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A56213 The substance of a speech made in the House of Commons by Wil. Prynn of Lincolns-Inn, Esquire, on Munday the fourth of December, 1648 touching the Kings answer to the propositions of both Houses upon the whole treaty, whether they were satisfactory, or not satisfactory : wherein the satisfactorinesse of the Kings answers to the propositions for settlement of a firm lasting peace, and future security of the subjects against all feared regall invasions and encroachments whatsoever is clearly demonstrated ... and that the armies remonstrance, Nov. 20, is a way to speedy and certain ruine ... / put into writing, and published by him at the importunate request of divers members, for the satisfaction of the whole kingdome, touching the Houses vote upon his debate. Prynne, William, 1600-1669. 1649 (1649) Wing P4093; ESTC R38011 126,097 147

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privie to all his Maj. secrets and transactions of publick concernment receive all letters of intelligence directed to him and most commonly return all Answers to them There is now but one thing more wanting to make this security compleat and firm the Kings Great Seals of England and Ireland the greatest Regall Assurance confirmation he can give you and of these you have both the custody and disposal having the nomination appointment both of the L. Chancellors L. Keepers and Commissioners of the Great Seal in England and Ireland To summe up all these Grants together Some Parliaments in former times have had the nomination of the Lord Chancellor some of the Lord Treasurer some of the great Iusticiar or some few Judges of England only But never any Parliament of England claimed or enjoyed the nomination and appointment of any the Great Officers Barons Iudges or Treasurers places in Ireland nor yet of the L. Warden of the Cinque-Ports Chancellors of the Exchequer and Dutcby Secretaries of State Master of the Rolls or Bar●ns of the Exchequer of England yet all these the King for peace sake hath parted with to us and shall we be yet so froward and peevish as not to be satisfied with all those Offices We have a long time mocked and abused the world with a self-denying Ordinance disabling any Member to retain or receive any Civill or Military Office by grant from the Houses whiles he continces a Member though there is scarce one day or week at least doth passe but we are still bestowing some place or Office upon Members for which we are weekly censured and reviled in printed Pamphlets and become odious to the Kingdome But here is a self-denying Act and Ordinance in good earnest in the King in parting with so many Offices of which He and his Predecessors have had the sole disposall for some Ages without interruption to the Houses shal we not yet rest satisfied If not what will the whole Kingdome what will all forraign Kingdoms and Nations report of us but that we are so foolish so unreasonable that nothing can or will content us because we are resolved not to be content with any thing that the King shall grant us be it never so advantagious for our present or future safety and settlement But seeing we have the disposall of all these Officers in England and Ireland both Military and Civill of his Sword of War and Peace his Justice his Conscience his Purse his Treasury his Papers his publick Records his Cabinet his Great Seal more then ever we at first expected or desired I must really for my owne part professe my selfe abundantly satisfied with these Concessions and so must every one who hath so much judgement as to understand the latitude consequences of them for the whole Kingdomes and dying Irelands safety settlement especially at this season when they are so neer their ruin To this I shall adde another grant of great concernment for the Peace and safety of this Nation which the King hath fully consented to in this Treaty and I presume no Member of this House will rest unsatisfied therewith when he fully understands it Both Houses of Parliament upon the Lord Keeper Littl●tons deserting of the House and conveying away the Great Seal were pleased for the better distribution of Justice and transaction of the great Affairs of the Realm to appoint a new Great Seal to be made The Ordinance for its approbation and use sticking long in the Lords House who were somewhat doubtfull in point of Law I thereupon compiled and published a Treatise intituled The opening of the Great Seal of England which fully satisfied them and opened the doors to let it out for publick use though some who have had the custody of it as Mr. Speaker knowes have but ill requited Me for this my pains good service Many Grants Commissions Presentations Writs Processe Proceedings and other things have passed under this Great Seal and some Patens for Offices and Bishops Lands to Members of this House who differ in opinion from me and yet would be glad to have