that there was an unlucky Equivocation in the case The Scripture saith he pag. 28. bids us to be subject to the Higher Powers it doth not bid us to be subject to the will of those who are in highest places But two or three specious words serv'd the turn this was chiefly to seduce the Kings own Friends if it were possible Those that had a Loyal Soul here was a bait for them you were fighting for to make the King great and glorious though 't was against his will and for his Authority against his Person and he was on your side in his Pelitical though not in his Personal capacity and so if they lov'd the King they might join with you and no doubt but those goodly pretences deluded then many a well-meaning Soul But then if people were not for the King to be sure they would be for the Lord and upon that account they might and they must join with you for you were fighting the Lords Battels warring for Sion against Babylon this was the grand cheat whereby the Nation was deluded Had the Parliament-Officers gone about and told the people that the King encroacht upon their Priviledges and acted against the Fundamental Laws of this Kingdom the generality of men was not so well read in the ancient Statutes and Charters of this Realm as to know whether it was so or no and so 't is likely they had been very slack in engaging in a doubtful general But you knew well enough that the people would right for God therefore you made him a party in the case and then called upon them to help the Lord against the Mighty to help to throw down Antichrist and to set up Christ and those that came to your call were rewarded besides the holy Plunder with good words flatteries high and lofty titles they were the Saints the Godly the Chosen the Lambs Followers and the precious Ones and so you made them active in their wickedness by making their deluded Consciences to warrant their accursed doings Though the way was besprinkled with bloud yet that the people might not be deterred from doing Gods work â— Palmer p. â—3 they were told that God had seen it good to bring Christ into the Kingdom that bloudy way and then who would be afraid of bloud-shedding upon such an account But this hath been sufficiently proved when I spoke of your cruelties and made it appear that the War was Religious and not Civil and that for the good of Souls you may do what you lift as well as the Pope Now I desire only to mention a few more of your juggling tricks and then I shall endeavour to say somewhat in defence of those Authorities I have cited out of your Books Mr. p. 1â— 13 Palmer resolves that grand Query How shall I know that the Parliaments Cause is Gods Cause and those that join with them more Gods people than on the other side in this manner Alas it is the plainest thing in the world look to the words of Christ John 10.5 and 44. My Sheep know my Voice c. Now do but consider which of the new-raised Forces come nearest to this Rule who is it that submits to the Word and Rule of God who set up the work of Reformation who is desirous to preserve the people of God Was not he an excellent Casuist to make your pretences and doings an argument to prove that your War against the King was just Much like him that said it is and hath been the design and practice of Jesus Christ to break all Kingdoms that oppose him Th. Good 16â—â— p. 1â— and oppress his Saints As much as to say that God pulled down the King because he opprest Christ and did not favour the Saints by which Rule the best cause is condemned if it be unsuccessful and well-fare the Turk and all the wicked as long as they prosper according to this we have seen before that Providence was your Guid and Captain it led you and did all things for you and so it came to pass that the worst of your doings were charged upon God Jehovah-Jireh pag. 65. The Prentices and Porters were stimulated and stirr'd up by Gods Providence thousands of them to petition the Parliament for speedy redress And Mr. Will. Jenkins in his Conscientious Queries and Submission to the then present Power 1651. useth only the Turkish Argument of good success to prove that the prosperous Rebels were to be obeyed as lawful Superiours and that by charging all that had been done upon God and Providence pag. 2. Whether the stupendious Providences of God manifested among us in the destruction of the late King and his Adherents in so many pitcht Battels and in this Nations universal forsaking of Charles Stuart and the total overthrow of him and his Army whether by these Providences God hath not plainly removed the Government from Charles Stuart and bestowed it upon others as ever he removed and bestowed any Government by any Providence in any Age Whether a refusal to yield Obedience and Subjection to this present Gouernment be not a refusal to acquiesce in the wise and righteous pleasure of God and a flat breach of the fifth Commandment Therefore he saith in his Humble Petition That he looks upon it as his duty to the then Authority to yield all active and cheerful Obedience in the Lord even for conscience sake as though their prosperous wickedness could give them a just title to their Usurpation Another would have it believed that the Saints were victorious Joh. Owen 1659. p. 22. because of Christ being with them and their having a Commission from him to act as they did saying That the Saints and the secret