proposed to the Councell and when these were afterwards to be read in full Councell the Fathers gaue their suffrage by the word Placet without scruple or difficultie therein receiving the said Decree as a Law already ratified by the Popes Legats Before the fourth Session was held where in was established the Decree touching Traditions some selected Doctors were assembled to frame this Dectee which was for a long space debated Some interposing that it was necessary a Decree should be made wherein it should be declared that all the Catholike doctrine is founded upon Tradition in regard that the Scripture it selfe is not to bee beleeved but by the leaue and meanes of Tradition that ministreth authoritie unto it Vincent Lunel a Cordelier was of opinion to make a Decree of the authoritie of the Church before Traditions should bee mentioned because these are grounded upon the authoritie of the Church and the Church is that which afforâeth all authoritie to the Scriptures To which opinion the Legats would not condiscend fearing that heereby the memory of the Councels of Constance and Basill should be revived which haue adjudged and definitiuely determined that the soveraigne authoritie of the Church abideth in the Councell and not in the Pope and that the Pope is subject to the Councell and that to enter into dispute hereon were to signifie that it is not yet knowne who should be Iudge But Anthony Mariner the Carmelite a sage and learned man was of opinion that nothing at all should be spoken of Traditions alleaging that without all doubt God under the old Testament had commanded Moyses to write his Booke of the Law charging the Kings to reade it carefully and to put a copy of it into the Arke of the Covenant but saith that under the new Testament the Scripture is not necessary in respect that Iesus Christ hath written his doctrine in mens hearts without need either of Tables Arke or Booke Hee further saith that if there were no Scripture at all yet the Church should loose nothing of her perfection It is true that God hath not forbidden his Apostles to write but so also is it certaine that they haue not written by his commaundement and it is an abuse to say that God hath commaunded them to write one part of the doctrine and forbidden them to write the other Againe he presseth that if any man he of a contrary opinion he should haue too maine difficulties to vnfold the one to declare the things forbidden to be written the other to tell us who hath made those men that came after the Apostles so adventurous and bold to commit to writing that which God had forbidden his Apostles to write Lastly he sayth that if any man avowed it to bee chance and without expresse commandement from God that some things haue been written and others not hee should accuse the providence of God in taking no care of so important a matter and should call into doubt the assistance of the holy Spirit that hath instructed the Apostles to write For these reasons was he of opinion to make no comparison of Traditions with the Scripture since by this meane also they might passe over the Scripture But Cardinall Poole an English man and third Legat did utterly renounce this opinion Yet for alâ that there was a decree framed wherein without mentioning the authoritie of the Church or that Traditions are aboue the Scripture it is averred that simply the Scripture and Traditions ought to be received with equall pietie and reverence Which is a perpetuall rule that the Councell hath observed to devise emptie Decrees not expressing the moity of the church of Romes opinion and that in ambiguous words to the end that upon all occasions they may make Interpretations fit for their owne turnes CHAP. V. That our Adversaries say there are doctrines and articles of Christian Faith yea in the very essentiall things which the Apostles haue neither taught by mouth nor writing OVr Adversaries are not contented to accuse the Scripture alone of imperfection but they finde also a deficiency in the Aposties preacaing and say that they haue not taught all by word of mouth So as by their account the holy Scripture and Apostolique Traditions coupled together make no an entire body of the Christian doctrine They also freely conââsse that the Popes haue added from age to age divers Traditions according as they haue thought them necessary and that not only ââ things of lesse importance but also in matters essentiall to the Christian faith Bellarmine in his 4. Booke of the § Est aut eÌ Prior partitio Traditionum est in diviâas Apostoâââas Ecclesiastiâas Vnwritten word of God chap. 2. calleth some Traditions Divine which Iesus Christ hath taught by mouth haue not been set downe in writing Others he calleth Apostolique which the Apostles haue taught by word of mouth and never wrote them And the last hee calleth Ecclesiasticall which hee Ecclesiastica Traditiones proprie dicuntur consuetudines quaedâ antiqua veâ a Praesulibus vel á ãâã ãâã paularim tacito consensa populorum vâm legis obtinuerunt Ideâ habât Saâmeron Tom. 13. Disp 8. saith are introduced from ancient customes by the Prelates or by the people and creepingly by the silent and vnquestioning agreement of the people haue gayned as it were strength of law In which distinction hee clearely acknowledgeth that the Traditions which he stileth Apostolique are not Divine and that Ecclesiasticall are neither Divine nor Apostolicall Whence it is manifest with what subtiltie our adversaries commonly attribute the title of Apostolicall to all Traditions indifferently as if they were all derived from the Apostles and how falsely they comprehend Traditions under the title of The vnwritten word of God when as by their owne confessions a great part of these Traditions is not the Word of God For Traditions that are not divine are necessarily humane And this is evidently seene in the Prayer Bookes for certaine houres and the duties wherwith they charge the people unto whom they first commit Gods ten Commandements and then the commandements of the Church which is an argument of their confession that the commandements of the Church are not Gods commandements In this interim the Councell of Sess 4 Trent at the before recited place maketh no difference betweene Traditions avouching that theâ are all received with like affectioâ of pietie and reverence as the holâ Scripture equalleth those Ecclesiasticall Traditions brought in bâ the Popes at severall times to thââ ten commandements of the divine Law and to the Doctrine of the Gospel written in the New Testament The same Cardinall disputing against Barkley touching the Popes power to depose Kings and cause them to bee killed as also concerning his authoritie over all the Temporaltie of the world not finding either in Scripture or in ancienâ History of the Church any passage or example to countenance and underprop so abhominable a Bellarm. in Barkl cap. 3 Non
hindred from choosing the best Church amongst many contrary How shall they choose Church from the false shall they know it in examining her doctrine by the Scripture that may not be for the Scripture is a Booke that the people are not permitted to reade and our adversaries affirme that the Church is not subject or bound to the Scripture and that the Church may change the same which God commaunded in the Scripture Shall they discerne the true Church by antiquity and succession nor that for the Syrian and Greeke Churches contrary to the Romish are more ancient then that of Rome deriving their succession from the Apostles and punctually to judge in this succession and antiquitie infinite Histories both Greeke and Latine ought to be read wherein the people vnderstand little or nothing And amongst the Clergie it selfe scarce one of an hundred is found that hath but ordinary or competent knowledge therein Hee that but entreth into the view thereof shall discouer the seat of the Romane Pontifies defiled with heresies and enormous crimes yea mangled and rent with Schismes that are decided by stroke of sword and according to the power of Emperours and Kings doeth the scale weigh downe Shall they haue respect to the generalitie and multitude no Iesus Christ calleth his Church a little flocke Luke 12. 32. and signifieth vnto vs that the multitude and broad way leade to perdition Math 7. 13 14. Shal they giue heed to miracles no the Apostle hath foretold us that the sonne of perdition who is Antichrist shall come with signes and miracles 2. Thess 2. 9. And Iesus Christ admonisheth vs that false prophets shall arise and shall make signes wonders to seduce Math. 24. 24. Now seeing that so many false miracles are wrought and the most predominant Courts of Iustice haue made many Decrees against the workers of them how and by what markes shall the poore people distinguish the true miracles from the false seeing there is no knowledge of the true doctrien declaring Gods will that we should discerne the miracles Deut. 13. v. 1 2 3. Briefly it is certaine that the Scriptures authoritie being no more the foundation and direction of the beleeuers faith all Religion vanisheth and turneth into smoke and there remaines nothing but to beleeue at adventure to follow the generalitie and like blind men to lay hands on him that marcheth next before vs. It is answered that in this perplexitie the people are to follow their Doctors and Pastors for they are the men that vndertake with God for the people What must euery man beleeue the Pastors of his owne countrey must they follow the Church wherein they are borne shall man owe his Religion to his birth or the custome of his countrey or the successe of affaires If it bee answered that by the Pastors and Doctors those of the Church of Rome are to be vnderstood therein lies the poynt of difficultie For the question is if those Doctors bee sound and good teachign the true way of health conformably to the Word of God which they conceale from the people in denying them to reade the holy Scriptures then are the people bound to beleeue that these are good Doctors before they know the good doctrine and that this church is the true church before they know or apprehend the truth They are also bound to beleeue what the church of Rome beleeveth not knowing what that Church ought to beleeue But if it be their tenent that every particular person bee assisted with the Spirit of God to bee able to discerne the true Church why hold they not that hee bee assisted with the same spirit to discerne the true doctrine and to examine it by the holy scriptures seeing that the true Church cannot bee distinguished but by the true doctrine for the true faith is first to be knowne before the true faithfull can be distinguished and the true rule is to be well vnderstood before those that follow it can be knowne Christ must first be knowne before there is possibility of knowing undoubtedly what Church is truely his flocke Adde likewise heereunto that the faith of the Romish Doctors dependeth entirely upon the Popes faith neverthelesse they for the greatest part doe beleeue that the Pope may erre and the Popes themselues doe confesse the same as wee haue elsewhere prooved Yea their errors are condemned by those Councels which the Church of Rome did allow And it is hard to beleeue that he cannot erre who boasteth of his authority and power to change that which God hath ordained to dispense with his commandements Add moreover that the greatest ââatterers of the Popes that haue written their histories and liues doe lament the corruption of that seat and complaine of the traffique it exerciseth and of the infamous ââving of many Popes and their intolerable pride for what doth the Pope hee is advanced so far as to call himselfe God and the divine Maiestie to cause himselfe to bee adored to reach forth to Emperours a pantable to be kissed to dispose the crownes and liues of Kings and to release soules out of Purgatory insomuch as from a poore Biship of a citie who in the Primitiue time appeared not but in the martyrdomes is by degrees become a great Monarch of the earth that surpasseth in riches and treasure the greatest Kings of the world These things considered may we fix in our minds a just cause to suppose that the Pope is the same man that the Scripture hath foretold to come into the world to * 2 Thess 2. 