teacheth vs that this is true for if God respect not the mouing of our lips vnlesse our heart accord with our tongue how can our heart accord when we vnderstand not what our tongue vttereth finally the practise of the church teacheth vs that a knowen tongue is to be vsed in publike praiers and in the administration of sacraments as the answers of the people to the priest in all ancient liturgies and the
body and this is my blood gaue a sacrament of his bodie and blood and not that body that sat at the table nor the blood that was in the veines of his body l Lib. 4. contr Marcion Tertullian saith that Christ made the bread which was deliuered to his disciples his body by saying this is my body that is the figure of my body and likewise saint m Contra Adimantum c. 12. Augustine affirmeth that Christ doubted not to say this is my body when he gaue a signe of his bodie and that this is the catholike faith concerning this sacrament I haue at large declared in a treatise of the reall presence of late published against Bellarmine which Robert Parsons may doe well to take notice of argument 50 They anathematise all those that shall affirme that the substance of bread and wine remaineth in the sacrament after consecration n Concil Trid. sess 13. and that shall dare to deny transubstantiation which curse lighteth not on vs onely but vpon the apostle saint Paule who after the words of consecration speaking of the sacrament saieth let a man examine himselfe and so eat of this bread and drinke of this cup. it falleth also vpon all true catholikes that according to our Sauiours wordes shall call the cup being consecrate genimen vitis o Aduers Iudaeos Tertullian saith that Christ called bread his body Saint Hierome in a certeine epistle to Hedibia saith that the bread which the Lord brake and gaue to his disciples is the Lords body this is also saint Augustines iudgement c. qui manducant de consectat dist 2. and Theodorets in his first dialogue and diuers others that affirme that the pronoune Hoc in these words hoc est corpus meum doth demonstrate the bread finally vnlesse the papists grant that the bread remaineth in the sacrament after consecration they must néedes grant that Christ hath a body impalpable inuisible and that may be in all altars at once and yet filleth no place and such a body as neuer man had before nor euer shall haue héereafter argument 51 p Sess 13. concil Trid. c. 5. They anathematise those that shall affirme that the principal fruite of the eucharist is remission of sinnes which falleth vpon all catholikes that shall beléeue these words of q Matth. 26. Christ this is my blood of the new testament which is shed for many for remission of sinnes argument 52 They do also bitterly curse all such as shall say that Christs body in the sacrament is not to be worshipped r Concil Trid. sess 13. c. 6. with diuine honour or that shall condemne the feast of corpus Christi or the popish fashion in carying about the sacrament and yet neuer true catholike did so worship or cary about the sacrament as papists doe our Sauiour said take eat and not fall downe and worship or cary about this sacrament or put it in a pixe the disciples they did also as our Sauiour Christ commanded and the ancient church as appeareth by all the ancient liturgies did communicate and not worship the sacrament as their Lord and God according to the stile of the Romanists argument 53 ſ Ibid. c. 8. They doe anathematize all them that hold that Christ is receiued in the sacrament spiritually and not otherwise which toucheth saint Augustine and all catholikes he t Tract 25. in Ioan. saith vt quid paras dentem the rest say that Christs flesh is meat of the soule and not of the body cibus mentis non ventris argument 54 They do also u Sess 22. anathematise such as deny the body blood of Christ to be really and properly offered vp in the masse for an externall and propitiatory sacrifice for quicke and dead and say that the eucharist is a memoriall of Christes sacrifice on the crosse but the apostle Heb. 7. 10. teacheth vs that Christ his sacrifice was to be offered vp but once and that he left no successours behinde him to offer this sacrifice * De demonstr euangel lib. 1. Eusebius also saith that our sacrifice is the memoriall of Christ his sacrifice and this also Chrysostome vpon the epistle to the Hebrewes cléerely demonstrateth argument 55 They do offer sacrifice for the dead and in honor of the virgine Mary and of saints likewise do they offer Christs body as they say for faire weather for peace and what they please but this shall not Robert Parsons be euer able to shew to haue béene practised by catholikes nay of such deuices there is not any signe or suspicion in ancient liturgies but of the contrary rather argument 56 Ancient catholikes resorting to church y Can. apost 9. 10. departed not before they receiued the communion but now the priest eateth and drinketh all and sendeth away Gods people emptie argument 57 Christ instituted the sacrament of the Lords supper in both kinds and so Christians receiued it in ancient time as the doctors assembled at Constance confesse and yet they decrée that beside the priest that doth minister all the rest shall content themselues with one kinde argument 58 Catholikes do not beléeue that priests administring the sacrament worke woonders but the papists beléeue that they worke diuers miracles making one body to be in many places and accidents to subsist without subiect and an humane body to be in a place without filling the place of a body argument 59 The z Hebr. 5. 7. apostle telleth vs that Christ onely is a priest according to the order of Melchisedech and this all catholikes beléeue but papists beléeue that euery greasie and polshorne priest is a priest after the order of Melchisedech yea although as they suppose he offereth neither bread nor wine as did Melchisedech argument 60 Christ taught vs to pray to the father in his name and so did all true catholikes in ancient time but now papists pray to Christ in the name of our Lady and of saints as if we were not to approch to our Mediatour without the mediation of others to the virgine Mary they pray thus a In breuiar Aue maris stella Dei mater alma atque semper virgo foelix coeli porta solue vincla reis profer lumen caecis in the Romish breuiary they call her dulcem amicam Dei in the missal of Sarum per te mater say they aboleri filiorum flagitamus crimina nósque omnes introduci in sempiterna paradisi gaudia as if the holy virgine had power to remit sinnes and were the gate by which we enter into heauen argument 61 Catholikes neuer vsed to bow themselues before stocks or stones or to pray before them are they then catholiks which like to the b Hierem. 2. idolatrous Iewes say to a stocke thou art my father and to a stone thou hast begotten me which set light before those that can not sée and crie before those that can not heare and say c
sinners and for those that die entangled in loue of riches and per consequent great sinners Likewise in the 69 Homilie Ad populum Antioch hee saieth that iust men dying see God face to face would haue Christians he mourne for those that are dead in sinnes Excogite●… eis ●…uid solatii sayth hee modicum quidem ●lamemus tamen These he would haue also to be remembred in the celebratiō of the holy mysteries and would haue almes distributed for them And this is that oblation that the fathers speak of Finally neuer shall Owlyg●asse proue that Chrysostome or Augustine or any father beléeued that Christs body and bloud was offered for the dead as the Papists vse to offer it or that wee are to pray as they prayed in the memento for the dead in the Canon To the place of Chrysostome I doe therefore answere that he meant only that the dead should be remembred in the celebration of the mysteries and was vncertaine what good it did to them saying sometimes it did them much good some time but litle Vnto the places of Epiphanius haere 75. And Augustine de haeres ca. 53. that Aerius was condemned for disallowing the order of the Church in this commemoration of the dead and giuing thanks for their blessed ●nd And this is that prayer which Caluin and we confesse to haue beene in the Church along time But this maketh nothing for Owlyglasses purpose For first the fathers neither knew nor allowed Masses without Cōmunion Quisquis mysteriorū consors non est sayth Chrysostome impudens improbus astat He condemneth him as a wicked fellow that was present at the celebration of the Eucharist and did not communicate The which I haue confirmed by diuerse testimonies in my Latine booke de Missa agaynst Bellarmine There also I haue shewed that the fathers did neuer teach that the body and bloud of Christ were offered in the sacrament for quicke and dead Lastly in auncient time they made a commemoration of the Patriarks of the blessed virgin of the Apostles Mar●yrs and others Now they pray to them and not for them as in time past Wherefore to proue Masses and prayers and speciall offices for the dead such as the Romish Church vseth to be Catholike Owl●glasse must bring vs other testimonies and other fathers In the meane while he hath proued himselfe a lyar and not me and hath vtterly ouerthrowne the Masses of Requiem and Dirges for the dead and not proued them in any sort to be Catholike or ancient So that if he can say no more for Masses he may go sing a Requiem for the soule of the Masse Sect. 5. Of the Idolatrous worship of Papists which they giue to Images to Saints to the Crosse pag. 20. HIs fift accusation falleth vpon my words in the 1. chapter of my challenge num 16. where I say that the Papists haue deuised Masses in the honor of the crosse of the virgin Mary Saint Francis Dominicke and other saints and that vnto the Images of these Saints they burne incense offer their praiers and deuotions But he to make his obiection the stronger doth leaue out the first part of my sentence knowing himselfe to be guiltie of the crime wherewith his consorts are charged And in the latter part he leaueth out that which I say of the Crosse and Incense vpon which the ground of the worke is laide Wherefore if he knew what hee wrote he coulde not but well vnderstande that hee had falsifyed my wordes And yet fearing hee had not holde inough he goeth to the 64. page and where I say that Damascene accounteth them Heretikes De haeresib C. Christiano-categori that worship the Images of our Sauiour of the blessed Virgin and the Saintes as the Gentiles did their Gods and that this is iust the cast of the Papists hee leaueth out that which I say of the Images of our Sauiour and of the blessed Virgin wherevpon dependeth the substance of my charge which aryseth of this principally that the Papists doe giue the worship of Latria to the Crucifixe and to the Image of our Sauiour and Hyperdouliam to the Image of our Ladie And finally hee reporteth my wordes thus as if I had sayde that the Papistes worship the Images of Saints as the Gentiles did their Gods and pray vnto them where that which I say of prayer followeth after standeth otherwise then hee reporteth Of which maner of dealing if he could haue conuinced me he would haue gone beside himselfe with bragging as now he passeth all his companions not onely in foolerie but also in falsifying and cogging Hauing thus mangled my wordes and left out in the first place the Crosse in the second the Image of our Sauiour and turned both to his pleasure hee had no reason to charge mee with a shamelesse vntruth desperately auouched For that which I say is true neither did I thinke that Owliglasse or any of his consorts would haue denyed a matter so plaine Which because it