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A97184 A vindication of the English Catholiks from the pretended conspiracy against the life, and government of His Sacred Maiesty discovering the cheif lyes & contradictions contained in the narratiue of Titus Oates. The 2. edition with some additions: & an answer to two pamplets printed in defence of the narrative. Jtem a relation of some of Bedlows pranks in Spain, & Oate's letter concerning him. Warner, John, 1628-1692. 1681 (1681) Wing W912C; ESTC R229731 86,710 95

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by your following discourse The cheife end work of all supreme Powers being to suppresse Vice encourage Virtu which is don by banishing all Vicious Liuers such as the D. Of York from their Presence Conuerse aduancing the Virtuous such as your self D. Tonge in their stead By the neglect of which principal part of their Royal Trust Office Princes DEPOSE themselues as VSELESSE before God their own conscience what euer may be their state and Glory in fact by humane laws Power before men Before you raysed yourself from the condition of a Priuate man to that of a King now you lay a Principle to bring any King to the quality of a Priuate man by making his Royal Authority depend on a Condition morally impossible for such is that of banishing all Vicious Liuers who in all states are the greatest though not the best part of the whole aduancing the Virtuous in their stead Seditious Doctrine Wherefore I leaue it to Authority to be abolisht by Publick Fire J pray God your study Prayers for the long life of his Maejesty the Peace Felicity of his People be sincere I know none who haue endangered the losse of those Blessings more then your self by your Lyes which I now Will begin to discouer hauing sincerely wisht that you may truly Repent make due satisfaction as in conscience you are bound J. P. p. 17. says nothing to this not knowing I suppose how to excuse ehter the Parliament of 1642. at which I hint or Mr. Oates's words from Treason Anonimus is content p. 14. 15. to transcribe Oates's words leaue them to shift for themselues I think they tooke the wisest course Though not the honestest for they finding the words presumptuous aboue excuse euidently treasonable they should sincerely haue acknowledged soe much CHAPTER II. Two vntruths in the addresse to Reader TO tell vntruths seemes as natural to you as breathing Nothing come from you without them which this Preface shews For you say It the Narratiue was presented to his Majesty the thirteenth of August last This is fals for it containes things which as you say hapned on the 3.4.6.7 8 of September following as may be seen from § 76. to 81. inclusiuè J. P. p 17. thinks he hath squared this circle by saying the deponent presented it priuately and vndiscouered till the 8. or 9. of September But did his remaining vndiscouered inspire him with a Prophetick spirit to fore see on or before the 13. of August what would happen neer a month after Here is the difficulty to which his being or not being vndiscouered signifyes no more then wearing a grey or black sute of Clothes Againe It was sworn vpon Oath on the sixth of September following before Sir Edmund Bury Godfrey by your self Another vntruth for page 62 your self sit Edm. B. Godfrey assure it was sworn on the twentith seuen of September J. P. ibidem This is false the date signifyes only that it was sworn not that it was sworn that day One of vs two here must be guilty of speaking an vntruth known to be such Let vs recur to the book pag. 62. Titus Oates Clerck maketh oath witnesse his hand the 27. day of September 1678 Titus Oates September 17. 1678. sworn before me Edm. B. Godfrey That maketh in the present tense deserues to be taken notice of which is enough to decide the cause You see what pittifull shifts the good man is put to to delude his Reader Being conscious of his bad cause he imitates Orators in a bad cause who as Cicero says recurre to clamours as lame men to horses Here is a prodigious yelping bawling says he beyond all the yells dins of Green Hastings Maccha rel The lesuits are a packe of knaues that must be looked after The vindicator a great knaue a pittifull idle inconsiderate both foole knaue not worthy to hold a chamber pot to Mr. Oates or to feede swine I beleiue the impartial Reader will think you worthy to be put to ether of these two offices will be ready to recommend you to such a Preferment I hope you would giue more satisfaction to your self in ether