their Patents confirmed by an Act of Parliament The King in this Treaty hath not only consented to ratifie all the Grants c. that have passed under this new Seal by Act of Parliament and to enact them to be as effectuall to all intents purposes as if they had passed under any other Great Seal of England heretofore used but to continue it to be used hereafter for the Great Seal of England and hath likewise so farre disclaimed his old Great Seal from the day it was carried from the Parliament that he is content to make and declare all Grants Commissions Presentations Writs Processe Proceedings and other things whatsoever passed under or by any Authority of any other Great Seal since the 22 of May 1642. To be invalid and of no effect to all intents and purposes except one grant to Mr. Justice Racon to bee Judge of the Kings Bench and some other Writs Processe and Commissions mentioned in that proposition And he hath further yeelded That all Grants of Offices Lands Tenements or hereditaments made or passed under the great Seale of Ireland unto any person persons or body politick since the Cessation in Ireland the 15 Septemb. 1642. shall be null and void with all Honours and Titles conferred on any person or persons in that Realme since that Cessation By this Concession the Houses of Parliament and their adherents have gained these extra ordinary advantages most of them not to be paralleld in any Age of King from Adom till this present First an acknowledgement of both Houses Authority to make and use a new great Seal of England without the King in cases of extraordinary necessity Secondly a power in the Houses to null and voide the Kings usuall Great Seal upon the making of their New and conveying the old Seal from the Houses without their consent Thirdly a ratification of all Judiciall and Ministeriall Acts Writs Processe presentations Grants Decrees Commissions and other things which have passed under the New Seal since its making till this present which tends much to the qulet and settlement of many mens Estates to the confirmation and justification of all legall proceedings in all Courts of Justice and at all Assises and Sesstons of Peace held by vertue of Commissions under this Seal and of Justices appointed by it whose authority and proceedings might else hereafter prove disputable and bee drawn into Question and to the fight constitution of the Parliament it selfe many Members of this House being elected and some Members and Assistants of the Lords House being called thither by VVrits under this New Seal Fourthly an absolute disavowing and repeall of all Commissions whatsoever or other things passed under the old Great Seal against the Parliament or its proceedings and an exposing of all those of the Kings Party who have acted any thing by any Commission or Authority under the
15. 9. d Rom. 13. 1. 2 Tim. 2. 2. 3 Tit. 3. 1. 1 Tit. 2. 13 14 15. Gen. 6. 11 12. Psal. 11. 15. Psal. 55. 9. Isay 59. 6. Rom. 1. 29 30 31. 2 Tim. 2. 3 4. e 1 Thes. 5. 22. 1 Cor. 8. 21. Rom. 12. 17. f Mat. 18. 17 18. 1 Cor. 10. 32. Rom 4. 20. 2 Cor. 6. 3. 1 Cor. 8. 13. 2. 1 Pet. 2. 11. c. 3. 12. * An humble answer p. 2. c. o 2. Sam. 10. 19. Deur 20. 10. 1 Kings 22. 41. p Psal. 122. 6. 8. Ier. 29. 7. q Heb. 12. 14. r Psal. 4. 14. Ier. 29. 7. 1. Pet. 3. 11. s 1 Thes. 4. 11. Cor. 10. 36. t Rom. 12. 18. 1. Tim. 22. u Rom. 15. 33. 2 Cor. 13. 11. 1. Per. 4. 9. 1. Thes. 5. 16. x I say 9. 6 7. Heb. 13. 20. y Gal. 5. 22. Eph. 4. 3. z Rom● 10. 15. Eph. 5. 16. u Lev. 26. 6. Numb 5. 26. 2 Kings 4. 20. 19. Psal. 128. 6. Psal. 147. 4. I say 26. 12. Ier. 14. 13. b Luk. 12. 13 14. 1 Per. 4. 15. Thes. 4 11. 2 Thes. 3. 11. Heb. 5. 4. e Tertul Apologia e Matth. 26. c. f Joan Mariana de Rege et Regum Instit. l. 1. c. 5. 6. 7. 8. Bellarmin De pontif Rom. 8. 5. 1. 6. 78. Ludovicus Richehom Apol. pro societate Iesu. Franciscus de Verona Apol. pro Ioanne Castel Aphorismi Doctrinae Iesuitarum * The Tit. Page * Exa●● Collect. p. 31 to 48. * Rastal Armor 1. * Exact Collect. p. 34 to 4g c. * A Colcon-lect p. 201 * Condemned by the Houses in the King Exact Collect p. 10● 20. ● 3. * A Collection p. 634. * Exact Collect. p. 34. to 46. 156 162. 201. 206. * Knols Twkish history p. 297. 298. * Rom ● 3● k Levi●● 19 17●1 Tim. 1. 20. T●● 1. 13. Object * Right Might p. 20. 21. Answ. * 1 Sa●●● 21. 6. * 2 Pet. 2. 16. * Ps. ● 3 2. 9. * All Pet●oners for Peace are now disabled to be or elect Officers by some late votes since out seclusion Mat. 26. 52. * These chains are only Metaphorical the chains of Gods Law and Word nor reall Ps. 2. 3. Is. 45. 14. Rom. 20. 