proceedeth from his ignoraunce I will direct him to his masters that will teach him that the same honour is due to the Image that is due to the originall and that therefore the Image of Christ is to bee worshipped as wee worship Christ and the Image of our Ladie with Hyperdulia and the Images of Saintes with the worship of Doulia as appeareth by the testimonie of Alexander Hales 3. p. quaest 3. art vlt. Thomas Aquinas 3. part quaest 25 art 3. and Caietans Commentarie vpon him Bonauenture and Capreolus in 3. dist 9. Bellarmine also confesseth so much in his Treatise de Imaginibus cap. 20. And that this is as grosse Idolatrie as euer the Gentiles practised it may appeare for that I doe not reade that euer the Gentiles gaue the same honour to Iupiters or Apolloes Images that they gaue to Iupiter and Apollo themselues I say also that as the Gentiles did worship their Images so likewise the Papists doe worship the Images of the Crucifixe the Crosse the Images also of our Ladie and the Saints For first as the Gentiles called on their Idols so the Papistes say to the Crosse O Crux aue spes vnica auge piis iustitiam and to the picture called Veronica salue sancta facies Secondly as the Genttles to their Images gaue the tytles of Iupiter Apollo Mercurie so doe Papists call their Images Saint Peter Saint Dominicke Saint Frideswide Thirdly as the Gentiles did burne incense to their Images so doe the Papists before theirs Finally as the Gentiles did bowe downe to their Images and kisse them and pray before them so doe the Papists fall downe before stockes and stones kisse their Images and pray before them as both the practise of Poperie and the doctrine of the Schoolemen doth shew The Images of our Ladie of Loreto of Monferrat and in England the Image of our Ladie of Walsingham and diuerse Saints shrines doe shewe my wordes to bee most true But sayth Owlyglasse the Councell of Trent
1.7 out of whose cup the nations of the earth haue drunken so many abominations and that the pope should be the louer and spouse of this adulterous and vnchaste congregation argument 26 The true church of Christ is not necessarily tied to the obedience of the church of Rome nor neuer was subiect to his decretaline lawes quae sursum est Hierusalem saith the q Galat. 4. apostle libera est quae est mater nostra so likewise are her children for it is a rule of law if the mother be frée so likewise are her children but the church of Rome is necessarily tied to the obedience of the pope r C. Vnam sanctam extr de maiorit obed Boniface the 8. determineth that it is a point necessary vnto saluation to be subiect to the pope and ſ Lib. de eccles milit c. 2. Bellarmine doth exclude all out of the church of Rome that liue not vnder the subiection of the pope finally it is the common opinion of all papists that such as acknowledge not the popes authority are t Ibidem c. 5. schismatikes is it not then manifest that those that liue vnder the slauery of Antichrist are not the true church argument 27 The church of Christ hath but one iudge and lawgiuer that is able to saue and destroy soules vnus est legislator index saith saint u Iacob 4. Iames qui potest perdere liberare but the church of Rome doth acknowledge the pope for a supreme iudge and lawgiuer and hold that his lawes are of power to binde the conscience as Bellarmine teacheth his disciples lib. 4. de pontif Rom. c. 16. and that is the common opinion of all casuistes and the ground-worke of those that worke on mens consciences can this then be the true church that liueth in such bondage argument 28 The true church neuer commanded christians to make publike confession of their sinnes to the virgin Mary to the archangell Michaell to saint Iohn Baptist or to the holy apoples Peter and Paul and to all the saints of heauen the confessions of saint Augustine are extant and to be séene so likewise are there diuers confessions to be found both in the writings of the fathers and publike liturgies and yet can we not finde any of this nature nay in the forme of the masse prescribed by x Ordo Rom. cap. de forma celebrat missae an ancient order of the Romish church we do not finde that forme of confession that is now vsed neither can Robert Parsons or Bellarmine or any of that faction shew that any christian was wont to say confiteor deo omnipotenti bea●ae Mariae semper virgini beato Michaeli archangelo beato Ioanni Baptistae sanctis apostolis Petro Paulo omnibus sanctis do they not therefore that vse this forme in al their masses shew that they are not the true church that ioine angels and saints with God and séeme to confesse that they know our sinnes and that they are our iudges and haue power to pardon our offences argument 29 Christs true church reteineth no sacraments but such as Christ first instituted and are declared in the apostles writings and that may be prooued by Iustines 2. apology directed to Antoninus by Dionysius supposed to be the Ariopagite and all ancient formes of liturgies for we doe not reade in any of them of more sacraments than two but the popish congregation hath made euangelicall sacraments of matrimony order and penance of which the first two were instituted in the olde testament and the third is an act alwaies necessarie for obteining of remission of sinnes but neuer accounted a sacrament as wanting a sacramentall signe and also ●ormall institution they haue also made sacraments of confirmation and extreme vnction and giuen them both signes forms which notwithstanding were neuer knowen in ancient time are they therefore not likely to prooue a new church that haue instituted diuers new sacraments argument 30 The ancient and true church of Christ neuer beléeued that matrimony and order conteined grace in that sort which the papists teach neither did they beléeue to obteine iustification through confirmation and extreme vnction but the popes church beléeueth that these sacraments doe conferre grace ex opere operato and that héerein they differ from the sacraments of the old law for that the new sacraments doe worke iustification and not the old the first is apparent by Bellarmines discourse de sacrament lib. 2. c. 3. sequent the second by his dispute lib. 2. de sacrament c. 12. sequent neither will any papist deny this let them then shew how men may be iustified by greasing and crossing in extreme vnction and confirmation or else they will appeare to be strangers to Christes church argument 31 The ancient catholike church did y Can. apost 10. concil antioch c. 2. excommunicate such as cōming to church departed before they receiued the communion qui non perseuerauerint in oratione vsque dum missa peragitur say the canons necsanctam communionem percipiunt velut inquietudines ecclesiae mouentes conuenit cōmunione priuari the Romanistes themselues also C. peracta dist 2. de consecrat doe confesse that this was the ancient practise of the church peracta consecratione saith Anacletus omnes communicent qui noluerint ecclesiasticis carere liminibus sic enim apostoli statuerunt sancta Romana tenet ecclesia the same is also confirmed by the testimony of Iustine Martyr apolog 2. of Dionysius de eccles hierarch and other ancient fathers but the church of Rome now doth take them for good cacolickes that will come to masse and looke on She doth not certes excommunicate any for not receiuing the communion doth it not then appeare that the Romish church is not the church of Christ argument 32 The church of Christ did neither vse nor thinke it lawfull to reserue the eucharist in pixes ouer euery altar nor to cary the same about with procession nor to light candles before the pixe nor to bury together with dead bodies either the sacrament of Christes body or the chalice our sauiour Christ z Matth. 26. Luc. 22. 1. Cor. 11. said accipite comedite bibite that is take eate drinke and so forth and the apostles and first christians did receiue and not kéepe the sacrament in pixes but the church of Rome doth quite contrary argument 33 The true church neuer prohibited those that receiued the sacrament of Christes body to receiue the cuppe also neither did good catholickes abstaine from the cuppe hauing rerceiued the sacrament of Christes body a Serm. 4. de quadrages Leo saith they were Manicheyes that receiuing the sacraments tooke the body of Christ but in no wise would drinke the blood of our redemtion and this act he affirmeth to be sacrilegious Gelasius also saith that it is plaine sacrilege to diuide one and the same mystery and receiuing a portion of the sacred
by consent may depart asunder and enter into monasticall religion and that mariages contracted may be dissolued by putting on a monkes or friers coule and lastly that children may abandon their parents and follow Iebusites and other monkes and firiers where vnder pretence of religion they commit all abomination and serue for bardassaes and Ganimedes to this new race of sodomites that this doctrine is new it appeareth by Bellarmines weake dispute of monkes and in my treatise against the stinking orders of friers and monkes which because Cardinall Bellarmine is not now at laisure to answere I would pray Robert Parsons because he taketh on him to be learned or some other of his scholars to vndertake to refute argument 51 The apostles and ancient fathers did neither vse candle salt nor spittle nor that maner of blowing nor greasing that the papists now vse in baptisme and that a man may see without a candle and shall be proued godwilling hereafter when I come to gripe my aduersary that taketh exception to this point argument 52 The ancient church of Christ was neuer wont to coniure salt water nor to say y In missal Rom. c. benedict diuersae exorizo te creatura salis c. vt efficiaris sal exorcizatum in salutem credentium sis omnibus sumentibus te sanitas animae corporis neither did Christians in times past pray that holy water might serue to cast out diuels to driue away diseases and to clense mens houses from vncleane spirits could Robert Parsons be at leisure and leaue dreaming of Cardinals hats he might doe a great pleasure to shew vs this coniuration of salt and holy water out of some holy mens writings argument 53 It is also a mere nouelty if not foolery that the priest sprincles the altar and the whole assistance with water and z Ibidem saith asperges me domine hyssopo mundabor for the water sprinkle is not made of hyssop nor is the priest so honest a man as Dauid nor can drops of water clense his faults argument 54 It is also in Christian religion a nouelty to consecrate the flesh of paschal lambes and cannot be proued to haue bene long practised in the Romish church but now since the priests of Baal are proued shéepe stealers they to satisfie the owners losses consecrate the flesh of lambs argument 55 The a In ordinar missae blessing also of incense by the intercession of Michael the archangel as the papists vse it in their masse sauoreth not onely of superstition but also of nouelty argument 56 The swinging also of the chalice and host about the priests head and crossing of all sides of both as it is in the missall of Sarum and partly in the Romish missal is both superstitious and new argument 57 The ancient fathers neuer taught that either the body and blood of Christ were really vnder the accidents of bread and wine or that the accidents of bread and wine did subsist without a subiect for that was first decréed in the councell of Constance though idelly talked of before argument 58 Neither did they euer imagine that a dogge or a hogge or a mouse swallowing a consecrate host did also swallow Christ Iesus God and man and his very body as some of the schoolemen teach for that were not