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A64359 A friendly debate between a Roman Catholick and a Protestant concerning the doctrine of transubstantiation wherein the said doctrine is utterly confuted, and Antichrist is clearly and fully described, and his inevitable destruction predicted : with a challenge to all the Romish doctors that preach and teach the said doctrine, to answer it. Tenison, Thomas, 1636-1715. 1688 (1688) Wing T698; ESTC R38802 90,615 48

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A FRIENDLY DEBATE BETWEEN A Roman Catholick AND A PROTESTANT Concerning the Doctrine of TRANSUBSTANTIATION WHEREIN The said Doctrine is utterly Confuted and Antichrist is clearly and fully Described and his inevitable Destruction predicted With a Challenge to all the Romish Doctors that Preach and Teach the said Doctrine to Answer it LICENSED September 24. 1688. LONDON 〈…〉 A FRIENDLY DEBATE BETWEEN A Roman Catholick AND A PROTESTANT CONCERNING THE Doctrine of TRANSUBSTANTIATION c. PRotestant Sir Do you believe that there is a Real Change wrought upon the Elements of Bread and Wine after they are Consecrated by the Priest in the Sacrament of the Eucharist into the Substantial Material Living Body and Blood of Christ which makes up his Real Person to wit of Body Soul and Divinity Roman Catholick Yes Sir I do believe that the Elements are Transubstantiated into the very living person of Christ to wit of Body Soul and Divinity that is into the very same Body which he assumed before he died the same Body in which he suffered and died upon the Cross without the Gates of Jerusalem the same Body that laid in the Grave three days and the very same Body in which he ascended up into Glory and is sat down at the right hand of God in Glory Prot. I must confess Sir according to the genuine sense of your Doctrine of Transubstantiation it must be so or else it is a mere sham and mockery For if the Elements be Transubstantiated into the very Body Soul and Divinity of Christ and then be offered up a sacrifice propitiatory and sufficient for the sins of the living and the dead then Christ must be alive or else you do offer a dead sacrifice But I do utterly deny it and therefore Sir I 〈…〉 Rom. Yes Sir I will prove it by Scripture from our Saviour Christ's own words and also from the words of the Apostle St. Paul. Prot. Pray Sir let me hear that Rom. First of all I shall prove it from our Saviour Christ himself by the words of Institution when he Instituted this Ordinance of the Sacrament of the Eucharist Luke 22.19 20. And as they were cating Jesus took bread and blessed it and brake it and gave it to the Disciples and said Take eat this is my Body Likewise the cup after supper saying This cup is the new-testament in my blood Matt. 26.26 27 28. And as they were eating Jesus took bread and blessed it and brake it and gave it to the Disciples and said Take eat this is my body And he took th● cup and gave thanks and gave it to them for this ●● my blood of the new testament which is shed for many for the remission of sins And in John 6.52 53 54 I am the living bread which came down from heaven if any man eat of this bread he shall live for every And the bread that I will give is my flesh which I wi●● give for the life of the world Then Jesus said unto them Verily verily I say unto you except ye eat th●● flesh of the son of man and drink his blood ye have 〈◊〉 life in you Whoso eateth my flesh and drinketh m● blood hath eternal life and I will raise him up at th● last day Thus you see I have clearly 〈◊〉 〈…〉 That it is Christ's Real Body and Blood that we do eat and drink in the Sacrament of the Eucharist And secondly I shall prove this Doctrine from the Apostle St. Paul's words also in the 1 Cor. 11.24.25 where he saith Take Eat this is my Body which is broken for you After the same manner also he took the Cup when he had supped saying This Cup is the New Testament in my Blood. Thus you see I have proved this Doctrine of Transubstantiation by Scripture and I could also prove it by Councils and Decrees and Canons and Traditions of our Fathers and the like And besides all that has been said it is an Article of the faith of our Church which is infallible and cannot err And we are bound to believe as the Church believes and commands us to believe And therefore this Doctrine must be infallibly true Prot. Sir is this all that you have to say to prove this Doctrine of your Infallible Church Rom. Yes Sir and I think it is a sufficient proof of it too Prot. Why then I pray Sir Give me leave to answer you as well as I can from Scripture and from Reason also Rom. Yes Sir with all my Heart Prot. Why first of all Sir in the first place give me leave to tell ye you have not taken the whole verses or sentence in some of these Scriptures which you have quoted you have gone away with part of a Text even so far as will serve your turn which is a very dangerous thing for it is no less than to clip the King of Heavens Coyn which is Spiritual High Treason which is the worst of Treason and is punishable with no less than all the Curses of the Book of the Holy Word of God without true Repentance Rev. 22.18 19. Deut. 4.2 Prov. 30.6 Sir you know Satan when he tempted our Blessed Saviour Christ he quoted part of a Text of Scripture to serve his own turn Matth. 4.5 6. Then the Devil taketh him up into the holy City and setteth him on a pinacle of the Temple and saith unto him If thou be the Son of God cast thy self down for it is written He shall give his Angels charge concerning thee and in their hands they shall bear thee up lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone 'T is written saith Satan quoting Psal 91.11 12. for he shall give his Angels charge over thee to keep thee in all thy ways they shall bear thee up in their hands lest thou dash thy foot against a stone The Devil leaves out that part of the Text to wit He shall keep thee in all thy ways Sir you do own and believe these Scriptures which you have quoted to be understood literally and properly and not Mystically and Spiritually but according to the plain letter of them Rom. Yes Sir I do for the Text is plain and clear Prot. Now Sir I will answer you from the words of our Saviour Christ in the same Chapters and in some of the same verses which you have quoted and also from the words of the Apostle Paul in that same Chapter which you have made use of and also in many other places of the Holy Scriptures whereby you shall see by God's assistance this Doctrine of yours overthrown and utterly confuted therefore let us bring it to the Touchstone of Gods Word To the Law and to the Testimony if they speak not according to this word it is because there is no light in them Isa 8.20 1. First of all By the words of our Blessed and only Mediator and Redeemer in Luk. 22.19 20. And he took Bread and gave thanks and brake it and gave it unto them saying