then to your Reader in this Chapter Anonimus is not so furious To the first he pretends that the deponent plainly declares it was only part of it that was deliuered as is aboue specifyed Well sir let it be a part of that which was presented on the 13. of August still what I sayd was tru that this was presented on that day And indeed the Deponents words are cleere I here present thee with a short Narratiue It was presented to his Majesty the 13. of August last Now I aske whither that It imports the larger narratiue which he promises or this part If this part I haue my intent If the whole that whole containes this part so I haue againe my intent To the second vntruth he says that I should haue searcht other pamphlets in which I myght haue found that he swore the original on the sixth of September afterwards swore many copyes together But seing he names no Pamphlets where this deep secret is to be found I beleiue he had none Indeed he is lesse to blame then the Hector J. P. for he ownes he had nether means nor leisure to be rightly informed He myght haue then held his Tong rather then in matters of fact to shoot at rouers Yet he will retaliate score vp two vntruths on me as I did on Oates The first that himself the Deponent assures it was sworne 27. September When the Deponent says no such thing Ad paenam libri pag. 62. of the narratiue he says Titus Oates Clerk maketh Oath the 27. day of Septemb. 1678 The 2. that I refer to fol. 62 When if I had put on my specta les I should find it only the 60. folio And I desire him to put on his spectacles he will find it is as I cited not folio but page 62. So I am cleere from those vntruths they lye still at Mr. Oates's dore O but in your book it is otherwise say you You should haue don well to haue told vs whither you liue on this side of the Line or no that we myght with lesse trouble consult your book althô your confident aduancing of vntruths shews you liue in England where they abound flourish more then in all the world besides since they are watred with golden showres For my iustification it is enough that in my book it is as cited mine was printed by Parkhurst Cockerill by Oates's appointement By this your Reader may guesse what sincerity he is to expect from you in the following Narratiue of which he meetes so little in your Address to him Indeed your writings like the Cadmoean brood fyght against and ruin one another They arelike Chymeras which being composed of Contradictions one part destroys the Other I
produced in fauour of the pretended criminalls Those who disordred the court so as it could scarce heare for along time any thing relating to the case in hand Was there any Lord or any member of the Honourable house of Commons amongst those dis-orderly cruel savage Persons I doubt not but they did dislike condemn detest those barbarous proceedings of which disorders I discharge all honest civilized Englishmen by charging them only on the Rabble the skum of the Nation none else is capable of such inhumane actions where of we find no precedent in the civilized world it is not to be paralelled but by the brutish Cannibals in America who with such like howlings yawlings satiate their thirst of Revenge vpon their Captiue Enemyes He endeauours an answer to the rest of the Chapter but he shews so much of Newgate breeding so little of ciuil discourse or common sense that I shall only desire my Reader to compare both together vse his owne Reason to iudge betwixr vs. Indeed what need of answering these two reasons with which p. 39. He shews that Mr. Whitebreade then scarce able to stand on his legs could cane Oates for 1. S. Denis carryed his head aboue a league in his hand when it was cut off ergo Mr. Whitebreade thô neuer so weak could beat Oates 2. hewas able to stand at his trial in Iune with out the help of Aqua mirabilis when he was well recouered ergo he was not so weak in September when he was sicke in very great danger of Death Should I discourse so idly how would hee fill vp whole pages with those Billings gate elegancyes Sot Dunce Blockhead c. Anonimus from p. 30 to 34. in many words say iust nothing to the purpose He would faine assert Oates's hauing been at Madrid which the Managers of the cause against My Lord of Stafford are willing to let fall yet least they should seem to do nothing they proue that Oates was in S●ain at Valladolid Which no body euer denyed Sic magno conatu magnas nugas agunt My Lord of Stafford pressed afterwards as an Euident Perjury that story of Oates's being at