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A19855 A detection of that sinnful, shamful, lying, and ridiculous discours, of Samuel Harshnet. entituled: A discouerie of the fravvdulent practises of Iohn Darrell wherein is manifestly and apparantly shewed in the eyes of the world. not only the vnlikelihoode, but the flate impossibilitie of the pretended counterfayting of William Somers, Thomas Darling, Kath. Wright, and Mary Couper, togeather with the other 7. in Lancashire, and the supposed teaching of them by the saide Iohn Darrell. Darrel, John, b. ca. 1562. 1600 (1600) STC 6283; ESTC S109292 232,635 230

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witnesses tell vs that So. was not somuch trou●●led ●●r his ow●● sinnes as for the sinnes of the people ergo he taught him to c●u●terfey If thus we should goe through the Disc circumstances and weigh them in the ballance of reason we shall fynde them as light or lighter then vanity it selfe Truly I thinke since the worlde was m●de there were neuer more vaine ydle and sottish circumstaunces obiected against any m●n liuing My 5. and last answer is 〈…〉 that if there were a possibillity of counterfeyting as there is not and these circumstances were a little stronger in appearance then they are yet in this case of teaching So. I can not be proued guilty by circumstaunces for how can it possibly bee made true by any circumstances that I haue taught So. to counterfeyt so long as he cannot tell where nor in what place I taught him nor when can any action be done but there is a p●ace and time wherein and when the same is done Euen so it is in this my schooling of Somers Haue I taught So to counterfeyt I desire to know where and when In A●bby parke for other place as yet there is not any named I haue shewed it cannot be and it is as cleare as they day light at noone where then● It would be knowne So. heereof can not be ignorant if there were any such thing performed Let him then tell the place where the weekes monethes or yeares wherein the same was doing with other circumstances therevnto apperteyning If this So. cannot doe as hitherto he hath not truly and men may well thinke he cannot for if he could he had done it before this we may be most assured it is becaus there was neuer any such instructing of him It is not in this our case as it is in murther and such like offences Som. is not deade but aliue he is not absent and to seeke but at hand neyther can he but know that which I desire he should make knowne if any such thing be And vntill this be done by So the aforeseid circumstances and a thousand such more are not sufficient or any whit at all auaileable to prooue me guilty of teachinge him to counterfeyt yea to what purpos● are my circumstances in this case of ours except this I speake of be first performed● truly to none at all except it be to dazell mens eyes and so to keepe them from seeing that which otherwise they could not but see most clearly If Som. had once done this I speake of and so as I were not able to conuince him then indeede there would be some vse of circumstances to strengthen his accusation They had neede also to be very strong ones considering the vnworthynes of the accuser and the rare and wondetfull feyts I shold teach him But that being not done I maruaile how any man of reason and iudgment should hould me guilty vpon those aforesaid poore and empty circumstances For where the Dis● saith that I did so cunningly instruct Som. by speaking to others in his hearing those things that I meant be shoulde practise pag 106. This is the argument of the 3● chapter as that albert I had neuer seene him at Asbby nor dealt with him priua●ly at Nott. yet the course that I had held with him there was so contryued a● it might easily informe So. what he had to doc● it is most absurde For who can be so voyde of reason as to thinke that I could no sooner speake of the signes of possession mentioned in the gospell as foming casting into the fyer extraordinary strength ect and of othere very admirable feyts as of a greate swelling in the body and of a little swelling to run along the body betwene the flesh and the skyn of making the armes and legges heauy as yron of retorting the tongue into the throat so as no part of it could be seene in the mouth of induring the pricking with pynnes and keeping in the bloud so as none not a drop should issue at the places pricked with many more such like but that So. presently could and did