This is my Body which is broken for you so far you go but you leave out and omit this do in Remembrance of me likewise also the Cup after Supper saying This Cup is the New Testament in my Blood which is shed for you Mat. 26.26 27. And as they were cating Jesus took Bread and blessed it and brake it and gave it to the Disciples and said Take Eat this is my Body and he took the Cup and gave thanks and gave it to them saying Drink ye all of it Here pray Sir observe by the way that it is said that Christ took Bread and blessed it and brake it and gave it to the Disciples what is to be understood by this word it why it was it Bread for had it been Christ's Real Corporeal Substantial Body it should have been more properer thus He took the Bread and blessed him and brake him and gave him to the Disciples And he took the Cup and gave Thanks and gave it to them saying Drink ye all of it Now if your Doctrine were true then it should have been After Christ had given Thanks he gave him to them saying Drink ye all of him and not drink ye all of it that is all the Congregation both Minister and People that are Christ's true Disciples must all partake of the Cup or Wine in the Sacrament of the Lords-Supper But by what Authority your Priests are so uncharitable as to deny the Lay-people the Cup I know not when as our Saviour Christ commands expresly that all his Disciples must drink of it that is of the Wine in the Cup and not of his Material Blood that was then running in his Humane veins and the Cup may rather be taken for the Blood of Christ than the Wine if it be to be understood literally because the Cup only is mentioned and not the Wine for it is said This Cup is the New Testament in my Blood which is shed for you Christ himself did partake of this Holy Ordinance at the same time when he did institute it The same night in which he was betrayed But now if your Doctrine be true then Christ did eat his own Substantial Body and drink his own Material Blood and yet was visible with his Disciples before their Eyes without any alteration in the least It is said His Blood is shed for many for the remission of sins And yet then at that time Christ had not actually and properly shed his Blood but virtually in the Decree of God he had done it before the foundation of the world for all those that ever were saved before Christ came in the flesh and for all that ever should be saved after he came in the flesh down throughout all Ages to the end of the world 1 Pet. 1.20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world but was manifested in these last times for you Revel 13.8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him whose names are not written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world Act. 2.23 Him being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledg of God ye have taken and by wicked hands have Crucified and slain This Ordinance of the Lords-Supper is to be kept up and practised in the Churches of God for a Remembrance of Christ's Death and Passion from them words of our Saviour which words you omit and leave out namely Do this in Remembrance of me as will yet further appear by and by from the Apostle St. Paul's words when he celebrated this Holy Ordinance of the Lords-Supper in the Church of Corinth But again from our Saviour's words which you do take and interpret as if spoken literally whereon you lay so much stress and make it serve for a foundation to build this Doctrine of Transubstantiation upon which was spoken before the Ordinance of the Lords-Supper was Instituted by our Saviour himself in Joh. 6.51 53 54. I am the living Bread which came down from Heaven if any man eat of this Bread he shall live for ever And the Bread that I will give is my flesh which I will give for the life of the world Then Jesus said unto them Verily verily I say unto you Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood ye have no life in you Whoso eateth my flesh and drinketh my blood hath Eternal life and I will raise him up at the last day Here you see it is Whoso eateth my flesh and drinketh my blood c. How so what is the meaning of that word of our Saviour Christ viz. Whoso eateth c why this refers to what Christ had been speaking before in the same Chapter which leads to this Discourse of Eating his flesh and drinking his blood in setting out the usefulness and excellency of the Grace of Faith and the absolute necessity of it vers 35 40 47 48. here you shall see that this Whoso eateth Christs flesh and drinketh his blood is this viz. Whosoever believeth in Christ and resteth upon him alone for Spiritual life here and Eternal life in Glory hereafter Pray mark the words of our Saviour And Jesus said unto them I am the bread of life he that cometh to me shall never hunger and he that believeth on me shall never thirst And this is the will of him that sent me that every one which seeth the Son and believeth on him may have everlasting life and I will raise him up at the last day Verily verily I say unto you he that believeth on me hat● everlasting life I am that bread of life What bread of life Why that bread which by faith in his Righteousness and Merits alone justifies and acquits the soul from the guilt and pollution of sin without any works or righteousness of ours in conjunction or i● competition with Christ's for he will have no Rival he will have all the honour of saving a sinner t● himself for he is made the only Spiritual bread o● flesh for the new creature to live upon and it is nourished and strengthened thereby even as our natural bodies are fed and nourished and strengthened by our natural food Joh. 3.16 For God so loved t●● world that he gave his only begotten Son that whose ever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life It is not said here whosoever eateth the material flesh of Christ shall be saved but whosoever believeth on Christ shall have Everlasting li●● Our Lord Jesus Christ is the only Spiritual bread for every believing soul to live and feed upon Spiritually by the mouth of faith But you will say Here is a plain Text of Scripture for your Doctrine viz. This is the Bread which cometh down from Heaven that a man may eat thereof and not did I am the living bread which came down from Heaven 〈◊〉 any man eat of this bread he shall live for ever and t●● bread that I will give is my flesh which I
hear how our Saviour Christ hath expounded his own meaning who spake as never man spake like him he has given a clear interpretation of these mystical Scriptures afore mentioned that this eating of his flesh and drinking of his blood is to be understood Symbolically Spiritually and Sacramentally by faith to Commemorate the great love of God in the Transaction of mans Redemption by the Death and Sufferings of our Lord Jesus Christ But thus much for the words of our Saviour Christ for the present But secondly in the second place let us hear the full of what the Apostle Paul saith unto this Doctrine also for give me leave to tell ye Sir that you have quoted but part of the Apostle's words you have curtailed his words also in the 1 Cor. 11.23 25 26. For I have received of the Lord that which also I deliver unto you that the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread and when he had given thanks he brake it and said Take this my body Thus far you go Take Eat this my body what Body was that why it was Christ's Sacramental Body namely the Bread and Wine which are the Signs of his Body which prefigures out unto us his real material Body which was Crucified without the Gates of Jerusalem it is to Commemorate the Death and Sufferings of Christ and all the Benefits and Blessings which did flow forth unto poor lost and undone fallen man for