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A01735	A short reply vnto the last printed books of Henry Barrow and Iohn Greenwood, the chiefe ringleaders of our Donatists in England VVherein is layd open their grosse ignorance, and foule errors: vpon which their whole building is founded. By George Gyfford, minister of Gods holy worde, in Maldon.	Gifford, George, d. 1620.	1591 (1591)	STC 11868; ESTC S118836	80,934	106

remembrance the Collect wherein the Priest by the authoritie committed vnto him doth absolue the sick of all his sinnes Indeed you tolde vs that this is most high blasphemie and that nothing can be more popish But learne you Master Barrow by the Scripture and remember that God hath giuen a power to the ministrie of the Gospell to forgiue sinnes The power indeede is but ministeriall and so the booke it selfe declareth where it sayth He hath giuen power and commandement to his ministers to declare and pronounce to his people being penitent the absolution and remission of their sinnes Other power in the minister to forgiue sinnes then this the booke alloweth none How the Pope doth challenge this power to himselfe as head and how from him it must be deriued vnto all Ministers how farre also he hath extended it and how horribly and blasphemously he hath abused it I will not stand to shewe Then next you say I must not forget the two Collects sayd ouer our dead brother The one in which we say that God of his mercie hath taken away the soule of our brother c. This is not ment but where the partie dieth in the profession of the faith and repentance nor yet absolutely to pronounce him saued but in a charitable manner of speach to iudge of him as he professed I doo not take it the meaning of the booke that it should be vttered of such as make no profession of the holy faith for why then should he be called a brother or vpon whome God doth shewe his fearefull iudgement if it be otherwise it may be a fault but not blasphemie The other is that we pray for the soule of our brother departed where we say that wee with this our brother and all other departed in the true faith may haue our perfect consummation and blisse both in body and soule Prayer for the dead is a grosse error but yet not simply in it selfe an heresie or blasphemie and our Church dooth vtterly condemne it as a grosse error And therefore Master Barrow you do still but belye the booke which directeth herein to pray onely for our selues liuing and not for the dead For if the mention of receiuing blisse with that brother departed were to pray for him then should it be meant that wée would also pray for the soules of Abraham Isaack and Iaakob of the Prophets and Apostles because they are included in these words with all other departed in the true faith In the third place you are so kinde that as you say to helpe my memorie a little further you will mee to consider better of that glorious Anthem which wee say at our Communion that we with Angels and Archangels and all the companie of heauen lawd and magnifie c. Here you will not demaund how wee remaining in the flesh can haue such familiar conuersation with those heauenly Souldiers that together with them wee can praise God You will not demaund that is you doo in a fine retoricall sort demaund it but the finenes of this retoricke will not couer the sottishnes of your ignorance For albeit men in earth haue not familiar conuersation with Angels yet they prayse God together with them in as much as both men and Angels do lawd and magnifie him And therefore the Prophet Psal 103. calling vppon all things to prayse the Lord ioyneth the Angels saying Praise the Lord ye Angels which are strong in power Reade also for this the first chapter of the Reuel verl 12 13 14. Then you will not presse vs with papisticall speculations of making degrees of Angels and Archangels c. In very deede you cannot but with falsehood presse our Church with that But you demaund how many Archangels we reade of and finde in the Scriptures and whether wee knowe of any more heads of Angels then Christ himselfe We knowe and constantly professe that there is but one head of Angels which is Christ And we condemne the popish curiositie in searching into the degrees and orders of Angels which is not learned out of the holy Scriptures but from that counterfeit Dionisius Areopagita And if that Michael the Archangel which stroue with the diuell about the body of Moses and durst not giue rayling sentence were Christ yet S. Paule speaketh of an Archangell besides Christ when he sayth The Lord himself shal come downe from heauen with the voyce of the Archangell and with the trumpe of God 1. Thess 4. vers 16. What blasphemie then Master Barrow is there in the booke which speaketh but as the Scripture and you may see plainly that to be a chiefe Angell or an Archangell is not to be the head of Angels The sainctifying the floud Iordain and all other waters to the mysticall washing away of sinne is none other way to be taken then to say that bread and wine are sainctified to represent the body and bloud of Christ All the creatures of God are sainctified to our vse as the blessed Apostle speaketh Touching Michael and all Angels we do not worship Angels nor yet make Christ a creature You say that in the Letanie there is prayer for all that trauaile by sea or by land for all that be sicke for all sicke persons therefore we pray for Gods enemies for the breach of all order and destruction both of Church and common wealth This is but a vayne collection when prayer is intended for such as are prayed for that they may be turned from their euill Also when this word all is vsed it goeth with this restraint all that belong vnto God for so is Saint Paule to be also restrayued vnto all sorts of men which belong vnto God when he willeth to pray for al men 1. Tim. 2. You demaund where wee learne to pray agaynst lightning and thunder tempest plague famine battaile c. when there is no present feare or danger thereof Then it seemeth by your words that wée may intreate the Lord to turne away none of his grieuous and feareful plagues but when they be vpon vs We sée there are euer anon some which are stricken with thunder and when the clap is past it is too late to pray for them Againe the praiers of the Church are for all the true members thereof wheresoeuer and if wee our selues bee not in this present neede yet others are and wée may be if God turne not a way his displeasure these praiers are not to restraine the Lord the vse of his creatures or that he should not by them destroy his enemies these bee no sound collections Unles you will argue thus the Lord afflicteth his Church by persecutions by famine and pestilence c. for their good and for the glory of his owne name therefore the church ought not to pray to be deliuered from those things Wée are willed to be alwaies ready for death and suddaine death cannot preuent any one of the faithfull I doo confesse But yet wée estéeme it a great comfort a great blessing for