therevpon doe the same was there euer so nimble a boy and so apt a scholler heard of beefore since the world began It is no maruaile then though the Disc terme him an apt scholler So. saith he being an apt scholler for M. Darrell to practise vpon pag 11● hearing by M. Dar. speaches what was to be done at his handes did c. wherewith all that were present were much amazed But admitt this were possible as me thinketh none should say so besides the Disc yet out of question it is impossible that the speaches I vsed to others at Nott. in So hearing vpon the fift of Nouember after before which time my voyce was not hearde in the presence of So. should instruct So in those things he practised for the space of 4. a how can the Dis● avoyde this without blushinge weekes at the least before that time which being so and withall mani●est and notoriously knowne confirmed also by the depositions of the 17. That So. or the diuell did the very same things before the 5. of Nouember and my comming to him at Nott. which he did after wherevppon I was sent for and requested to come it cannot be that So. was instructed of me by speaking to others in his hearing those thinges that I ment be should practise Beesides it is againste common sence that I should instruct him after this manner if that were true that the Disc and So. affirme to be true I meane that I had bene scholing of him beefore at Ashby and pryuatly also instructed him at Nott. For he hauing bene as they sav foure or fyuo yeares learning his tricks and hauing had them also in writing from me he coulde not sure be to learne them when he shoulde act them Againe it had bene extreame folly or rather madnes in vs both that hauing so long time opportunity to teach and learne in could finde out none but deferr it vn●●ll the very instant they were to be practised Thus the Discon himselfe may see that his circumstances albeit they be many are too weake and insufficient to proue my teachinge of his counterfeyt and t●erefore S● accusati●n must doe the deede or else it will not be● which as appeareth by the premisses is palpable false The 2. ●hap co● 〈◊〉 parte of the former 〈◊〉 and 〈…〉 hauing n●it●er face nor possibilli●y of truth in it The best way then for the Di●couerer I meane the B●sh of London and Samuell Harsnet is to confesse the truth and publish it and so giue glory to god seeing the salshood of this Disc●u●ry is nowe made manifest in the eyes of the Sunne OF CHAP. 4. Discouerer Of M. Dar. cunning ins●ructing Somers by speaking to others in his hearing● of Sathans secking to reposs●sse him pag 127. and of the acting of certayne trick● under a couerlet In the former parte of this
betwene the flesh and the skyn depryuing him of all sence so as being prickt deepe with pynnes he woulde not styrr nor bloud issue retorting his tongue into his throate causing him to foame excessiuly to be in appearance of supernaturail strength and knowledge casting him into the fyre without being burnt c. and that daylie what would it aduantage the diuell for So. to say and sweare he counterfeyted when the deede euery houre done by himselfe shewed the contrary and where had bene my teaching to counterfeyt and the imprisoning the innocent how would also the children of men haue bene generally kept from beeleeuing the worke of god and magnifyinge him for it and not only so but insteade there of brought to receaue a false and vile report against his seruant and that which is far wone against the worke it selte Howsoeuer then the diuell is naturally carried to vexe and torment them in whose bodyes he is and to sen●e forth such effects as we heare and ordinarilye doth so yet we may be assured that when he seeth it is more for his aduantage to refrayne as it is in this our case to draw thousands to synne then to torment one sole body he being in man will not shewe himselfe and make that knowne but lurke and lye cloase as I may say● like a su● tie serpont and oulde foxe as he is We haue hearde before in the story that for the space of a fort night or thereabouts sathan did withdrawe himselfe from vexing Iohn Starky and Anne Starky for certaine dayes insomuch as their parents with others did verilye thinke at the first when M. More and I came to Cleworth that they had bene well and no wicked spirites within them yea we haue had experience thereof even in Somers who after he had giuen it forth that he counterfeyted and therewith continued as well and free from all appearance of possession