all that ever did believe or that ever should believe in him and expect eternal life and salvation upon the account of his Righteousness and Merits alone through the aid and agency of the Eternal blessed and holy Spirit and all this comes flowing unto us from that Blessed fountain of all the Christians Mercies namely the Eternal love of God the Father which was the efficient or first moving cause of all And as the Glorious Trinity had all a hand in making man so they all have a hand in redeeming man. But again this is that Body which was evidently set forth Crucified before the Galatians eyes Gal. 3.1 It was the Representation of Christ's Crucified Body in the Sacrament of the Lords-Supper among the Galatians and not the Real Crucifixion of his Substantial Body without the Gates of Jerusalem And this is that Body which the Apostle saith Take Eat this my body that was his Sacramental body or the sign of his body In the Sacrament of the Lords Supper that was crucified and nothing else and this is that body which all true believers in the Sacrament do discern and partake of and eat now in the Churches of Christ and all this is done by faith in a holy Reverential Remembrance of Christ to shew forth his Death till he come After the same manner also he took the Cup when he had supped saying This Cup is the New Testament in my blood this do ye as often as ye drink it in remembrance Which latter words you always omit and take no notice at all of them which words carry great weight in them if you would but be so kind unto your own souls as to adhere unto them for saith the Apostle As often as ye eat this Bread and drink this Cup ye do shew the Lords Death till he come This Ordinance was Instituted by our Saviour Christ himself the same night in which he was betrayed And at that time Christ did partake of i● with his Disciples so that if your Doctrine o● Transubstantiation be true then Christ must make his body at that time and eat himself body soul● and Divinity and so he had two bodies one to ea● with and the other to be eaten or otherwise h● must give the same body which he was then in unto his Disciples to eat and to drink nay that 〈◊〉 not all for he must eat his own body and yet 〈◊〉 visible at the Table with them at the same time nay that is not all for he must eat all his Disciple or Members and also all his Members that parta●● of this Ordinance must eat him for every true believer is in Christ and Christ is in them nay th● is not all for every true believer when he partake● of this Ordinance according to your Doctrine m● not only eat Christ carnally but he must also 〈◊〉 his own self Nay that is not all for he must 〈◊〉 the Church too for all is in Christ and Christ is God. I in them saith our Saviour and thou in 〈◊〉 that they may be one as thou art one And in the 1 〈◊〉 10.16 17. The cup of blessing which we bless is it 〈◊〉 the communion of the blood of Christ the bread which break is it not the communion of the body of Christ 〈◊〉 we being many are one bread and one body for we 〈◊〉 all partakers of that one bread Here the Church called bread and it is called body also as our 〈◊〉 viour Christ is in the Sacrament and at the Sacrament also in 〈…〉 once more Every individual person that partaketh of this Ordinance must eat the body of Christ singly and intirely or else they divide Christ and so eat but a part of a Christ as you Laicks do for you have but a very dry lifeless Christ that hath not one drop of blood in his veins so that so many partakers so many Christs there must be which must be a jolly company of them indeed But Christ as he was God did make or prepare his own material body Heb. 10. but whither will these Absurdities hurry us I could name many more that this Doctrine affords us some of which will necessarily and consequentially fall in my way in the remaining part of my Discourse Secondly Again in the next place this Ordinance is to be kept up and celebrated during Christ's absence until some eminent and glorious appearance of his in his Churches which appearance I humbly conceive under correction will ●ender this Ordinance useless by the Apostle's words viz. Ye do shew the Lords Death till he come that is until Christ come I do not remember that I tread that Christ after he Instituted this Ordinance did ever partake of it himself nor his Disciples neither during Christ's personal presence with them until after his Ascension And this Ordinance doth also shew unto the world ●he great undertaking of Christ who trod the Wine-press of God's wrath alone and of the people there was none with him he bore the wrath of God for sin that was due unto sinners that poor sinners might be made partakers of the love and grace of God he was made a curse for sinners Gal. 3.13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the Law being made a curse for us for it is written Cursed is every ●ne that hangeth on a tree He bore the curse to purchase the blessing of Eternal life and Salvation for all that believe in him And this is that which will mightily aggravate the condemnation of the wicked world
not flesh and bones as ye see me have And whe●● he had thus spoken he shewed them his hands an●● his feet And if yours be a Real Christ he cou●● speak now as well as he did then or as he will wh● he cometh to Judge the World when he will c●● for Antichrist the Man of Sin who is his great● enemy and call for all the false Prophets and Dis●ples that do belong unto him to give an acco●● for all their Idolatry and Cruelty and will then 〈◊〉 unto them all But those mine enemies that would 〈◊〉 that I should reign over them bring hither and 〈◊〉 them before me Luke 19.27 Now if you cou●● prove by clear and undeniable evidence that ev●● this Transubstantiated Christ of yours did speak 〈◊〉 any person at any time or times and gave a●● directions among persons about matters and for●● of Worship in Churches seeing there is so mu●● difference in the World about it then th● might be something said unto it in vindication of it But seeing that no such thing can 〈◊〉 proved there is no Authority at all to give the l●●● countenance or credit unto that 〈…〉 ●hat obtrudes such a silent mute sort of Christ upon the people that is altogether speechless and also ●●uitless unto those that expect to receive any benefit ●●y him 5. Fifthly and lastly After all that has been said 〈◊〉 will Challenge any of all your Priests that pretend ●o have this Infallible knack of working this Mira●le or Change upon the Wafer or bit of Bread and ●he Cup of Wine To take a Consecrated Transubstantiated Wafer or bit of Bread and likewise the ●onsecrated Cup of Wine and let the Wafer be put ●mong a parcel of Wafers of the very same make ●hat are not Consecrated nor Transubstantiated and ●kewise let the Cup of Wine be put among other ●ups of Wine that are not Consecrated and let but ●ome other person that will be but faithful and honest ●ix them together and take good notice to himself which it is that is Consecrated and shift the Wine ●to another Cup and unless the Priest have any ●rivate mark upon the Wafer or any private notice ●iven him which is the Wine the Priest himself ●at Consecrated them shall not know which it is ●or discern any difference that there is between the ●●ne and the other between the consecrated and the ●nconsecrated