7 8. Apoes 13. 11 2. Thess 2. â 4. 9. Apocal. 17. 3. 4. 9. 18. Apocal. 17. 2. Apocal. 13. 15. lift himselfe up into the shrone of Roman Emperours stile himselfe God vaunt of signes and miracles he that should beâ cloathed in scarlet should possesse his seat in a towne of seven mountaines which is Romes description should seduce Kings wage war against the Church and vanquish it and all this vnder the name of Christian assuming to himselfe the title and authoritie of Iesus Christ For so saith the Spirit of God in the 13 of the Apocalipse Hee shall haue the hornes of a Lambe but shall speake like a dragon These things having beene foretold aboue fifteene hundred yeares past no man since that time hath so swelled himselfe to so high a pitch as to haue these recived things appropriated vnto him but the Pope of Rome Is it by chance or adventure that such preâogatiues haue met in one man Surely these considerations are sufficient to cause a suspition in âs that this is the man who should haue more authoritie then the Scripture that would haue himselfe beleeved when hee saith that the Scripture is subject vnto him and that he hath power to change it that is to say to contradict it For no man can extoll himselfe aboue the Scripture vnlesse it bee meerely to impugne it Now though man fearing God and touched with the zeale of his
is most cerâaine that instead of all the Scripâure one sole line might suffice spcaking thus Goe but to the Church of Rome and shee will teach you all things infallibly Now to vnderstand what is the imperfection where of our adversaries accuse the Scripture let vââ obserue what they discourse vpon the same The Councell of Trent in the fourth Session pronounceth that the Church shall receâue and honour the vnwritten Traditions with equall affection of piety and reverence as the holy Scripture The hallowed Synod say these Fathers Omnes libros tam veterus quam novi Testamenta nec non Traditiones ipsas tum ad fiaem tum ad mores pertinentes tanguam vel ore tenus à Christo vel à Christo vel à spiritu sancto dictatas pari pietatis affectu ac reve reÌtia suscipit ac veneratur receaues and honoureth with like affection of godlinesse and reverence all Bookes as well of the Old as the New Testament and the Traditions appertaining to faith and manners as dictated onely by the mouth of Christ or by his holy spirit Yea by this decree the commandements of the Church of Rome are equall to the Law of God and the doctrine of the Gospell contained in the New Testament By this rule the Invocation of Saints commanded by Tradition ought to bee done with like pietie and reverence as the Invocation of God commaunded in the holy Scripture By the authoritie of this Councell Catechismus ad pa ochos ex Decrete Conâtly arid Py 4. Pont. Max. iussis editus Omnis aoctrinae ratio quae fidelibus trâaeda sit quod in Scripturam traditionésque distributum est a Catechisme was framed which in the very entry and be ginning placeth this Maxime that all doctrine which ought to be given to the faithfull is contained in the Word of God which is divided into Scripture and Traditions whence grew vp the distinction of the word written and unwritten Gregory de Valentia the Iesuite in the fift Booke of his Analysis and Scripturans non esse sufficientem fides regulaÌ quta non continet omnia Title of the third Chap. The Scripture is not a sufficient rule of faith for it containeth not all things Cardinall Bellarmine a Iesuite in his Booke of the Vnwritten word Scripturas sine Traditioniâus nec fuisse fimpliciter necessarias nec sâfficientes Chap. 4. The Scriptures without Traditions are not simply necessary nor sufficient And there againe he calleth the Scripture regulam non totalem sed partialem a rule not entire but a piece or parcell of a rule The Iesuite Baile in the 9 question of his Catechisme I will make you poynt it with your finger that the Scripture is not sufficient Peter Charren in the fourth Chap. of his third Verity saith that to require all to bee proued by Scripture is an vniust demand And not much after The Scripture is nothing but a little par cell of truth revealed Part. 3. disp 8 § ãâã ãâã Stultum est omnia ab Apostolus scripta putare vol omnia abââis tradita ãâã Etin iniurtam vergerat agentis râvelantis Spiritus Et insuave esset natura nostre quae omnia simul non capit Salm ron the Iesuite in his 13. Tome of the first Booke of his Commentaries vpon the Epistles of Saint Paul It is a sottishnesse to thinke that the Apostle haue written all things or haue given all by Tradition that would turne to an injury against the holy Ghost operating and revealing and it would bee a thing repugnant to our nature that comprehenaeth not all things at a clap Of which vn written Traditions that haue been started since the Apostles time he fercheth some examples to wit the Ecclesiasticall § Quint. opus Hierarchy that is to ay the Papall Monarchy with the subordinate degrees the service of Images and §. Postremo the suffrages of the dead the Masse and manner of sacrificing and the §. Porro Tradition that Iesus Christ hath made a sacrifice in bread and wine that he then made the Chrisme c. Hee rendreth the reason why these things should not be written to the end that the Commandement §. Quint. opus Haec literis coÌsignari minimè debuerisnt ââ soruaretu praecepiuÌ Christi Nolite dare sanctum canibus of Iesus Christ bee kept who chargeth in this manner Giue not to dogs that which is holy Vpon this Iesuites reckoning the doctrine of the birth and death of our Saviour was given to dogs when it was digested in writing And God gaue his Law to dogs when he wrote it in two Tables But as for the Papall Hierarchy Image-service Romish Indulgences Invocation of Saints c. God would not haue such holy things to be cast to dogs nor hath he permitted them to be written And there againe Waxing insolent § Tertio Protervire voientes scriptuââ refelli non possunt idea una tradiââone lugulandi sunt and froward they cannot bee vanquished by the Scriptures therfore must their throats be cut with one Tradition alone Coster a Iesuite in the Preface of Pâaefat Enchiââd Nostri toporis haretici ad solas Sâipturas tanquam ad laxum adharescunt Idem cap de sacra script In membranis tam nâvi guae veteris Test aÌ multa desiderantur In ea tamen oâ nta non contineri valde impudeÌter affirmare non verentur A Christe videtur cautum ne omniâ fider dogmata scriptu coÌmendarmtur dum ait Nolite dare sanctum canibus his Manuell The Heretiques of our time doe sticke to the Scriptures as to a rock That displeaseth the Doctor for saith hee In the Parchments as well of the Old as New testament many things are wanting And further they feare not to affirme with great impudence that all things are contained in the Scripture And a little after It seemes that Iesus Christ forbad all the doctrines of Faith to be couched in writing when hee sayd Giue not to âggs that which is holy As if the Scripture were made for the dogs And who may these dogs bee but the Christian people Now seeing that Iesus Christ hath given the Scripture to these dogs that is to say to the people wherefore doth the Pope take from them that which Iesus Christ hath given unto them in debarring them of the reading Reason would require that our Adversaries specifie vnto vs what are the Doctrines that are wanting in the Scripture and that they make us a catalogue of their Traditions But they haue not dared to doe it hitherto fearing to affright the people with the multitude of doctrines which they haue patched to the word of God We learne by the History of the Hist del Concilio Trident. lib. 2. Ann. 1546. Councell of Trent that besides the publike Sessions of the Councell they caused Congregations to be made of Prelates and Doctors to make draughts of the Decree which should bee
of the 7. booke of the Apostles constitutions saith that The Church of Ecclesia Rom na quae Apostolita vtens potestate su gula pro conââtione temâoâum in melius mutat Quartae fertae ãâã quod diu mansit in Ecclesia nunc quod est doleââuÌ at que lugenduÌ cum alijs optimis matoruÌ institutu in desuetudinem abijt Gregor de Vateâ Tom 4 disp 6. qa 8. puncto 5. sect 10. Et certè quaedaÌ posterioribus temporibus rectiut âonstituâa esse in ecâlesia quaÌ initio se haberent Id confirmat authoriâate Ambâosij Thomae Waldensis Tomo 2. de Sacrament cap. 94. Rome chalenging to her selfe Apostolicall authority can change and alter every thing to better according to the condition of the times yet there complaineth that a custome of the ancient Church to fast on wednesdayes and many other very good Lawes were abolished Gregory of Valence in the fourth Tome of his Commentaries and the sixth Disputation maketh no difficulty to affirme that Many things in these latter times are better ordained in the Church then they were in the beginning that is to say from the Apostles time The sacred Scripture in the 18. and 20. of Leuiticus layeth downe certaine degrees of consanguinity alliance which hinder mariage whereof the most remoued is the mariage of the Vncle with the Neece or the Aunt with the Nephew which are mariages forbidden and declared incestuous by the word of God which permitteth mariages in other degrees De la permission d'espouser les 2. soeurs voyez Almain au li. de la puissance Eccl. larque more remoued But the Pope vsurpeth power to himselfe in giuing liberty to mariages forbidden in the Scripture yea extending so far as to a toleration of marying two sisters as also hee permitteth the Vncle to mary the Neece On the otherside he forbiddeth mariages in more remote degrees and which God permitteth in his holy word as mariages betweene the issues of cosen germanes and betweene cosen germanes remoued Whereupon the Councell of Trent in the 24. Session at the 3. Canon denounceth an Anathema against al those that shall say that the church of Rome cannot forbid mariage in degrees allowed by the word of God and cannot dispense in degrees forbidden Thus runneth the Si quis dixerit cos tantuÌ consanguini tâtâât affinitatis gradus qui ââuââico exprimuâtur posse impedire matrimonium contrahendum dirimere contractum nec posse Ecclesiâ in nonnullu illoruÌ dispensare aut censtituere vt plures impediant dirimant Anathema sit Canon If any man saith that there are no more degrees of consanguinity and alliance then what are expressed in Leuiticus that can hinder from contracting of mariage or separate that which is contracted and that the Church cannot dispence in some of these degrees nor ordaine that many other degrees hinder or separate the mariage let him bee an Anathema This Councell curseth those which say that the Church of Rome cannot alter Gods ordinance nor dispense with that which God hath forbidden in his holy Word It is true that in the same Session this Councell giveth an exception in these In secundo gradu âunquaÌ dispensetur nisi inter magnos Prinâipes et ob publiâaÌâausam words Let no dispensation be giuen in the second degree vnlesse betweene great Princes and for publicke cause For the lawes of the Church of Rome open or shut according to the quality and riches of the persons Now it were good to know whether to marry a wiues sister or his âeece or cosen a dispensation were ever asked of Saint Peter and whether hee gaue dispensation to the rich and sent the poore away According to this power that the Pope arrogateth to himselfe to dispense against Gods commandement contained in the Scriptures âhee dispenseth with persons concerning their oaths and vowes he dispenseth with subjects and officers of a King for keeping the fidelitie sworne to their Soveraigne Prince Hee separateth marriages lawfully contracted under the shadow of Religion against the Lords commandement speaking of the dissolution of Marriages Math. 19. 