1 2. * Si judicas cognosc● Scneca The● first prejudicet The Answer there● unto * Learned Giber●●s Voc●ius in his Letter to Mr Walter Strickland Agent fos the Parliament at the Hague Feb. 2 1644. writes thus of my Soveraign Power of Parliaments c. Accept nuperrime commodato adhoras aliquot librum Guil Prynne jam diu mi●i desideratum rationes cum respensionibus tam solide ●ru dite pro Parliamentto 〈◊〉 adversarios instructas atque explicatas deprehendi ut non videam quid ultra desiderari possit Debebat Tractaus ille Latine Gallice extare ut a Reformatis Theologi 〈◊〉 Politicis in Europa legi possit The second prejudice The Answer to it The Question The Question truly stated The Question truly stated The first Proposition fully granted and the benefits ac●●ing to us ther●● by The Militia fully consented to and the Kingdoms advantage and security thereby * An Exact Collection p. 88 89 9● 909. c. A Collection of all the publik Ordinances c pa. 49 50 51 57 58 77 84. * See Matthew Paris Matthew Westminster Hollinshead Speed Daniel in his life The King hath granted the Houses for 20 years the disposing of all great Offices Civill Judiciall and Military for twenty years both in England and Ireland The security and consequences thereof The King hath confirmed the new Oreat Seal all that hath passed under it nulled the old aud what ever passed under its authority since its carrying from the Houses The Repeale of new Peers and other Honours granted by the King with the consequence thereof * Sec Cook n●stitures on Mag. Cha. cap. 29. The proposition for raising moneys for payment of publike debts artears c. granted with its benefits The court of Wards aud Tenures in Capite c. abolished with the advantages The Proposition concerning Delinquents how sarre granted even to satisfaction * Exact collection p. 464. 585 619. 631. 633. 908. Object Answ. * 4. Instir. ● 1. p. 37. 38. * Sec 2 Chron. 28. 2. 10. 16. * See Rastalls Abridgment Tit. Treason That Propositions concerning London fully granted and the Consequences of it * Exact Collection p. 45. a Collection● c. p. 33. 495. 496. * An exact Collection p. 6. The satisfactoriness of the Kings answers to the Propositions concerning the Church Religion Propositions and Concessions against Papist Popery and Popish Innovations Propositions and Concessions against Prophanenesse * See the Book of Ordination of Ministers Bishops c. 1. 2. Ph. Mar. c. 8. * This I have fully proved in my Vnbishoping of Timothy Titus And of the Antipathy of English Prelacy to Unity and Monarchy par 1. 2. c. 9. * See my Vnbishoping of Tim. and Titus where this is largely proved * See this largely proved in my Vnbishoping of Timothy Titus and in Gersom Bucerus de Gubernat Ecclesiae * See my Antipathy of the English prelacy part 2. pag. 479. to 484. * Rev. 4. 10 11. c. 5. 8 9. c. 11. 16 17 18. * Acts 20. 17. 28. Phil. 1. 1. Tit. 1. 5 6 7. * See Goodwin Catalogue of English Bishops Rastalls abridgement Tit. Bishops sust fruits 〈◊〉 * A Colllection c. p. 124● 125. 902. * A Collection c. ● 922 23 c. * A Colllection p. 124 125. Object Answer a Mat. 8. 22. Luke 8. 2. Acts 3. 6. c. 4. 34. 35. 36. 37. c. 10. 10 5. c. 20. 34. 1 Cor. 4. 12. 1 Thes. 2. 9. Phil. 4. 10. 10. 20. 1 Cor. 11. 7 8 9. Gal. 1. 8. b See M. Seldens Hist. of Tythes c Polychron l. 4. c. 26. See D. Crakenthorp of Const. Donat. Euseb. de v●●a Constamin d c. 22. in vita Sylvestri e Hist. l. 4. c. 26 f Dialog l. 4. c. 15 16 17. 26. g Fox Acts and Monu p. 517. 522. h Answer to the Preface of M Moores Book p 116. i Ser. on Hag. 1 p. 176. Defence of the Apology part 6. c. 9. divis 3. k Tho. Becons Reports of certaine men vol. 3. f 341. l Opus 90. Dierun c. 124. m Fox Acts and Monu vol. 2. p. 609. 610. n Gra. dist 41. o Spel. Concil tom 1. p. 261. 263. p De Brit. Eccl. Primordiis c. 4. p. 661. 736. 737. 13. 14. q c. 21 22. c. r See his Life before his Works ho. 33. in Matth. 21. in 1 Cor. t Niceph. Eccl. hist. l. 18. c. 39. n Niceph. l. 8. c. 42. Socra eccl hist. l. 1. c. 12. s Naz. ora● 35. x Epist. 2. y M. Wheten p 44 45 46. z Sulpitius Scverus sacr hist. l. 2. Vssertus de Brit. Ec. Primordiis p. 196. a August
Seal against the Parliament to publick Justice who cannot plead it in Barre or excuse in any Court after it shall be nulled and repealed by an Act. Fifthly a great disparagement dishonour and disadvantage to the English Cavaliers Irish Rebels and their cause and proceedings with a future disingaging of them and al their Party from the King and his interest who hath so far dishonoured deserted and disclaimed them as thus to null and repeal all Honours Titles Grants of Offices Lands or Tenements bestowed on any of them for any services done or Assistance given by them to the King in his Warres against the Parliament A very high point of humiliation and self-deniall in the King and such a blow to his Popish and Malignant party that I dare presume they will never engage in his behalfe nor trust him for the future which will much conduce to the settlement of a firm and lasting peace and prevent new VVars if accepted of 6ly Indempnity and security for all the Commissioners of the new Great Seale against all scruples which may arise upon the Statute of 25. E. 3. for using and sealing with it if ever the times alter which every prudent man will readily embrace where it is