neither in colour bigness nor by ●eight it shall not weigh one dram more after ●onsecration than it did before And is not this a ●ry strange thing think ye that there should be ●●ch a great Change as this is wrought upon the Ele●ents viz. from a little Wafer and Cup of Wine ●●to the real Body Soul and Divinity of Christ and ●●t that it should not be known nor discerned in ●●e least from the rest of the Wafers and Wine ●ither by sight nor by weight nor by any the least ●eration to be discerned or discovered upon the Ac●dents when as they pretend to Transubstantiate it ●●to the very person of Christ composed and made 〈◊〉 of Body Soul and Divinity and then they of●● him up a Sacrifice sufficient and propitiatory for ●●e sins of the living and the dead But in the next place I shall produce you two ●●ry great Miracies which this Doctrine of Tran●●stantiation does afford us which is essentially in 〈◊〉 very Bowels or Womb of it 1. And the first is this namely That it is no less ●●n a very prodigious Miracle and amazing Won●● that ever any persons whom God hath endew●● with Senses Reason Understanding and all o●●● Faculties and Intellectuals proper to Man and ●●s great a measure as to any other men whatsoever should yet suffer themselves to be so ●●●ribly imposed upon and expose or rather aban●●● all that is dear unto them to follow a false ●●●ist which is to depart from the true one to be●●● such a piece of Ridiculous nonsensical Do●●●ne which Travelleth with Contradictions and 〈◊〉 forth nothing but monstrous Absurdities Surely persons must sacrifice all the rational part of humanity or at least postpone it before ever they can be brought or persuaded to assent and consent unto any such kind of Doctrine They must wholly unman themselves And is not this a very great Miracle think ye 2. Secondly The second Miracle which this Doctrine does afford us is almost as great as the former namely this that the Priests should ever have the boldness to make such an invasion upon mens senses reason and understanding and have the confidence to impose such horrible absurdities and rediculous nonsence upon the people that is so full of contradictions in it self and made of a strong delusion that is contrary to the Holy Scripture and contrary to your own Creed and contrary to Sense and Reason and contrary to the very Nature of Miracles for altho Miracles are above Sense and Reason yet such is the nature of them that the first thing they do after they are brought forth is to see that mens Senses and Reason and Understanding are satisfied with the reallity of it or else it can be no Miracle For how can a person admire and wonder at a thing that is common which he seeth no change in nor alteration upon Tho it is true God's end and design in working of Miracles was infinitely higher for it was for the confirmation and establishing the Churches for the Ages that were to come and for the good of God's people and for the greater aggravation of the condemnation of Christ's enemies But yet still the people saw these Miracles when they were wrought and were satisfied with the truth and reallity of them and many were convinced and converted by them John 11.42 43 44 45. Now if a Man should tell me that he is flying in the Air when I see him go along the street upon the ground as I my self do why this begets no manner of wonder in me except it should be at the Man's Impudence and for his lying ridiculous Nonsence But if a Man did really fly in the Air and I saw him do it that would be a Miracle ay altho he should tell me that he was then walking in the Street Now in such Cases as these are Seeing is always to be preferred before Believing So that this Doctrine of yours is but a meer fancy a dream or rather indeed as the Apostle phrases it A strong delusion and lying wonder 2 Thess 2. In the last place our Saviour Christ called it Bread after he had blessed it and called the Wine Cup after he had given thanks and the Apostle called it Bread and Cup after Consecration or Blessing of them when he did exhibit them unto the People 1 Cor. 10.16 17. The cup of blessing which we bless is it not the communion of the blood of Christ the bread which we break is it not the communion of the body of Christ For me being many are one bread 〈◊〉 one body for we
are all partakers of that one bread Believers have Communion with a Crucified Saviour in this Ordinance by Faith in him and Love to him And our Saviour Christ and the Apostles gave both the Bread and the Wine unto all the Members that did partake as well to the Lay-People as to the Ecclesiasticks without any the least Exception in them words of our Saviour's command Drink ye all of it and you will hear that it is called Bread and breaking of Bread in several places of the Sacred Scripture Acts 2.42 And they continued stedfast in the Apostles doctrine and fellowship and in breaking of bread and in prayers 1 Cor. 10.16 17. The cup of blessing which we bless is it not the communion of the blood of Christ The bread which we break is it not the communion of the body of Christ For we being many are one bread and one body for we are all partakers of that one bread that is Christ the Bread of Life Here it is said Communion with the Blood and with the Bread that is thus Believers have Communion with a crucified Redeemer and Communion and Fellowship one with another in that Holy Ordinance of the Lords Supper As you may see in the same Chapter 20 21. verses all those that make a Sacrifice of the Ordinance of the Lords Supper have fellowship with Devils But in the 17 verse there the true Gospel-Church is called Bread and so is Christ her Head also both the Head and the Body which is the Church are called Bread. And in Acts 20.7 And upon the first day of the week when the Disciples came together to break bread Paul preached unto them ready to depart on the morrow Thus you see it was called Bread and not Flesh both in the first Institution of the Ordinance by our Saviour Christ himself and likewise by the Apostles at the Celebration of this Holy Ordinance among the Disciples Therefore this eating of Christ's Body and drinking his Blood is to be understood no otherwise than our Saviour Christ intended and appointed it which was Spiritual and Sacramental for to commemorate his death and sufferings and all the blessed fruits and effects that do flow therefrom into the souls of Believers There is a feeding upon Christ in every Spiritual Gospel-Ordinance of God in Religious Worship and Discipline by Faith the Gospel-Ordinances are a feast of fat things full of marrow of wine from the lees well refined as the Prophet Isaiah calls it and on them the souls of Believers do feed and feast with and upon the Lord Jesus Christ And this feeding upon Christ's Body and drinking his Blood in the Sacrament of the Lords-Supper as well as in all other Ordinances of the Gospel aforesaid is to be done by faith as I have already proved for every believing soul doth live upon Christ by faith who is 〈…〉 of Scriptures to prove the veracity or truth of th● same and here following I shall lay down some fe●● Scriptures instead of many which do import an●● clearly manifest the same and I will begin wit●● Joh. 8.24 I said therefore unto you that ye shall die 〈◊〉 your sins for if ye believe not that I am he ye shall d●●● in