ones shall work destruction and that this feeble Generation shall be as a Lion from the presence of Christ amongst them Christ saith he assigns that to them which is his own proper work let men take heed how they provoke this Lion for then he will not lie down until he eat of the prey and drink of the bloud of the slain As though it had been by the order and power of Christ that the Lion or the wild Beasts had filled all the Nation with bloud and slaughter Then in stead of teaching the people to obey the Precepts of the Gospel Charity Humility Meekness Obedience to the King c. you would have them mind the secret intentions of God and set forward that work which his Providence had begun as you said which was called Generation-work a phrase and a Doctrine still in use amongst you It is the duty of the Saints saith one to observe what the way of God is in the time of their Generation Jer. Burr 1643. p. 2. to see what Name of God is most conspicuous in his administration and accordingly to sanctifie that Name of his Nothing can be more pregnant with delusions and evil consequences than this Afterwards when in the carrying on of the designs in hand the
meaning of Scripture and make themselves blind that they may be led by those that pretend to Infallibility and a supreme Authority in things of Faith As for the Decisions of your Popes and Councils it hath been observed by learned men of ours that they are also subject to mis-interpretation and that they have not been able so much as to compose any one of those Differences that have been and are still amongst you And indeed why should not God speak as plain as the Pope in what is absolutely necessary to be known Is it because he is not able or because he is not willing we should know the truth But Friend whilst you tax the Scripture with obscurity and make the people think 't is a dangerous Book see whether you do â—ot give the lie to God himself who saith Ps 19 7 8. The â—aw of the Lord is perfect converting the soul the Testimony of the Lord is sure making wise the simple according to Rome it should have been making the simple to err The Statutes of the Lord are right rejoycing the heart the commandment of the Lord is pure enlightning the eye not blinding or darkning the eye Psal 119 105. In another place Thy word is a lamp unto my feet and a light unto my path Could any thing be more express against the charge of obscurity 2 Cor. 4.3 4. And so S. Paul saith If our Gospel be hid it is hid to them that perish in whom the God of this world hath blinded the minds lest the light of the glorious Gospel of Christ who is the image of God should shine unto them It seems the Gospel hath a light that shines unto men and the devil endeavours to blind them that they may not see it and whether the Pope be not an useful instrument to that effect let them judge that are not yet quite blind Sure if there was so great a danger in reading the Scriptures God would not have commanded his people so absolutely to study his Law Christ would not have preached to the multitudes for his words might be misinterpreted as well spoken as written and the Apostles should not have directed their Epistles to all the people of Corinth Ephesus c. We should rather have been forbidden searching the Scriptures and sent to his Holiness to know what we must believe and do P. Sir you are tedious in your Reasons and Proofs and whereas I cite only one of our approved Doctors at a time and that in few words you bring me I don't know how many places of Scripture I had rather you would tell me what Luther or the Church of Geneva have resolv'd in these Controversies G. 'T would be to no purpose for we regard not their opinions nor those of any private men but as far as they agree with the truth Our Church is founded upon that Catholic and unchangeable truth which God hath revealed in the Sacred Books and which hath been and is still entertain'd by all those that own the Fundamentals of Christianity Therefore as I have told you 't will be the shortest way for me to back those Doctrins of our Church which oppose any of yours by the authority of Gods Revelations his most Holy Word which is a sufficient foundation for us to ground our faith upon P. As far as I can see you are run a great way off from us for we as many as own the Pope to be the Head and Monarch of the Church never mind what the Scripture saith we follow blind-fold the Judgment of our Church as a most infallible guide Bellar. de Rom. Pont. l. 4. c. â— We believe that neither the Pope nor the particular Church of Rome can err in things of Faith Non solum Pontifex Romanus non potest errare in fide sed neque Romana particularis Ecclesia No Sir take it from Bellarmin Bellar. de Eccles l. â— c. 14. It is absolutely impossible that the Church should err in any thing whether it be necessary or not Nostra est sententia Ecclesiam absolute non posse errare nec in rebus absolute necessariis nec in aliis G. And you Sir take it from experience that the Church of Rome could and hath greatly erred in many things if it be an error to make huge additions to the antient Creeds and to go directly against the Word of God And though it be impossible that ever the Universal Church should forsake and deny the saving truths of Christian Religion because of the Promise of Christ Matth. 