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2._o cap._n 19_o paulo_n post_n quia_fw-la nulla_fw-la harum_fw-la synodi_fw-la episcopalis_fw-la &c_n &c_n est_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la catholica_fw-la symbolica_fw-la nec_fw-la vendicat_fw-la sibi_fw-la sidem_fw-la dari_fw-la sub_fw-la paenâ_fw-la perfidiae_fw-la sed_fw-la etc._n etc._n nec_fw-la movere_fw-la quenquam_fw-la debet_fw-la que_v talem_fw-la concordem_fw-la professionem_fw-la patrum_fw-la praeposui_fw-la decreto_fw-la generalis_fw-la concilu_n etiamsi_fw-la è_fw-la toto_fw-la orbe_fw-la existentes_fw-la convenirent_fw-la episcopi_fw-la et_fw-fr cap._n 27._o nec_fw-la tamen_fw-la alicui_fw-la jam_fw-la dictae_fw-la ecclesiis_fw-la apostolicis_fw-la maxlmè_fw-la verò_fw-la romanae_fw-la &_o authoritati_fw-la concilii_fw-la generalis_fw-la ita_fw-la obediendum_fw-la censeo_fw-la &_o tam_fw-la pronâ_fw-la fide_fw-la sicut_fw-la primae_fw-la fidei_fw-la scripturae_fw-la vel_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la christi_fw-la symbolicae_fw-la sed_fw-la sicut_fw-la institutionibus_fw-la seniorum_fw-la &_o monitioni_fw-la paternae_fw-la teach_v that_o the_o church_n which_o be_v the_o infallible_a rule_n of_o faith_n be_v neither_o pope_n nor_o council_n which_o have_v sometime_o err_v but_o the_o series_n and_o collection_n of_o all_o doctor_n successive_o from_o the_o apostle_n to_o our_o time_n that_o neither_o a_o episcopal_a synod_n nor_o the_o common_a decree_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n nor_o yet_o a_o general_n council_n of_o all_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o world_n be_v that_o catholic_n symbolical_a church_n that_o can_v challenge_v assent_n upon_o pain_n of_o insidelity_n but_o the_o universal_a succession_n of_o the_o holy_a father_n throughout_o all_o age_n that_o a_o unanimous_a consent_n of_o the_o father_n be_v to_o be_v prefer_v before_o the_o decree_n of_o a_o general_n council_n although_o all_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o world_n be_v therein_o that_o obedience_n be_v not_o so_o ready_o and_o entire_o to_o be_v give_v to_o the_o dictate_v of_o any_o 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v._n testamenti_fw-la quam_fw-la papa_n panorm_a in_o cap._n significâsti_fw-la de_fw-fr electione_n write_v that_o in_o thing_n indeed_o concern_v faith_n a_o council_n be_v above_o the_o pope_n yet_o if_o the_o pope_n be_v move_v with_o better_a reason_n and_o authority_n than_o the_o council_n we_o be_v to_o stand_v to_o his_o determination_n for_o even_o a_o council_n may_v err_v and_o have_v err_v that_o in_o matter_n of_o faith_n the_o judgement_n even_o of_o one_o private_a man_n be_v to_o be_v prefer_v before_o the_o sentence_n of_o the_o pope_n if_o he_o be_v move_v with_o better_a argument_n draw_v from_o the_o old_a and_o new_a testament_n than_o the_o pope_n and_o much_o more_o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n antony_z 6._o antony_z ant._n summ._n theol._n part_n 3._o tit._n 23._o cap._n 2._o 2._o 6._o archbishop_z of_o florence_n have_v transcribe_v this_o whole_a passage_n of_o panormitan_n into_o his_o sum_n of_o divinity_n without_o make_v the_o least_o mention_n of_o he_o and_o deliver_v it_o as_o his_o own_o opinion_n cardinal_n cusanus_fw-la 4._o cusanus_fw-la notandum_fw-la est_fw-la experimento_fw-la rerum_fw-la concilium_fw-la universale_fw-la plenartum_fw-la posse_fw-la deficere_fw-la quomodo_fw-la etiam_fw-la varia_fw-la concilia_fw-la talia_fw-la fuerunt_fw-la quae_fw-la judicando_fw-la errârunt_fw-la cusan_a concord_n cath._n lib._n 2._o cap._n 3._o &_o 4._o allow_v indeed_o ecumenical_a council_n to_o be_v infallible_a but_o to_o this_o end_n require_v so_o many_o condition_n that_o it_o be_v very_o difficult_a they_o shall_v all_o be_v have_v and_o impossible_a to_o be_v know_v when_o have_v the_o four_o condition_n be_v that_o the_o council_n regulate_v itself_o by_o the_o rule_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n lay_v down_o in_o scripture_n and_o the_o definition_n of_o precedent_a council_n otherwise_o that_o howsoever_o free_a and_o universal_a they_o may_v be_v appeal_v from_o and_o protest_v against_o and_o at_o last_o conclude_v that_o it_o be_v to_o be_v see_v by_o experience_n that_o a_o full_a general_n council_n can_v err_v as_o diverse_a such_o council_n have_v be_v which_o have_v err_v in_o define_v thus_o he_o of_o council_n who_o have_v much_o more_o about_o the_o errability_n of_o the_o pope_n wherefore_o bellarmine_n reckon_v he_o among_o the_o