your sins 1 Joh. 3.23 And this is his Comman●ment that we should believe on the name of his Son Jes●● Christ Here is God the Father's command for i●● Christ doth not say If you do not eat me Body Soul and Divinity ye shall die but if you do n●● believe that I am he ye shall die in your sins because ye believed not that I am he because ye d●● not obey me nor my Father's command as if ou●● Saviour should have said Rom. 10.9 10. That 〈◊〉 thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus and sha●● believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead thou shalt be saved for with the heart ma●● believeth unto righteousness and with the mouth confession is made unto Salvation Act. 16.30 31. Whe● the sturdy Jaylor was convinced he said Sirs Wha● must I do to be saved The Apostles did not tell him that he must go and eat Christ's substantial Body No but they told him that he must believe on th● Lord Jesus Christ and he should be saved and his house Joh. 12.46 I am come a light into the world tha● whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness Joh. 17.3 And this is Life Eternal that they might know the only true God and Jesus Christ whom thou has● sent How must they know God and Christ so a● they might have Eternal Life why only by believing in him Joh. 20.21 But these are written that ye might believe that Jesus ss the Christ the Son of God and believing ye might have life through his name Joh. 3.16 17 36. For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life For God se●● not his Son into the world to condemn the world but tha● the world through him might be saved He that believet● on the Son hath eternal life and he that believeth n●● the Son shall not see life but the wrath of God abide● on him Joh. 5.24 Verily verily I say unto you 〈◊〉 that believeth on him that sent me hath everlasting lif● and shall not come into condemnation but is passed from death unto life Joh. 6.29 Jesus answered and fa●● unto them This is the work of God that ye believe 〈◊〉 him whom he hath sent Thus you see dear Sir that I have answered yo● fully and clearly and I have faithfully prove from the Holy Bible which is my only Library and also I have proved from Reason for God dea●eth with us as Rational Creatures that our Saviour Christ is to be eaten and drunken by faith and i● love Spiritually and Sacramentally in that Ho●● Ordinance of the Lords-Supper for it is a Lov● feast in remembrance of the greatest love that 〈…〉 gave his only begotten Son to die for it and this ●ove of Christ that was stronger than death we are ●o commemorate in that Ordinance by feeding by ●aith upon a Crucified Saviour and not to eat him Corporeally and Substantially in his Person as you of the Roman Catholick Perswasion do vainly pretend to believe and imagine the Lord inlighten your minds in the true Knowledg of Christ and sanctifie your understandings and change your wills and make you willing in the day of his power for this is a very dangerous gross Error and such a one as cannot be parallell'd but in the case of the poor blind Jews for by this Doctrine of Personal Priests and Material Altars and Sacrifices you do put your selves back from under the Gospel dispensation and lay your selves under the Mosaical Law and the consequence of it is this it is inevitably and clearly a down-right denying Jesus Christ being come in the Flesh Pray Sir Consider what I have said and so
will give f●● the life of the world that is that all Believers shou●● live Spiritually by the blessed fruits and effects whi●● is produced by Christs taking flesh upon him T●● Jews they were offended at this Mystical Spiritual Doctrine of Christ because it was not given 〈◊〉 them to believe the Jews therefore strove amo● themselves saying How can this man give us his f●● to eat as indeed well they might if it had b● to be understood literally and properly as they ●●nally and vainly through unbelief did conceive 〈◊〉 imagin that the words was spoken Then Jesus 〈◊〉 unto them Verily verily I say unto you Except you the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood ye 〈◊〉 no life in you And in vers 60. there Christ's D●●ples were stumbled and offended at this Doctrine saying of his Many therefore of his Disciples where had heard this said This is an hard saying who can h●● But now I pray Sir mind strictly the wo●● our Saviour and you shall hear how plainly clearly he himself has expounded and unfolded his own meaning unto us of this eating his 〈◊〉 and drinking his blood in the 61 62 63. 〈◊〉 When Jesus knew in himself that his Disciples mur●● at it he said unto them Doth this offend you wh●● if ye shall see the Son of Man ascend up where he 〈◊〉 fore it is the spirit that quickeneth the flesh p●● nothing the words that I speak unto you they are and they are life As if our Blessed Lord and Saviour should said Do you think that I intend by 〈◊〉 ●hat I have spoken unto you to cut and carve out ●he flesh of my real substantial and finite body ●nd give it unto you to eat And likewise broach ●●y material blood and let that out of my ●eins and give it unto you to drink for if I should ●o so it would not quicken you unto spiritual life ●● must be my Spirit that must do that and not my ●esh for the flesh profiteth nothing But besides ●●l that with what body must I suffer in and die ●● redeem the World in And with what body ●●all I arise in from the dead And with what body ●●all I ascend up into glory in where I was before ●amely where I was before ever I assumed this marial finite body made of material flesh and blood ● Act. 1.9 there is his Ascention and in Heb. 10.5 there ●his Body which God the Father prepared for him And again if Christ's substantial body be eaten ●●d his real material blood be drunken literally in 〈◊〉 Sacrament of the Eucharist then consequential●● must Christ's sinless spotless holy body see corruption which is Diametrically contrary to the ●●ly Word of God both in the Old Testament and 〈◊〉 New Psal 16.10 11. For thou wilt not leave my 〈◊〉 in hell neither wilt thu suffer thine holy One to see corruption Acts 2.26 27 31. Therefore did my heart ●●●yce and my tongue was glad moreover also my flesh 〈◊〉 rest in hope Because thou wilt not leave my soul in 〈◊〉 neither wilt thou suffer thine holy One to see cor●●●ion He seeing this before spake of the resurrection Christ that his soul was not left in hell neither his 〈◊〉 did see corruption Now Sir if this Doctrine yours of Transubstantiation in your sense be 〈◊〉 why then Christ the Holy one of God whose ●●less nature was without the least Tincture of 〈◊〉 or any kind of inclination thereunto must see ●●●ption ay and must be turned into corruption 〈◊〉 yea and that into the very worst sort of ma●●l corruption namely into Man's Excrements ●nto Man's Dung and that as often as the 〈◊〉 saith the Mass For I pray you what does be●●●e of what we do eat and drink Is it not turned corruption Ay and the Body that eats it too 〈◊〉 be turned into Corruption Meat is for the 〈◊〉 and the Belly for Meat but both are for ●●●ption or Destruction And pray mind what ●aviour saith of what we do eat in Matt. 15.17 ●●t ye yet understand that whatsoever entereth in at ●outh goeth into the belly and is cast into the ●●●ht I could be larger here as well as in most ●●e rest of these points but I must