16.18 Yet any one particular Church or Society of Christians though never so great may err and that in Fundamentals as we know of some Pseudo-Councils that have broach'd or confirm'd damnable Heresies And accordingly the Scripture saith Rom. 3.4 Let God be true and every man a liar the Bishop of Rome himself is not excepted And doubtless if the Church of Rome was infallible and the only guide that can lead us to heaven God who hath revealed to us the way to happiness would not have omitted so essential a thing But instead of a command wholly to rely on the judgment of the Pope speaking ex Cathedra we are commanded to prove all things 1 Thess 5 2â— 1 Joh. 4.1 and to hold fast that which is good and again to try the spirits whether they be of God because many false Prophets are come out into the world Now how shall we try them but by the Word of God and if we find you do not follow it why should we any longer follow you Find me as many Texts out of Gods Word to prove that your great Bishop is infallible and that we are all bound to believe every thing he saith as I have produc'd already for the Divine Authority of Scripture and its sufficiency to bring us unto Salvation and then we 'll weigh them together and my faith shall follow the heavier Scale But when we prove and demonstrate that you err and go directly against Scripture for you to come and say that it is impossible because you are infallible and free from all error is to my thinking a very odd and unsatisfactory answer P. Well if you talk of Scripture till to morrow I am sure ours is the Antient Catholic Church without the which there is no salvation But your Religion is a new upstart you cannot shew me where it was and the Professors of it two hundred years ago G. As for the Professors where they were and that there were many even in the highth of Popery is a long Historical labour but ready done to my hand by several learned men the Author of Catalogus testium Verit. Abbot Vsher Fox White c. They were in the Eastern and Greec Churches much larger than that of Rome they were amongst you some declar'd and marty'd for it some for peace sake living in the Communion of your Church and some conceled for fear of your cruelty sighing in secret for
England lay the cause of Christ and Religion to heart as this hath done Did ever the City of London the rest of the Tribes and the godly Party throughout the Land so willingly exhaust themselves that Christ might be set up And pag. 20. Let all England cry that our Bloud our Poverty c. are abundantly repaid in this that there is such a concurrence to set up the Lord Christ upon his Throne to be Lord and Christ over this our Israel And the best of it is that when you had nothing to say for the antiquity of your goodly Discipline and Directory you would make it a Diopetes a thing fallen from Heaven or like the Heathen Legislators receiv'd from God himself that it might be reverenc'd accordingly Ibid. p. 20 The same person told his Auditory Here you have a reverend Assembly of grave and learned Divines who daily wait upon the Angel in the Mount to receive from him the lively Oracles and the pattern of Gods house to present to you But that which you magnified most of all and which was as much your own contrivance as your belov'd Directory was the Covenant the blessed Covenant There is not a Text in Scripture that speaks of the Covenants God hath made with men at any time but it was applied to your own by your learned Preachers Scripture Sacraments none of Gods Ordinances was comparable to it it was so divine and so excellent Proofs are almost needless in a thing so well known yet I 'll bring two or three out of Mr. Case's Sermons on the Covenant upon this Text Th. Case p. 59. Levit. 26.25 A wonderful mercy a high favour may we count it from our God that yet such a sovereign means is left us for our recovery and reconciliation And then saith he pag. 61. How shall we escape if we neglect so great salvation Again pag. 19. There are found amongst us so many profane Ephramitish and Zabulonitish spirits that do contemptuously reject the Covenant of God And pag. 31. It was no small thing that poor Creatures should be married to the living God by the Covenant yea be one with him yea perfect in one What could you have said more except you had quite Deified it Now therefore in this business I see no more difference betwixt you and us than this that our Constitutions our Devices and our Ceremonies are more in number but acknowledged to be of Humane Institution whereas yours be fewer but of a Divine Origine as you say either from Scripture or some latter revelation but let the quality go for the quantity and we are agreed for 't is well known that you were as severe to those that would not conform and obey as ever was the Pope of Rome Pr. Now you put me in mind of it have any such thing as a Pope who pretends to be chosen by Gods Spirit and so acted by it that whatever he saith must be assented to as true he being altogether infallible Don't we rather reach That God only is free from all errour and ignorance but that no man enjoys that priviledge Pa. No you have no such thing as one only Pope but you have a great many for every Minister of yours pretends to the same Authority and the same Priviledges and I believe that 's the reason you hate him of Rome so much because he will have no fellows but reign all alone I know not how 't