onely to cast precious stones before hogges but to blaspheme the most holy name of Iesus and to bring Christian religion into contempt argument 59 They neuer beléeued that Christs true body was inuisible and impalpable for well they remembred Christes words to his disciples Videte palpate but how can this be truely said if as the papists teach he were in the sacrament inuisible and impalble argument 60 In the fathers writings we neuer read where this word species doth signifie lightnesse roundnesse smoothnesse hardnesse swéetnesse relish and all other accidents of the sacramentall signes as the papists beléeue and teach argument 61 The doctrine of Transubstantiation was first established by b C. firmiter de sum trenit fide cath Innocent the third and his consorts about the yéere of our Lord 1212. this mystery therefore of transubstantiation is not so ancient argument 62 The ancient fathers did neuer beléeue that euery masse-priest did worke thrée seuerall miracles as oft as he did consecrate as the authors of the Tridentine catechisme do teach argument 63 Nor did they beléeue that the same humane body was in heauen in earth and euery altar all at one time as our papists that are more corporall than spirituall teach argument 64 In the ancient church those that receiued the sacrament of the Lords body receiued also the cup. neither is the prohibition of the cup more ancient than the wicked councell of Constance argument 65 Then also the priest neuer receiued alone nor did Christians looke on while the priest ate and dranke all for this was contrary to Christes institution and the nature of the sacrament that was instituted for a c 1. Cor. 10. signe of our mutuall coniunction one with another and the contrary custome is refuted by all ancient liturgies but now the priest eateth and drinketh all alone by himselfe and the rest depart fasting or at the least without the sacrament of the cup. argument 66 In ancient time the Lords supper was accounted no sacrifice for quicke and dead but a holy sacrament wherein a memoriall of Christes sacrifice on the crosse is celebrated as S. Augustine teacheth and I haue shewed at large in my treatise De missa against Bellarmine but now as if Christ had not said take eat drinke they offer it for those that can neither take nor eat nor drinke argument 67 The ancient church had no seuerall masses for warre for peace for bridegromes for mariners for hogges for the plague and for all times and occasions as now the d Missal Rom. Paris Sarum Romanists haue argument 68 There were no masses in the primitiue church made in honor of saints of angels of the virgine Mary nay in the old formulary of the church of Rome some seuen hundred or eight hundred yéeres agone there are no masses of this new cut argument 69 The parts of the masse were framed piecemeale long after the age of the learned fathers of the church as I haue prooued in my fift booke De missa against Bellarmine which I recommend to Robert Parsons for a cordiall or a scarlet stomacher to warme himselfe withall requesting him to shape vs an answere argument 70 The sacrament of the Lords supper in olde time was neuer administred in a tongue not vnderstood for that is the late pleasure of the trenchant fathers of Trent argument 71 The ancient fathers neuer praied to our Lady after the new Romish fashion nor said Sancta Maria ora pro nobis nunc in hora mortis nor thought it lawfull to say e Breuiar Rom. offic beatae Mariae Maria mater gratiae mater misericordiae
body was taken vp into heauen the apostle Peter also Act. 3. declareth that the heauens must conteine him vntill the time that all things be restored and this the ancient fathers which the aduersaries will not denie to haue béene good catholikes doe cléerely expresse according to his diuine nature saith i Tractat. 33. in Matth. Origen he is not absent from vs but he is absent according to the dispensation of his body which he tooke Saint k Lib. 10. in Luc. 24. Ambrose saith that we are not to seeke Christ either on the earth or in the earth or after the flesh if we meane to finde him Saint l Tractat. 50. in Ioan. Augustine saith he hath caried his body into heauē although he hath not withdrawne his maiesty from the world m Homil. 21. in euangel Gregory the first also doeth plainely affirme that Christ is not heere on earth according to the presence of his flesh the flesh of Christ saith n Lib. 4. contr Eutych Vigilius writing against Eutyches when it was on earth surely was not in heauen and now because it is in heauen certeinly it is not on earth neither did euer any catholike father teach otherwise are the papists then catholikes trow you that contrary to the catholike fathers and catholike faith teach that Christes true bodie is both in heauen and in earth and vpon euery altar at one time and doe you call them catholikes that affime that Christs true body properly may not onely be touched and receiued into mens mouthes but also deuoured of dogges and mise and other beasts that eate consecrated hostes argument 18 All true catholikes firmely beléeue that their sinnes are forgiuen them for Christes sake and that they shall obteine eternall life according to these two articles of the Créed I beleeue the remission of sinnes and life euerlasting for as the apostle saith Heb. 6. God hath promised and sworne that we should haue firme comfort and saint o 1 Iohn 5. Iohn saith these things I write vnto you that beleeue in the name of God that you may know that you haue eternall life and whosoeuer beléeueth not this as p Ibidem he testified maketh God a liar The apostle q Rom. 5. Paule saith that he that is iustified by faith hath peace with God but what peace can we haue vnlesse we beléeue that our sinnes are forgiuen and that assuredly we shall obteine eternall life the sacraments also that are deliuered to euerie Christian are seales of remission of sinnes and of the promise of eternall life for by Baptisme we put on Christ that is we are made members of his body and partakers of his merits and in the Lords supper our Sauiour teacheth vs that the cup is the new Testament in his blood and that Christs body was broken for euery one that is a woorthy receiuer this doctrine is also confirmed by the examples of Abraham and the apostle Paule of Abraham we r Rom. 4. reade that he doubted not of the promise of God and that the same was imputed to him for righteousnesse the apostle ſ Rom. 8. saith that he was perswaded that nothing should separate him from the loue of God and this assurance of remission of sinnes and eternall life the catholike fathers teach vs. Si iustus es fide viuis saith t Serm. 4. de mortalit Cyprian si verè in Christum credis cur non cum Christo futurus de domini pollicitatione securus amplecteris u Ibidem againe he saith that we are not to wauer or doubt for that God hath promised vs immortality Saint x Serm. 2●… de verb. dom Augustine writing vpon these words thy sinnes are forgiuen thee saith it is faith and not pride to acknowledge what we haue receiued y Serm. 2. de anno●… Bernard saith that we haue no promise but by Gods fauour and that the spirit of God worketh this in vs that we beleeue remission of sinnes and this doe all true catholikes beléeue how then can the papists be catholikes that will haue men onely to hope for remission of sinnes and eternall life and that not without doubting or what are we to hope of the z Sess 6. doctors of Trent that prouounce them accursed that shall say that a man must certeinly beleeue that his sinnes are forgiuen him finally how shall we beléeue that those are true beléeuers that teach Christians not to beleeue remission of sinnes or eternall life but to doubt of both argument 19 All true catholikes beléeue that the faithfull presently vpon their departure out of this life are happy and enter into ioies that neuer shall haue end as the wicked and vnbeléeuers are presently to enter into euerlasting fire and begin to suffer endlesse paines these shall goe into euerlasting paine and the righteous shall presently possesse the kingdome of heauen prepared for them as may appeare by the sentence of our sauior Matth. 25. the a Rom. 8. apostle doth also plainly testifie that there is no condemnation to those that are in Christ Iesus the spirit of God doth likewise b Apocal. 14. pronounce them blessed that die in the Lord. and the reason is added for that they rest from their labours and this likewise is the faith of the catholicke fathers c Ecclesiast hierarch c. 7. Dionyse saith that the godly when they come to the end of their liues shall rest in Abrahams bosome and signifieth that there shall be no griefe nor sadnesse nor sighing d Quaest 75. Iustine Martyr holdeth that the soules of good men shall presently be caried into paradise both e Lib. 1. aduers haeres c. 2. Irenaeus and f Serm. de mortalit Cyprian likewise make onely two sorts of soules departed whereof the first are in blisse the second in paines and endlesse misery and that is also confirmed by the confession of our aduersaries in the canon of the masse where they pray for those that sleepe in a sleepe of peace but the papists teach that all that haue not satisfied here for temporall punishments must be plonged in the vnspeakable paines of purgatory and so after a time passe to heauen argument 20 All catholicks beléeue that Christ hath reconciled vs to his father and that he hath satisfied for our sinnes fully and perfectly the g Isay 53. prophet saith that we are healed by his stripes ipse volneratus est saith he propter iniquitates nostras attritus est propter scelera nostra disciplina pacis nostrae super eum we may therefore well accounpt them no catholicks that h Bellar. lib. 1. de purgat teach that Christians are to satisfie for the temporall punnishment of their owne sinnes either here or in purgatory the which is no where deliuered by the fathers of the church argument 21 True catholicks neuer made the image of God the father or the holy ghost nor did euer the godly