consult bre●●or as I hope a publick good and leave the 〈◊〉 to expatiate upon it in his own mind thō resolved to write the most part of the Scrip●●●● that I have occasion to quote at length and ●●eatest reason for it is this because that it may ●●entially fall into the hands of some perhaps 〈…〉 keep one or look into it and for their sakes I do not repent my labour that this may put them upon getting the holy Bible and looking into it to see if these things be so or no Acts 17.11 These were more noble than those in Thessulonica in that they received the word with all readiness of mind and searched the Scriptures daily whether those things were so The Holy Scriptures are able to make persons wise unto salvation 2 Tim. 3.15 which is the greatest wisdom of all John 5.39 Search the Scriptures for in them ye think ye have eternal life and they are they which testifie of me Christ expresly commands us to search the Scriptures But your Church expresly forbids it Who shall we obey Christ who is Infallible or your Church which pretends to be so Again Our Saviour Christ has but one humane body and that is a finite body Heb. 4.15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities but was in all points tempted like as we are yet without sin And therefore our Saviour's Body was not to see corruption because it never did see sin so as to be tainted in the least measure with it and therefore Christ could never have died had it not been for the sins of his people because the wages of sin is death And if Christ will take Believers sins upon him he must take the wages also that was due unto them And therefore it is said that he tasted death for every man that is for every man that ever did or that ever should believe in him But because his sin was by imputation and not inherent in his nature as ours is but only by imputation therefore tho he tasted death for every man and by that took the curse or sting that is in death away for all Believers yet his holy Body did not see corruption Death could not hold him because there was no sin in him but it was upon him by imputation as Sinners are made righteous even so Christ was made a sinner for as Sinners are made righteous by the Righteousness of Christ imputed unto them so Christ was made a Sinner by imputing our sins unto him but not by Contamination or Pollution but as a Surety for if Christ had had no more sin upon him than he had in him he could never have died it had been impossible for it would have been
inconsistent with the Justice of God Isa 53.5 6 10. But he was wounded for our transgressions he was bruised for our iniquities the chastisement of our peace was upon him and with his stripes we are healed All we like sheep have gone astray we have turned every one to his own way and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him he hath put him to grief when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin But this of our Saviour Christ's giving his flesh to eat and his blood to drink must be understood Symbolically and Sacramentally by Faith it is the sign of Christ's 〈…〉 had not Christ taken humane flesh upon him and died for sinners the whole species of the humane race had perished and been lost as all the fallen Angels were and not one soul had ever been saved and so his flesh and blood became meat and drink unto us to live upon him by faith alone who do share in all these benefits and blessings which came by Christ's taking flesh and blood upon him and is not such a wonderful great mercy as this is worthy of a holy thankful remembrance which is the principal end and design of Christ in his Instituting of this Ordinance and ought to be ours in partaking of it for if our Saviour Christ had given us his material flesh to eat and his real blood to drink it would have availed us nothing And thus are the words of our Saviour to be understood in that 6. Joh. in retort to the carnal conception of the unbelieving Jews as well as to his unbelieving Disciples which dreamed even as you do of the Roman Catholick faith that Christ spake of giving them his real substantial body to eat and his real blood to drink said the Jews How can this man give us his flesh to eat and said the Disciples This is an hard saying who can bear it But mind narrowly our Saviour's own words viz. It is the spirit that quickeneth the flesh profiteth nothing the words that I speak unto you they are spirit and they are life It is the Spirit that begetteth faith in every true Believer and that quickeneth the new Creature or Babe of Grace after it is begotten and born of God in its first quicknings or formation and in its after-quicknings for it is of the seed Royal of Heaven Psal 89.29 and it is conveyed unto us through Jesus Christ by his holy Spirit and so we come to be made alive to God and are Children of the most High for God is the Father of Spirits and the only Spiritual Father of all that believe in Jesus Christ his only Son from all Eternity by Generation for all the rest of Gods Sons of humane race are his Sons by Adoption and Regeneration and all this is effected and brought about through the agency and aid of the Holy and ever Blessed and Eternal Spirit and therefore that which is thus begotten and born of God must be Spiritual for as Adam begot a Son in his own likeness who was himself of the Earth and Earthly so God begets all his Children in his own likeness who are all Spiritual and Heavenly Children they have all of them the Image of their Father stamped upon them which is Grace and Holiness the more holy the more like unto God they are who is Essentially holy and theefore the food which this spiritual man liveth upon must be Spiritual Heavenly food he lives upon God in Christ and feeds upon God in Christ by faith for all our springs are in him Now for any persons to imagin that a spiritual being can live and subsist upon carnal material food is but a vain imagination 〈…〉 less flesh and his blood without the least tincture of sin yet notwithstanding all that it is food beneath the new Creature to live upon for by Christ's taking flesh upon him he made himself lower than the Angels as he was man Heb. 2.7 Thou madest him a little lower than the Angels thou crownedst him with Glory and Honour and didst set him over the works of thy hands But as Christ was God so he is higher than the Heavens yea the Heavens are unclean in his sight and all the food which the new creature doth live upon is all treasured up in Christ he is the great Lord Treasurer of Heaven and Earth h●● is the Dispencer of all Grace for it hath pleased the Father that in him all fullness shall dwell And in him are hid all the treasures of Wisdom and Grace there it is placed by God the Father there it is laid up for all his children for them to come and fetch by faith and prayer all whatsoever they stand in need of and we all receive from Christ's fulness and grace for grace Psal 84.11 For the Lord God is a Sun and a Shield the Lord wi●● give Grace and Glory no good thing will he withhold from them that live uprightly There it is Treasurer up in Christ who is the only Infallible head of th● true Ancient Catholick Apostolical Church to distribute and give forth unto all his members as ●● seeth to be needful and necessary for them both Spiritual and Temporal Blessings and Mercies Alas how