is amongst you now but heretofore the Reforming Parliament-men themselves were chosen by the Spirit as Mr. Case told them in a Sermon Tho. Case 1644. p. 9. Surely had not the Spirit of the Lord gone forth to a wonder of wisdom and power in bespeaking the Votes of the people for a major part of men whose spirits were above fears and above flatteries c. If Parliament-men much more Ministers but I need no inference the Spirit was poured upon you all in such a measure that all ranks of people were endued by it with Heroick nay even Angelick Vertues and Abilities or else Mr. Case was mistaken for thus he said Ibid. p. 28 As the Spirit of the Lord came upon Sampson and Jephtah and David so hath it been in our conflicts the Spirit of the Lord hath come upon our Noble General and all our Commanders the Spirit of the Lord hath come upon our Gallants Gentlemen Young men faithful Country-men renowned Citizens so that he that was weak among them is as David and he that was as David hath been as the Angel of the Lord. And you the teaching Elders you pray by the Spirit and you preach by the Spirit wherefore it is I suppose that you call your Sermons the Gospel and Gods Word and if long Prayers and Sermons be a sign of having much of the Spirit any of you may vie it with all the Popes of Rome put together Nay and to make the parallel compleat you pronounce Bulls and Fulminations by the Spirit too Wil Beech Serm. Licenc'd by Mr. Cramford 1645. p. 10. Tell them from the Holy Ghost saith Mr. Beech from the Word of Truth that their destruction shall be terrible it shall be timely it shall be total And 't is more than probable you would have made Canonical Scripture ere now had not the Kings Return somewhat frighted away that Spirit you were so possest withal But in this there is still some difference betwixt our Opinions for with us the Pope hath the greatest part of the Spirit if not all of it whereas your Ministers are all sharers of it Pr. Yet still for ought you have said it doth not appear that we pretend to Infallibility we don't arrogate to our selves the power of interpreting Scripture exclusively to all others and before we have declar'd what the sense of it is we don't call it as you do A Waxen Nose which may be turn'd all manner of ways and never right till we fix it our selves Pa. One thing after another pray we have done with the Spirit which is the cause of Infallibility we shall now come to the expounding of Scripture which is the effect of that cause And to give you your due I must needs say that you have done very much in this and if you will but go on as you have begun you 'll go near to perswade posterity that a body may expound Scripture out of a Scotch Pulpit as well as out of St. Peters Chair and a great deal better for besides the Doctrinal part beyond which Popes could never go Presbyterians expound Prophecies and make Prophecies too Pray hear some of them Jer. Bur. Serm. 1643. p. 7â— All the Saints in these days should be full of the Spirit strong in the might of the Lord because Jesus Christ is about to pull down that great Enemy of his that Man of Sin and in his Conquest is said to come with Garments dipt in Bloud Rev. 19. Do you think any man but he could have seen that this
Nation wallowing in Bloud was the fulfilling of that Prophecy Mr. Th. Goodwin who belike had seen the Pattern in the Mount being one of the Assembly made this remarkable discovery Th. Good Serm. to the Parl. 1645. p 47. 48 That it is certain we are now in the last times of those ten Kingdoms of Europe of which the Holy Ghost hath prophecied Rev. 17.14 These shall make War with the Lamb c. And where you see saith he that Jesus Christ hath took footing in any of these Kingdoms by such a way of conquest reforming as in ours it hath the second time for greater security stand that Kingdom shall till you see Rome down And yet as mischief would have it the King being restor'd to his right their second Reformation was turn'd out of doors before Rome would down But here is a Seer come from Edinburgh who perchance will have better luck In a Sermon before the Parliament after having cited many Scriptures relating to the time of Christs coming and particularly that Hag. 2.8 The Glory of this latter House c. he infers There are very good grounds to make us think that this Temple is not far off Geo. Gill. 1644. p. 18. and that Christ is to make a new face of a Church in this Kingdom a fair and beautiful Temple for his Glory to dwell in and he is even now about the work So famous Mr. Bond in the same Auditory expounding the Image in the second of Daniel Joh. Bond 1644. p. 18. We are come saith he to the toes of those feet the German Eagle is stript of her plumes Papacy drops her Prelatical Feathers continually so that both Scripture Chronology and common sence do evince that the Image doth stand at best but on tip-toes and the time is at hand and I conceive is present in which it shall be thrown down and utterly abolished Oh the mans modesty that he did not cry out 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 What a pity it is that such quick-sighted Seers have never applied themselves to writing of Opticks I 'll bring but one more but have a care of it for 't is one that can bite and sting if Mr. Coleman be to be believ'd T. Coleman 1645. p. 33. for he told the House of Commons There is a