as at this present he doth for the space of 4 or 5. weakes was fearefully tormented by the diuell before the Commissioners and many other witnesses and so continued about 12. dayes in the vew of all that came vnto him vntill the aduersaries hauing gathered hart to themselues did rise vp againe for counterfeyting and tooke him the second time into their custody in whose hāds he was no sooner but presētly he was as they thought well and no diuell forsooth in him and so hath remayned as they thinke vntill this day which suddayne amendment if I may so call it with the cause or occasion thereof might helpe vs to spi out the reason of Sathans not vexing of So. albeit he be in him styll if we were wise Now I desire to know why the diuell may not aswell by the space of some yeares abstayne from tormenting the man he possesseth as for the space of some weekes Thus we see that So. not being vexed by sathan doth not let but that he may be possessed We see also the reason why the diuell thus withdraweth himselfe which well considered we may perceaue that it is not possible it should haue bene or yet be so longe as all things continue as they are that the vncleane spirit entred into So. with seauen worse then himselfe shold vex him at all otherwise then in corners before such and in such maner as he thinketh good and seeth it to make for the vphoulding mainteyning of that euill name of counterfevting which he for the obscuring of the greate worke of god ma●h 12 2● Luk 11. 21. hath raysed vp and spread far neate for what saith the scripture when the stronge man armed keepeth the b●use the things that be possesseth are in pea●c● This is first to be vnderstood of corporall possession as is playne by the occasion thereof Now did euer the strong armed man possesse a house more ●u●e the then he doth 〈…〉 or body when no man resisteth t●at vsurper when So. himselfe and some such as are ru●ers in the ●●urch comon wealth yea and too many ●ti●ers are for this vniust possessor for 〈…〉 and 〈…〉 no man almost in a ze●le of god and his gl●ry riseth vp against him As then the repossession of So. is according to that 〈◊〉 his foretoulde vs by the holy scriptures euen so in ●●is is lurl●ng of sat● an 〈◊〉 being at peace with S●mer we see the scripture likewise fulfiled Nit●er doe I doubt but that if any zealous for the l●or●e of hoasts shall procure such order to be taken that the meanes may be vsed for the dispossessinge of this vsurper and so Christ Iesus the stronger ●ane vppon this strong man he shal be spoyled of ●as hou●e that armoure wherein he trusted taken from him and his spoyles deuided and we therein also see the scripture fulfilled beefore our eyes we desire that a tr●all heere of may be made that so happely if no other way an end may be put to this controuersie To deny this were very hard and iniurious to the manifestation of the worke and peace of those which contend abut it If I had only knowne Som. possessed and not to haue bene beesides dispossessed I should haue bene lesse confident in this present possession for why I should haue doubted least Sathan peraduenture had leaue from god to possesse him only for a season which time being expired he might remayne there no longer albeit no meanes was vsed for his expulsion and against this I fynde nothing in holy scripture But of the repossession of one I am otherwise perswaded because it is said that of both the Tuangelists which spake of the conditiō of the repossessed m●●h 12. 45. Lul 11. 26. that the sp●rite hauinge entred in with seauen worse then himselfe will dwell there and take vp his habitation as hauinge some right and interest in t●e house In which respe●t it may be it is said that the last stat of that man is wo●s th●n the first meaning that the condition of the man reposessed is worse then it was when he was first possessed For first Christ speaketh in both the ●uangelists in the pre●ent tense not in the future the last state of that man is worse not shal be worse 2. The antithesis or opposition betwene first and last estate confirmeth this expositio● for by first estat● we are to vnderstande the condition of the possessed from the time ●athan entreth into man vntill the time of his eiection and by last estat● I thinke his like conditiō of being possessed but after eie●tion wherby it may w●lbe distiguished frō the former rightly he called 〈…〉 haung respe●t to the other and like estat going bef●re And this 〈…〉 of one possessed which is that we call repofessi●n is saide to be the 〈◊〉 first because into such the same spirit which ●as there be●●re is entred with s●auen worse then himselfe 2. because they will dwe●l there that is though they he cast ●ut 〈…〉 theire possession And truly no n●arua●●e though the estate of the 〈◊〉