6. What God hath joyned together let no man put assunder For the same that Tolet speaketh of the Apostles may bee spoken of Iesus Christ that all that hee hath institutâd is not Lib 1. instât Sâcârd c. 68. Iure divino He exempteth children from obedience to their parents contrary to the Law of God when they are cast into Monastâries against the willes of their fathers and mothers He suffereth whoredome yea in Rome it selfe and there establisheth Brothell-houses against the Law of God He hath forbidden the publike Service in â knowne tongue appoynted Masses without Communicants and ordained Image-service against the expresse commandements of Iesus Christ and the Apostle Saint Paul and against the practise of the primitiue Church yea against the very Law of God as wee will shew in fit place These things and many more the like doe explaine that the question betweene vs and our adversaries is not alone whether the Apostles haue taught Traditions by mouth which they would not haue to bee set downe in writing and whether besides the Scripture there ought also Apostolicall Traditions to bee received For the principall poynt of difference is touching the Traditions which our Adversaries confesse not to haue beene written nor taught by the mouth of the Apostles and which haue beene long since introduced And touching the Popes power to add to the Creed and to establish new articles of faith Yea especially and above all touching an arrogance without example wherein the Pope and Church of Rome attribute to themselues the power of annulling Gods commandements and of the Apostles contained in holy Scriptures and to alter the institution of our Lord and to judge as Cardinall Perron speaketh that such and such commandements of our Lord are dispensable These kind of Traditions ought to bee called after the Italian word Tradimenti treasons or conspiracies against God CHAP. VII Passages extracted out of the Writings of our adversaries which proue that in the Church of Rome Traditions are without comparison more esteemed and respected then the holy Scripture and the Scripture reviled and charged with iniuries Iesuite Regourds boldnesse to blemish and defame the Scripture THe Councell of Trent in the fourth Session seemeth contented to equall Tradition with the Scripture ordaining that the one and the other be received and honoured with like affection of pietie reverence But this Councell doth now as customarily it doth propose its doctrine in doubtfull termes involving it selfe in darknesse and obsuritie For whosoever is never so little versed in the writings of our adversaries or hath exactly considered the practise and customes of the Romish Church shall easily discover that the holy Scripture is of no comparison with the value and account of Tradition which is exalted with praises and magnificall titles as also most carefully observed whilst the Scripture
is rejected and made odious to the people as a dangerous booke I. We haue seene in the former Chapter how our adversaries affirme openly that the Pope and Church of Rome can alter the Lords Institution and nullifie his Ordinance the which being granted it necessarily followeth that the tradition of the Church which correcteth the holy Scripture and altereth what is therein ordained bee of greater authoritie then the Scripture II. When our adversaries vnanimously affirme that the Scripture is not Iudge but that the authority of judging belongeth to the Church heereby they withdraw us from the Scriptures judgement to rely vpon the Churches Tradition for by the Tradition of the Church they onely understand the Lawes of the Church of Rome by the which they would haue us judged III. When they say that the Stapleton lik 2. de authoritate Scripturae cap. 11. Dixâ et dâcâ non taÌ ipsius fidei regulam in se esse scripturaÌ quam ipsam scripturaâuÌ reguâaÌ esse ãâã Ecclesiâ Scripture is not the rule of our faith but that it is the faith of the Church that ruleth the Scripture they manifestly preferre Tradition of the church before Scripture for the faith of the Church and Tradition of the Church are all one IIII. These goodly Maximes wherewith they dull our eares Charron aâ 2. chap de lâ troisieme verite Nous voulous l'eglise avoir pour nostre regard plus d'authorite que l'escriture That the Church ought to haue more authoritie over vs then the Scripture That it is the Church which giveth authoritie to the Scriptures and that the authoritie of the Scripture over vs is founded vpon the authoritie of the Church what are their meaning other then that the Scripture oweth that authoritie she hath to the Tradition of the Church For the Tradition of the Church is nothing else but the voice and judgement of the Church whereby shee pronounceth as being a soveraigne and infallible Iudge that the Scripture ought to be received V. If the Scripture must bee Staplet lib. 1 de authorit Scriptura c. 9 Ipsis Prophâtis è medio âublatu ââruÌ prophetâas à Deo esse credeâduÌ non est nisi id Ecclesia confiâmet Synodus Romana sub Gregor 7. Quod nullus liber Canonicus habeatur sine authoritate Papa beleeved because the Tradition of the Church so ordained it what followeth but that Tradition of the Church of Rome is more credible then the Scripture VI. The Iesuite Coster in his Enchiridion chap. 1. calleth the doctrine imprinted in the heart of the Church an other species or kind of Scripture and compareth it also with holy Scriptures The excellence Huius Scripturae praestantia âulâis partibus suâerat scripturas quas nobis in membraââ Apostoli reliquerunt PrimuÌ quod illa exarata sit digito dei hac calamis ApostoloruÌ saith hee of this kind of Scripture surpasseth much the holy Scripures which the Apostles haue left vs in parchment especially because this is witten with the finger of God the other was written with Apostles pens By his leaue I would willingly aske him whether the Apostles pennes were not guided by the spirit of God VII Carranza in the second Controversie The Church is a rule Nos diâimus quod prior regula et notior et multo latior est Ecclesia quam Scriptura canonica ât hac ab illa debet regulari non è contra that is elder and more knowne yea much more ample then the Canonicall Scripture and this ought to be governed by that but not on the contrary ân saying that the Church is a rule ât is evident that by the Church âee understandeth the Tradition and lawes of the Church for the persons are not the rule VIII Bellarmine in his fourth QuadaÌ sunt Traditiones maiores quod ad obligationeÌ quaÌ quadam Scripturae booke of the Word of God chap. 6. There are Traditions that are greater then some Scriptures in poynt of obligation IX Salmeron in his first Prolegomenon § Nunc de Nam etsi Eccclesiae ac Scripturae authoritas à Deo sit illa tamen Ecclesia antiquior est atque adeo dignior siquideÌ Scripturâ propter EcclesiaÌ contexta est Though the authoritie as well of the Church as of the Scripture bee of God yet the authoritie of the Church is more ancient yea and more worthy for the Scripture is made for the Church By the same reason one might say that subjects haue more authoritie then Lawes and Kings for the people are more ancient then Lawes and Kings and Lawes and Kings are made because of the people Now the authoritie of the Church of Rome cannot bee promoted aboue the Scripture but that by the same reason the authoritie of Tradition in the Church of Rome is to be advanced aboue the Scripture for Tradition is the law of the Church of Rome X. Cordubensis To decide contrâversies Câdub Art â cap. 80. Catholicae Ecclesiâ Traditiâ est certissââa regula of the Faith Tradition of the Catholique Church is the most certaine Rule XI Wee haue formerly heard Coster and Salmeron the Iesuites speaking that God would not haue Traditions that are taught out of the Apostles mouth to bee written for feare lest holy things should be given to doggs Herein doe they not clearely signifie that the Scriptures are for the dogs but that God would not haue Traditions to bee in such danger as being more sanctified things and worthy of greater respect XII To what end doe these men say that Iesus Christ hath commaunded the Apostles to preach and not to write but that unwritten Tradition might be preferred before the Scripture and haue much more authoritie XIII Did it ever happen that any of our adversaries haue reported the same of Traditions which they haue said of Scripture Haue they ever called the Traditions a dumbe rule a part or parcell of a rule an ambidexter sword a stone of scandall a nose of wax haue they ever accused Traditions of obscurity of ambiguity or of imperfection as they haue the Scripture XIV But the Iesuite Salmeron shall suffice for all for in the third part of his 13 Tome and 8 Disputation hee treateth of this matter punctually and at large and thus compareth Scripture with Tradition Tradition saith he is aboue all § Estiginââ ãâã est ãâã ad salute ãâã ãâã Ebidem Pââââ ergo Scriptura ââmendat traditione ãâã ãâã scripturaÌ et ob id magis est necessaria quia ad ãâã come adandaÌ est Scriptura-Necessaria ost ãâã ad ãâã du bra qua expresse in scri ãâã âon contiâent or nec ãâã §. Postreââ Ibidem âui noÌ creditura dirâom in ecclesia receta ãâã scriptura malo ãâã similes est ââlâââ aebitum reddere si non osteÌdatur syngraâha cum satu sit idoneos produceââ restes §. Secunda Seâunda coÌditio ãâã ãâã quââ sit Ser. ãâã ãâã § ãâã Trtia conditio