freely offered and not peevishly reject in such an age of danger and incertainty as this in which no man is secure of his life liberty or estate on either side The next Concession of the King in this Treaty is this That by Act of Parliament all Peeres made since Edward Lord Littleton deserted the Parliament and convey●d away the Great Seale on the one and twentieth day of May 1642. shall be Vn-Peer'd and set by And all other titles of honour and precedency as Lordship Knighthood and the like conferred on any without consent of both Houses of Parliament since the twentieth of May 1642. shall be revoked and declared null and void to all intents and never hereafter put in use And that no Peere who shall be hereafter made by the King his heirs or successors shall sit or vote in the Parliament of England without consent of both Houses of Parliament This Concession of the Kings is of great concernment to the Kingdome and I conceive without president or example in any age or King in the Christian world First it secures us from our formerly feared danger of a designe in the King by new created Peers to make an over-ruling party at any time in the Lords House wherein the Iudicatory of the Parliament principally consists which danger and inconvenience by secluding the Bishops out of that House by an Act already passed and by this disabling all new Peers hereafter to be made to sit in that House without consent of both Houses is for ever totally prevented Secondly It gives such an extraordinary new power to the House of Commons as they never formerly enjoyed or pretended to to wit that no Peer created by the King himselfe or by the King or Lords in Parliament who usually created Peers in Parliament without the Commons privity or consent in former times shall be henceforth inaabled to sit or vote as Peers of Parliament but by consent of the House of Commons as well as of the King and Lords By which provision the Commons are made not only in some sense the Judges of Peers themselves which they could not try or judge beforeby the expresse letter of Magna Charta chap. 29. and the Common Law but seven their very Creators too Thirdly It is an extraordinary prejudice and blemish on the Kings cause and an extream dishonour dissatisfaction disengagement upon his own party then which a greater cannot be imagined For what higher affront or disgrace could the King put upon those Nobles Gent. others who have spent their estates lost their blood limbs and adventured their very lives in this cause against the Parliament and received no other reward for it but an empty title of honour perchance a Kightship Lordship or the bare title of a Marquesse Earl or Viscount which they have enjoyed but a year or two with little benefit and lesse content to be thus by Act of Parliament with the Kings owne Royall assent who conferred those titles on them for their gallant services in his behalfe thus suddenly degraded and divested of them all as if they had never been A perpetuall brand to them their posterity who must be inforced to give place to such of whom they have had precedency place by vertue of these dignities Which high affront and scorne I am verely perswaded will pierce and break many of their own at least their Ladies hearts and for ever disoblige them in the highest degree 4thly It will make all the ancient and new Nobility and Peers of England lesse dependent on the King lesse complying to serve his ends upon all occasions being never able to gratisie or reward them though never so ambitious with any new Honours or Peerships without consent of both Houses of Parliament whom they dare not displease or disoblige for fear of crossing them in their desired dignities and titles as well as in their great Offices which are both now in their disposall not in the Kings alone In brief the King in his Concession hath manifested the greatest humiliation and self-deniall that any King since there was a Kingdome in the world hath done It is and hath been the ancient and undoubted prerogative of all Kings in the world but especially of the Kings of England to conferre honours dignities of all sorts especially Knighthood on whom they shall think meet and more principally on those who have merited it by their gallantry in the field as Mr. Selden proves at large in his Titles of honour and others who have written of that Subject Now for the King out of a desire only of a happy peace and settlement not onely to part with much of the Royall Prerogative which all other Kings in the world enjoy for the future but to repeal the Honours and Titles conferred by him on his adherents for reward of their services in times past during all these wars is such a miracle and high degree of selfe-deniall as no age hath produced the like and that which most of this house had the King prevailed would have rather lost their lives had they conferred any such Titles on their Generalls and Commanders then have condescended to should the King require it And therefore I cannot agree with those over-censorious Gentlemen who so oft inculcate this that they can see no humiliation at al or change of heart in the King when I find so great a change and deep a humiliation in Him in this and all other forementioned free Concessions without any or little hesitation and I heartily wish their owne hearts were as much humbled as his and then I doubt on but they would thankfully embrace rest fully satisfied with his concessions for their owne and the Kingdomes benefit The next proposition tending