Madrid seing Don Iohn of Austria his Patrones employed all their cunning to keep the leaky vessell from that rock where it would certainly suffer shipwrack Yet althô they could elude all that that Lord sayd they can neuer make the world forget that Oates had sworn he had been there had treated there with D. Iohn nor perswade any reasonable man that that is not false They declined the examining it as a precipice to his honour by which they tacifly owned a Periury thô they would not seem to acknowledg it CHAPTER IX Of the Commissions giuen to Noblemen NArrat p. 58. A list of such Noble-men Gentry as are in this Conspiracy whose names occur at present Lord Arundel of Wardour Lord Chancellour c Obseru Here is another Accusation with a blank left for any whom you shall here after design to ruin whom in due time you will call to mind Narrat All these had their Commissions or Patents stamped by the General of the Iesuits Ioannes Paulus d'Oliua Obseru How comes it that you hauing had the distribution of these Commissions as you sayd before the Parliament in seuerall tryals in this Narratiue p. 59. should not haue kept one at least of them to Conuince the world there is something tru How comes it about that not one of all these Noble men Gentlemen should know of their own Commission or of the Designe that not one Commission should be found by all these searches how happens it that you should not know the General of the Jesuits name nor seal as I haue sayd in the Preface If your Memory failed you in a matter so often occurring what credit doth it deserue in things which occurred but once And if you are foresworne in this who will beleiue you in the rest Let vs consider the probability of this story from the qualitys of the Persons who are sayd to haue giuen and receiued these Commissions You say a superiour of Religious men by his Patents makes a Chancelour the Secretarys of state the General subordinate Officers of the Army in fine disposes as Soueraign of all Offices Ciuil Military of the whole Kingdome An attempt not to be paralleled but by that of Lucifer to be like God All the world knows that the Authority of Religious Superiours as such euen in Catholick Countrys is confiued within the Walls of their Order reaches no persons but such as by their own Voluntary Act submit themselues to it That the General of the Iesuits hath no power ouer his own Religious longer then they continu such for if any of them be raysed by a superior Power to an Ecclesiasticall Dignity or dismist for their misde meanours his Autority reaches them not This being known to all who know any thing of the Catholick world who can imagin such a Superiour should on a suddain take vpon him Regal Authority dispose of all Temporall Dignitys Offices which is an Act of supreame Iurisdiction As for the Persons receiuing Commissions they are the English Catholick Nobility Gentry And althô many of them neuer dealt with Jesuits euen in spirituall things had little kindnesse for them further then they are obliged by being parts of the same mysticall Body the Church yet as you say all vnanimously submit to the vsurpation of that Religious man They all knew that their Ancestors of the same Principles of Religion to God Allegiance to their Prince had constantly refused to own any Temporall Authority in the Pope although grounded as was alleadged on the King 's free gift Yet now this same body of men is sayd to own a much greater Authority in one of the Pope's Vnder-Officers This strang Transaction is made nothing of or about it appeares but in your Narratiue Not one of them refuse to submit or at least demur not one disdain to become subiect to a Poor Religious Man Not one acknowledge the fault althô they were assured of their Pardon a good reward to boot That euen those who to free themselues from vexatious Prisons changed their Religion should be constant in denying the Plot the Commissions And which is more this thing so ridiculous so incredible so morally or euen Physically impossible is to be beleiued vpon the single word Oath of a man Faithlesse to God Honourlesse to men one who scarce euer spoke a tru Word who deserues no credit euen when he speakes probable things The Deuil was a Lyer from the beginning you from your cradle A Wise man hauing weyghed these motiues seriously althô he knew nothing of the particular Facts concluded that ether what Homer Ouid writ of their Gods Aesop of Beasts were no Fables or the English Conspiracy is a Fable Yet O Iust Iudment of Almighty God!