the law the prophet also doeth shew that our righteousnesse is like a defiled cloth of an vncleane woman neither can this distinction of first and second iustice or that wicked doctrine that followeth of it be found in all the fathers argument 41 In the sacraments also most fouly they haue digressed from the catholicke saith y Apolog. ad Antonin Iustin Martyr where he hath occasion to describe the sacraments and rites of the first church doth onely mention two sacraments this number also may be prooued by the testimony of Ireney Dionysius Tertullian lib. 1. 4. contr Marcionem Ambroses books of sacraments Cyrilles catechisticall instructions and all the fathers that in no place mention 7. sacraments nor compare any rite or sacrament to baptisme and the Lords supper Pauca pro multis saith z Lib. 3. de doctr Christ c. 9. Augustine eademque factu facillima intellectu augustissima conseruatione castissima ipse dominus apostolica tradidit disciplina sicut est baptismi sacramentum celebratio corporis sanguinis domini and this may be proued also by the weake dispute of Bellarmine for his 7. sacraments who is not able to bring either good argument or testimony for his opinion argument 42 The councell of a Sess 6. c. 1. Trent doth anathematize all that hold that the 7. sacraments of the Romish church were not all instituted by Christ Iesus or that there are either more or lesse then iust 7 which doctrine if Robert Parsons can proue to be catholicke let him take a cardinals hat which he hath so long desired for his labour his friends doe much doubt of his good successe in this matter for they finde that matrimony was instituted in paradise and that repentance hath alwaies béene in the church priesthood was either established by the law of Moyses or else then by lawes and rites adorned confirmation and extreme vnction were neither instituted by Christ nor déemed necessary or ordinany rites by the church as the silence of fathers that speake of the sacraments of the church may teach vs. argument 43 In the sacrament of baptisme the papists vse exorcismes blowings salt spitle hallowed water anointings light and diuers ceremonies neither vsed by the apostles nor practised by the ancient church now in the b C. Benedict fontis missales they pray that the font may be sanctified and made fruitfull with the oile of saluation to those that shall be regenerate by it to life then the priest powreth in oile and chrisme in forme of the crosse they also sprincle all the assistants with holy water out of the font and none of all these ceremonies they c Sess 7. c. 13. concil Trid. say may be omitted without sinne if then Robert Parsons cannot proue these ceremonies to haue bene either ancient or generally vsed he cannot deny but the papists are no catholicks argument 44 They denounce them acursed that shall not hold baptisme to be necessary to saluation which curse and doctrine cannot be sound in ancient catholicke fathers nay we read in ancient writers that not the want but the contempt of baptisme condemneth and the d Bellar. lib. 1. de baptis c. 6. papists to mollifie this hard sentence haue found diuers meanes to supply baptisme argument 45 They dissolue mariage contracted by entring into monkish religion although both the parties consent not and after mariage consummated they holde that maried couples may depart asunder and that it shall not be lawfull for them afterward as man and wife to company together which doctrine is neither catholicke nor true for e Matth. 19. what man can seperate them whom God hath ioined together againe what reason haue maried couples kéeping asunder for exercise of deuotion not to come together againe séeing the apostle commandeth such to returne and cohabite together least Satan should tempt them Iterum f 1. Cor. 7. saith he reuertimini in idipsum ne tentet vos Satanas argument 46 They seperate also mariages for spirituall kinred and force priests monks and friers to forsweare mariage yet can they not shew that catholicke religion forbiddeth spirituall gossips to entermary nor that monkish vowes and abiurations of mariages haue bene allowed in the ancient church and by catholicke doctors nay where God g Leuit. 18. appointeth limits and degrées within which it is not lawfull to marry there is no signification that spirituall gossips are forbidden to entermarry and the apostle signifieth that mariage is honorable among all sorts of men and the bed of maried folks vndefiled happie were popish priests and votaries if they were able to say that their beds and bodies were vndefiled argument 47 They beléeue that penance standeth vpon contrition confession and satisfaction and that these thrée are the parts of it and yet themselues say that absolution is the forme of penance and that confession is not alwaies necessary the catholicke church certes did neuer thinke either auricular confession or publicke satisfaction inioined by priests to be required necessarily in repentance argument 48 They h Sess 14. concil Trid. pronounce him anathema that beléeueth not that penance is properly a sacrament of the new law or that denieth auricular confession in the priests eares to haue béene instituted by Christ in the new testament and yet are they not able to shew that any catholike father saith that our Sauiour Christ in the new testament did institute the act of repentance nor can they denie that the people of God vnder the law vsed to repent themselues of their sinnes nor can they shew any place where Christians were commanded to confesse their sinnes to the priest and were otherwise excluded from all hope of pardon nay they cannot shew that any was tied to confession in the Romish church before Innocents decretale beginning omnis vtriusque sexus de poenit remiss and in the Gréeke church there was neuer any such course established as for the power which monkes and friers claim in hearing of confessions that dependeth wholly vpon the popes grant beneuolence and authority argument 49 They i Concil Trid. sess 13. c. 1. teach that our Sauiour Christes body that was borne of the virgine Mary and crucified on the crosse is properly and substantially present vnder the accidents of bread and likewise that his blood is conteined really and properly vnder the accidents of wine as may be séene in the acts of the conuenticle of Trent but true catholikes beléeue that his body is k M●… vlt. act 1. taken vp into heauen and that concerning his bodily presence he hath left the earth and that his blood is in the veines of his body and not properly shedde foorth in the chalice further they know that when we are commanded to eat Christes flesh and to drinke his blood we are to vnderstand it and to doe it spiritually and not carnally as doe the Canibales and that Christ when he said this is my
In offic beat Mariae to a woodden crosse increase in the godly righteousnesse and pardon sinners and also crux Christi protege me crux Christi defende me ab omni malo and which before the printed face which they call Volto santo pray thus Salue sancta facies impresta panniculo nos ab omni macula purga vitiorum atque nos consortio iunge beatorum argument 62 Catholikes beléeue that their sacrifices of praise are accepted through Christ but papists beléeue that Christes bodie is accepted through the mediation of the priest and of saints the priest in the canon beséecheth God to looke fauourably vpon the body and blood of Christ Supra quae saith he propitio ac sereno vultu respicere digneris and in the missal of Sarum on Batildis day they pray that God would accept their sacrifice viz. of Christes body and blood through the merits of S. Batildis vt haec munera tibi Domine accepta sint say they sanctae Batildis obtineant merita quae seipsam tibi hostiam viuam sanctam bene placentem exhibuit argument 63 Catholikes beléeue that the apostles and their successours receiued the keyes of the kingdome of heauen and power to binde and loose onely vpon earth but the papists beléeue that the pope hath receiued the keyes of the kingdome of hell and purgatory Damascen and other authors of Romish legends tell vs that Gregory the first deliuered Traians soule out of hel and euery pety pope thinketh he is abused if any tell him that he can not let out of purgatory as many as he pleaseth Commonly all papists pray for the dead that they may haue a place of rest giuen them and that their sinnes may be pardoned them as if sinnes might be forgiuen after this life argument 64 Catholikes neither worshipped saints departed nor their images nor the crosse of Christ Hierome in an epistle to Ripatius denieth that any creature is to be worshipped or adored d Lib. 22. deciuit Dei c. 10. Augustine sheweth that Christians did not worship martyrs nor erect temples in honor of them and saith that they gaue thanks and praise vnto God onely at their monuments ecclesia catholica mater Christianorum verissima saith e De morib eccles lib. 1. c. 30. he solum ipsum deum cuius adeptio vita est beatissima purissimè atque castisimè colendum praedicat nullam nobis adorandam creaturam inducens cui seruire iubeamur whereby plainly he excludeth the worship of Doulia f De obitu Theodosij Ambrose declareth that Helene finding the crosse worshipped not the crosse but Christ but the papists worship not onely the saints but dumbe images they say masses in honor of S. Francis and S. Dominicke and diuers other saints they knéele to images and burne incense vnto them finally they giue Latriam that is due by their owne confession to God only to the crosse to the crucifix and to the images of the Trinity argument 65 True catholicks neuer made the images of God the father or the holy trinity nor did thinke it lawfull to worship them with diuine worship but the papists both make such images and allow such worship to be giuen to them argument 66 True catholicks neuer had any psalter in honor of our blessed Lady nor vsed to say a hundred and 50. Auemariaes and after euery fifty Auemariaes one Creed and after euery tenne Auemaries one Pater Noster nay our sauiour expressly forbad his desciples to vse battologies and odious repetitions in their praiers But papists put great religion in our Ladies psalter and in their rosaries and often repetitions of the name of Iesu and of their Auemariaes argument 67 True catholicks neuer coniured salt nor holy water nor oile nor chrisme nor superstitiously sanctified candles crosses and images in such sort as the papists vse to doe neither did they grease stone alters or describe the Gréeke alphabet on the pauement of churches to be consecrated or abuse the scriptures as the papists doe in that act as may appeare by the formulary commonly vsed in such cases that ancient catholicks neuer vsed any such ceremonies it may appeare by the writings of the fathers and also in old rituall books for in them such formes of consecrations exorcizations and such abuses are not to be found argument 68 True g Iohn 4. catholicks worship God in spirit and trueth but the papists place most of Gods worship in externall ceremonies and vse in their worship a tong not vnderstood so that their praiers cannot procéed from the spirit nor be true nor catholicke argument 69 True catholicks neuer worshipped angels h Coloss 2. the apostle Paule doth expressly condemne the worship of them as Chrysostome Theodoret Oecumenius writing vpon the 2. and 3. chap. of the epistle to the Colossians do testifie the councell of Laodicea doth also prohibit the worship of Angels and Saint i De hares c. 39. Augustine numbreth the worshippers of Angels among hereticks Neither may we thinke that they were therefore condemned because they atrtibuted the creation of the world to angels but because they worshipped angels and as Chrysostome homil 7. in coloss 2. affirmeth thought we were to come to God by the mediation of angels and yet papists k Horae ad vsum sacrum pray to angels that they would protect them and driue diuils from them and open their sight they say also masses in their honor set vp lights to them make confession of their sinns to them and all this contrary to the practise of the ancient catholicke church argument 70 Our l Matth. 15. sauiour Christ teacheth that those worship God in uaine which worship him according to the doctrines and commandements of men and therefore all true catholicks haue had principall respect herein to the commandements and lawes of God but the Romish church doth wholy depend vppon the decretales of popes and vaine fancies of men their missals breuiaries offices and whole seruice procéedeth from no other fountaine argument 71 The m Psal 32. prophet declareth that they are blessed whose iniquities are forgiuen and whose sinns are couered and the apostle saith that being instified by faith we haue peace with god and this is the hope of all catholicks that Christ hath reconciled vs to his father and washed away our sinnes and paid a ransome for them on the crosse but this comfort papists doe take from vs that teach and holde that after our sinnes forgiuen we are to satisfie for temporall paines due for our sinnes either here or in purgatory and that such are there to sustaine great torments in which paines and place none but mad men can place felicity argument 72 Catholicks beléeue that through faith we are made partakers of Christs satisfaction the papists beléeue that the pope can apply them by his bulles both in purgatory and in this life according to his lawes argument 73 Catholicks beléeue that no man can satisfie for his