biting Prophecie Joel hath said it chap. 3. v. 19. Egypt shall be a desolation and Edom shall be a desolate wilderness c. Now saith he how to shelter them the Cavaliers from the sting thereof I know not Had not that man great skill in Prophecies that could tell that Egypt and Edom meant the Kings Party So much for that Now 't is to be considered that we call Scripture a Waxen Nose and so don't you Well! But what matters it for calling if you make it so de facto Shall we wrangle about names when we are agreed in the thing I dare lay my Nose against yours there was never a Waxen Nose so distorted and contorted as Scripture was by you I could produce so many proofs of it that I am sure you would be weary if not convinc'd before I had done but for your satisfaction here 's a few of them That place in Daniel In the days of those Kings shall the God of Heaven set up a Kingdom which shall never be destroyed c. and that of St. Matthew I say unto thee Thou art Peter and upon c. These places were brought to prove that the Presbyterians should overcome all their Enemies in a Sermon called T. Palmer 1644. p. 9. The Saints Support in these sad times Let secret Enemies seek to prolong let open Enemies plot prepare and watch God will discover the one disappoint the other and destroy them all Dan. 2.44 Mat. 16.18 And pag. 19. Saints cheer up your hearts ply God with your prayers you shall prevail blessed be God your Enemies have been on the decaying losing hand a pretty while they have in Scotland that you know they have lost in England that you know and they shall lose and lose till they have lost all as much as I have said you shall find in the Revelations in the 17 Chapter you have a large description of the Whore and all her Glory and Chapter 18. and the second Verse there is her destruction Was not that as pat as could be to prove what he intended So Mr. Calamy in a Sermon before the House of Commons speaking of those that would take Arms against the Parliament rather than the Government and Worship they had lived under should be destroyed Edw. Cal. 1645. p. 4. tells them My Text confutes this The times of this ignorance God winked at but now commands all men every where to repent Act. 17.30 Former times were times of ignorance and times wherein mens Consciences were opprest but now the times are times of Reformation God hath given greater liberty and hath sent a greater light in the Kingdom and now God commands all men every where to repent that is as you see to destroy that Worship and Government they lived under And in the forementioned Sermon of William Beech pag. 9. the 136 Psalm is applied to those Encounters wherein they had worsted the Kings Forces O give thanks unto the Lord for he is gracious and his mercy endureth for ever who remembred us at Knasby for his mercy endureth for ever who remembred us in Pembrock-shire for his mercy c. who remembred us at Leicester for his mercy c. who remembred us at Taunton for his mercy c. who remembred us at Bristol for his mercy c. but this by the way I could tell you also how you used Scripture to countenance your cruelty against the Loyal Party but you shall hear of it another time this is enough at present to shew how you have rack'd and abus'd it to make it countenance your wicked follies We call Scripture a Waxen Nose and you make it so I suppose out of kindness to us to make good what we say our Church interprets the Doctrinal part of Scripture and every one of you not only that but even the hardest Prophecies of it Pr. Well but as much Popes as you can make us we don't deny but that we are subject to Kings and Princes as not only your Pope but even your meanest Clergy doth we don't say that we can absolve Subjects from their Oath of Allegiance we don't pretend to have the right of disposing of the Good of all Christians and even of all the Kingdoms in the World in order to the good of souls as your great Bishop doth Pa. Why Do you think when the Pope was as yet weak and struggling for that Power he hath now got into his hands that he own'd any such Doctrines No I 'll warrant him And to my thinking you have shewn more courage than ever he did for you have assum'd that high Authority you speak of even when you were not altogether able to maintain
it by force though you ventured very fair for it but there are three or four things in what you said that must not be confounded And first That not only your Ministers but even your People also are not subject to the Laws of the Civil Magistrate except they approve of them which is as much as not at all will too manifestly appear by those famous or rather infamous Books of Rutherford and Prynne The falshood of M. Prynns Truths Triumph 1645. p. 30. p. 25. Lex Rex and The Sovereignty of Parliament Moreover we have it in plain terms That the general Assembly is subordinate to no Civil Judicature whatsoever in a Book called The readiness of the Scots advance into England And Mr. Dury told the Parliament in a Sermon Settle but the Judicatories of particular Congregations and let the Thrones of the whole House of David be crected and you shall find that the fruit of righteousness c. Isai 32.17 as much as to say Inthronize a Pope in every Parish and all will be well But secondly you are so far from being subject to the Laws of Princes that you will have them to be subject to yours This was one of the Propositions presented to the Assembly at Edinburgh Art 8. 