parisian_n nicholas_n de_fw-fr clemangis_n conciliis_fw-la clemangis_n clem._n in_o disp_n de_fw-fr conciliis_fw-la express_o dispute_v against_o the_o infallibility_n of_o council_n but_o because_o he_o preadmonish_v he_o assirm_v nothing_o but_o only_o to_o dispute_v for_o find_v out_o the_o truth_n i_o shall_v not_o urge_v his_o testimony_n cardinal_n dominicus_n jacobatius_n 239._o jacobatius_n quia_fw-la concilium_fw-la potest_fw-la errare_fw-la ut_fw-la patet_fw-la in_o conctlio_fw-la ariminenâ—i_fw-la ephesino_n 2._o africanâ_fw-la synodo_fw-la tempore_fw-la cypriani_fw-la &_o in_o aliis_fw-la multis_fw-la nec_fw-la obstat_fw-la si_fw-la dicatur_fw-la quòd_fw-la ecclesià _fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la errare_fw-la quia_fw-la intelligitur_fw-la de_fw-la ecclesiâ_fw-la universali_fw-la sed_fw-la concilium_fw-la repraesentatiuè_fw-la dicitur_fw-la ecclesiâ_fw-la in_o concilio_n enim_fw-la verè_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la universalis_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la jacob._n de_fw-fr council_n lib._n 6._o pag._n 239._o assert_v that_o when_o pope_n and_o council_n disagree_v in_o define_v that_o judgement_n be_v to_o be_v prefer_v which_o be_v consonant_n to_o the_o definition_n of_o precedent_a council_n if_o none_o of_o which_o have_v pass_v sentence_n in_o this_o matter_n then_o the_o council_n definition_n shall_v not_o be_v receive_v if_o the_o pope_n be_v found_v upon_o better_a reason_n and_o authority_n for_o that_o a_o council_n can_v err_v as_o appear_v by_o that_o of_o ariminum_n the_o second_o of_o ephesus_n that_o of_o africa_n under_o cyprian_a and_o many_o other_o that_o the_o infallibility_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n prove_v not_o the_o same_o to_o be_v in_o a_o council_n since_o the_o universal_a church_n be_v not_o true_o in_o a_o council_n that_o in_o the_o case_n of_o contrary_a definition_n by_o the_o pope_n and_o a_o council_n it_o be_v not_o yet_o define_v what_o be_v to_o be_v do_v or_o observe_v that_o his_o opinion_n however_o be_v that_o he_o which_o shall_v hold_v to_o and_o observe_v either_o part_n shall_v not_o therefore_o incur_v the_o danger_n of_o damnation_n although_o he_o die_v in_o the_o observation_n of_o it_o all_o these_o manifest_o teach_v that_o both_o a_o pope_n and_o council_n to_o who_o alone_o active_a infallibility_n be_v attribute_v may_v err_v
nor_o be_v it_o enough_o to_o say_v that_o herein_o they_o deliver_v their_o judgement_n of_o the_o pope_n and_o council_n disagree_v one_o from_o another_o and_o not_o conjunct_o define_v this_o indeed_o may_v seem_v to_o be_v say_v with_o some_o colour_n of_o truth_n in_o jacobatius_n but_o as_o for_o occam_n and_o alliacensis_fw-la it_o do_v by_o no_o mean_n fit_v they_o nor_o yet_o do_v it_o in_o the_o least_o enervate_a the_o testimony_n of_o the_o rest_n since_o whensoever_o they_o deny_v infallibility_n to_o pope_n or_o council_n they_o do_v not_o thereto_o oppose_v the_o consent_n of_o both_o but_o either_o the_o symbolical_a and_o successive_a church_n as_o waldensis_n or_o the_o universal_a as_o all_o the_o rest_n beside_o they_o deny_v infallibility_n to_o belong_v to_o the_o representative_a church_n and_o to_o be_v the_o property_n of_o the_o universal_a whereas_o every_o one_o know_v and_o acknowledge_v that_o only_a the_o representative_a church_n be_v in_o a_o council_n 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determine_v it_o to_o be_v the_o congregation_n of_o the_o faithful_a which_o can_v fail_v christ_n have_v pray_v for_o it_o and_o nicolas_n lyra_n 16.18_o lyra_n a_o verâ_fw-la se_fw-la fide_fw-la subvertendo_fw-la exit_fw-la quo_fw-la patet_fw-la quòd_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la non_fw-la consistit_fw-la in_o hominibus_fw-la ratione_fw-la potestatis_fw-la vel_fw-la dignitatis_fw-la ecclesiasticae_fw-la vel_fw-la saecularis_fw-la quia_fw-la multi_fw-la principes_fw-la &_o summi_fw-la pontifices_fw-la etc._n etc._n inventi_fw-la sunt_fw-la apostatâsse_fw-la a_o fide_fw-la propter_fw-la quod_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la consistit_fw-la in_o illis_fw-la personis_fw-la in_fw-la quibus_fw-la est_fw-la notitia_fw-la vera_fw-la &_o confessio_fw-la fidei_fw-la &_o veritatis_fw-la lyra_n in_o matth._n 16.18_o to_o those_o word_n the_o gate_n of_o hell_n shall_v not_o prevail_v against_o it_o affix_v this_o gloss_n that_o be_v to_o subvert_v it_o from_o the_o true_a faith_n to_o which_o he_o subjoin_v 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