coronae Ignis thura preces coelum est venale detisque Benedict the 9. sold his popedome for a great summe of mony and al the world knoweth that without simoniacall compacts no man can enter into that seat they sell mens sinnes and for money they offer to sell heauen the priests sell masses as deare as they can albeit such marchandise be now decried and of little woorth for which cause Brigit inueigheth bitterly against them and saith they are woorse then Iudas deteriores sunt Iuda saith u Brigit 132. onus ecclesae 23. Christ in Brigits reuelations qui pro solis denariis me vendidit illi autem pro omni mercimonio so it séemeth that these are the merchants of which mention is made Apocalyps 18. which sell mens soules beside that the canonists dispute that it is lawfull for the pope to buy and sell benefices palles and mitres and Bellarmine with all his skill mainteineth the sale of Iubileies and other indulgences of Simon Magus also x De haeres c. 1. Augustine affirmeth quod docebat detestandam turpitudinem indifferenter vtendi foeminis quod imagines suam Helenes praebebat discipulis suis adorandas that is he taught it was no sinne to vse women without making difference betwixt wife concubine and whoore for that is the signification of the word indifferenter and gaue his owne image the image of his leman Selena to be worshipped of his disciples finally he carried a concubine about with him called Selena let it therefore be iudged with indifferency whether the papists haue not some touch of these hereticall tricks who in Rome and all great cities almost mainteine common bordels and y They put adultery and fornication in the ranke of lesser crimes c. at siclerici de iudicijs account lechery a small sinne whose priests commonly kéepe concubines and finally which worship the images of diuers lecherous priests and their whoores canonised by the pope for saints as Dunstane and Alfgina Bernac and his leman and many others and albeit we are not able to say much for the honesty of Francis and Clare yet it is apparent that the papists worship their images so it appeareth that the first foundation of the worship of images was laied either by Simon Magus or by Carpocrates and Marcellina and other heretikes of Simon Magus also it may be they borrow their exorcisations for they are rather magicall than Christian like as appeareth by them as they are set downe in Hierome Menghus a disciple as it séemeth of Simon Magus argument 7 The Basilidians were reputed heretikes for that they worshipped images and vsed enchantments and superstitious adiurations for that is prooued by the testimony of z Lib. 1. aduers haeres c. 23. Irenaeus how then can the papists wipe away the blot of heresie that not onely priuately worship images but also fill euery corner of their churches full of them and like the statues of Mercury set them vp in high waies they doe also coniure and enchant water saying exorcizo te creatura aquae and salt saying exorcizo te creatura salis as if the creatures were possessed or corrupted by diuels likewise they coniure and enchant candles hearbes and make exorcistes and coniurers a holie order and that order a sacrament of the church argument 8 a Iren●y lib. 1. c. 24. Carpocrates vsed to worship images and Marcellina one of his followers adored the images of Iesu and Paule and burnt incense vnto them Colebat saith b De bares c. 7. Augustine imagines Iesu Pauli Homeri Pythagorae adorando incensumque ponendo if then this were heresie in them why should it not be heresie in papists to worship the image of Iesu with diuine worship and to burne incense not onely before the images of Iesu and Paule but also before other petie saints and percase no saints if the image of Christ Iesu and Paule might not be adored how come the images of Christopher and saint Catherine that neuer were in the world of George that was an heretike and Thomas Becket and Campian that were traitors to be adored and honored with light and incense argument 9 The Carpocratians and Basilidians did conceale and hide the mysteries of their religion least holy things should be cast to dogges as may appeare partly by the testimony of Irenaeus aduersus haeres lib. 1. c. 23. and Epiphanius intreating of the 24. and 27. heresie and what doe the papists doe not they reherse the words of the canon so that no man can heare and doe they not keepe the mysteries of their religion secret when they c Nauarri enthirid Alagona teach that it is mortall sinne for lay men to dispute of matters of faith and reade scriptures and the publike liturgy in tongues not vnderstood of the hearers finally haue not diuers of them alledged that the reason why scriptures are not translated into vulgar tongues nor in that tongue read publikly is because holy things are not to be cast to dogs argument 10 The Marcosians did baptise in an vnknowen language and anoint those whom they baptised with chrisme or opobalsamum that is testified by Epiphanius haeres 34. this by Irenaeus aduers haeres lib. 1. c. 18. they did also anoint their dead and giue them extreme vnction Marcus their founder went about to make his followers beleeue that he did transubstantiate wine into blood in the sacrament In that which he calleth the eucharist saith d Haeres 34. Epiphanius they say that the rednesse viz. of the wine is changed straightwaies into blood The followers of Marcus accounted themselues perfect but as e Lib. 1. aduers haeres c. 15. Irenaeus saith perfectus nemo nisi qui maxima mendacia apud eos fructificauerit Finally they alledge a multitude of apocryphall writings forged by themselues as Ireney testifieth of them lib. 1. aduers haeres c. 18. all which points of heresie the papists séeme to haue translated into their religion for first they baptize in a language not vnderstood of the multitude next they vse greasing and anointing in baptisme and confirmation thirdly they grease their disciples when they lie on dying fourthly they beléeue that wine in the Lords cup by certeine words of consecration is transubstantiate into blood fitly their orders of religion doe account themselues to be in state of perfection but the most perfect of them which are emploied by the pope in defence of the popish faction and religion do fructifie plenteously in telling of greatest lies as we shall in his place exemplifie by Bellarmine a cardinall and Robert Parsons in hope and desire a cardinall and a most famous forger of lies his putatiue father father Coobucke they say could not with more art forge a horseshoo than he can forge a lie Finally for proofe of their traditions and doctrine they haue forged diuers decretale epistles and counterfeit canons and haue written diuers lying legends Parsons to trouble
whatsoeuer a man doeth out of his owne fancy set vp for God that may by good construction well be termed an idole or a false God The assumption is prooued by diuers particulars for first it is plaine that the papists make the sacrament of the Lordes body and blood their Lord and God both in that they call it so and in that they g Rubric can Missae fall downe and worship it secondly they call vpon angels saints and specially vpon the virgine Marie thirdly they put their trust in them fourthly they make vowes vnto them fiftly they confesse their sinnes vnto them finally they bow downe their bodies before them and publikely worship them as is prooued by their common practise the Rubrickes also of their missals and breuiaries and ladies offices together with their blasphemous praiers made to angels saints and other creatures doe shew the same to bée most true but the scriptures doe h Hierem. 17. testifie first that we are to put our trust in God onely secondly that we are to call on him i Psal 50. Ioel. 2. Rom. 10. faithfully thirdly that we are to make our k Isai 19. vowes to him onely fourthly that we are religiously to serue him onely and finally that we are to confesse our sinnes to God onely l Matth. 4. and to giue religious worship to none but to him alone And this the practise of the ancient church most euidently confirmeth which neuer allowed receiued nor vsed to yéeld any such profane worship to angels saints or other creatures as the papists giue vnto them as in the first chapter of this discourse hath at large béene prooued superstitiosi sunt qui multos ac falsos deos colunt saith m Lib. 4. instit c. 28. Lactantius nos religiosi qui vni vero deo supplicamus those are superstitious which worship many and false gods we are religious which call vpon one true God the papists percase will answer that they worship not either false gods or many gods but séeing they giue the worship of God to many and call vpon creatures and make vowes vnto them and build churches and altars in their honour and doe ascribe to them that which is proper to God they cannot by any meanes auoid the charge of plurality of gods for euen the n Macrob. Sa●…tnal Gentiles can answer that they draw all to one God yet because they attributed diuine power to creatures and inferiour persons therefore no man will deny but that they worshipped many gods therefore o Libr. 3. de cultu sanct c. 9. Bellarmine saith plainly quod votum non conuenit sanctis nisi quatenus sunt dij per participationem that is that vowes are not to be made to saints but as they are gods by participation may it not then be truely said that papists worship strange gods yes certes and if they deny it they are strange felowes argument 2 p Argu. 2. Almighty God doth also forbid his people to make any grauen image or likenesse of anything either in heauen aboue or in the earth below or in the water vnder the earth q Exod. 20. to the intent to bow downe to it and to worship it non facies tibi sculptile neque omnem similitudinem quae est in coelo desuper quae in terra deorsum nec eorum quae sunt in aquis sub terra non adorabis ea neque coles if then it be not lawfull to make sculptile or a grauen image to the end to worship it and if those that doe worship such grauen images be idolaters no question is to be made but that papists are grosse idolaters for they make the images of God in heauen of men that somtime liued on the earth and of some that percase now may be in hell they make also grauen and molten images of angels and other creatures and fall downe and worship them to the crosse they pray and r Breuiar Rom. ● say auge pijs iustitiam reisque dona veniam that is increase righteousnesse in the godly and grant pardon to sinners the schoolemen holde that what worship is due to the originall is due also to the picture or image so saith Alexander Hales part 3. q. 30. art vlt. Thomas Aquinas 3. p. q. 25. art 3. and Caietan in his commentaries vpon him so then by these mens doctrines the Crucifixe is to be worshipped with like worship as we doe worship Christ Iesus and the image of God is to be worshipped with the worship due to God himselfe and this is so plaine idolatry that ſ Lib. 2. de imaginib c. 22. Bellarmine is constrained to deny that Latria or diuine worship is due to images properly so albeit he would excuse himselfe yet in effect he maketh himselfe to be an idolater improperly all the ancient schoolemen and synagogue of Rome for this 2. or 3. hundred yeares properly for Hierome condemneth them for idolaters that worshipped the statues or images of Emperors albeit the same may séeme a ciuill ceremony iudices principes seculi saith t In cap. 3 Daniel he qui imperatorum statuas adorant imagines hoc se facere intelligāt quod tres pueri facere nolentes placuerunt deo how then can they escape his censure that fall downe before the statues and images of saints and there pray before them and offer incense to them argument 3 u Argu. 3. We are also forbidden expresly to make any similitude or likenesse of God and a reason is x Deut. 4. added for that God speaking to his people out of the fire in Mount Horeb yet they saw no likenesse of any thing and this God did least his people being deceiued should make an image of male or female or other thing and so adore and worship it if then it be against the commandement of God to represent him in any shape and to adore any creature whether male or female spirituall or corporall then are papists grosse idolaters that make images of God and worship both male and female saints as appeareth both by the canon of the masse and also by their doctrine and practise nay they doe not onely bow their bodies to them but also set vp lightes and offer vp spirituall sacrifices of praiers vnto them argument 4 In y Argu. 4. most plaine termes also z Leuit. 26. God prohibiteth the making of idols or grauen images and the erecting of monuments or titles or stones for signals to be worshipped non facietis vobis idolum sculptile saith the Lord nec titulos erigetis nec insignem lapidem ponetis in terra vestra vt adoretis eum neither was there any thing intended in this law then that the people of Israel should be restrained from idolatry is it not then plaine that such as make idols and grauen images and erect crosses and stocks and stones to be worshipped are idolaters it cannot well be denied but percase our