by true repentance Thus farre be your wordes Master Barrow Alas poore creatures how much is your siely blindnes to bee pitied that can set down things so directly contrary at the same instant yet espieit not for you say that Circumcision in their Apostasie was no true Sacrament vnto them neither sealed the Lordes couenant vnto them in that estate And yet you say it was true Circumcision concerning the outward cutting Likewise you say that Baptisme in the poperie cannot bee saide a true Sacrament or seale of Gods couenant vnto them And yet concerning the outward washing ye confesse it true Baptisme Is not this all one as if a man should say it is the true sacrament and seale of Gods couenant it is no true Sacrament nor seale of Gods couenant I pray you M. Barrow is not the outward washing the whole Baptisme and the whole seale of Gods couenant Was not the outward cutting the whole circumcision and the whole seale of Gods couenant And if the outward washing be the whole Sacrament and the whole seale of Gods couenant as indeede with the word it is for the inward grace is no part of the Sacrament but we may say that this inward grace is the thing represented and sealed by the Sacrament Then when you say concerning the outward washing it is true Baptisme doo you not affirme the whole Sacrament and so the whole seale of Gods couenant to be true But you say it is no true seale vnto them in their Apostasie or it doth not seale Gods Couenant vnto them in that estate but when the abuse thereof is purged away by true repentance What absurde speeches be these can a man deuife more grosse folly the outward true Sacrament is the true seale of Gods couenant euen vnto those which be hypocrites and vtterly voyde of fayth which haue it For if we shall say it is no true Sacrament or no seale of Gods couenant or that it doth not seale Gods couenant but vnto those which haue the inward grace the efficacie and fruite thereof then was it sometimes no true Sacrament which the Apostles themselues did administer because there were some vnto whome they did administer both the holy Baptisme and the Lords Supper which had not the inward grace And if the Sacraments be not the true seales of Gods Couenant euen vnto those which haue no fruite thereby how should the receiuers which are vtterly vnworthie be guiltie of the body and blood of our Lord Also when a man doth receiue Baptisme which is alwayes the seale of Gods couenant and is voyde of fayth and receiueth it at their handes which doo mixe it with sundry additions and corruptions and after commeth vnto true faith he himselfe is purged by his fayth and hath the vse of that seale which hee had before but without fruite we cannot say as you doo but with most wicked and foule absurditie that the Sacrament it selfe was a false Sacrament and now through sayth is purged and became a true Sacrament That which is the Lordes doth stand in it selfe pure and vnde●iled euen when corruptions bee added The Wheat in it self is as pure lying among the Chaffe as when it is purged from the Chaffe The golde and siluer in themselues be as pure when the rust is vpon them as when it is scowred off If a thing in the mixture of corruptions haue not a true being ye cannot by purging bring it to haue a true being And when you say that concerning the outward washing it is true Baptisme ministred in popery which is as much as I haue shewed as to say it is a true sacrament concerning the whole because the outward washing is the whole and therefore all that Iohn the Baptist taketh to himselfe is this I baptize ye with water Doo you not acknowledge a ministrie in popery Will you say it is concerning the outward washing true Baptisme by whomesoeuer it bee done Nay you say where there is no true ministrie there is no true Sacrament Then where there is no part of a true ministrie there is no part of a true Sacrament In your other booke Master Barrow which you tearme a briefe discouerie of the false Church from the 102. page vnto 121. you make a large discourse about this point taking vppon you to bee a stickeler betwéene Master Doctor Some and the Scholler of Oxenford writing against him in defence of Master Penrie There you lay about you with your woodknife vpon both parties Master Doctor Some holding the Baptisme administred in the popery to be true Baptisme alleaging that Master Caluine held so as in déede all the Churches and all the most excellent and worthy lights which God hath raised vp in these last times doo hold the same with sound reasons from the Scripture you scoffingly tearme him a great Clarke and say that in certaine marginal notes added to his booke this inconuenience was moued vnto his further consideration how hee would auoyde the blowe of flat Schisme Also you say he was friendly aduised to spare this deepe diuinitie deriued from Master Caluine and others of this time leaft h●e should open such a gappe to the Papistes as neither the Church of England nor Geneua nor any other that hold this opinion shall euer be able to shut for if it be true Baptisme deliuered in the Church of Rome then will it follow that the Popish priests be true ministers And then may the seale of the couenant be giuen to open Idolaters then dooth Gods couenant of peace belong to the babilonish harlot then hath Christ many bodies or else cannot three so diuers Churches as the Church of Rome the Church of England the Church of Geneua all or any two of them I will not say any one bee true Churches Thē he may be an husband where his wiues rule Infinit other absurdities would then proue lawful And let me adde yet this vnto the rest if the Baptisme of the Church of Rome be a true Sacrament then haue they one true Sacrament and another false Thus you wound the one party that is Master Doctor Some Then touching the Scholler of Oxenford hée is blamed for that he alleageth for his patron Master Doctor Fulke to proue that the Baptisme administred in popery is no true Baptisme And he is set to counteruaile Master Caluin as his equall in all learning Grieuous absurdities you shew in déede which must néeds follow from the opinion of the foresaid Scholler Touching the comparison betwéene Master Fulke and Master Caluine for my part I am not so learned as that I can bring a full measure to measure them iustly withall I know not what might slip from Doctor Fulke in any part of his writings vpon some occasion which may séeme as though he fauored that opiniō but this I know that sundry times crauing his iudgement in that matter he held it to be true Baptisme which hath béen administred in the popery And what a thing is this Master Barrow that