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A96442 An ansvver to Mr. Francis Cornvvells positions & inferences, concerning dipping, anabaptisme, antipædobaptisme, tythes, and consecrated churches. Wherein the English Ministry is vindicated from the Anti-Christianisme, so deeply by him charged upon them. Published in speciall reference to the good of Mr Cornwells misled congregation. / By Robert Whittle, minister of the word of God at East-Malling in Kent. Whereunto are annexed, the fore-mentioned positions of Mr Francis Cornvvell, entituled, the Nevv Testament ratified with the blood of the Lord Jesus, is the Magna Charta of Beleevers in Jesus the Christ dipped; by which they are justified to be no hereticks. Whittle, Robert, 1597 or 8-1679.; Cornwell, Francis. New testament ratified with the blood of the Lord Jesus. 1647 (1647) Wing W2046; Thomason E516_1; ESTC R206141 27,828 25

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Heb. 9. 10. of divers Washings or different Baptismes yet all be there called Baptismes 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 If there be divers and different sorts of Baptismes why doe you restraine the word to one sort and that of Dipping The Apostle tells us speaking of Baptisme Ephes 5. 26. that Christ cleanseth his Church with the washing of Water by the Word so that Baptisme is here called by the generall name of washing which is done other wayes as well as by Dipping by any application of water to the thing or the thing to water The Author of Eclesiasticus who was questionlesse well acquainted with the Ceremonies of the Hebrewes and the language of the Greeks calleth the sprinkling of the waer of Purification upon him that touched the dead 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Baptismes from the dead Ecclus. 34. 25. as Casaubon well observes Yet we know that those Baptismes were by Gods speciall appointment but sprinklings Num. 19. 18. 20. The like manner of Purification had the Heathen both Greeks and Latins So that the word doth not not signifie Dipping onely but any Washing by powring on or sprinklng of water Neither can it be proved by Scripture that ever the Sacrament of Baptisme was administred by Dipping no one word seemeth to make for it although some urge Johns Baptizing of Jesus or Philips Baptizing of the Eunuch as for Johns Baptizing the Phrase Baptizing in Jordan implyes Dipping no more then Baptizing in a Font or Bason implyes Dipping in a Font or Bason and whereas it is said Jesus went up out of the Water the Word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which is translated out of signifies properly from so that it is went up from the water which he might doe without having been in the Water And as for the Eunuch and Philip they went downe both into the water and they came up out of the water so they might doe for any kinde of washing as to have water powred upon him as well as to be Dipped and it is not probable that being in his journey hee was provided of Cloathes fit to bee dipped in and if hee was to be stripped in the presence of others that may seem an undecent manner of approaching to Gods Ordinances unlesse we will turne Adamites For that instance Acts 2. 41. of three thousand we read not of their going to any River or place of Waters to be Dipped in and it would have been a ha●d matter to have Dipped three thousand in one day according to your manner neither is it probable that the Jaylor who at midnight was Bahtized went forth of his house or had in his house any conveniency for Dipping so that for ought that can be collected from Scripture Baptisme may be administred by any washing of Water Eph. 5. 26. either Dipping or Sprinkling or powring on of water As also the thing signified in Baptisme is as well expressed by other application of water as by Dipping as that the party Baptized is made partaker of the benefit of Christs Bloud-shed The Appostle having shewed Heb. 9. 13 14. That the bloud of Christ which was fore-signified by those Legall Sprinklings purgeth the conscience exhorteth Cap. 10. 22. to draw neare having our hearts sprinkled from an evill conscience and our bodies washed with pure water what sprinkling can this be but of the bloud of Christ and what washing of water can better than sprinkling expresse this sprinkling of Christs bloud which we are Elected unto 1 Pet. 1. 2. Elect unto obedience and sprinkling of the bloud of Jesus Christ So also Christians Heb. 12. 24. are come to Jesus the Mediatour of the New Testament and to the bloud of sprinkling that speaketh better things than that of Abell which cannot be understood but of the bloud of Jesus and because it is called the bloud of sprinkling when he is called the Mediatour of the new Covenant the Sacrament of our admission into this Covenant cannot better signifie and seale unto us that bloud of the Covenant than by sprinkling which also was fore-shewed by those Legall Sprinklings When the people entred into Covenant with God and promised obedience to what was written in the Booke of the Covenant Moses sprinkled the Bloud of the Covenant upon the people Exod. 24. 