Scriptures in paper nor was he pleased to committ his mysteries to parchment Salmeron in his second Prolegomenon In the Church of God understanding §. Septimo Scriptura Addimus in Ecclesia Dei esse Spiritum sanctuÌ Scriptura authoreÌ Non mirum ergo si Ecclesia Dei quae SpirituÌ habet subijciatur alwayes the Romish is the holy spirit which is Authour of the Scripture it is no marvell then if the Scripture bee subiect to the Church that hath the spirit What is not the Pope subject to the Scripture is hee not subiect to the Law of God which God hath given us written in two tables Is hee not obliged to obey the Doctrine of the Gospell written in the New Testament Now if the head of the Church of Rome be subiect to the Scripture how much more the Church of Rome that is subject to the Pope But is it not a transcendent blasphemy to defend that the Scripture is subject to the Church of Rome For is not the holy Scripture the Word of God It must otherwise follow that the word of God is subject to men and that Gods commaundements are subordinate to the Pope to whom the Church of Rome is subject Now tell mee after such abhomination whether these men doe beleeue that there is one God and one Religion Thomas Stapleton an English Doctour in his second Booke of the Authority of the Scripture chap. Dâ non tââsius siâeâ reguâam in se esse scripturam quaÌ ipsaruÌ scripturaruÌ regulam esse fideÌ Ecclesiae 11. I haue said and doe say that the Scripture in it selfe is not the rule of faith but the faith of the Church is the rule of Scripture Now the faith of the Church is nothing but Tradition of the Church His scope then is that the Scripture shall bee regulated and examined by the Tradition of the Romish Church and that it shall bee subiect to that rule whence is to bee concluded that God speaking to us in the holy Scriptures is directed by men and subject to their judgment The Prophets whose writings are extant with vs were extraordinarily stirred up to reprehend the church of that time and to chastise the Priestes the Sacrificers and the Scribes that erred in manners and doctrine Now in reason tell me were the prophesies of these Prophets subject to the authoritie of that Church Was the faith of these Sacrificers a rule by which those divine Prophesies were to be examined and which wee haue kept to this present time Goe to then if the prophecies were not subiect to Priests and Sacrificers that lived about the Prophets time how are they now subiect to the Pope by what occasion are they become subiect to the superintendency of the Church of Romes Tradition Briefly wee are now arriued at an age wherein blasphemy is come to the highest degree men openly professing to pull God with violence from his Throne and most insolently to climbe aboue him Surely the Mahometans do speake of the Scripture with more respect and reuerence What is the scope or purpose of Iesuite Regourds late booke intitled Catholicke demonstrations but to proue that to rest vpon the Scripture is the way to all impiety and atheisme If herein he meant only our French Bibles or the diuersity of latine translations or the sundry interpretations which hee discouereth in some of our Doctours though all this which hee saith are but calumnies and a Fardell of vnprofitable trifles which wee haue refuted in a former treatise yet this were to forge vntruths with Method and scarce to touch vpon the question but he meaneth the originals Hebrew and Greeke wherein hee findeth no certainty Hee discouereth in them manifest contradictions Pag. 440. and errour in the calculation of times Hee sayes that S. Paul Pag. 562. vsed fraud but an honest fraud towards the Corinthians He telleth vs Pag. 128. 131. that many bookes of the Scripture are lost that the Scriptures were burnt in time of persecution and the Copies perished that many deuout Doctours Pag. 131. doe affirme that vnder the captiuity of Babylon all the old Testament was depraued rent in pieces and burnt vntill Esdras did newly re-compose the same Scriptures that the Iewes our Sauiours enemies haue made vowells Pap. 183. in the old Testament and so changed the sense of the scripture and made it doubtfull The same saith he is true of the new Testament the which hauing beene written without accents and without markes and distinctions of words no man can assure himselfe of the true sense seeing that the sense dependeth upon the accents c. And a litle further We haue not therfore any true knowledge of the sense of the Scripture and consequently wee are pointed and referred over to the mercy of the contestations of Grammarians to the litigious craft of criticall spirits to the capritious fancies of Dictionary-makers to the Gallimafries and Chimeraes of scholiasts Now for all these difficulties there is but one single remedy to weet we must repaire to the Church that is to say the Pope and whom it shall bee his pleasure to authorise Whereupon it were good to know when there iâ a question concerning the exposition of an Hebrew or Greeke passage whether a Pope who vnderstands neither Hebrew nor Greeke shall therein be a good Interpreter whether sitting in the Apostoliâke chaire hee shall giue infallible interpretations of a Text whereof he knoweth not a letter whether hauing called the Doctours to instruct him thereupon hee instantly reinuesteth them with an infallible spirit and enableth them with power not to erre in matters wherein hee himselfe vnderstandeth nothing Whence then proceedeth so great a diuersity and contrariety amongst these Doctouâs in the Scriptures interpretation why amongst their writings doe they refute the interpretations of one the other Is it not the Pope and the Church of Rome that by the Councell of Trent hath authorised the vulgar âatine translation and ordained âhat it should onely be receiued for âuthenticall although it bee the worst interpretation of all and stuffed with a thousand errours and absurdities haue not the Popes themselues since the Councell of Trent caused multitudes of faults to bee amended therein doe not the most learned of the Romish Church Pagnin Arias Montanus Isidorus Clarius Andradius Sixtus Senensis complaine of the corruption of this translation wherein the Iesuites themselues are not silent especially Salmeron in his Salm. Proâ 9. Quinqua l. Can. 5. In nouo Testamento sequenda est editio vulgata ac teâenda corrigenda tamen emaculanda prius in his in quibus aut temporum iniuria aut labrariorum incurâa vel imperiââa depraââta est ninth Prolegomenon of these things wee haue written at large in our first Treatise of the Iudge of controversies The peruersnes of this Iesuiticall sparke is most of all discouered herein that hauing once displayed as hee supposeth the defaults of the Scripture hee reioyceth that such
prescribed any Law to the Church of Rome when as all the Councells haue beene made and haue taken their force by the authority of the Church of Rome and in their statutes the authority of the Pope is cleerly excepted Who doth not perceiue that in these words by the Church of Rome the Pope alone is vnderstood for our Aduersaries deny not but that the people and Clergie of the Church of Rome are subject to the Councells The Iesuite Gregory of Valence in Pontifexiââ Romaââ eât in quâ authâritas illa rââdet quâ in Ecclesia extat ad iudgâanduÌ de omnibus omnino controversis fidei the title of the seuenth booke of his Analysis The Pope of Rome is he in whom resideth all authority of the Church to iudge entirely of all doubts of the Faith Andradius in his first booke of the defence of the Tridentine faith Fide Papae nostra continetur ex eius vnjus authoritate salus omnium pendet Our faith consisteth in the faith of the Pope and vpon his authority alone dependeth all mens saluation Iudge whether mans saluation bee not well deriued Whereupon hee Non minor est Papae ad controversias dirimendas quaÌ Ecclesiae totius authoritas speaks there againe that the authority of the Pope to decide all controuersies is not lesse then the authority of the whole Church And wee haue formerly heard the Iesuite Vasques affirming that the authority of the Pope is not lesse then that of the Apostles and that hee can abrogate and cancell the Apostles commandements In the second Session of the last Lateran Councell these words are expresse Behold Ecce adest Divi Petri successor Iââ lius noÌ minor authoritate Iulius the Successour of Saint Peter no lesse in authority then him It is true that when the Pope will hee ioyneth some Prelates with him to assist him in his decreeing But whereas hee cals and chooseth whom hee will these Prelates haue not authority but by him and the Pope an enact all without them This is that which Cardinall Bellarmine hath in his third booke of Iste iudex non potest esse scripturae c. Igitur Princeps Ecc esiasticus vel solus vel cum consilto et coÌsensu coepiscop orum the word of God Chap. 9. That iudge cannot bee the Scripture therefore is it the Ecclesiasticall Prince either alone or with the aduice approbation of the brother Bishops For so our Aduersaries doe joyntly hold that when the Pope iudgeth in the Apostolicke chaire and as Pope his sole opinion and decree is as firme and certaine as if a Councell had voted vpon it And to remoue all doubt our adversaries blush not openly to affirme that by this word Church Grego de Valent Tom 3. in Thom. disput 1. q. 1. pusto 5. sect â the Pope is to bee vnderstood Gregory of Valence the Iesuite after hauing said that the full authority of Hane authoritatem pleue in Romano Pontifice c resâdere qui scilicet de sides et morum controverstis ad vniversaleÌ EcclesiaÌ pertinetibus vel per se vel cuÌ generali Concilio sufficienter coÌstituat Iam igitur quuÌ dicimus propositionem Ecclesiae esse conditionem necessariam ad assansu ââ fidei nomine Ecclesia intelligimus eius caput id est RomanuÌ PontificeÌ per seâvel vna cuÌ Concilio iudging controuersies of the faith and manners which concerne the vniuersall Church doth plenarily reside in the Pope of Rome Christs Vicar hee addeth Now therefore when wee say that the Proposition of the Church is a condition necessary to oblige the Faith to one agreement by this word Church wee vnderstand her head which is to say the Pope of Rome either alone or with the Councell For hee is not of opinion that the Councell bee necessarily required Bellarmine expoundeth it thus in his second booke of the Councels Chap. 19. The Pope saith hee ought to speake it to the Church that is to say to himselfe And Pope Innocent the third in his Chapter Novit extra de iudicijs attributeth to himselfe the taking notice of a difference betweene Philip the second surnamed Augustus King of France and Iobn King of England for it is written tell it to the Church Now S. Peter was one of those to whom Iesus Christ spake Tell it to the Church was this Apostle able to divine that Iesus Christ vnderstood Tell it to thy selfe and that Iesus Christ would haue the party complainant to be iudge see then the Church which is a word that signifieth an assembly reduced to one man And the sense of this Article of the Creed I beleeue the Church shall bee I beleeue the Pope who sometimes cals himselfe god sometimes Iesus Christ and sometimes the Church so he shall bee Bridegroome and Spouse and one man shal cal himselfe an assembly And tell me to what purpose are Councels assembled so long and so painfull seeing nothing is to bee done but to consult the Papall Oracle with in one instant can decide al controversies without possibilitie of erring seeing I say that in one man wee haue the vniversall Church that the Councell can doe nothing without the Pope and that the Pope can doe all and judge of all without the Councell Whereupon Bellarmine affirmeth Bellar. lib. 4. de Roman Pontifice ca. 2. Sect. videntur IpsaÌ insallibilttatem non esse in coetu consiliariorum vel in concilio E. piscoporum sed in solo Pentisice with all the Doctors that the Infallibilitie of a Councell is not in the assembly of the Counsellers nor in the Councell of Bishops but in the Pope alone and yet in the meane time the Popes themselues never appeare not in the Councels This Advertisment was very necessary to the end that the Reader might know that as by the authoritie of the Church is understood the authoritie of the Pope so by Traditions of the Church nothing is understood but the Ordinances made or approoved by the Pope for they subsist not but by his authoritie and though they haue passed through a Councell yet the Pope can change abolish them and institute new in their stead without wayting for a Councell For should he haue lesse authoritie over Traditions then over the holy Scripture wherein he can alter the Ordinances and Institutions of our Lord He can dispense against the Apostle should not he be able to dispense against a Councell or against the custome which hath authorised a Tradition It is the same that Andradius expresly teacheth in the second Booke of his Defence of the Tridentine Faith Liquet minime eos ârrasse qui dicunt Romanos Pontifices posse nonnunquam in legibus dispensare a Paulo et a primis quaetuor Concilys Greg. 1. lib. 1. Epist 24. Those saith hee erre not who affirme that sometimes the Popes in their lawes can dispence contrary to that of S. Paul and the foure first Councels which are the