you haue caried about the tabernacle erected to Moloch the image of your idole gods the starre of your god which you made to your selues what then may we thinke of papists if we scanne their false worship of God according to this rule doe not they also place their corpus domini which they call their lord and god in a pixe or tabernacle doe they not carie him also about in procession and with him for company other idoles of wood and mettall doe they not also worship the holy virgin Marie and salute her and call her a starre and say aue Maris stella haile thou starre of the sea alluding percase to Venus whom poets faine to haue her beginning of the sea and doe not the Spaniards call on her at sea as if God had made her a commander there argument 10 The prophets words of the heathen mens idoles do most excellently fit the popish images the l Simulachra images of the Gentiles saith m Psal 114. he are siluer and gold the worke of mens hands they haue mouthes and speake not they haue eies and see not they haue eares and heare not they haue noses and smell not hands they haue and handle not feet haue they and walke not neither doeth any voice passe through their throat apply then this to the great image of great saint Christopher as you enter our ladies church at Paris for albeit the same be great and large yet he neither séeth nor féeleth nor smelleth nor speaketh nor walketh onely the priests are sory that he is not of siluer and gold that they might cut him in pieces and make money of him our lady of Loret also albeit women be more talkatiue then men speaketh not a word diuers images also they haue of siluer and gold and other mettals but all without sence and motion vnlesse by engins the false masse priests be able to make them mooue the p Chap. 15. author of the booke of Wisdome sheweth that the sight of such images and pictures well shadowed out in colours doeth delight sencelesse and brutish folke which doe also loue the shape of dead images without soule but that the godly are not abused with such idolatrous inuentions and pictures or labour without frute non in errorem induxit nos saith he in the person of godly men hominum malae artis exogitati nec vmbra picturae labor sine fructu effigies sculpta per varios colores cuius aspectus insensato dat concupiscentiam diligit mortuae imaginis effigiem sine anima are not then the papists more blockish then the old idolaters that take such delight in their painted tables and in their images without soule yea oftentimes without good or decent shape and are not our masse priests madde that runne to the pope and for loue of his idolatrous religion are content to breake their necks in England practising for his seruice argument 11 p Argu. 11. The offrings of the Gentiles are immolated and offred to diuels and not to God as the q 1. Cor. 10. apostle teacheth vs quae immolant Gentes saith he daemoniis immolant non deo it cannot therefore serue the papists turne that they say they worship God in his image improperly secundum rei veritatem saith r De imagin lib. 2. c. 22. Bellarmine non potest dici adorari latria imaginem nisi per accidens vel improprie per se autem propriè nullo modo this I say albeit contrary to all the best schoolemens doctrine can not excuse the papists from idolatry for albeit the Gentiles did not per se and properly immolate sacrifices to idoles and diuels yet because they sacrificed before idoles and in other sort than God had commanded the apostle calleth this the diuels sacrifice I would therefore exhort all simple papists to beware how they come at the idolatrous masse for albeit their priests tell them that they offer vp the bodie and blood of the sonne of God yet in trueth they offer the diuels sacrifice and say masse in honor of their idoles and before images and can no better excuse themselues than heathen idolaters that might aswell as they say they worshipped not their images with latria per se and properly but in a certeine sort improperly the apostle doth plainly declare that both heathen men they sacrificing in this sort offer to diuels not to god argument 12 ſ Arg. 12. God signifieth them to be idolaters that built high places which he neuer commanded them nor thought of any such matter Quae non praecepi nec cogitaui in corde meo saith t Hierem. 7. he and this because they thought that God was to be serued according to their owne inuentions and humors he doth also directly charge them with idolatrie that made vowes to the Queene of heauen that sacrificed vnto her and serued her saying faciamus vota nostra quae vouimus vt sacrificemus reginae coeli And do not papists build their altars in high places ascend vnto them by steps doe they not also worship God in images and formes which God neuer commaunded nor thought vpon doe they not further call the holy virgine reginam coeli and poli reginam that is the Queene of heauen doe they not finally say masses in honor of her and offer consecrated hosts for her swéet seruice euery Saturday argument 13 u Arg. 13. The papists also giue the honor due to God vnto grauen images teaching that the same worship is due vnto the image and to the originall and that as Thomas and the olde schoolewen holde absolutely and without distinction and as Bellarmine beléeueth improperly and as he termeth it by an accident but this is contrary to scriptures and can not be déemed lesse than plaine idolatry I am the Lord saith x Isai 42. God by his prophet and my glory I will not giue to another nor my praise to grauen images Ego Dominus saith he gloriam meam alteri non dabo laudem meam sculptilibus gladly I would therefore haue Rob. Parsons to shew how grauen images may be worshipped with diuine honor yet without repugnance to scripture or derogation to Gods honor or touch of idolatrie argument 14 y Arg. 14. Like to the Babylonians the papists deale with their images the images also of papists are not much vnlike to the idoles of the Babylonians the Babylonians carried their golden siluer wooden and stone gods on their shoulders Videbitis saith z Baruch 6. Baruch in Babylonia deos aureos argenteos lapideos ligneos in humeris portari The papists likewise they haue images which they worship as God some of golde some of siluer some parcell gilt some of wood some of stone and in processions they carry them about triumphantly on mens shoulders Inaurata inargentata falsa sunt non possunt loqui saith Baruch of the idoles of the Babylonians so likewise there is
obseruation againe desire me to procure him a free conference but what shall that néede when I yéeld him more then is desired Notwithstanding if he thinke to winne any thing at my hands by conference let him procure me first a frée conference at Paris and Salamanca and I doe promise to procure him a frée conference at Cambridge and Oxford In the meane while I pray him I prouoke him I by all means vrge him to answere in writing such lies as I auerre his consorts to haue made and to cleare the Church of Rome and her principall proctors of such notorious falsifications as I say they haue committed If he be not able as indéede I take him to be altogither vnsufficient let Robert Parsons Frier Garnet or the Archpriest answere and maintaine the quarrell which this idle compagnion hath begun And let them set their names to their writings and come foorth with bare faces that wee may know what they are we deale with and not as hitherto fight with N.D.E.O. and such like hollowe fellowes and meere shadowes If not let them assure themselues I wil by publike writing discouer such a packe of impostures lies falsifications villanies and treasons committed by Rob. Parsons and his consorts that they shall wish Owlyglasse hanged that first prouoked me and beganne this quarrell I will also make it knowne that they are so guiltie that they cannot answere His second obseruation is that no credit is to bee giuen vnto me concerning matter of fact because in matters of faith and learning as he saith I make no scruple to corrupt and vse broad falsification But his collection is so childish and foppish that his owne clients if they list may sée that he knoweth not what concerneth fact and what concerneth faith and learning that distingusheth learning from matter of fact as if no learning were required of Ro. Parsons to discusse matters of fact and would make f●ith and learning both one as if his consorts that take themselues to be learned were also faithfull christians and teacheth that the controuersie concerning falsifications and vntruthes obiected by him toucheth faith and not fact as if we did not as well contend about matter of fact as faith in this idle quarell begonne by our aduersarie and wherein the state of the mayne controuersie is whether I haue spoken vntruth or not and whether I haue falsified any authors alledged by me or not Secondly if no credit be giuen to those that tell lyes and falsifie authors as Owlyglasse affirmeth then by his sentence we are not to beléeue either the pope of Rōe or his agents the most notorius lyers falsifirrs that euer the world sustained Againe if no credit be to be giuē vnto my discourse concerning the packing trechery of his consorts why doth he not answere me and conuince mee of vntruth And what reason hath he to desire his readers not to beleeue that which himselfe is not able to controule Is not such a bald compagnion ashamed to take to him as much authority as the Pope that all the generation of antichriste is to beleeue vpon his owne bare word Thirdly if all his idle obiectiōs concerning pretended corruptions and falsifications he so cleared as that I looke for no more answere of so nastie a disputer as this Owlyglasse is then it can be no credit for him to cry so loud or to vse these odious and slaundrous termes of corruptions and falsificatiōs but he ought rather to looke downe vpon his owne and his consorts filthy factes then to pinche at others mēs faultes Fourthly if the papistes his clients be so cleare as he maketh them why doth he not answere for them playnly and honestly refuting euery point of my