8. Also when Isaiah prophesied of the conversion of many Nations Isa 52. 15. he setteth it forth under that phrase of Sprinkling He shall sprinkle many Nations and how can they be said to be sprinkled upon their conversion but by the Seale of their admission even Baptisme administred unto them upon their conversion in many Nations by Sprinkling Not that I account Sprinkling necessary or Dipping unlawfull in Baptisme if this were the only difference we should quickly be reconciled any decent manner of applying and washing with water is indifferent to signifie the application of the benefit of Christs bloud to the party baptized And if it could be proved that Baptisme was administred by Dipping in the Apostles time yet it would not follow that the Church were therefore necessarily tyed to that particular in the administration being no Precept for it more than for any other kind of washing bare Example without Precept bindeth not we have Christs example for administring the Communion with unleavened bread after Supper and in a upper Chamber yet none will say we are bound to follow his example in these particulars because there is no Precept for them Thus supposing that Mr Cornewell hath laid a good foundation in his positions yet it appeares by his Hay and Stubble that he hath built upon it that he hath forgotten the Apostles Counsell 1 Cor. 3. 10. Let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon Now he begins to set up something against me and my Brethren to fight against He hopes it will appeare that Beleevers in Jesus the Christ Dipped are no Hereticks as Mr Whittle and his Brethren do affirme in publike they are Certainly his extreame weakenesse cannot but appeare in placing me so weake and unworthy in the front of my so much worthier Brethren but where and when did ever any of us affirme in publike this indefinite proposition thus indefinitely which may beare the force of an Universall which none of us will affirme that all Beleevers are Heretickes but if you will lay it as a particular that some which professe themselves Beleevers in Jesus Christ are Heretickes that will appeare too true there are more Articles of the Christian faith than one or two to be beleeved to keepe us from Heresie I approve of M. Cornwels profession of his faith in Christ as farre as he goeth without making mis-application of it in too much restraining the subject of Baptisme one way of which hereafter and too much enlarging it another way that voice of the Gospell Acts 2. 38. Be baptized in the name of Jesus belongeth as a Precept only to those which have not as yet been baptized but if Mr Corne. shall extend it to those that have been
second comming to restore all things Rev. 22. 19. Luke 22. 20 This Cup is the new Testament in my bloud shed for you viz. Beleevers in Jesus the Christ dipped For the new Testament being in ●●rce is not to be questioned amongste us it is the undoubted Doctrine of the Church of England And the Apostle tells us what that Testament is Hebr. 8. 10 11 12. I will put my Lawes in their mind and write them in their hearts and I will be to them a God and they shall be to me a people c. For Testament Covenant here are both one 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or if you speak of the writings of the Evangelists and Apostles which by a Metonymie are commonly knowne by the name of the new Testament we reverence and receive them all we will be farre from adding to them or detracting from them but if you account our receiving the Morall Law and the Prophets any adding to this new Testament there we leave you to the Anabaptists your Brethren who as Polanus tells us are divided into two Sects the modester reject the writings of the old Testament the other reject the whole Scripture both old and new Testament and pretend immediate Revelation you seeme to incline to the former but we doe not make void the Law through faith but we establish the Law Rom. 3. 31. And are built upon the foundation of the Apostles and Prophets Jesus Christ himselfe being the chiefe corner-stone Eph. 2. 20. But suppose both your Positions as farre as you speak plaine granted onely with a reservation of something to be said concerning your affected Word Dipped whether you referre it to Christ or Beleevers where you impose a necessity of it to salvation what will follow hereupon That you are no Hereticks Nay in the very first consequence you draw from thence you shew your selfe Hereticall For say you First then it will necessarily follow that no man nor woman according to the Scriptures of the new Testament can be saved except they beleeve in Jesus the Christ and be dipped Mark 16. 