1647. None that is within the Church ought to be without the reach of the Church Laws and excepted from Ecclesiastical censures but Discipline is to be exercised on all the members of the Church without respect or consideration of those adhering qualities which use to commend a man to other men All the Power the Pope claims over secular Princes is included in this one Article When once the Kirk hath decreed that any thing is Antichristian and must down or that some new device is according to the Pattern in the Mount and therefore must be establisht if the Magistrate dares to oppose it then cries the petty Pope Help ye the Lord against the Mighty as S. Marshall in a Sermon S. Marshal 1641. Curse ye Meroz for not helping the Lord against the Mighty Some Politicians saith he pag. 2. look which side shall prevail and stand Neuter but as Gideon said to the men of Succoth when they refused to give bread to the people Judg. 8.7 then will I tear your flesh with the thorns of the wilderness so I say to such if the Lord prevail he will do them Is it so indeed that they are cursed that help not the Lord against the Mighty Then Brethren as you desire to be freed from this curse and to obtain a blessing be exhorted to put forth your hand now to the help of the Lord. I pray look on me as one that comes among you this day to beat a Drum in your ears to see who will come out to follow the Lamb. Here was a Press-Master for the Synod Now here what Th. Tho. Good 1645. Goodwin said to the Parliament how that the Saints i. e. the Assembly and their Adherents must not be crost in their humour under pain of utter ruine after a long canting to shew that the greatest and highest Interest of Kings and Kingdoms on which their welfare or their ruine depends was the dealing well or ill with the Saints he gives these reasons for it 1. Their nearness and dearness to God 2. p. 40. The interest of the Saints in God the Governour and the priviledges which they themselves have vouchsafed them by God in ruling and governing this World p 42. and Providences of God therein And 3. the interest of Jesus Christ himself whose design and practise is and hath been to break all Kingdoms that do oppose him and oppress his Saints Here 's the Dickins and all I think for Papal Power But you must understand that all this was proved out of his Text Psal 105.14 He suffered no man to do them wrong yea he reproved Kings for their sakes Now Sir that your most Godly Party would make a pretty good title to the Goods of the wicked if they were in power Th. Palmer endeavour'd to clear when in the 15 and 16 pag. of his Sermon he made it his business to prove that wicked men who are out of Christ i. e. out of their favour have no proper right to the Creatures neither to the Sacraments and Ordinances nor to those Creatures that sustain life And then saith he pag. 17. when the Riches and Honours and Liberty given to the Saints and Gospel-times so long promised shall come then the wicked miseries of the wicked begin then shall their time of sorrow and sadness come in whereby he intimates that should once the Saints come to reign the Wicked would go near to be dealt with as Usurpers of what they possess as indeed many of them were when the Saints had power to plunder and sequester As for your absolving from Oaths I had rather charitably believe that you can do that too than judge you guilty of perjury for either of the two must be because many of your Ministers acted contrary to what they had sworn when they receiv'd Ordination or Institution from the Bishop that you won't deny And again they acted contrary to their Oath of Allegiance and made their people do so too and take an Oath contradictory to that your holy Covenant for though you pretended that it was to make the King happy and glorious yet 't was against your Allegiance being it was against his will and just Authority and besides that goodly pretence it self was an affronting his Majesty for you would make him to destroy the Church which by his Oath at least he was bound to preserve and maintain and you would have wrested his Regal Power out of his hand and left him only his Scepter to countenance you This is called Protestatio contraria facto when a man cuts anothers purse and swears that he doth him no wrong but whether you cut or untied the knot whereby you were bound to act otherwise than you did I leave it to your choice Pr. By and by I shall shew that your Citations signifie nothing but supposing they did yet that cannot prove what you intend them for because the Quarrel betwixt the King and the Parliament and the War that ensued thereon was upon a Civil account and if the people were in the wrong it was the Lawyers that mis-led them and not we But how many Holy Wars hath the Pope raised against Kings and Emperours meerly to establish or maintain that supreme Authority he claims over them This alone doth overthrow all you have said of your Papal Power Pa. Nay if you must have more proofs I 'll warrant you I can give you enough and therefore to confirm what I have said of your claiming a Pope-like Power I shall make it appear that it was you mis-led the people and made them rebel and that your War was a Holy War upon the account of Religion Mr. Leech tells his Auditors in a Sermon pag. Jer. Leech