certain destructions and desolation to this poor Kingdome and more especially to the Army and their adherents in this desperate advice who must stand or fall upon their own bottome without the least aid or contribution from any other I desire them and all others who have either eyes or brains in their heads most seriously to consider But that which makes me most of all detest this desperate advice is this That it is the only way that can be thought upon to accomplish the Popes and Jesuites designs to set up Popery and subvert the Protestant Religion and professors of it in all our three Kingdoms and in all forraign Realms beyond the Seas For if this reforming Parliament which hath pretended so much to the extirpation of Popery shall so far play the Popes and Jesuites the undoubted contrivers of this Armys New-model of our peace and settlement as to depose and behead the King his father and forever disinherit him of the Crown bring him as a Traitor to die without mercy if he come hither It wil so far provoke and exasperate him the Duke being both young and of generous spirits not throughly grounded in our Religion and under the Queens tuition and in the power of this popish party abroad who will aggravate these high affronts and injuries put upon them to the utmost and on whose protection they will be in this case necessitated to cast themselves that there is great fear and probability they will immediately renounce such a bloody and detestable Religion as shall ins●igate us to such horrid actions and Councels and abominate all the professors of it so as totally to abandon them and turn Roman Catholicks in good earnest and then match themselves to great potent popish Alliances and by their purses forces and assistance and of the Popes and all his Catholick sonnes in Forraigne parts for the advancement of the Catholick cause and of the popish Malignants and discontented parties in England Scotland and Ireland which will questionlesse receive and assist the Prince as their Soveraign Lord and King invade our poore impoverished divided and distressed kingdom with such a power as in all humane probability would speedily over-runne and destroy this mutinous Army and the Houses too put them with their adherents to the Sword without mercy or quarter and disinherit them and their heirs for ever to revenge their Fathers blood and their dis-inherison of the Crown c. And then Popery and Prelacy will both return with greater authority power approbation then ever over-spread our whole three kingdoms and extirpate our Religion the professors of it as the most anti-Monarchical treacherous and perfidious bloody Miscreants under heaven excite all other forraign States and kingdoms to do the like to prevent the springing up of a new generation of treacherous King-killing State-subverting Agitators and Hypocritical perfidious Army-Saints and engage all Protestant kingdoms Churches and States for their own security and vindication to disclaim and declare against us This questionlesse will be the sad inevitable issue of this Jesuiticall advice if ever the Houses or Army shall put it into actuall execution and not speedily prevent it it being long since fore-plotted by the Jesuites as I shall prove anon at the beginning of the late Warre against the Scots But if the Prince and Duke be set aside I would gladly learn of these Statists who and what King they would set up Not any of the Kings posterity certainly since they dis-inherit two at a blow and the blood being corrupted by the Kings and their attainders no other heir can inherit it by descent it must escheat to the Houses or Armies disposal and become no kingdom at all but an Elective one if any And is this the next way to peace and settlement If so I have certainly lost my reason and senses too No it will be a seminary of lasting Wars of which few elective Kingdoms are long free every new election producing commonly a new Warre where there is no pretence of an hereditary succession much more where a right heir is forcibly and unjustly dis-inherited I shall give you but one instance though I could name you divers and that is a memorable one at home in our owne kingdom King Henry the first having one onely daughter Maud to reserve the Crown unto her after his death caused her to be crowned and made all the Prelates and Nobles swear to receive her as their Queen and