Pag. 1009. Et quat aux auteris plus proches du siecle Apostouque encore qu'il ne s'y trouue pas de vestages de vesta coustume c. Pag. 994. Quelques particuliers ãâã que les ames des fideles ãâã point la visin is Diââ avant is augament final c. L'Eglise n'avcit point incore prononce la decisian la dessus is due to be the best versed in the study of the Father's confesfeth freely that in the Authors neerest approching to the Apostles time there appeareth no trace of this custome of invoking Saints Yea he acknowledgeth that then when S. Augustine wrote which was some 420. yeeres after the birth of our Saviour the doctrine of those which hold that the Saints know not the occurrences of things acted here below was not condemned and that the Church had not yet made a decision thereupon and indeed all that our Adversaries alledge out of the Fathers of the three first ages and more then halfe the fourth upon this question are passages ser ving to prove that the Saints pray for us which is a point that willingly wee condiscend unto but not to prove it behovefull for us to invoke the Saints nor to allow them a religious service The approbation of the bookes 3. Maccabees of Maccabees amongst other books Divine and Canonicall is inserted by our Adversaries in their unwritten Traditions Yet this is not a Tradition received from the beginning by all the Catholike Le Concile de Laodiceâ Can. 58. Melââââ aââgué pur Eusebe ââ 5. libâââ foni histoirà chap. 24. Origene surââs primier Ps ãâã par Eâseb lib. 6 cap. 24 Tertull ââ 4 liure de ses Carmes Eujebe Chron. Olymp. 116. ãâã Cateeltesi quarta Athanas Epost 39. Synops Na-Zianz Caââân Epiph. de mensuris et ponderibus Hilar. prologo Psalmorum Church the Councell of Laodicea rejecteth them and Meliton Bishop of Sardius neere the time of the Apostles and Origen and Tertullian and Eusebius and Athanasius and Cyril of Ierusalem and Hilarie and Gregorie of Nazianzene and Amphilochius Bishop of Iconia and Epiphanius Bishop of Salamine and Philustreus Bishop of Bresse and Saint Ierome in Prologâ Galeato and in his Preface upon the Bookes of Salomon and Ruffin upon the Lords Prayer all of these were persons remarkeable in the third and fourth ageâ Yea and Pope Gregorie the 1. who wrote neere upon the end of the fifth age in the 19. of his Morals Chap. the 17 as we have proved elsewhere in amplemanner wherefore this is no Tradition received wholly and at all times by the Church universall By this very Plea the Romish 4. Indulgences Indulgences ought to be rejected the which Indulgences I understand to bee a Tradtion wherewith the Pope heapeth up the superfluity of the satisfactions of Iesus Christ and the Saints to the treasure of the Church and convertech them to payment for others by his Indulgences which he hoardeth in certaine Churches of Rome and causeth that the people from all parts repaire thither to purchase pardons I say that these Indulgences are new and that neither the Apostles nor their disciples did convert the superaboundance of the sufferings of Abrabam or of Saint Iohn the Baptist or of the Virgine Mary to payment for others and kept no treasury to hold the superabounding satisfactions of the Saints and gave no pardons of one or two hundred thousand yeeres as the Pope doth and that these Indulgences have beene altogether unknowne in the first ages of the Christian Church by the plaine confession of our Adversaries Cardinall Cajetan in the 2. Chap. of his Treatise of Indulgences hath these words * De ertu IndulgentiaruÌ si certituââ habert posset veritati indà ganda opem ferret Verum quia nulla sacra Scriptura nulla priscoruÌ DoctoâuÌ GraecoruÌ aut LââinoruÌ au ãâã asscripra hane ad nostraÌ deduxit notitiam sed hee solum a treemtis ennâ scriprurae coÌmendatuÌ de ve tustus Paââtbus c. Gabrtel Biel Lect. 57. Decendum quod ante tempora B. Gregorij modicus vel âullus fuit vsus Indulgentiarum Nuâââ autem crebrescit ãâã vsuâ quiae sine dubiâ Ecclesia habens spiritaÌ sponsi sut Christi et idcirco non errans c. Navan us Coment de Iobel ât Indutg pag. 545 Quate autent apud antâqâos tam rara apud recentiores taÌ frequens sit Indulgentiarum mentio docuit ille vit sanctissimus c. Iâhannis Roffensis câ ãâã ea de re verboruÌ summa est Quod non certo constat à ãâã primuÌ tradi coeperint c. Quod multa aâ Evangelijs ât alijs scripturu nuÌc sunt âxcusa âucuâântius intellectu perspicacius quaÌ fuerunt olim Quod nemo ââ dubitat orthodoxus an Purgatârium sit de quo tameÌ apud priscos illos nulla vel quaÌ rarissima fiebat mentio Quod non fuit tam necessaria siue Purgatârij siue Indulgâtiârum fides explicita in ârimitiua ecâlesia atque âunc est c. Anton. Sum. ââ S. Theolog. art 1. tit 10. 3. de Indul. l. 202. Veâtijs ann â82 5. bridgeent of Cup. If we could have any certainty concerning the originall of Indulgences it would helpe as much in the disquisition of the truth but we have not by writing any authority either of the holy Scripture or of ancient Doctors Greeke or Latine that affordeth us the least knowledge thereof Gabriel Biel Lect. 57. upon the Canon of the Masse We must confesse that before the time of Gregory that is to say in the six first ages the use of Indulgences was very little or none at all but now the practice of them is growne frequent for without doubt the Churoh hath the Spirit of Christ her Spouse and therefore erreth not Navarrus the Popes Penitentiary What is the cause that among the ancients so little mention is made of Indulgences and among it the moderne they are in such use Iohn of Rochester most holy and reverend for his dignity of Bishop and Cardinall hath taught us the reason saying that The explicite faith whether it bee of Purgatory or of Indulgences was not so necessary in the Primitive Church as now And a little after Whil st there was no heed taken to Purgatory no man enquired after Romish Indulgences because thereupon dependeth the properây and worth of them Antonine Archbishop of Florence whom the Pope canonized for a Saint speaketh to the same purpose Touching Indulgences we have nothing expresly recited in holy Scripture although the saying of the Apostle be alledged upon this subject 1 Cor. If I have pardoned any thing I have done it for your sake in the person of Christ Nor are found at all in the writings of the ancient Doctors but of the moderne It is therefore no small abuse to place Indulgences amongst Apostolike Traditions Of the same ranke is that Tradition which excludeth the people from the communion of the Cup it
should approach and teach them the come that is to say the future ââ vents of things foretold in the Epistles written by the Apostles as for example that there should arise 1. Tim 4 false Doctors teaching to abstaine from mariage and victual and that the son of perdition should name 2. Thâss 2. himselfe God and should practise with signes miracles to seduce and that the great Whore clothed Apoc. 17. in scarlet sitting in a Towne of seven mountaines should intoxicate Kings and glut her selfe with the blood of the faithfull c. As also the estate and condition of the Christian Church and of the spiriâuall kingdome of Iesus Christ which the Apostles did not as then fully comprehend Aboue all they presse the 15. verse of the second chapter of the second to the Thessalonians Therefoâe brethren stand fast and hold the traditions which ye haue bâene taught whether by word or our Epistle The word Tradition which the ãâã Apostle maketh use of doth purport and signifie all instruction In Au I. ch de ceste controverse this sense the Scripture it selfe is a Tradition as wee haue already proved As touching this passage our aduersaries doe inferre that besides the Epistle which S. Paul wrote to the Thessalonians hee had vttered vnto them many things by word of mouth vnto which I shall willingly condescend for wee would not maintaine that the first Epistle to the Thessalonians contained all the doctrine of salvation our dispute is not whether a little Epistle of Saint Paul but whether the old and new Testament containe all that is necessary to salvation therefore this passage is not to purpose Moreouer when the same Apostle did say Hold the traditions which you haue learned by our word or by the holy Scriptures it must not bee thereupon concluded that the mysteries which hee had tolde them were others then those that are written for the same thing may be taught by divers meanes And when the precepts delivered by the Apostles mouth had some disparitie with those that are written wee could say that such things flowing from the Apostles mouth over and aboue that which is found in the Scriptures were not poynts of Faith but Ordinances touching Ecclesiasticall policie Yea when wee shall haue yeelded to our adversaries all that they wish and long for yet is all fruitlesse and nothing done by them unlesse they proue that these Traditions which they say were given to the Thessalonians by mouth are the poynts whereof consisteth our controversie to wit the Popes Supremacie over the Church of the whole world Romish Indulgences single life of Priests the Communion under one kind borrowed Satisfactions a restraint of reading the Scripture Masses without Communicants Prayers wherein the Petitioner understandeth nothing the power of the Pope to release soules out of Purgatory and to depose Kings c. which are Traditions of a new impression and which the Church of the Thessalonians yet subsisting and hath so continued since the Apostle Saint Paul did never beleeue nor as yet alloweth of their validitie but defieth them with all loathing and detestation Saint Ambrose in his Commentarie vpon this place by the Tradition whereof the Apostle speaketh vnderstands the doctrine of the Gospell which our Adversaries would not deny to bee contalând Ve prasciantia Dei maneat in salute illorum ideirco in traditione Evangelij standuÌ ac perseverandum monet in the New Testament To the âd saith he that the foreknowledge âf God should remaine in their saluaâion hee admonisheth them to stand âast and perseuere in the tradition of âhe Gospell I am of opinion I shall preuent âur Adversaries from interrupting âee more in the passages which âhey alleadge Saint Paul saith âVe speake wisedome among those that âre perfect 1. Cor. 2. 6. And againe âaue before thine eyes and hold fast the âatterne or forme of sound words which thou hast heard of me 2. Tim. 1. 13. In a third place now I praise âou that you remember mee in all âhings and keepe my Ordinances as I deliuered them vnto you 1. Cor. 11. â Ergo for so they conclude the things which are preached are difâering from those that are written And what are the things Invocation of Saints seruice to Imageâ c. In all this what a defect then is of common sense The jaw-bone of Sampsons Asse or Tobiâ dog might be as well imployed Concerning the words in the 16. of the Acts at the 4. That Paul and Silas passing through the Cities instructed them to keepe the Ordinances decreed by the Apostles and by the Elders of Ierusalem In these Ordinances are vnderstood the restraints of eating blood strangled creatures whereof mention is made in Acts the 15. for in this voyage Paul and Silas were bearers of this Ordinance and Paul waâ expresly sent to performe thâ same Now this Ordinance iâ written as also the alteration waâ made since the Apostles time anâ it is but a Ceremony ordained foâ a time and not a doctrine necessary to salvation and when somâ Ordinances should be here vnderstood how shall it be proued vnto âs that these Ordinances are others then those that are written how shall it bee proued vnto vs that these ordinances were invocation of Saints adoration of Reâiques the Popes Supremacie â This will never bee proued CHAP. XVIII An answere to that which is objected unto us that the Church hath beene sometime without the Scripture TO undervalue the authority of the Scripture and to make it annecessary it is objected unto us that the Church from the creation untill Moses for the space of 2454 yeeres hath beene without the Scripture And that as Irenaeus is witnesse from the time of the Apostles and their Disciples âââ nations whercunto the wrirings of the Apostles were not yet at that time come have not omitted conserve the purity of the Gospel To which wee answere that when God speaketh from heaven or sendeth Angels to instruct men concerning his will the Scripture might easily be neglected if at this day God spake from heaven and published his Oracles from above as hee spake heretofore to the Fathers and Patriarchs before Mases we should not seeke for any other instruction But this is no more and God having fully imparted his will unto us by the writings of his Prophets and Apostles we are obliged to follow the meanes wherewith his goodnesse hath furnished us and it is necessary to bee bound and compelled thereunto I say the same of the Church in the Apostles time whil'st it was cleerely illuminated by the preaching and miracles of so renowned instruments of the holy Spirit who were instructed by God in all verity those people which were taught by their mouth made no great esteeme of their writings but God having inspired them to leave in writing the effect of his will wherein he had well tutered them and they having not left behinde them one person of like authority and knowledge