of this Iudgment but certainly it is not Rash J. P. p. 13. He will not repeate the traiterous words of his Majesty's sacred Person that is to say he ownes them all to be tru Answ You imitate Oates very perfectly drawing Treason out of the most innocent words Let mine be reade ouer againe see whither there be one sillable importing an approbation of those Treasonable expressions or owning that any English Catholicks were guilty of them which is another Calumnye I expressely deny that euer Papist Monk or Iesuit spoke them I say none but the seditious Rabble euen in the time of troubles when Rebellion was Paramount the King termed the Common Ennemy reported such things that it is dangerous to spreade such things when so many are ready to shake hands with their Allegiance that not to offend in the same nature I would nether in word nor writing mention them And candid Mr. Philips will thence infer that I owne them to be tru Yet I do not much wonder at it for hauing made scripture teach Treason it is not much you should make me speake it althô nothing be further from the tru meaning of both J. P. next giues vs a charge of what some did against Henry 3. Henry 4. in France That Claude Matthieu was called the Courier de la Ligue What is all this to the English Preists who were not borne then it may be they condemne it as much as any of the Ministry Dic jam postume de tribus Capellis speake to the businessein hand charge vs not with other mens faults of which we are not guilty confine your selfe to our Personall Actions or owne that in them you find not mater sufficient for our indightment Did I foresee these Obseruations would be offensiue to any in Authority need an Apology I would follow Cato's aduice suppresse them But I think no Authority concerned in it but that of Titus Oates The Lo●ds Spiritual Temporall in Parliament assembled ordred the Printing of it And we are so far from opposing that Order that we think our selues highly oblidged by it because by letting vs know what we are accused of with the Persons conspiring Time Place where when they Plotted c. we are enabled to vindicate our selues which was impossible whilest we heard nothing but the general Termes of Plot or Conspiracy Popish Nobility Gentry Preists Benedictins or Iesuits c. At the end of this Narratiue we find the name of one Magistrate sir E D M. B. Godfrey but he only attests that it was sworn before him which may be tru though the thing be fals in euery part Dr. Tonge Chr. Kirby are also subscribed as Witnesses to Oates's Oath no more Yet if my Intelligence deceiues me not they had a greater hand in all then I will speak at present J. P. p. 14. T is well enough for though this sentence be an Impudent reflection vpon the supreame Authority of England yet some compassion may be shewed to his pretended Blindnesse Answ This is vnconceuable that it should be well enough yet be an Impudent Reflection vpon the supreame Power Sir I examin Mr. Oates's Narratiue I see no other Approbation to it but that of the Parliament ordring its printing I do not examin the Trials nor censure the Iudges or Jurye I leaue them to God their consciences to see whither there was no hard mesure The Tru Narratiue was not produced against any of the Prisoners when some of them alleadged some points of it in their defence the thing was rejected as no record nor euidence How comes it now to be so sacred a thing when we attempt to answer it What law forbids a man accused of a hainous crime to vindicate his Innocency in the best manner he can Doth not the denying this much more odiously reflect on the Authority of the Nation then all we say can it be supposed that any Law obliges a man to owne a Guilt when in his Conscience he knows the contrary Name the Pagan the Turk the Iew the Tyrant who euer was offended that an Accused Person should endeauour to cleere himselfe Doe not all Prisoners at the Bar answer not Guilty And what Court thought its Authority concerned in such an Answer you speake in your addresse to the Lords Commons assembled in Parliament of the Infallibility of their Counsels granting to them what you deny to the whole Church● Nay you ow●e in them a greater Infallibility then Catholicks Diuines owne in Generall Councils for althô in matters of Doctrine we neuer question their Decrees yet in matters purely of fact such as these are the Church doth not exact an interiour assent whence some Catholicks haue excused from Heresy the Persons of Origen Theodoret not by questioning the malignity of the Doctrine charged on them but endeauouring to shew that they had not deliuered it Now you neuer saw neuer shall see me vindicate the Crimes charged on vs by Oates which I absolutely owne to be treasonable that whosoeuer is really guilty of them deserues to dye the Death but we only say that we are not Guilty of those crimes nay quite contrary that we detest them as much more