Princesse after his decease But she marrying afterwards to the Emperour and being out of the Realme when King Henry died The Archbishop of Canterbury with the rest of the Prelates and Nobles contrary to their Oath and agreement elected Stephen Earle of Bloyes for their King and put by Maud the right heir Stephen taking an Oath to grant and confirm those Laws and Liberties for the kingdoms peace and settlement as they propounded to him before his Coronation A very likely means to settle Peace and prosperity as they imagined But was the event answerable No verily this cursed perjury and pollicy brought all the chiefe contrivers of it to great calamity and miserable ends and engendred a bloody civill Warre in the bowels of this kingdom which continued no lesse then seventeene years together with interchangeable successes till the whole kingdom was laid waste and desolate most Houses Towns and Villages burned to the ground their Gardens and Orchards quite destroyed their monies and estates exhausted and plundered their Cattle and flocks consumed and eaten up their Fields over grown with weeds in stead of Corne most of the people devoured by the Sword Famine and Pestilence and eleven hundred Castles Holds and Garrisons erected which were no other but dens of Theeves and Plunderers This was the peace and settlement this policy produced At last both Parties weary of the Wars out of pure necessity came to a Personall Treaty and in conclusion made this agreement That Stephen having no issue of his body should enjoy the Crowne during his life and Henry son and heir to Maud and next heir also to Stephen should succeed him after his death and in some sort officiate with him in the kingdoms Govenment during his life And so these long lasting Warres concluded after which there were at least eleven hundred Castles demolished by order of Parliament crected during these wars to the Countreys utter undoing But if we dis-inherit the Prince and Duke for ought I discern if they suddainly recover not their possession of the Crown of England after one seven years of Warre already elapsed we may have seventeen years more and seventeen after that again and be reduced to a more miserable condition then our Ancestors were in King Stephens dayes And that upon these two grounds First the contest then was onely between two Competitors for this one kingdom who had no other kingdoms of their own to side with them But the Prince and Duke being successively heirs as well to
expressing his approbation of it being gotten into the Generalls owne life Guard and the next man to him when he came to bring the Speaker unto the House of Commons August 6. 1647. He was afterward very active to perswade the Staffordshire supernumerarie forces not to disband and prevailed so much with them that there were severall orders from the house General ere they wovld obay therefore its propable he and they perswaded the Army at first not to disband or to goe for Ireland After which he was taken this summer at a meeting in Ramme-alley to raise a new Warre and being carried prisoner to the Committee of safety made an escape from thence by bribing his Keepers as is conceived having offered fifty peeces to a Captaine to suffer him to escape This Petition and Agreement of the People thus presented by the Agitators and this Jesuite Upou reading and debate thereof this House passed these Votes against it Die Martis 9. Novemb. 1647. A paper directed To the supream authority of the Nation The Commons in Parliament assembeld and stiled The just and earnest Petition of those whose names are subscribed in behalfe of themselves and all the free born people of England together with a printed paper annexed intituled All Agreement of the People for future and present peace upon grounds of common right avowed Resolved c. That the matters contained in these papers ARE DESTRUCTIVE TO THE BEING OF PARLIAMENTS and TO THE FUNDAMENTALL GOVERNMENT OF THE KINGDOM Resolved c. That a letter should be sent to the Generall and those papers inclosed together with the Vote of this house upon them and that he be desired to examine the proceeding of this businesse in the Army and returne an account hereof to this House By which Votes is apparant That the house then deemed this Agreement of the people a second Gunpouder Treason Destructive to the being of Parliaments That some Iesuites or ill affected persons in the Army had put these Agitators upon it and therfore desired the Generall to examine and give them an account of it The Generall and Councell of Warre in pursuance of this vote condemned one of the Agitators who fomented it and shot him to death at Ware wherewith they acquainted the house and by this meanes this Iesuites brat and Engin to blow up this and future Parliaments was no further prosecuted in the Army but some of their confederates in the City on the 23. of the same November most audatiously sent it into the house to the Speaker