charge If they be guiltie why doth he not rayle a spirt at Rob. Parsons that so foolishly brought them forth to this triall and there left them to speake for themselues Fifthly if he list not to excuse any Papist for the cariage of his life as he confesseth what reason hath he to blame me if I vpon so iust occasions giuen me by that rinegat and false traytor Rob Parsons haue toulde them some parte of their faultes Sixtly if he will not haue my verdict admitted against his clients though conuinced by playne euidence witnesse he hath no reason to require that the verdict of Robert Parsons a most notorious and infamous libeller and a knowne and professed traytor and an infamous person conuicted by his owne wicked and treasonable writings and by the testimony of his owne consorts or the accusations of such libellers as Owlyglasse and such worthlesse and namelesse fellowes should be admitted or receiued Againe if he wil haue nothing to be affirmed without authenticall testimony proofe then must he and his malicious mates forbeare to send forth so many vaine and fabulous pamphlets 7. Further if hee charge me hereafter with wilfull and witting falsification as he sticketh not very boldly and often to doe then must he proue first falsification then this quality of wilfull knowledge wherof hytherto he hath done neither againe if I obiect that to him which he cannot deny then modesty would require that he should confesse shame force him not to defend any more matters knowne notoriously to be false 8. If hee take to himselfe and his consorts the name of Catholike Church and will néedes charge me with a setled malice and desperat resolution against the Catholike Church he must proue two thinges First that Popish religion is the ancient catholike religion and next that I oppugne the catholike faith Vnles he doe this his reader will take him for a lewd begging compagnion that taketh that for granted that is in controuersie and we must accompt him for a paltry fellowe that is not able to answere our arguments whereby we proue that Popish religion which we refuse is neither catholike nor ancient 9. If boldly and falsely he will denie that our faith hath had continuance and succession from Christs time and challeng both to himselfe he must then deny that the faith taught in the Apostles créede and established in the fowre first general counsels and contained and grounded vpon the holy canonicall scriptures hath alwayes continued since Christs time and hath had continuall succession vntill our dayes And to prooue the Popish faith he must shew that the Apostles taught and that the holy fathers beléeued First that Christ had a body inuisible and impalpable and that might be in heauen and earth and many distant places all at one time secondly that Christs body did not fill the place wherein it was 3. That accidentes may subsist without foundation or subiect 4 that préestes may celebrate masse without communion 5 that the préestes may take away the cuppe of the newe testament from Gods people 6 that christians are to worship the crosse and the sacrament with Latria or diuine worship 7 that the préest doth offer vp the true body and bloud of Christ to God the
his meaning quoniam haec opinio tunc fuerat exorta saith Saint Augustine scilicet vt praecepta professa fide opera iustitiae contemnantur aliae apostolicae epistolae Petri Ioannis Iacobi Iudae contra eam dirigunt maximè intentionem vt vehementer astruant fidem sine operibus nihil prodesse These wordes Parsons translateth thus for that this wicked opinion of onely faith was sprong vp in the Apostles time by ill vnderstanding of S●int Paul c. he addeth to Saint Augustines wordes wicked and where he speaketh of a sole faith or rather solitary faith deuoide of workes hee maketh him to speake against these that say that faith onely iustifieth or applyeth iustice vnto vs which Saint Augustine misliketh not for in that same chapter he saith that workes follow him that is iustified and go not before iustification falsification 10 Pag. 269. he alleadgeth a counterfeit writing vnder the name of Athanasius wherein Saint Anthonies the ermites life is described and of the liues of Paul and Hilarion supposed to be Hieromes but altogether false like Dolmans booke of titles falsification 11 In his directory page 353. he maketh Cyprian to say that Christ appeared to a bishop in the forme of a goodly young man He saith also Serm. de Mortalit that Saint Augustine did often vse to recount this example and alleadged Posidonius for his witnes He saith further that Cyprian writ a booke de Mortalitate But first this discourse is but one poore sermon and no booke Secondly it is vncertaine whether this sermon was his or no. Thirdly he saith not that Christ appeared but that a goodly young man appeared to that Priest Finally he lyeth of Saint Augustine as well as Cyprian and in his allegations forgeth as fast as if he were the sonne of a blacksmith and brought vp in his forge falsification 12 In the same place ridiculously he alleadgeth certaine sermons ad fratres in eremo which he fathereth most falsely vpon Saint Augustine and this his owne side as well as the learned men of ours could haue tolde him if he had but had so much sence as to vnderstand them In the two pages following he telleth certaine fables of the apparitions of good and bad angels and layeth them vpon Gregory the dialogiste and Bede whose bookes are much corrupted by monkes and such like falsaries falsification 13 To prooue purgatory he alleadgeth a certaine counterfeit booke that is attributed to Saint Augustine intituled de vera falsa poenitentia and a forged prayer supposed to be said by Saint Ambrose when he went to say masse and such like counterfeit stuffe as may be found in his directory pag. 369. and the pages following falsification 14 Lib. 1. p. 1. c. 11. of his directory he alleadgeth a place out of Saint Ambrose ser 2. in psal 118. where hee supposeth him to speake of popish purgatory but he speaketh of purging onely in this life and of such a purgatory as that some passed through it to hell But the papists teach that no man passeth out of their purgatory into hell He is therefore fitter to talke of the fire of his putatiue fathers forge then of the fire of purgatory which he shall neuer be able to prooue with any forgery falsification 15 Lib. 1. p. 2. c. 1. he maketh Saint Augustine to say confess lib. 6. c. 12. that his owne passions and the diuell would needes perswade him before his conuersion that he should neuer be able to abide the austerity of a vertuous life But S. Augustine hath neither any such wordes nor any such meaning For first he speaketh not of a vertuous life but of abstinence from mariage to attaine to wisedome Secondly he saith the Diuell or Serpent went about through him to perswade Alypius and speaketh nothing of the Diuels perswasions to himselfe Thirdly he doth not so much as mention austere life in that place neither is it so austere a matter to forsweare mariage as is pretended especially if God giue men grace to liue chaste The Iesuits and massepriests certes haue no reason to talke of austeritie of life albeit they forsweare mariage especially if they liue at ease and fare daintily and wallow in all filthinesse as they shall heare particulerly hereafter if they content not themselues with this present payment falsification 16 Likewise he citeth certaine Meditations and Sermons vnder the name of Saint Augustine pratum spirituale vnder the name of Sophronius the legend of Barlaam vnder the name of Dam●scene and diuers other forged and counterfeit writings He doth also abuse both the scriptures and fathers most impudently as I shall at more leysure particulerly demonstrate Especially if he or any other dare vndertake to answere my challenge and to reply vpon my answere to his disciple Owlyglasse falsification 17 Fift reason of refusal Where Saint Paul 2. Tim. 4. speaketh of Alexander the copersmith he changeth his words and saith he commanded Timothy not to consent to Alexander the heretike And this corruption séemeth to be committed in fauor of his putatiue father the blacksmith whose occupation percase he was loth to sée disgraced falsification 18 Reason 6. Alleadging Saint Augustine contra Maximinum he séemeth to signifie that he wrote but one booke Againe he would make Saint Augustine to say that it was the fashion of heretikes to haue scriptures in their mouth But Saint Augustine in all his thrée bookes against Maximinus hath no such wordes nay himselfe in those bookes alleadgeth scripture often and reasoneth out of them and plainly signifieth that his instructions were drawne from thence De diuinis scripturis instructi saith he falsification 19 Reason 7. Speaking of the Pope hee giueth his reader to vnderstand that Cyprian de simplic praelat and epist 47. 55. and Chrysost lib. 2. de sacerdot Innocentius epist 93. apud Augustinum and Leo epist 84. and the Synode of Alexandria apud Athanasium and Theodoret lib. 2. hist c. 4. call the Pope the high priest of the Church the bishop of the vniuersall Church the pastor of the Church the iudge of matters of faith the repurger of heresies the examiner of all bishops causes and finally the great priest in obeying of whom all vnitie consisteth and by disobeying of whom all heresies arise But scarce doth he speake truely of any one of these fathers or councels as any man may sée both by examining the places and in my booke de Pontifice Rom. against Bellarmine would Parsons set downe the fathers words he might also sée it himselfe if he pleased falsification 20 Where he saith that the fathers of the primitiue Church with one consent affirme that the body and bloud of Christ was by Christ appointed to be offered vp daily for remission of sinnes of quicke and dead and quoteth Dionyse Ignatius Tertullian Augustine Chrysostome Gregory Hierome Cyprian and others with one breath he falsely alleadgeth them all as I haue particulerly demonstrated in my third booke de missa against