can a Spiritual being subsist upon carnal substantial food it is utterly incoherent and inconsistent as our Saviour Christ said in another case 〈◊〉 cure Thomas a Didimus's unbelief viz. A spirit has 〈◊〉 flesh and bones as ye see me have Now if your Transubstantiated Christ could convince us after th● manner as our Saviour convinced Thomas a Didim●● your Doctrine might obtain some credit amo●● those sort of people that are not debarred of the 〈◊〉 of their sense and reason as yours are But Believe have not a carnal body to be fed in this sense 〈◊〉 that is fed with the meat that perisheth but th● fed with that meat which endureth to everlast life A Cow may as well and better live upon● bare Sea-Rocks and feed upon Oysters or Cockles a Fish live out of the water upon the dry land 〈◊〉 feed upon hay or straw as for the new Creature Spiritual man to live upon material substantial 〈◊〉 and blood And our Saviour Christ himself has us consequentially in effect that his flesh would fit us nothing if he should give it unto us to ea●● Again in the next place this eating of Ch●●● flesh and drinking his blood is no more to b●●● derstood literally and properly than the Doctrine Regeneration was which our Saviour Christ 〈◊〉 red unto old Nicodemus and if you observe it gently you will find that our Saviour Christ 〈◊〉 pounded it much after the same manner as 〈◊〉 done this of eating his flesh 〈…〉 blood and gives the like check to the understanding of the one carnally and literally as he does to the other And pray take notice that our Saviour Christ is the only infallible Judg and Interpreter of the holy Scriptures
as well as he is the Infallible Head of the Church for who can give a better interpretation or Exposition of the Law than the Law-maker can therefore no person can understand or give a right Interpretation of the Holy Scriptures but them to whom Christ gives this gift and that is to many thousands to some more and some less some have a higher measure than others it is given to every believer which is a spiritual man to know the mystery of Gods will in the Salvation of poor sinners for saith Christ It is given to you to know the mystery of the Kingdom but unto them it is not God hides these things from the wise and prudent and revealeth them unto babes saith Christ 1 Cor. 2.14 15. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God for they are foolishness unto him neither can he know them because they are spiritually discerned But he that is spiritual judgeth all things Here you see who is the chief Judg of the Scriptures and who are Missionaries or whom he has Commissionated so ●o do not any one single person above the rest But ●o return to what we are upon Joh. 3.3 4. Jesus ●nswered and said unto him Verily verily I say unto ●●ee Except a man be born again he cannot see the ●●ingdom of God. Nicodemus saith unto him How can 〈◊〉 man be born again when he is old can he enter the second time into his mothers womb and be born This is ●●st as the unbelieving Jews that said How can this ●●an give us his flesh to eat And old Nicodemus notwithstanding he was a great Rabbi and Ruler in Israel yet he had like to have gone away under as ●●eat a mistake about the Doctrine of Regeneration 〈◊〉 you Romanist have done of this mystical saying of ●●r Saviour Christ's in that he hath said Take Eat ●●is is my Body and of giving his flesh to eat and ●●s blood to drink Now pray observe how nearly alike our Saviour Christ interprets and expounds this Doctrine of Re●●neration unto Nicodemus in the 5th and 6th verses ●●sus answered Verily verily I say unto thee Except man be born of water and of the spirit he cannot en●● into the Kingdom of God that which is born of the 〈◊〉 is flesh and that which is born of the spirit is spirit ●●w see the 6. Joh. 63. and compare them toge●●r It is the spirit that quickeneth the flesh profiteth ●●hing the words that I speak unto you they are spirit 〈◊〉 they are life Here you see all the carnal fleshly ●●●eption or Transubstantiated fancy utterly over●●wn and knockt in the head in these words of ●●aviour Christ as well as that also of Nicodemus's ●●al conception of the Doctrine of Regeneration 〈…〉 understood mystically and Spiri●●● 〈…〉 eaten by faith in every Ordinance of God in Religious worship and especially in the Ordinance of the Lords-Supper for faith is the mouth of the new creature the great grace of faith is the souls Nurse but it feeds upon Christ and lives upon Christ which is this spiritual Bread which came down from Heaven that a man may eat thereof and not die And so likewise our Saviour gives the like interpretation of the graces of the Spirit in the Believer much after the same manner which are compared to rivers of living water in Joh. 7.37 38 39. In the last day that great day of the Feast Jesus stood and cried saying if any man thirst let him come unto me and drink And pray mind what the drink is that Christ giveth him He that believeth on me as the Scripture hath said out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water But pray mind what Exposition our Blessed Redeemer gives in the following verses But this spake he of the Spirit which they that believe on him should receive You see this drinking here is by faith in Christ and the liquor which they drink is spiritual liquor it is the water of life Now if these Scriptures are to be understood literally and properly then you must understand the Contexts and the Coherence of them literally and properly also for Christ does not as I remember speak a whole sentence wherein one part wholly contains spiritual matter and the other part wholly contains a literal and proper meaning in it tho one whole sentence may have both a mystical and literal meaning in it Now pray mind in Joh. 6.35 50. And Jesus said unto them I am the bread of life he that cometh to me shall never hunger and he that believeth in me shall never thirst Now is not here the very same reason to believe that we shall never be corporally a hungry nor a thirst again as there is for us to believe that that is material bread or flesh that Christ spake of in the same verse Again this is the bread which cometh down from Heaven that a man may eat thereof and not die Now is not here as much reason to believe and understand this literally and properly as there is for any of the other to be understood so and if the rest be to be understood so then they that eat Christ's flesh and drink his blood shall never die a natural death Again if this Doctrine in Joh. 6. be to be understood literally and properly then must the Doctrine of Regeneration be understood so in Joh. 3. And if so then none should ever see the Kingdom of God nor enter into the Kingdom of Heaven and be saved but them and them only that crept into their mothers womb and were born again literally and properly as old Nicodemus ignorantly imagined There is every whit as much reason to believe this as there is to believe your Doctrine of Transubstantiation Pray mind the Interrogation of Nicodemus and that of the Jews how like they are the one to the other 〈…〉 is old c. Secondly the Jews they said How can this man give us his flesh to eat Now if these Scriptures in Joh. 3. and in Joh. 6. are to be taken and the sense of them expounded literally in the plain letter of the word then must this of Joh. 7.38 be understood so in like manner where it is said that rivers of living water shall flow out of the Believers belly and we might as rationally expect that Scullers should ply the Ferry at every believers belly in these rivers of living water and also that every believer has crept into his mothers womb and been born again as to believe that the Bread and Wine in the Sacrament of the Lords-Supper after Consecration is Transubstantiated into the Body Soul and Divinity of our Saviour Christ which is into his very person But what will become of all those poor souls whose mothers are dead before they are or were converted that have never a mothers womb to creep into for I will assure you that the one is as true as the other let who will deny or contradict it And thus you do