in ipsius pastoris vocibus in Euangelistarum praedictionibus loboribus hoc est in ãâã Caenoniâ is sanctorum librerum authoritatibus their Bishops and the beleefe of the people saith Such like matters being layd aside let them demonstrate and proue their Church if they be able not in discourses and rumors of Africans not by the Councells of their Bishops nor by the writings of such and such disputants nor by cheating signes and miracles for against those devices we are armed and prepared with the word of God but by the ordinances of the Law by the predictions of the Prophets by the Canticles of the Psalmes by the words of the Sheepheard himselfe by the preachings and paines taking of the Evangelists that is to say by all the Canonicall authorities of the holy Bookes But as concerning another difficulty proposed to wit that there was obscurity in the Scripture and that there was difference and disagreement touching the sense of the passages which were alledged hee doth not in manner of our adversaries who striue to make the Church infallible interpreter for in so doing one of the parties should be judge and the Church should not bee subject to any judgment but he averreth that leaving the obscure passages every one may make use of those that are plaine presupposing that what is said obscurely in one passage is cleerly manifested in others Assuring withall that there is no other way to avoyd doubtfulnesse and Cap. 4. Hoc etiam praedico atque propono vt quaeque aperta manifesta deliga mus quae si in S. Scripturis non inuentreÌtur nullo modo essent vnde aperireÌtur clauso illustraereÌtur obscura Lib. 2. de doct Chri. cap. 9. In his quae aperté posita sunt in Scriptura inveniuntur illa omnia quae continent fideÌ moresque vivendi difficulty I propose this saith he to the end we may chuse the passages that are most cleere and manifest the which being not found in the holy Scriptures there should be no further meanes to open things that are shut up and explaine the obscure For as he speaketh in another place In matters that are plainely set downe in the holy Scriptures are found all things that concerne the faith and good manners As Basil hath it in his Breviores Regulae at the 267. Answere The matter that seemeth to bee obscurely mentioned in some passages of the Scripture divinely inspired are interpreted by that which is more cleerly set downe in other places Hee in his third booke against Maximine Chap. 14. disputeth thus Sed nunc ânec ego Nicanum nec tu debes Ariminensa tanquaÌ pâaiudicaturus proferre Concilium Nec ego huius authoritatate nec tu illius detineris ScripturaruÌ authoritatibus non quoruÌcimquo propijs sed vtrique communibus testibus res cuÌ re causa cum causa ratio cuÌ ratione concertet against an Hereticke Now I ought not alledge the Nicene Councell nor thou the Ariminensian by way of prejudging I am not bound to the authority of that nor thou to the authority of this Let one thing be opposed to another one cause to another and one reason to another reason and this by authorities of the Scriptures which are not particular to such and such but are common witnesses to one and the other party Origen in his Homily upon Ieremie It is necessary that we bring the Necesse nobis est sanctas Scripturas in testimonium vocare SeÌsus quippe nostri enarrationes sine his testibus non habent fideÌ Bell. lib. de verbo Dei noÌ scripto cap. 11. sect 2. holy Scriptures to witnesse for without them our opinions and reports are not worthy to be beleeved Bellarmine answereth that Origen speaketh only of obscure questions concerning which he thinketh it behoovefull that they be taught by the Scripture But besides that the whole proceeding of Origen in this passage maketh the contrary to appeare the Cardinall deceiveth himselfe if hee thinke that the things easie to bee understood as that God hath created the world and that Iesus Christ is dead for us have not as much need of the authority of the Scripture as those that are obscure but on the contrary it is not necessary to penetrate into the knowledge of many obscure things and God hath not deemed it requisite to satisfie curiosity therein Moreover Bellarmine speaking in that manner condemneth a great number of Traditions in the Romish Church which are most obscure as the Tradition of Limbus for the Fathers and that for little infants The Tradition that the Saints know our thoughts and behold all things in Gods face The Tradition of accidents without subject in the Eucharist The Tradition that the Virgine Mary is crowned Queene of heaven which are things wherein mans understanding is benummed all being full of uncertaine presumptions And it were most needfull to have the Scripture testifying for them if it bee so that in obscure things wee ought to bee taught by the holy Scripture Theod. lib. 1. Histor ca. 7. ãâã ãâã ãâã ãâã ãâã I will adde the opinion of the Emperour Constantine the great for a close who was the man in this world after the Apostles that did most good to the Christian Church Of him Theodoret reporteth that at the overture of the great Nicene Councell exhorting the 318. Bishops assembled to determine controversies hee speaketh in this manner The Evangelicall and Apostolicke bookes and the Oracles of the ancient Prophets instruct us plainely in our Beleefe concerning divine matters Wherefore all unfriendly contention being throwne to the ground let us draw the solving of doubts from the words divinely inspired This holy discourse displeaseth Bell lib. de verb. Dei nâ scripto cap. 11. §. tertio Eâat ConstaÌtinus magnus Imperator sed non magnus Ecclesiâ Doctor And rad lib. 2. Defens Fidei Trid. initio Non advertuÌt imprudentes hoâines tantuÌ Arianis qui Sâleuciâ convenerunt ist aÌ Constanâini ârationââ arrisâssâ Bellarmine for he saith That Constantine was a great Emperour but no great Doctor of the Church and that he understood not the secrets of religion And Andradius affirmeth that these words of Constantine pleased none but the hereticall Arians But who was he among the Ancients that ever blamed this Emperour for speaking so Yea doe not all the Historians magnifie his prudence and sage management of affaires in this Councell And verily this Councell hath followed his counsell and refuted not the Arians by other strength of Argument then by the holy Scripture It is evident by this passage that Constantine untill then had allowed no other instruction but by the holy Scriptures and that no man taught after the fashion of the Romish Church at this time wherein men begin with Tradition in saying that the authority of the Scripture is founded vpon the Tardition of the Church If then in matters necessary to salvation these Doctors for three or foure ages
after the Apostles did reject all Traditions not contained in the holy Scriptures much more and with stronger reason it standeth that after so many ages transacted there should be lesse probability of cause to make new additions For when shall there be any cessation of adding Bellarmine in his 3. chapter against Barkley perceiuing that the Popes power to depose Kings is destitute of all Testimony of antiquity Non rectâ dâ Ecclesia sentit qui nihil admittit nisi quod exprâssâ in vetârâ Ecclesia scriptuÌ aut factum âsse legit Quâsâ Ecclesia posterââris temporis auâ desiârit essâ Eclesia aut facultatâ non habuerit explicandi declarandi constituendi âtiam et iubândâ quâ ad fideÌ et mores Christianos pertinent saith that hee judgeth not soundly of the Church of Christ who admitteth nothing but what he readeth expressely to haue beene done or sayd in the ancient Church As if the Church of the latter time had either discontinued and left off to be a Church or had not the faculty of explicating or declaring constituting and ordaining matters which concerne the faith and manners of Christians Whence it followeth that the Church of Rome is not yet compleate and finished in her perfection seeing that precepts touching the faith and rule of moralitie may be added thereunto as indeed there are yet many that are hot in the forge and freshly hammered upon the anvile of avarice and ambition But this Cardinall ought to consider that seeing this Tradition touching the Popes power to depose Kings maketh the Pope King of Kings It is not just or reasonable that the Pope should be judge thereof nor that he should bee permitted without rendering accompt to any other person to introduce such Traditions without the word of God whereby to enveagle the temporall wealâh and to make himselfe the moâarch on earth By this very doctrine the Iesuite equalleth in authority the Romish Church of this time to the Church of the Apostles time Yet it is the Church of the Apostles time which regulateth the succeeding ages And those first Heraulds of grace in Iesus Christ are yet seated vpon the twelue thrones ludging the twelue Tribes of Israel From this source proceeded the Bull Exurge which is at the end of the last Lateran Councell placing this amongst the heresies of Luther when he sayd that It is not in the power of the Pope and Church of Rome to establish Articles of faith Hence also proceeded the remonstrance Syn Flor. Sess vlt. Romana Ecclâsiâ nâcessitatâ vrgente iurâ suo partâculâ illam ex filioque Symbâlâ appânere liâu âssâ which the councel of Florence published that the Church of Rome had just power to adde to the Creed CHAP. XXIIII How the Texts and Passages of the Fathers which our adversaries alledge for the unwritten Traditions ought to be understood SEeing that in matter of Christian faith and the points necessary to salvation the Fathers doe unanimiously cleaue to the sole word of God contained in the Holy Scriptures it were a strange thing if after this they should seeke to ground themselues upon Traditions and to surmise in matter of salvation another word unwritten Certainely the Doctors who should destroy that which they have built vp ought not to be beleeved by no meanes should they bee credited who credit not themselues Now for the better purging of Three sorts of good Traditions them from this blame it would be necessary to remember that which wee have formerly spoken to wit that we reiect not all