hauing fore appointed a mighty and wonderfull opposition against his manifest worke he would haue solemne witnesses fu●● t●ereof for the further strengthening of those who should beeleue his worke and makinge those the more yea out of measure mexcusable who should resist fight against it per●ase also and partlye to strengthen and incourage his seruants whome he would especially vse not only in bearinge witnesse to the possession and dispossession but also to the repossession of S●mers which last the worlde would not indure to heare of and to put them in hope for their further incouraging therei● that as then after ●athan had withdrawne and hid himselfe● a time wherevpon there was greate contention whether the boy were possessed or counterfeyted the Lord did discouer the spirit to the manifestation of the truth and that beefore solemne witnesses so one day after an other manner of contention I meane farr greater and before more solemn witnesses of greater authority god would vnca●e that ●ul till spirit deceauer of the world to the full manifestation of the truth and his owne glory whether then I say there was any such co●pac● as is heere mentione● or no it mattereth not neither whether 〈◊〉 were afrayde of hanging● but the matter indeede to be considered by vs is whether So did those strange things whereof the Commissioners were ey witnesses as So. and the Disc affirme or the diuell as we affirme The Commissioners with sundry others of account and good credit doe know that beefore them Som. wallewed to and f●o●●n the chamber floar or swiftly rowled with his body stretched out to the full length in very strang and admirable ●ea I ma● truly say 〈◊〉 supernaturall manner 2. That he lay before them with his body swelle● greatly 3. His intrall● were short vp and downe along in his body much like to the s●●o●ting of aweauers s●ittle 4. greate violence was offered vnto him thereby to make try all i● he had any feelinge and namely he was pri●ed with p●nns in hand and legg whereat he stirred non●●re then a stock 5. being pricked and that deepe not a drop of bloud if ue●●●t This pricking with pynn●s and the induringe the●eof So. himslefe we see confesseth so it may be●● did the not issuing of bloud and the Disc thought good to keepe that back but 〈…〉 come cure only yet this I am sure of that 〈…〉 was held vp beefore 〈…〉 where he had bene pri●●ed but the 〈…〉 to be there gathered 〈…〉 did not 〈◊〉 because the skyn was 〈…〉 by name that only pricked 〈…〉 men deepe as M. C●●ge Sma●● who 〈…〉 of London as also 〈…〉 downe of purpose 〈…〉 would be Yt now Som. 〈…〉 are to order the matter that 〈…〉 pynnes a d●euer stirr thereat nor 〈…〉 his intra●s then I deny not but 〈…〉 the Commissioners otherwise 〈…〉 from the diuell and so he 〈…〉 the Disc will put out the eyes not only 〈…〉 but 〈◊〉 many others also 〈…〉 ●hew his own trickes and 〈…〉 with the Mai●● was that therby 〈…〉 Commissioners that whatsoeuer he had done 〈…〉 counterfeyted or as M Fre 〈…〉 and the 〈…〉 them and was asked be 〈…〉 fell down did he answer that a 〈…〉 and in a worde so as by his answers it was 〈…〉 he could not or would not tell of any thing that 〈…〉 had done or wa● done vnto him by others 〈…〉 the company of his counterfeyting wh●● 〈…〉 why he then did his prank● but to induce 〈…〉 contrary So. is produced by the Disc answerange this 〈…〉 wordes Discouerer 〈…〉 〈…〉 durst not speake his mynde therein call me seing the rest of the commissioners and many others so confident indeed that I was repossessed Further more I also then feared least M. Markhams and one ●aques wordes with sundry others would proue true who the same morning ouernight ●ad could me that if I were found to be dissembler I must be hanged whereas quoth Iaques if it then appeare that thow art not a dissembler ther can no lawe nor Iudge hurt thee In these respects I thought it the safest way for my selfe to yeald for that time to their humors and to answer as before is expressed that I had not dissembled Darrell For our better vnderstanding of the iugling and deceipt heere vsed we must know that euen as So. was facing it out to the Commissioners that he had counterteyted and yet refusing to counterfeit so againe he was vyolently cast