be seen by an eye of sense through Faith he kept the Passover and sprinkling of Blood lest he that destroyed the first born should touch them by Faith they passed through the Red Sea as by dry 〈…〉 Christ under the Mosaical Law is wholly ascribed unto Faith and that it was Spiritual meat and drink and the very same meat and drink that Believers do live upon spiritually now under the dispensation of the Gospel hence you may observe that Christ was as much materially and corporeally eaten and drank before ever he had assumed humane nature or had a real material body to eat and blood to drink as ever he has been at any time since that he hath taken humane nature upon him for if Christ be really Transubstantiated into his very person consisting of Body Soul and Divinity and so eaten now under the Gospel since he had a Body why then it will necessarily and consequentially follow that Christ was corporeally and substantially eaten in Body Soul and Divinity before ever he had a Body to be eaten for you see it clearly proved from the Apostle's words that the believing Israelites did eat the same spiritual meat and did all drink the same spiritual drink then as true Believers do now under the Gospel for the Text saith plainly that they did all eat of the same spiritual meat and did all drink of the same spiritual drink for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them and that Rock was Christ The Children of Israel might as well have Transubstantiated a Rock into the real Body and Blood of Christ and so eaten and dranken that instead of Christ or for Christ which is to eat Stones instead of the Bread of Life as for you to imagine or pretend to eat and drink Christ corporeally and personally in the Sacrament of the Eucharist For I will assure ye that there is as good Reason and as clear a Warrant and Authority either from Scripture or Reason to believe the one as there is to believe the other for our Saviour Christ was spiritual meat and spiritual drink under the Mosaical Law and he is the same and no other now under the Gospel Their feeding upon Christ and injoying communion and fellowship with Christ under the Law was Spiritual and by Faith why even so it is the same and no more nor no less now nor in all foregoing Ages under the Gospel Christ is to be received and eaten by Faith and in spiritual love also now as he was then of which I shall give you a farther proof by and by Again thirdly Pray Sir observe strictly what the same Apostle saith in 1 Cor. 10.20 21. But I say the things which the Gentiles sacrifice they sacrifice to Devils and not to God. I would not that ye should have fellowship with Devils Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of Devils ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's Table and of the Table of Devils The Apostle spoke this cautionarily by way of reproof to some persons perhaps in that day that might be somewhat guilty thereof because he 〈…〉 told them of Thessalonica that the mystery of iniquity did begin to work in that day 2 Thess 2. 〈◊〉 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work T●● Man of Sin Antichrist was a beginning to cre●● into the Church the Temple of God even the●● as you may see in Verse 3 4. And also the Apostle by a Prophetick Spirit did speak concerning some that would pretend to be Christians that would thus horribly profane the Sacrament of the Lord Supper which is there called the Cup of the Lord and the Table of the Lord and that by making 〈◊〉 Sacrifice of that holy Ordinance which was instituted principally to remember the great Sacrifi●● that was offered up for Sin namely the Lord Jes●● Christ who was offered up once for all a living sacrifice holy and acceptable unto God. And it is the e●press command of Christ viz. Do this in remembrance of me Now these Gentiles here which the Apostle do●● arraign as guilty that do thus profane the Cup 〈◊〉 the Lord and the Table of the Lord cou●● not be meant of the Heathen Idolatrous Gentil●● which never professed nor owned the name 〈◊〉 Christ and therefore they never made use of th● Ordinance but this was Prophesied of Idolatro●● Gentiles pretended Christians that do own t●● Ordinance tho not in A Right manner for th●● make a Sacrifice of it And they do also own 〈◊〉 name of Christ in words tho in works of me●● and by works of supererogation they deny hi●● Secondly Neither could this be spoken of t●● Jews which do offer Sacrifices because the Apo●●● saith they were Gentiles that should come into 〈◊〉 Church or Temple of God and offer up this ki●●● of Sacrifice upon the Table of the Lord whi●● they make an Altar of which Error of sacrifici●● or Mystery of Iniquity might be part of t●● which began to work in the Apostles days wh●● were a forerunner of Antichrist the Man of S●●● for the Passover and all the Sacrifices under 〈◊〉 Mosaical Law were all but Types and Shadows 〈◊〉 Christ's coming in the Flesh and dying in the F●● for sinners they were all but signs and figure● remember Christ by and Christ was spiritually 〈◊〉 joyed under them and eaten and dranken in t●● by Faith as the Apostle asserts which has been 〈◊〉 ready proved 1 Cor. 10.1 2 3 4. Why 〈◊〉 so the Sacrament of the Lord's Supper was i●●●tuted by our Saviour Christ the Night in whic● 〈◊〉 was betrayed to keep up a holy thankful remembrance of Christ's being come in the flesh and ●●ing in the flesh in the room of poor fallen 〈◊〉 that lay polluted in his Blood in sin and mi●●● out in the open field and none to pity nor 〈◊〉 him neither was he capable to help himself 〈◊〉 that which was worst of all he did not nor 〈◊〉 not desire any help Ezek. 16.3 4 5 6. Th● 〈◊〉 ●eas an Amorite and thy mother an Hittite And as for ●hy nativity in the day thou wast born thy navel was not ●ut neither wast thou washed in water to supple thee ●hou wast not salted at all nor swadled at all This is Man in a natural lapsed state and condition None ●e pitted thee to do any of these unto thee to have compassion upon thee but thou wast cast into the open field 〈◊〉 the loathing of thy person in the day that thou wast ●●rn And when I passed by thee and saw thee polluted 〈◊〉 thine own blood I said unto thee when thou wast in thy ●●ood Live yea I said unto thee when thou wast in ●●●y blood Live. This was the case and condition of ●ankind after the fall and is of every particular individual person before the work of Regeneration ●●sseth upon his Soul by the mighty powerful ●●eration of the Holy Ghost out of which state ●●d condition there was no Redemption but by