sincerely I feare then Oates himself J hope his Majesty will not be displeased with harmlesse endeauours to vindicate Persons wrongfully accused I haue learnt of the Holy Ghost Prou. 16.12 that It is an abomination to Kings to commit wickednesse because their Throne is by Ryghteouness establisht And I intend only to cleer the Truth in this great debate to make way for Rychteous Iudgments that his Throne may be by them establisht not shaken by vnjust shedding of Innocent Bloud whose cry is loud in the eares of the Kings of Kings our Iust Mercifull God To him our daily Prayers are offred that the Bloud spilt vnder colour of this conspiracy but for what real intent God knows may like that of Christ call for Mercy not like that of Abel cry for Iustice or Reueng. J. P. 14. What is all this clamor for Only for putting to deserued Death a company of varlets vagabonds who deserued to haue beene hanged only for being within his Majesty's Dominions Answer If you hold all for varlets vagabonds who are forbidden by ciuill Powers the entry into some country so many those so venerable for sanctity will be such as will euen honour these otherwise infamous names Were not the Primitiue Christians such the Apostles Christ himself was he not forced to conceale himselfe fly vntill the time designed for his Passion the Redemption of of the world was come S. Paul Hebrew 11. hauing spoken of some who endured as Catholiks haue done mockings scornings bonds imprisonment that were stoned sawed asunder slaine with the sword of others that they wandred about in mountaines in deserts in Caues of the Earth Doth he conclude as you doe
The finger of God is heere It hath found credit Indeed our Nation or a great part of it hauing rejected many Diuine sauing Truths reuealed by the H. Ghost the spirit of Truth preacht by the Apostles the Doctors of Truth handed down to vs by the Church the Pillar of Truth deserues such blindness as to beleiue improbale Lyes suggested by the Deuil the Father of Lyes desiuered by you who are a faithfull Disciple of that Faithlesse master to whose instructions of Lying you haue always adhered in whose school you are such a Proficient that no hystory to my remembrance furnishs your equall Hear the Apostle Quia charitatem veritatis non receperunt vt salui fierent ideo mittet illis Deus operationem erroris vt credant MENDACIO Vt iudicentur omnes qui non crediderunt veritati sed consenserunt iniquitati Because they receiued not the loue of Truth that they myght be saued therefore God shall abandon them to the Working of Errour illusion so that they shall beleiue a LYE that all may bee Iudged damned who would not beleiue the Truth brt consented to this vnjustice 2. Thessal 2.10.11 Narrat p. 62. Titus Oates Clerk maketh Oath that the Information set down in these Papers containing 81. articles all written subscribed by his own hand are tru in the whole in euery particular thereof 7. September Titus Oates Obseru Here is a Periury not vnlike to Hobs's Leuiathan for he represents this as one Body composed of many thousands of Persons so is this one PERIURY Composed of many thousands of Periuryes You swear all you haue sayd is tru we know will prooue all is false You stand alone in asserting the Truth of this Oath we shew its falshood by many Witnesses To you lying Perjury is as familiar as eating or Breathing our Witnesses are of vnblemisht Reputation You story is incredible morally impossible ours euidently probable morally certain your Tale is euery day changed as being the Ofspring of your fancy hauing no substance but from it ours always the same as being grounded on reall Facts In fine all your Art though directed by some more Wise then your self seconded by Bedlow such fellows could neuer make out the Truth of any one materiall point questioned by vs nor the Falshood of any materiall point alleadged in our Defence So the lying spirit doth euidently discouer it selfe in your Narratiue the spirit of Truth is as cleerely seen in our Apology We suffer with Truth we suffer for Truth Truth will free vs Veritas Liberabit vos Ioan. 8.32 J P. 40. Not finding what to say to this Chapter is content to let it passe Yet he very wittily as he thinks retorts the Wise man's saying vpon me for says he there is some Truth in Homer's Aesops fables ergo there is some Truth in this Plot. What say you Courteous Reader to this Is this not a man who can draw oile out of a Pumice stone proue the snow is Black well J will grant them alike tru The truth in Homer's fables is that they are vntru storys of the Gods that of Oates's Narratiue is that they are vntru storys of God's seruants Those had all their Being from the Poet these had theirs from the Deponent those are sacrilegious vntruths of God these are a sacrilegious taking God to Witnesse Vntruths Jn Aesop's Fables vnder false storys of Beasts Birds are couched some Passions of men