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A62298 An antidote against Quakerisme wherein these following questions are opened, the truth concerning them proved, the contrary arguments examined and confuted ... / by Stephen Scandrett ... Scandrett, Stephen, 1631?-1706. 1671 (1671) Wing S817; ESTC R34024 108,858 138

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covet That the Principles inclining hereunto are sins they are called sin dwelling in us To act no further then the Light that is in every man doth dictate is all one as to say I will not repent of the first motions of my heart to sin nor of any sinful principles in me I will not fly to Christs blood for pardon for them 3. This Light doth not dictate that Baptism by water is Gods will But God in Scripture commands Go Baptize In what sense Philip who could not be without the mind of Christ herein may assure our Consciences Acts 8 36 37. Look here is water But to go no further then the Light that is in every man doth dictate is as much as to say doest thou Lord command go Baptize I will not baptize nor be baptized 4. The Light that every man hath doth not dictate that we ought to celebrate the Lords Supper that is to meet to take bread signifying the body of Christ by institution and give thanks and break it and give and take and eat in remembrance of Christ to take Wine and having blessed give it signifying Christs blood by institution and take and drink to shew forth the Lords death But the Scriptures manifest this in all particulars clearly to be the mind and will of Christ and to the sanctified 1 Cor. 1.2 God in the Scripture commands 1 Cor. 11.24 25. Take eat do this To practice no further then what the Light that is in every man doth dictate is to say to a commanding God I will not take I will not eat And this in these four particulars is Rebellion Therefore that Person who having the Scriptures will practice no more then what the Light that is in every man doth dictate cannot be saved Have the commands of Christs no Authority over mens Consciences Or do his commands cease to be his commands for being written Doth not Christ say the word that I have spoken shall Judge you Jo. 12.48 And is not he resolved to take vengeance on them that obey not the Gospel 2 Thes 1.7.8 Truly these words Repent Believe Baptize Do this Yea and now by reduction Remember the Sabbath are though written not only the words of Christ but they are Gospel also Woe Woe to those Persons at the day of Judgement that are then found to have lived and dyed in Rebellion against Christs commands by these words These words shall Judge them and for disobeying the Gospel Christ will take vengeance on them To conclude blame was laid on Israel that of a long time they had not kept the Passeover as it was written 2 Chron. 30.5 But in Nehemiahs time the People of God finding it written that they should keep the feast of Tabernacles on this motive obeyed Neh. 8.14 And t is said v. 17. There was great gladness They were assured they pleased God in so doing And the mother of our Lord was careful after the daies of her Purification to offer a sacrifice as it was written Knowing it was written she knew she was bound and heartily obeyed These instances are in things the Light in all men doth not dictate as it doth not dictate Justification by Christs Righteousness Repentance and Faith in Christs blood for pardon of sinful motions of the heart and sinful Principles the observation of the Christian Sabbath Baptism and the Supper The former things instanced the Scriptures declare abolished These the Scriptures no where reveal they are abolished The God of all grace then open your understanding to see your duty and obey fully and not by halves that following God fully with Caleb and Joshua you may be accepted of the Lord. Your Truly well-wisher in Christ Jesus St. Scandrett Thus it appears the words I delivered in the Dispute taken in a right sense are no way in themselves derogatory to the Truth of God I am willing to hear defective because I did not fully explain my words in the dispute But I cannot but complain of disingenuity and falseness when I see p 4. They have given out that I should say This Light within might through the blessing of God with a good improvement save them that have not the Scriptures By what I have written it is clearly otherwise Quest I desire to answer one Query more to give full satisfaction touching inward Light 'T is this Is not the immediate teaching of the Spirit the highest and safest Rule to heaven Is it not safer to walk by the immediate teachings of the Spirit in our hearts than by the teaching of the Spirit in the Scripture and to entertain the spirits teachings in the Scripture no further then they agree with these than to entertain these no further than they agree with the Spirits teachings in the Scripture This Query is weighty And indeed the whole Controversie stated anew I must be large in the solution of it First Therefore I shall open the Terms then lay down my Answers 1. Let us remember nothing is a Rule to heaven but it Reveals Law and Gospel our whole Duty 2. Let us understand the ways of the Spirits teaching 1. He teacheth us Physically by enlightning our minds Thus Gods Spirit so assures our hearts that Jesus is Christ that there is no need in the least we should enquire of men the truth of it 1 John 2.27 The Anointing which ye have received abideth in you and ye need not that any man teach you John was confident Seducers should never be able to perswade them that Jesus was not the Christ Hence also Paul could curse an Angel that should preach any other Gospel than what he had delivered This Teaching is no Rule at all but an help to see the Rule 2. He teaches us Morally or Objectively propounding or setting before us Gods Mind or Will to embrace and walk by 1 John 14.26 The Comforter shall teach you all things and bring all things to your remembrance whatsoever I have said unto you These Teachings which take in the things taught are a Rule for we must walk according to them And of this way of the Spirits Teaching must we understand the Question 3. Let us be informed what is the immediate teaching of the Spirit There is a Mediate which is done by Means by the Scriptures as in the last mentioned The Spirit brings these to remembrance and thus we hear a word behind us saying this is the way walk in it when we turn to the right hand or to the left Isa 30.21 By the Ministry Thus the Spirit of Christ in the Prophets 1 Pet. 1.11 Testified to the Church beforehand the sufferings of Christ And by other means even by the works of Creation and the Light in every man propounding the Creation to be considered he helps us to conclude a God thence that he is to be worshipped c. I say Gods Spirit by these teacheth us for in him we live move and have our being without his help the world could not come into consideration without his