Weston Iesuits in Wisbich taught that whores were in Rome with as good right as the pope and his consorts did at Wisbich some thrée or foure yéeres agone affirming that whores were in Rome cum approbatione and to trusse all short with as good right as the pope And if he dare or hope to win aduantage by it let him compare the liues of the popes cardinals and Romish clergy and people with such as truely professe our religion and examine the honesty of both and if not let him leaue his lying and railing vpon honest men falsification 9 Pag. 11. chap. 2. For spittle saith he speaking of the ceremonies of baptisme we haue the warrant of S. Ambrose lib. 1. de sacrament c. 1. but whatsoeuer he hath we haue here a notorious lie deliuered by him for S. Ambrose in that place hath not one word of spittle much lesse of spittle in baptisme for which he is alledged I woonder then if Philip Woodward haue made vp these woodden animaduersions that the other masse priests do not spit in his face and defie him and the rather for that he supposeth euery word of S. Ambrose or the authour of that counterfet treatise to be a sufficient warrant whom the papists in diuers points regard not as I haue shewed in my treatise De missa now published against Bellarmine falsification 10 In the same chapter pag. 12. he saith that for ceremonies vsed by the Romanists in baptisme viz. for exorcismes blowings salt spittle hallowed water anointings light and others for of these he speaketh he hath the testimony of antiquitie whatsoeuer I say to the cōtrary But can any man beléeue him on his bare word sure no. for taking on him to prooue these ceremonies like a simple ideot he doth not so much as bring any testimony of antiquity for light holy water and greasing in baptisme And the rest which he bringeth are farre short of his purpose so that to proue Owlyglasse a lying companion I néed no testimony but Owlyglasse himselfe his owne loose dispute doth proue Ph. Woodward to be a woodden fellow falsification 11 In the same chapter pag. 11. he writeth that I vtter an vntrueth so manifest that Caluin doth confesse it and yet Caluin was dead long before I wrote any thing Beside that he doth not confesse that to be vntruth which I affirme for he saith not that the ceremonies in question were practised by the ancient church which I denie but onely affirmeth that he knoweth how ancient they were which may be true albeit they were neither ancient nor practised by the vniuersall church but by some few superstitious persons Finally he is a simple fellow to tell vs of Caluin or to make him our iudge albeit we reuerence his memory as being a learned and godly man and an excellent instrument vsed by the Holy Ghost to set foorth the trueth of the Gospell wickedly suppressed by Antichrist falsification 12 Speaking of our Communion booke in the same booke saith Pag. 13. he lay men and women are permitted to minister baptisme but no man did permit him thus to lie and to speake without booke neither would he haue taken himselfe libertie in things not permitted vnlesse the archpriest or some false Iebusite had giuen him libertie to lie and speake vntrueth That he hath maliciously vttered vntrueth the booke will declare wherein there is not one word either of lay men or women permitted to minister baptisme falsification 13 Where he saith pag. 15. that Epiphanius and Hierome affirme that married persons vsed not to be admitted to holy orders except they did promise perpetuall continencie from their wiues he telleth a notorious vntrueth for neither did Epiphanius haeres 59. nor Hierome aduers Vigilantium speake one word of promise or vow made in that case Beside that if they should make such a promise yet were that no warrant to permit men to leaue their wiues in that sort nor can men depart or absteine from their wiues without their consent as the aduersary knoweth if he know any thing falsification 14 He saith pag. 16. that in maried couples disioined the band of mariage continueth still but the conuenticle of Trent sess 24. c. 6. and other authors In the challenge before alledged will tell him that in mariages dissolued before consummation this his assertion is vntrue falsification 15 Chap. 2. p. 17. most certeine it is that they said masses and prayers for the soules departed saith he speaking of the fathers of the primitiue church but in this point not being able to bring foorth one father that euer said masse or dirge for the dead he doeth after a close maner giue himselfe the lie and to make his lying more manifest I haue in my answere to his exceptions taken away all the colours that he with his little learning could set vpon the matter If he rest not with his losse let him in his next returne shew where any ancient father said requiem aeternam for the dead or praied thus absolue Domine animas omnium fidelium defunctorum ab omni vinculo delictorum and finally let him proue that the ancient fathers beléeued that Christes body and blood were really offered for quicke and dead in the masse If he can not do this he talketh idlely of his masse and sheweth himselfe to be a masse priest rather in a foolish intention than in certeine knowledge or true popish deuotion falsification 16 Pag. 21. chap. 2. he denieth that papists put any hope in images or that they worship them as the Gentiles did their gods or that they offer their praiers or deuotions vnto them but hée lieth falsely as his owne conscience may tell him if he haue any conscience and be not as stupide as any stocke or stone which he is wont to worship secondly the practise of the Romish church must néeds conuince him of lying for among the Romanists simple people and priests also not vnlike to heathen idolaters fall downe before stocks and stones set vp lights before them burne incense to them pray before them thirdly their vsuall formes of praiers doe shew that he hath told vntrueth and that lying is with him an vsuall forme in their rituall books they say ô crux aue spes vnica and frier Bartilmew of Siena that is now said to worke miracles hath these wordes for his deuise Christ and his crosse and Mary be my guide and keeper and to the portrait of our Sauiours face they say salue sancta facies fourthly their common doctrine is that the image is to be worshipped with that worship that is due to the originall but it is to be doubted whether the heathen were so grosse idolaters as to giue that honour to their images finally they goe on pilgrimage to their images more then euer did the heathen and doubt not but they are able to doe more then the heathen idoles as may appeare by the vowes made to the lady of Loreto and such other saints for neuer did the
Father for the sinnes of quicke and dead 8 that christians are iustified by greasing which they call extreme vnction and by all other Romish sacraments 9 that the Diuell is coniured out by the blasphemous Romish exorcismes 10. that the pope is head and monarch of the Church 11 that it is sinne to eate flesh vpon imbre dayes 12 that the popes decrées are the foundation of the faith and other such like points of popish doctrine 10. If hee be not able really and playnly either to iustifie his owne cause or to disproue ours as he walketh by night himselfe so he may do well to keepe his conceits secret and to talke of them by night rather then by day credit he can winne none by his vaine babling rayling or lying Finally either let him acquit himselfe like a braue fellow or els desist from his odious termes of odious stuffe paued faces desperat dealing treachery legerdermain Pag. 86.87.82 false packing crafty conueyance filthie fardle of fowle lyes and such like And let him not thinke that he shall winne any thing with such courses For nothing can be deuised more odious and desperate then the cause of the wicked préestes of Baal Neither did euer any sect vse more cogging iugling or lewd impostures then the Papistes to conclude this point nothing is more easie thē to declaime against the Pope and the préestes of Baal and their impostures fraudes vilenyes superstitions trecheries blasphemies and all their abominations I would therefore aduise this paltry fellow to beware that he giue me not iust occasion to take the like course against his consorts I assure him I shall make all the packe of them infamous to posteritie In the second obseruation he saith further that hee will touch one lye of mine and that he saith is knowne to be one both to Spayne and Italy But vnlesse Spayne and Italy doe vnderstand English in which toung I wrote it can hardly be knowne to these two countries vnlesse by Spayne and Italy he vnderstand bastardly and vnnatural rinegat English which are either Italianated or turned Turke or Spanish beside that it must néeds be a strangelye that hath filled two so great contries and not vnlike their phantasticall corpus domini that is really in Spayne and Italy and euery altar as the Papish fansie at one time Let vs therefore heare him tell this wondrous lye and by his testimony the only lye of all my booke set out against these lying and traytorous wardeword Page 84. framed by Robert Parsons He saith that I affirme that Cardinall Allen was in the Spanish armado he should say armada in the yeare 1588 and that I repeat it diuers times and namely as he quoteth in the margent reply p. 61. p. 98. 110. But what if I did not once name the Spanish armada when I talke of Allans comming against his contry was not this lying companion armed with a Vizor of impudency where he talketh of lying to lye so grossely I hope his best frends will not deny it well then let vs sée what my words are that Owlyglasse taketh hold on I say in my reply p. 62. that anno 1588. diuers rinegat English and among the rest Cardinall Allen came with the Spaniardes to fight against their countrie I say againe pag. 98. that Cardinall came with the Spaniardes anno 1588. With fire and sword to destroy this lande In my challenge p. 110. I say cardinall Allen and not so little as a hundred preistes came with the Spanish army And out of these words he gathereth that I say he was in the spanish armada but he was blind that could not sée that there is great difference betwixt an army and an armada that signifieth a fléete betwixt the Spanish forces and the Spanish fléete And a great wonder it is that an hispaniolized english masse préest should no better vnderstand either spanish or English Although then it were true that Cardinall Allen was not in the fléete yet was he to come with the Spanish Armie Neither is there any vntruth in my wordes as appeareth by the testimony of Allen himselfe in his wicked libell to the nobilitie and people of England and Ireland where he writeth thus I hope euerie man will beleue Allen himselfe and his owne words before the base fellow our aduersarie that was not priuy to all his treasons Thus much my good Lords and deare friends I haue thought good to forewarne you of the whole cause of these present sacred warres and of his holinesse and Catholike maiesties sincere intention therein both their incomparable affections towards our nation whereof I could giue you farre more comfortable intelligence if I were personally present with you as I trust I shall be verie shortly For that is fully meant by his holinesse and by his maiestie and of me so much desired that euerie short day seemeth a long yeare till I enioy you in our Lord. Note I pray you that by the Popes speciall appointment and the king of Spaines good liking that vnnaturall Cardinal was to come with the Spanish army against his countrey Note also how much this traytor desired this inuasion and howe that he thought euery short day a yeare vntill it was accomplished He saith also that the Pope preferred him to a high function intending to send him as his legat with full commission and commandement to treate and deale from time to time as well with the states of the Realme as with his holinesse and the kings maiestie for the sweeter managing of this godly and great affaire Doe you not sée and is it not plaine by the Cardinals owne confession that this swéete Cardinall was appointed a principall commander in that swéete action wherin he swéetly intended to cut our throates And yet this sowre varlet in sowre termes giueth me the lie for making him one of these inuadors that meant to destroy this our natiue countrey which all honest men of which Owlyglasse is none with all their power ought to defend against such traitors as Allen was But saith Owlyglasse Card. Allen was neuer out of Italy but eyther at Rome or at Grotta Fe●rata Suppose he were not yet might he be of the party and so farre engaged as I related for the Spanish forces and army was not then drawne togither but part was in the lowe countries and France and no small parts yet remaining in Italy and Spaine And certes if the Cardinal was not come in person to the army yet was he of the army and to come with it as appeareth not onely by his owne wordes but also by the testimony of many others that well knew it and in not comming he was to be taken as a desertor and so to be punished But that he that was in the way towards England and when he heard of the discomfiture of the Spanish fleete turned aside to wéepe at Grotta Ferrata deseruing rather to be strangled as a traytor in Cauea Ferrata then to take the fresh ayre