sorts of Traditions for the Scripture it selfe is a Tradition which is one reason A second is because there are Traditions which are not matters of Faith nor necessary to salvation but customes and reglements touching Ecclesiasticall policy which wee willingly approove when wee see that they have beene receiued in the auncient Church by a generall consent And Satan having alienated any one of these customes and turned it to Idolatry or converted it to any other end unpractised before wee doe not beleeue that in deserting such a custome Christian Religion is a whit impaired but it were wisely done to barge up that gate against the devill A third is because there are also Doctrines taught in the Scripture which are there not found in the same termes as the Ancients propose them but are therein found in equivalent words or are deduced from thence by necessary consequence If any man will call these doctrines Traditions wee will not quarrell him thereupon provided that he allow such Traditions to be bottomed with the Scripture and there to be found in substance I say then as often as the Fathers mention and give way to Traditions their meaning is of those three sorts afore recited that is to say either of the Scripture it selfe or of customes and reglements of Ecclesiasticall policy and of matters not necessary to salvation or of occurrences contained in the Scripture yet not there found in the same words as the auncients propose them but in substance and ây consequence to proove the which wee have employed the Chapter following CHAP. XXV A proofe of that which went before SOme doe object Irenaeus unto us who wrote abou the end of the second age that in his 3. book 4. chap. disputing against Hereticks that gave no admission to the Scriptures laboureth to convince them by Traditions that is to say as he expoundeth himselfe by the succession of the doctrine left from hand to hand in the Churches erected by the Apostles What Quid auseÌ si neque Apostoli Scripturas quidem reliquissent nobis nonne oporteret ordinem sequi traditionis quam tradiderant ââs quibus coÌmittehant Ecclesias saith he If the Apostles had not left us the Scriptures would it not have beene needfull to follow the order of Tradition which they delivered to those unto whose trust they committed the Churches And to good purpose he sayd it for if wee had not the holy Scriptures wee should have been constrayned to have recourse vnto weaker meanes and of lesse certainty And it behooveth that when he speaketh in that manner it bee to such as are refractary and averse from the Scriptures but not to vs who cordially embrace them and set up our last rest upon them Moreover from the time of Irenaeas the succession was but short and the memory of things taught by the mouth of the Apostles fresh of the which the remembrance would bee razed and put out if we had not the writings of the Apostles For the continuation of time and the subversion corruption and schisme of so many Churches which then unamimously concurred and are now at variance boasting of their succession maketh this search and examination impossible to the Christian people and full of uncertainty But at length what are these doctrines which Irenâus would have to bee taught and learned by Tradition if we had not the Scripture Is it invocation of Saints service of Images adoration of Relickes the
Communion under one kind or the Romish Indulgences no such matter it is the doctrine touching the Creation and touching the nature and office of Iesus Christ contained most cleerely in the Scripture which appeareth not only for that heerein hee skirmisheth and contendeth against the Hereticks erring in these poynts but also in that he sayth that wee ought to seeke these things by Tradition if wee have not the Scriptures acknowledging that these things are taught by the Scriptures Assuredly Irenaeus by Tradition intendeth not to speake of any addition to the Scripture but hee speaketh of the succession from hand to hand whereby the doctrine of the Gospell was trayned on to his time and in this very place speaking of certaine barbarous people that had received the Gospell by Tradition without Scripture he interpreteth the articles of this Tradition which are the articles of the Apostles Creed Also it is not amisse to have the Reader advertised that Irenaeus in these same bookes which hee hath written against the Hereticks treateth concerning Traditions not contained in the holy Scriptures which the Church of Rome approoveth not Hee teacheth that Soules separated from the bodies have Iren. lib. 2. cap. 62. Plonipimi Dominus ãâã animas charactereÌ corporis in que etiam adaptentur custodire cundem Et cap. 63. Per hac manifestissime declaratuÌ est et perseverare animas et noÌ de corpore in corpus transire et habere hominis figuram Iren. lib. 5. cap. 5. lib. 5. cap. 31. Iren. lib. 4. cap. 30. Iren. lib. 5. cap. 33. 34 35. feet and hands and a corporall figure He holdeth that the Soules issuing out of the bodies mâuut not vp to Câlestiall glory but into a terrestriall Paradise And that Before the publication of the Law no Law was given to the Fathers because they were just and the Law was not ordained for the just who had no need to be admonished by written letters But when justice was lost in Aegypt then God gave his Law unto the people The same Father teacheth that the kingdome of Iesus Christ ought to endure no longer then one thousand yeeres which is an errour of the Chiliasts and that they shall then feast themselves with delicate Wines and exqusite Viands So litle certainety there is in men as soone as they start aside from the sacred Scripture With what conscience can our adversaries Iren. lib. 2. cap. 57. Ecclesia non invocationibus Angelicts faciens aliquid sed ââuÌdè purè manifestè ârationes dirigens ad Deminum c. alledge Irenaeus in the behalfe of Traditions seeing his are so distastfull to them Hee also condemneth Invocation of Angels and the hautinesse of Victor Bishop of Rome as Eusebius recordeth it in the 5. booke of his history chap. 25. They serve also their turnes upon the testimony of Clemens Alex to backe their Traditions Euseb in the 6. book of his Ecclesiastical history chap. 11. remembreth onâ passage of him where he reportetâ ãâã ãâã ãâã ãâã ãâã that his brothers importuned him to teach them the Traditions which he had heard by the ancien Priests But he maketh no mention whether these Traditions werâ matters not contained in the Scriptures Now the Reader may herâ note upon what groundworke Papisme is buâlt our adversaries to shoulder it up doe scrape together the most excrementall scumme of the Fathers like to the carraine-Crowes that forsake trees beautified with delicious fruit to cast themselves downe upon noy some carcasses Observe this Clement full fraught with his idle and extravagant Traditions fitting to his purpose this passage of the 1. to the Strem. lib. 5. Corinthians Wee declare Wisedome among the perfect as our adversaries Clem. Alex. Serom. lib. 1. pag. 137. ãâã ãâã ãâã ãâã ãâã PLurima eiusimodi habeÌt lib. 1. Strom. pag. 121. seq eait Comeli mana et li. 6 Idem lib. 2. StroÌ pa. 173. ãâã ãâã ãâã ãâã ãâã Strom. lib. 3. pag. 193. Strom. lib. 4. pag. 217. Strom. lib. 5. pag. 252. Strom. lib. 6. pag. 270. doe in like manner Listen then to his Traditions Hee holdeth that the Greeks that is to say the Pagans were justified and saved by Phylosophy That there are foure persons in God That the Angels are fallen from their purity by their cohaâitation with Women That the death of Iesus Christ did not come to passe by the will of God That afflictions doe not seize upon us through Gods will and command but that he no way hindereth it and by his simple permission That God is a body That the Apostle Saint Paul exhorted the Christians to read the bookes of the Grecians of the Sybills and of Hystaspes That Christ had foretold to the Iewes which should be converted that their sinnes should bee pardoned them within two yeeres That Christ hath preached to the Iewes which were in hell and that the Apostles also descended into hell to preach to the Gentiles to worke their conversion And in the same sixt booke of his Stromata speaking of a sage or wise man in this present life saith he is not subject to any passion or alteration and that hee is without Strom. lib 6. pag. 276. ãâã ãâã ãâã ãâã ãâã joy or feare or confidence to be short hee maketh him a God in the shape of man and calleth such a man a Gnosticke and will have him to bee skilled in Musicke and in the Mathematicks in Logicke and Astronomy Hee affirmeth that God Strem. lib. 6. pag. 284 hath given the Sunne and Moone to the Pagans to worship them to the end they might not bee without a Religion And speaketh of gods in the plurall as if there were many of them Are these the Traditions which our adversaries obtrude upon us to proove the insufficiency of the Scripture or if these displease them why doe they relye vpon the authority of one that relye coyneth Traditions whereof the memory should be buried for everlasting At the same time Tertullian wrote his booke de Militis Corona In the 2. chap. of the same booke hee fileth up a long list of unwritten Traditions which are that in Baptisme the Christians of his time renounced the Divell and his pompe and his Angels that they were plunged three times into the water that they tasted the miscelane or hotchpot of milke and hony that they made conscience of washing themselves seven dayes after that they participated of the Sacrament of the Eucharist in the assemblies made before day and would not receive it from any hand but of those that did preside that they made offerings so they called the gifts which the people did present for the defunct upon the day of the Nativity one day every yeere By the day of Nativity hee understandeth that day whereon the memory of Martyrs was yeerely celebrated as also whereon Offâings were made and Almes given in memory of them Further more hee addeth the Tradiâion wherein they accompt it a foule