6. What a necessity fo Baptisme to salvation So that none can be saved without Baptisme the Text by you alledged doth not prove it what then is this your assertion upon it but an addition to it and so a bringing your selfe under your threatned Anathema the Text threatens indeed Damnation to unbeleevers but not to the unbaptized Neither will your following exception helpe you Corcerning the salvation of the elect whom he will save in mysticall Babylon even in the darkest times of Poperie and Superstition wee meddle not say you But how can you meddle with the Salvation of any if not of the Elect seeing salvation belongeth onely to the elect againe if you except onely the elect whom he will save in mysticall Babylon even in the darkest times of Poperie and superstition what then shall become of the Elect under the light of the Gospel shall not the foundation of God stand sure for these without mans putting to his helping hand to dip them Shall their salvation depend upon that which is in the power of man to give or deny I should thinke it blasphemy in my se●● so to limit the power or restraine the grace of God Againe suppose you should convert one to be and make profession for matter of faith altogether as your selfe and that he should desire to be Dipped if hee should dye as it is possible he might before you could dip him were it unpossible for him to be saved It is an ucomfortable Doctrine to your poore Congregation not any way warrantable by the Word of God you must goe to the Councell of Trent for your Warrant for this your necessity and to Bellarmine for arguments to uphold it and then in pitty to some poore soules set up a Limbu●● or else it will downe The Apostle tells us that we are justified by Faith Rom ● 28. and saved through faith Ephsians 2. 8. Without annexing dipping why then doe you make Dipping necessary to Salva●ion for that without which a thing cannot be done is absolutely necessarie to the doing of the thing and of this kinde you make dipping to Salvation As for your second consequence if you understand it of men and women disting●ished from children we account Faith and Baptisme necessarie for their admission and continuance in the communion of Saints but because you afterward require a ma●ifestation of the beliefe of their hearts by the confession of their lips and would for want of this exclude children from Baptisme and the Communion of Saints we shall hereafter examme that more fully Here you will have Baptized more properly Dipped and so impose upon us a necessity of Dipping which is the maine thing wherewith you trouble ignorant people That their Baptisme was no Baptisme because they were not dipped The Question then is whether Dipping bee necessry in Baptisme which you and your followers much insist upon First the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to Baptize is of a larger signification than that it can be expressed by any one word in any language knowne either to you or me and therefore that word it selfe borrowed from the Greeks is used in most languages It signifies as the Masters of the Greek tongue declare as to Dippe and to dye so to wash and to cleanse by any appliction of water to the thing or the thing to water as sprinkiling or powring on of Water and of a larger extent even in Scripture Phrase than all these and therefore not to be restrained to your one word dipping If so often as th● Word Baptizing is used in Scripture you should render it by dipping you would make it ridiculous to your owne Congregation unlesse you had prepared them to swallow any thing upon your bare word Doe you think that the washing of Tables was by dipping co●ld every house have a place fit to dip a Table in yet it is called 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Baptisme Mark 7. 4. Let any indifferent reader judge whether it were proper or fit to render that Matth. 3. 11. He shall dippe you with the Holy Ghost and with fire which signified the Holy Ghosts comming upon them Acts 1. 5. 8. being a fulfilling of that Prophefie Joel 2. 28. I will powre out my Spirit upon c. Acts 2. 3 4. Acts 2. 16 17. So that here you see by Bapti●ing is not meant dipping but powring upon and so in Ba●tisme we powre water upon the childe Or that place they were all Baptized to Moses in the Cloud and in the Sea ● 〈◊〉 10. 2. Will you render it dipped When the Scripture tells us that Israel went on drie ground through the middest of the Sea Exod. 14. Or can it be imagined that they were dipped in the Cloud when the Cloud was made a comfortable covering unto them and it cannoto be conceived how they were baptized in it but by the sprinkling drops that fell from it The Apostle tells us