moral directions precepts these are wanting in the Narratiues vnder which is couched only Oates's ground lesse spyght to those who neuer did him any hurt an endlesse malice of the implacable enemys of the Catholick Church That Noble-man spoke a great truth who sayd We who haue no Religion are going to Persecute those who are thought to haue some Yet in Aesop there is one fable much like their proceeding with vs viz that a wolfe accused a Lamb of troubling the water with which he was to quench his Thirst And althô the Lamb replyed that could not be because the place where he drunk was much lower then that where the Wolfe was yet this play was ouer born the Lamb sentenced to Death worryed Anonimus tells we p. 35. I bewray my nest But he is very much mistaken I do only shew what he some factious spirits doe to the defiling of it Jf this be a fault Daniel was to blame who trauerst the sentence of the wicked Iudges past vpon chast Susanna Hester is vnexcusable in pleading the Innocency of her Nation after a solemne sentence had been pronounced against it by Assuerus All the Christians are to be condemned who assert the Innocency of Christ his Apostles notwithstanding their conuictions condemnations by the Supreme Magistrates of those times Are we returning to the Pagan superstition when Rapes thefts murthers Adulterys were consecrated when committed by those men whom the credulous vulgar adored as Gods Doth God Alm-contrary to scripture admit of any distinction of Persons Is not his Law Common to all And if it be broken by any how great soeuer may not he be minded of his Duty Nay is there not an obligation imposed on all Church men others to mind them of it with that Respect which is du to their calling was Nathan was Elias were the other Prophets blame worthy who admonisht Dauid Achab others Princes Preists People of their faults How shall we excuse S. Paul's second Chapter to the Romans our B. Sauiours rebukes of the Scribes Pharisys the writings of the Prophets Moyses in which are recorded the sins of the People of God Are all these foul birds that bewray their own nest Jf so which are the clean Where will these men's extrauagancyes end To what absurdityes will they lead their silly Disciples When they shall shew vs greater Authority then that of the Holy Scriptures greater precedents then those of Christ his Apostles the Prophets better rules of morality then those of God his Diuine spirit we will own our selues Guilty althô we are not so But not till then CHAPTER X. A word of Aduice to the Deponent I Haue followed you through all your wandrings with greater tediousnesse then may be imagined finding no entertainment all the way but euident vntruths infamous perjurys sometimes some insipid lests It hath been some labour to examin all the particular Facts you mention when Persons concerned are at so great a distance Yet I haue gone thorough all willingly for the publick satisfaction for a cleer conuiction of such as though there was some fire where there was so much smoke if still there are any such in the world I hope it may be for your own good too who by this discouery of so many shamefull Periuries being disabled to follow the trade of a Witnesse may be obliged to take to some more honest though lesse gainfull way of liuing This may be
a meanes to saue your soul for there is a Confusion which brings Grace Glory Ecclesiastici 4.25 the Psalmist Ps 82.16 Fill their Face with shame they will seek thee O Lord. J haue aduanced nothing materiall but what is certainly tru The cheifest points are attested by Witnesses of vnblemisht Reputation I now appeal to one who is vncorruptible your own Conscience which within you confirmes all I say sets before the eyes of your soul your guilt more liuely then any one can doe Jt is that which before you took on you publickely without any cause giuen by any Catholick the Person of an Informer when the first Idea of the many Lyes horrible Perjurys occurred to you forced you with signes of great anguish of mind to say No body knows what DISMAL THOUGHTS I haue had in that Chamber shewing that where you then lodged It was that which at the tryall of the fiue Iesuits made you ready to Faint howeuer with vnparalelled confidence you accuse vs before men Yet before God in your own hart that absolues vs finds you Guilty Or if it doth not if it ceases from that function or if you are so hardned as to be insensible of its remorse your condition is the more deplorable there being little or no hopes left of your saluation Should I say that some of your Accusations are of words spoken by your selfe charged on others who often reprehended you at last quite abandoned you for them I should say no more then your familiar discourse euen since this fit of Zeal for the safety of his Majesty's Sacred Person came vpon you will iustify as I am informed My Lord cheife Iustice told you in sir G. W. s. ttiall p. 56. You haue taken a great confidence I know not by what Authority to say any thing of any body This is a tru saying how long that Confidence so Publickly known will passe vnpunisht I cannot tell J am sure the Wise man sayd Qui inconsideratus est ad loquendum sentiet mala Prou. 13. 