downe the spirit then trifling excedingly so framing his countenance toying with his armes and leggs as a man in carnall reason would haue verily thought that he counterfeyted nothing being done but that might easily be done by any Our helpe was thus that being pu●led by the eares and hayre of the heade as 〈◊〉 they shovld haue naue bene plucked of and there withall his head beaten so to the floar at a mercifull man would scarsly doe to a dogg yet he stirred nor not at all therat nor at the pricking of him with pinnes neyther did any bloud issue at the places pricked This fitt ended he beinge asked by the Commissioners what hee had done also what others had done to him hee coulde tell of nothinge one of the commissioners askinge him whether he were not pricked of one of his handes with a pynne he answered yes hould inge forth the wronge hand whereby those that were present perceaued that he would gladly haue vttered those things that had in that fitt be fallen him if possibly he could that so still hee might haue perswa●ed men that he had formerly dissembled Lastly beinge demaunded whether he had counterleted he answered with a braten face as before the said fit that he had counterfeyted Forthwith he was carryed away by his keepers and presently after else-where in the towne fearefully tor mented by the diuell whereof when tydings was brought to the Commissioners viz. that now So. was very fearfully handled some commaunded that he should be brought back againe which being done accordingly he no sooner appeared beefore them but he was in a fitt and so proceeded from fitt to fitt till he had had sundry the spirit in these vexing him indeede and shewing his rage malice against man and not in subtilty as he did at the first VVhere now the Disc affirmeth that So. liinge in the fitt he had at the first when he was pricked with pynnes and out of which the 〈◊〉 should haue called him did vpon good deliberation for sooth change his my●●e and accordinge thereto the fitt beinge ended say to the Commissioners that he had not dissembled it is v●true for then be affirmed the contrary that he had dissembled as the Commissioners 〈◊〉 sundry others can testify And if So. did say to the Commissioners that he had not d●ssembled which I doe not remember it was after he was sent for the second time and vpon the fearefull vexat●●n be then indured thick and threefoulde by Sathan which helpeth 〈◊〉 the 〈◊〉 at all 〈◊〉
chapter the Disc telleth vs of a second or new ●●senage viz. So. counterfeytinge of a repossession and after what manner I instructed him we heare in the title of the chapter pag. 128. This cosenage the Disc pretendeth to proue by two speaches of mine the one is that I should affirme to my Auditory in the hearing of Som. that for a certainty Sathan would seeke to repossesse the said So. and preuayle against him except he were mightely withstood by faith The other that I affirmed the night he was disp●ssessed in the hearing of So. diuers others that sathan returned the same night he was dispossessed out of certaine in Lancashire and that so returning he appeared vnto them in certayne somlitudes Darrell When the Disc hath proued me guilty of the first cosenage I my selfe will yeald the second vntill he haue performed that which yet he hath not none that is wise will regard what he saith concerning this new cosonage as he termeth So repossession 2. All or most of that I haue giuen before in answer to the afor●said circumstaunces serueth also for answer vnto this 3. Seeing betwene So. dispossession and repossession which was about thirteene weekes he and I had se●ret con●eren●● togither diuers times as the Disc telleth vs and that for the instructing of him to disseemble a repossession pag● 90. it had bene sufficient to haue in a worde or two at one of these our secret con●●ren●es to haue b●d him fall againe to his former tricks and say with all that the divell did seeke to enter into ●im so that this i● structinge of ●im by 〈…〉 in his ●earinge ne●e not 4. And one woulde think that were there any such new ●●●nage I would rather haue giuen him his dire 〈…〉 the same apart then before diuers others 4. So. was then reposses●e as now at this 〈◊〉 is The 〈◊〉 at moue me to thinke that 〈…〉 sessed are these 〈…〉 1. because about 12. or 13. ●●eches a●ter 〈…〉 session I among diuers others sawe in him the signes of possession euen all the same I did before and beheld him handled after the very same manner he was the time of his first trouble 2 mark 9. 