were not Basils owne For saith hee the Authour of these questions seeâes unwilling Bellar de Amis grat lib. 1. cap. 13 §. Respondeo to admit of unwritten Traditions But Cardinall Baronius affirmeth that To call this into suspicion or Baron annal tâm 3. anno 361. § 52. Hâc in dubiââ revâcasse summa stultitiâ sit doubt is a notorious sottishnesse And maintaineth these bookes to bee Basils as it is manifested by the stile Saint Hierome in his Catalogue and Phâtius in his Bibliotheca put the Aschetickes amongst the Workes of Basil Yea more Gennadius composed Homilies out of pieces of Basils Workes compacted together amongst the which many were taken out of Ascheticks Wherefoer the conjecture of Erasmus is not improbable who made a preface upon Basils booke de Sanct. Spiritu Wherein hee professeth that having translated this booke to the halfe way he perceiued the phrase to alter and to be no more of the same authors for hee could discerne a palpable other vain Moreover though Bellarmine had something wherewith to defame and disgrace this piece of Ascheticks yet could hee cast no aspersion upon his Treatise of the true Faith where Basil affirmeth that it is a manifest revolt from the Faith and a brand of pride and presumption to reject any thing that is written or to introduce any thing which is not written Iesus Christ having sayd My sheepe heare my voyce Nor any upon that place ãâã ãâã ãâã ãâã ãâã where Basil speaketh to Eustachius the Physician in his 80. Epist If faith hee custome bee of force for proofe of doctrine it shall bee lawfull for us in this to immitate them Let us then sticke to the arbitration and award of the Scripture inspired by God and hold the free suffrage voice of the truth to be on their sides whose doctrines shall bee found concurring with the divine words Neuerthelesse let vs consider what benefit our adversaries can derive from this passage about the which they make so much bruit and clamour In the first place Basil maketh a recitall of Traditions which he affirmeth to bee of equall authority with the Scripture yet amongst them there are many not approoved by the Church of Rome as prayer towards the East and making conscience to kneele on the Lords day and from the Paschal to Pentecost Most especially it displeaseth our adversaries that Basil in the Eucharist putteth the consecration in the prayer or in the invocation that is to say in speaking to God not in the bread If they beleeve Basil why doe they reject his Tradititions or if they beleeve him not why will they oblige us to beleeve him In the second place all these unwritten Traditions except the last numbred by the Authour of that booke are but ceremonies and lawes of Ecclesiasticall policy not necessary to salvation but subject to mutability and such as consequently make nothing to the purpose For our dispute is not of Traditions that concerne not the Faith and Christian doctrine but of those that concerne the doctrine of salvation not contained in holy Scripture Yet I cannot dissemble that the author of this booke be he Basil or whatere he bee isgreatly mistaken in his not onely equaling but also preferring both in height of dignitie and profoundnesse of mystery certaine petty ceremonies before the Sacred doctrine of our redemption contained in the Gospel Can any man without unsufferable injury not to use a more rigide exclamation equall ye preferre the Customes of standing at prayer on certaine dayes rather then kneeling Of praying towards the East rather then towards the West And of giving a benediction to the water or oyle before the doctrine of the incarnation of the Sonne of God the benefit of this death the justification by Faith the election eternall and the internall seale of the Spirit of God Can any man without impiety change any part or particle of these doctrines But as for those ceremonies they have suffered alteration and the Romish Church it selfe hath disparaged and debased them You see how preposterous and grosse our adversaries are who instead of covering the faults of those graue Fathers doe arme themselues with their drosse and refuse as birds that liue on nothing else but caterpillers And touching the last unwritten Tradition which is that men ought to beleeve in God the Father and in Iesus Christ his Son in the holy Ghost Is it possible that Basil where doe shine so many vertues and perfections never saw this in the Scripture For Iesus Christ saith at the 14. of Saint Iohn You beleeve in God beleeue also in me And in the 5. chap. 23. To the end that all men should honour the Sonne even as they honour the Father And as touching the holy Ghost how oft times is hee called God therefore when the Scripture biddeth to beleeue in God it coÌmandeth to beleeve in the holy Spirit Now to excuse Basil we must say that hee calleth Traditions the doctrines that are not found in the Scripture in expresse words but are there in ubstance and in equivalent words And wee doe willingly entertaine such kind of Traditions Only hee is mistaken to have entermingled this high and divine Tradition amongst Customes and Ceremonies indifferent in their nature as things equally necessary and which ought to be regarded with like duty and reverence These words of Saint Hierome in an Epistle to Marcella are alleged Nos vnam quadragesimaÌ ex Apostolica traditione tempore nobis âongrue ieiunamus unto us Wee fast one terme of 40. dayes at the time that wee thinke meete according to the Apostolicall Tradition This is but a ceremony and not a doctrine of the Christian Faith and we have elsewhere shewed that in the ages Au liââe de la Nouveaté du Papisme liure 7 en la 5. Conrroversâ chap. 6. 7. neerest approching to the Apostles the Christian Church fasted but forty houres And that this fast was arbirtary and diversly practised The same Hierome against the Luciferians makes the Hereticke speake thus Knowest thou not that it is the custome of the Churches to impose hands vpon those who are baptized and so to invoke the holy Ghost Doest thou aske me where this is written I answere in the Actes of the Apostles And if there could not bee found authority of Scripture for it the custome generally observed in this point should serue instead of a commandement for many other things in like manner which are kept in use by Tradition in the Churches haue usurped the authority of the written Law as in baptisme to plunge the head three times and beeing come foorth of the washing place âo taste the conjunction of milke and hony for a signification of infancy not to pray kneeling nor to fast upon our Lords day and through out the whole Quinquagesima or fifty dayes with many other unwritten things which mens indifferent observation doth challânge to it selfe Such is the language of the
universall Councels most ancient of greatest authority and which Pope Gregory the first equalleth to the foure Evangelists Pope Gelasius speakes the same for in his Tome of the Bond of an Anathema disputing against one of the foure first Councells to wit against that of Chalcedon where there were sixe hundred and thirty Bishops he urgeth thus The Apostolicall Seat alone dissanulleth that which a Synodall Assembly Quod refutauit sedes Apostolica habere non potuit firmitatem sola rescindâ qd prater ordineÌ congregatio Synodica pisâ taverit vsurpandum though to haue vsurped against order The subject of his choler against this so famous and honourable assembly was for that in this Councell is framed a Canon ordaining that the Bishop of Constantinople should be equall to the Bishop of Rome in all things and that hee should haue the same preheminences CHAP. XI Of what sort how weake and how vncertaine the foundations are wheron Traditions of the Romish Church are built and of the three maximes that serue for their defence and prop. THe Traditions of the Church of Rome are of so great a number that a meere Catalogue of them would furnish out a large volume The whole rabble of them hath these three maximes for their foundation 1. That the Pope is Successor to St. Peter in the charge of Head of the universall Church 2. Secondly that the Pope cannot erre in the faith 3. That the Apostles haue not set downe in writing all that they did teach by word of mouth Hee that will comprehend the nature of these maximes shall know that they evert the Christian faith and consume all Religion into smoke for if the Maximes wheron all Papistry is founded and all the body of Romish Traditions bee imaginary maximes and purely humane not to giue a worse phrase it is impossible that the Religion which is built thereupon can haue the least tittle of assurance 1. The first maxime that layeth downe the Pope to bee Saint Peters Successor in the charge of Head of the vniversall Church is destitute of all testimony of Gods Word and our Adversaries to vphold it produce nothing but humane testimonies Whence it followeth that it is not an Article of the Christian Faith and that it cannot be beleeved for a certaintie of faith for the Christian faith is grounded upon the Word of God Faith commeth by âearing and hearing by the Word of God Rom. 10. 17. But the Church of Rome giveth his maxime not onely for an Arâcle of Faith but also for a founâation of all the other Articles of âaith and of the whole Religion For in the Church of Rome the Popes authoritie is planted to be a Foundation of the Church and of all the doctrine of salvation to the very subjecting of the Scripture that is to say the word of God to his authoritie and to cause that the authoritie of the Scripture depend vpon the opinion of the Church of Rome and all this by vertue of that pretended Succession to St. Peter Briefly our Adversaries make all Christian Religion to hang vpon this poynt as Bellarmine acknowledgeth at the entrance of the Preface in his Books of the Pope speaking thus To say in a word when mention is made of the Etenim de qua re agitur cum de primatu Pontificis agitur breutssime dicam de summa rei christianae ââ entâ quaeritur aebeatne Ecelesia diutius consistere an vero dissolui concidere Observ andic est tertia licet force no sit de âure diuno RomanisÌ PontificeÌ ut Romanum Pentificem Petro succecere tamen ââ ad fidem Catholicam pertinere NoÌ enim est idem alsquid esse de fide et esse de ture divine Nec enim de oure divine fuit ââ Paulus hâberet penulaÌ est tamen âââ ipsum de fide ãâã ãâã penulam Etsi autem Romanum Pontificem sucâedere Petro noÌ habeatur expresse in scripturis c. Popes supremacy the summe of all Christianitie is at stake for the question is whether the Church ought to subsist any longer or whether it must bee dissolved and fall Thereunto doe all the Controversies referre and all the Traditions ayme at the profit and greatnesse of the Pope yet the same Cardinall at the 12. chap. of the second Booke of the Pope acknowledgeth that the Scripture maketh no mention of the Popes succession in the place of Saint Peter and that this poyut is not jure divino Neverthelesse hee affiemeth that this succession though it bee not jure divino leaueth not to appertaine to the Catholick faith In the same manner as the Catholicke faith beleeueth that Saint Paul had a Friers weed though that were not jure divine and that God had not commanded any thing to that purpose Hence it is manifest that all the diuine doctrine is founded vpon a plaine humane Tradition to weet a Tradition vnwritten That God hath ordained the Pope of Rome for Successour in the Primacy of Saint Peter Thus you see Tradition grounded vpon tradition that is vpon it selfe and this infinite Masse of traditions is founded vpon a Traditions that is no more jure diuino then Saint Pauls weed whereof never was any diuine Testimony extant I will not at this time enter into proofes of the falsity of this matter which wee haue handled in diuers places especially in my booke that went before and shewed the vntruths by aboundance of reason and authority drawne from antiquity I say but this that the ancient Bishops of Rome were called Successours of Saint Peter in the Bishopricke only of the Citie of Rome but not in the Apostleship nor in the goverment of the vniuersall Church Iust as the Bishops of Ierusalem were called Successors of Saint Iames and those of Antioch of Saint Peter and those of Ephesus of Saint Paul and of Saint Iohn not in the Apostl ship but in the Bishopricke of thâ townes wherein these Apostles had planted the Church Our adversaries produce not any example or passage of the ancient Church whereby it may appeare that ever the Bishops of Rome attributed any authority to themselues over the Churches that are out of the Romane Empire I say also that when the Bishop of Rome was heretofoâe Successor to Saint Peter in place of head of the Church so it was that the heresies which infected this seat as our adversaries themselues doe confesse and the Popes complaine of it and the Schismes which haue rent it there hauing beene two Popes at once sometimes three at the same instant prosecuting one the other to extremity and calling one the other Antichrist did long since breake the chaine of this succession In which Schismes ordinarily the most vicious and most cunning caried it and hee excluded his adversary who had the favour of those Emperours and Kings on whom the fortune of warre did smile This continued straine of succession not being possibly knowen but by the multitude of Histories and Authors both