instituted Circumcision did he not threaten the man child not circumcised the eight day shall be cut off he hath broken my Covenant Gen. 17.14 These things are written for our example and for our learning for whom God hath instituted Baptism to be of that use to us that circumcision was of to the Jews The Lord hath said Call upon me fear me the same Lord God hath said Go teach Baptizing The Pharisees rejected the Counsel of God against themselves not submitting to this Ordinance Christ submitted to it whether shall we chose to imitate Christ or the Pharisees Whether the Lords Supper be an Ordinance of Christ binding us For this also take these two arguments Arg. 1. What is ordained of Christ for his Church and not abolished still binds but such is the Lords Supper It was Instituted by Christ Mat. 26.26 27. And as they were eating Jesus took bread and blessed it and brake it and gave it to the Disciples and said take eat this is my body And he took the Cup and gave thanks and gave it to them saying Drink ye all of it It was instituted for his Church 1 Cor 11.23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you v. 24. This do in remembrance of me He delivered the very command of Christ to them being a Church of Christ plainly discovering that they were all bound to the observance of it Let any shew now where did Christ ever repeal this Institution Ob. Divin of Christ Second part p. 50. The Apostles condescended to the low capacity of the Corinthians as not grown up to that spirituality to see through the outward shadows Their example is no President Answ 1. The Apostle delivered to them the command of Christ ver 24. This do ver 25. This do He warneth them of unworthiness under penalty of making themselves guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. He enjoyns them with due preparation to obey the commands of Christ ver 28. But let a man examine himself and so let him eat Is all this but an Indulgence or Sufferance Paul presseth to have the Institution of Christ in a right manner obeyed in his Church Answ 2. Could not the Corinthians see through the outward shadows were they not believers in Christ who is the substance of all the shadows were they not sanctified in Christ Jesus ch 1.2 Yet the Apostle enjoyns them obedience to the Institution of Christ Answ 3. Either the Apostle did deliver to them the commands of Christ or not and they were to obey the Apostles commands as the comands of Christ or not If they were to obey the Apostles comands as the comands of Christ then are they to be our President For we are to obey the commands of Christ as well as they Here is no manifestation of a repeal Ob. It could not in reason or truth be enjoyned all others that succeed who spiritually enjoy the Communion of the body and blood of Christ where none of their disorders have any place Answ 1. This Objection seems to yield that Christ ordained the Supper for weak Coristians who are subject to Disorders but not for strong and the Corinthians are a President for such weak Christians Then why at least do not those who look on themselves as Teachers from Christ among Quakers enjoyn as Paul did such weak ones to partake of this Ordinance Are there no weak ones among them Answ 2. Will this man take himself to be wiser than Christ and wiser than the Holy Ghost who inspired Paul to enjoyn the Corinthians according to the institution of Christ There was not one sanctified Corinthian but had Communion with the Body and Blood of Christ And many of them were well grounded in Grace ch 1. v. 5. In every thing ye are enriched by him in all utterance and in all knowledge and yet these even these are enjoyned to partake of the Lords Supper Will he say the Holy Ghost did not act in reason or in truth Answ 3. A grown Christian may grow more and he that hath Communion with Christ may have further Communion and he that is strong may yet have more strength and so by this Ordinance be further and further helped on to Salvation There doth appear then very good reason why the Holy Ghost should enjoyn strong Christians this duty of partaking the Supper Ob. p. 51. They who know a beginning in the Spirit ought to wait for this spiritual appearance and coming of Christ and not turn back again to shadows Ans 1. He condemns Pauls practice which he approved of before If condescending Paul acted according to the mind of Christ then true Ministers ought thus to condescend and put weak believers upon receiving the Supper that they might act also according to the mind of Christ ●e ye followers of us saith he as we also are of Christ But if weak believers must not partake of it because a shadow then Paul should not have condescended to give them the Lords Command putting them upon receiving examine your selves and so eat Will this man become Pauls Teacher and pretend to know Christs will better then Paul Ans 2. According to this Doctrine the Corinthians ought to have rejected the commands of Christ by Paul Do this let a man examine himself and so eat We do know a beginning in the Spirit and must we return to shadows Ans 3. As if partaking of the Supper were inconsistent with waiting for a more full manifestation of Christ or Naaman washing in Jordan could not expect from God a cure of his Leprosic It is the duty of all believers in the use of means which the Lord hath appointed to expect his presence and his blessing and in the use of such means it may be had If God appoint the blowing of Rams horns in their obedience Israel may expect the fall of Jerico's walls And so in the use of the Supper it being of the Lords own appointment we may expect his gracious presence 1 Cor. 10.16 The Cup of blessing which we bless is it not the Communion of the blood of Christ We may expect the confirmation of our faith touching pardon Mat. 26.28 This is my blood of the new Testament which is shed for many for the remission of sins Answ 4. Though it be a shadow yet an Evangelical shadow a shadow of the Lords own appointing and which he never yet repealed And shall not this be dear to every gracious soul Who is not bound to uphold the unrepealed ordinances of Jesus Christ As every Jew was bound to uphold the Passeover in a Holy manner till Christs death did put an end to it So is every Christian bound to uphold the Lords Supper Christ having neither done nor said any thing to cause the celebration there to cease And therefore where the Lords unrepealed ordinance are contemned they may talk of Christs spiritual appearance but they may wait long enough and with small hope to obtain The Lord