25. ma●h 12. 43. and therefore if the possessed he is so now and if euer he was possessed then and for the same cause he is againe possessed 2. The scripture telleth vs that the rn●●ane spirite being gon out of a man doth not only returne and secke to enter into his said house againe but indeede enter and possesse the said party if returning be finde him empty swept and garmshed that is ready and prepared to interteyne his oulde gueast the diuell which is when the party is vncleane and liueth in sinne for an vncleane person is a fitt receptacle for the foule spirit but So. out of whome the diuell was cast ● is and hath bene such as is manifest by his abominable lying in denying the worke of God wrought vpon him his false accusinge of the innocent ioyned with greate obstinacye and ympudencie his periury and other greuous and open svnnes of his It must needes therefore be that So. is repossessed 3. There is somethinge in reason to confirme vs herein pag. 205. in that from time to time So hath bene doing in secrett and offered sometimes openlye to doe his tricks as some call them After he had said the second time that he had counterseyted and was as free from being vexed by sathan and as farr from all appearance of possession as now he is he as is notoriously knowne and the Disc himselfe confesseth showed his tricks before my 〈◊〉 ●●nderson and diuers others in some extraordinary sort At one of my examinations before the B. of London M. Barker register to the high comission and another gentleman being present So. vppon occa●ion of some wordes vttered by me would ●aue bene doinge his tricks and had vndoubtedly but that the Bishop ●ebuked him for it and pre●ently for feare thereof sent him away It should seeme that the ●●sh●p ad seene him doe his tricks before that time yea percase often other● if he would haue bene as glad for the further satiffyinge of himsel●e to haue seene his fevts as some there present At ●ombeth vppon ●●itson-eue in open court So. offered to doe his tricks and had not t●e B. of London said it was to no purpose because M. Mor● and I 〈◊〉 sav it was not he but the diuell that did them he had 〈…〉 tion fallen to his worke Neither can we in 〈◊〉 that 〈◊〉 were bare offers or wordes he not beinge a●le to 〈…〉 thing considering to ●myt other times●●e or 〈…〉 s●me o● his trickes beefore my 〈…〉 is ready to 〈◊〉 them when 〈…〉 the eye-witnessses the c●f con●e●●e 〈…〉 and the cheife of them that if the boy did not say he counterfeyted and cease to doe the tricks when he is bidden he should verily think that he did them by the diuell may not this well after the premsises confirme vs in his possession whether So. was packt beyond the seas by some that knew he was possessed and feared least that woulde one day appeare or went of his owne accord about some great busynes of his owne let other men iudge as also why it will not be graunted that the meanes may be vsed which the u worde of god directeth vs vnto for the discouery of Sathan whome we are boulde to affirme lurketh in him And where some men can hardly with any patience indure to heareof this repossession Luke 11. 22. because no such thing appeareth they must know that Sathan doth and hath long laboured to obscure the worke of god wrought vppon So. to anninilate it if it were possible that so god might goe without the glory and prayse which would be gyuen him in the acknowledgment thereof and man lose the profit he wolde make of such a rare worke of god To this end and for the better bringing of this to paise the diuell hauing recouered So. and entred into his house the body of So. agayne indeuored by himselfe and his instruments threatning and promising to drawe him to deny the work of God and affirme that he counterfeted and therewithall couenanted with So to helpe him to doe any thing that he would take in hand meaning those thinges that he had in the time of his possession done The case being thus and this being the worke that the diuell hath in had it is not to be ymagined that Sathan beinge in So. shoulde torment him and so make it appeare that he is there for thus he shoulde be against himselfe and ouerturne all he had done and hath in hande Yf the diuell hauing drawne So. after that he was againe entred into him to say he counterfeyted shoulde vexe him and sent forth the same e●●ects he did before he thus affirmed causing a verye greate swelling in his belly an other and much lesse to run along his bodye