3 He that is inconsiderate in his language shall feel mischeife Here is one great Mischeife iustly to be feared hanging ouer your head Another that much more terrible is that of eternall Damnation iustly due to False Witnesses Murtherers Now that you are a False witnesse appeares by the foregoing discourse that you are a Murtherer is euident hauing murthred as many Persons as haue innocently suffred vpon your Depositions Thus S. Austin in Psal 63. Ille occidit vos ô Iudaei occidistis Vnde occidistis Gladio linguae Our Sauiour's blood was iustly charged on the Jews who killed him with their false Accusations as iustly are you charged with the murther of all those who haue as vniustly been accused by you condemned executed vpon your Accusation I haue related two sayings of yours at S. Omers One I shall either be a Iesuit or a Judas The other If I am not a Iesuit I shall be damned You haue verifyed the first most compleately in the syght of all the World are in a fayre probability to verify the second if by a sincere timely Repentance of these horrid Crying sins you do not preuent it Be not mistaken God is not to be mo●ked Gal. 6.7 and all the giddy rabble of London will not protect you from the stroke of his hand which neuer falls heauier then when it is most slow in striking th●n when the time allotted to appease his Wrath disarme his Iustice is spent in prouoking him treasuring vp vnto our selues Wrath against the day of W●ath Rom. 2.5 That you myght auoyd this greatest of Euils was the harty Prayer of Mr. White-bread his fellow sufferers at their Execution is dayly hartily prayed for by many suruiuing Iesuits And if this freindly admonition haply the last you will receiue in this Kind doth contribute any thing towards your reall Conuersion I shall think my Labour well spent haue my harts desire J. P. pag. 41. thinks he nicks home by saying Good Counsel ought to be without respect of Interest for the sole benefit of the Person to whom it is giuen But my Aduice is quite contrary Answer Suppose you should fall into the hands of a Hygh-way man who intends to Rob Kill you Would you not dissuade him from it if you could by shewing the Law of God forbidding Theft Murther And is not that Aduice good thô you be concerned in it But says he p. 42. the Parliament requires him to go on And so did the Sanedrin require of Iudas which hindred not Christ's reprehension Betrayest thou the son of Man with a Kisse Luc. 22.48 Should all the states in the World Rome with the English Parliament concurr in abetting Periury yet it will be good Aduice to disswade men from it minding the of them Commandment Thou shall not bear false Witnesse For althô in all indifferent matters where it is dubious whether the thing Commanded be a sin they ought to be obeyed yet where there euidently appeares an opposition to the Law of God we must with the Apostles conclude to obey God rather then men Act 5.29 And this no Parliament man can be displeased with vnlesse he condemnes the Primitiue Christians the Apostles renounce Christianity by erecting that Tribunal of a Parliament aboue that of God himself making the Commandements of God vayl to an Act of Parliament Anonimus p. 35. assures the world I beseech Oates to recant promising him in that case the easiest place in all Purgatory I desire my Reader to iudg of the sincerity of these men for in all my aduice there is no mention of Purgatory yet he puts it in different characters to make this Vntruth the more conspicuous Pag. 36. He says we are Felones de se ipso facto for not keeping priuate what we haue to say for our selues seing by publishing these things we capacitate our Aduersarys to hang vs. Which is a fayre acknowledgment that the faction aimes neither at Truth nor Iustice nor punishment of reall Traytors but at finding pretences to ruin the Catholicks whether Guilty or not Our publishing these things shews our confidence of their Truth For we desire no better then that they should be examined to that intent we spread them as much as we can And seing our Aduersarys haue neuer heen able to disproue any one point alleadged by vs in our Vindication nor to proue the Truth of any which we deny all impartiall men will conclude that Truth is on our side When we consider how vnwilling the Managers of the Accusation against My Lord of Stafford were that any mention should be made of of what past informer trials that they pretended to doubt whether Oates had euer Deposed his Being at Madrid or hauing seen Don Iohn to saue him from Periury they pretended there myght be o pittifull shift in that Court some other who