inclosed in a Letter with a petition wherupō the House unanimously passed these votes concerning this agreement for the committing and prosecuting those who presented it giving the Generall thankes for the Execution done at Ware desiring him to prosecute the businesse further to the bottome where they thought they should find a litter of Iesuites and a Garnet a Catesby and Faux together in the Vault Die Martis 23. Novemberis 1647. A Petition directed to the Supreame Authority of England The Commons in Parliament assembled and intituled The numble Petition of many free borne People of England sent in a Letter directed to Mr. Speaker and opened by a Commitee thereunto appointed was read the first and second time Resolved vpon the question That this Petition is a seditious and contemptuous avowing and prosecution of a former Petition and paper annexed stiled an Agreement of the people formerly adjudged by the House to be distructive to the being of Parliaments and fundamentall government of the Kingdoms Resolved c. That Thomas Prince Cheesemonger and Samuel Chidly be forthwith commtted prisoners to the prison of the Gate-house there to remaine prisoners during the pleasure of this House for a seditious and contemptuous avowing and prosecution of a former petition and paper annexed stiled An Agreement of the people formerly adjudged by this House to be Distructive to the being of Parliaments and fundamentall Government of the Kingdome Resolved c. That Jeremy Ives Thomas Taylor ani William Larner be forthwith committed to the prison at Newgate there to remaine prisoners during the pleasure of this House for a seditious and contemptuous avowing and prosecution of a former petition and paper annexed stiled An Agreement of the People formerly adjudged by this House to be Destructive to the being of Parliaments and fundamentall Government of the Kingdome Resolved c. That a letter be prepared and sent to the Generall taking notice of his proceedings in the execution according to the rules of War of a mutinous person at their Randezvouze neare Ware and to give him thanks for it and to desire him to prosecute the examination of that businesse to the bottome and to bring such guilty persons as he shall think fit to condigne and exemplary punishment Resolved c. That the Vots upon the former Petition and Agreement annexed and likewise the Vots and proceedings upon this Petition be forthwith printed and published Yea the houses were so sensible of the treasonablenes and danger of this agreement that in an Ordinance of the 17. of Decem. 1647. For electing of Common Councell men and other Officers in London they expresly ordained that person who hath contrived abetted perswaded or entred into that engagement intituled The agreement of the people declared to BE DESTRUCTIVE TO THE BEING OF PARLIAMENTS AND FUNDAMENTALL GOVERNMENT OF THE KINGDOM be elected chosen or put into the Office or place of the Lord Mayor of the City of London Sheriffe or Alderman Deputie of a Ward or Common Councell man of the said City nor shall have any voice in the electing of any such Officers for the spase af one whole year and be made uncapable of any of the said places Vpon this treable sentence of condemnation that passed against this Agreement of the people by these Votes Ordinances this stratagem of the Iesuits to blow up this and future Parliaments by putting a certanperiod to this Parlaments dissolution on the last of Sept. 1648. and setling a more equal Representative for the future with a fixed time for its beginning and ending and of a new Parliament of Commons alone without King or Lord● the substance of this whol agreement was for that year trustrated and totally laid aside till the beginning of Novem. last At which time the Iesuits and the Agitators to hinder Irelands reliefe and our settlement prosecuted it againe a fresh in the Army the better to disguise carry it on more closely they inserted it verbatim into their Remonstrance to break off the Treaty with the King prevailed so far with the General and his generall Councell of Officers who formerly condemned it and shot one to death for abetting it but in Novemb. before as unanimously to approve it at St Albans the sixtenth of November 1648. and sent it to this House the twentieth of that moneth to break of the Treaty presently and to be forthwith considered and confirmed and which is most
Liberties Government and establish their Vtopian New modale of confusion in lieu of Parliaments and regall power thereby to accomplish that now which all their Popish conspiracies armies and confederates from the beginning of Queen Elizabeths reign could never yet effect by all their treachery policy power and how farre they have proceeded and engaged the Army and Officers unwillingly in it out of honest intentions we all now sadly behold to our great amazement even in this instant of time when Ireland is in such eminent danger of being utterly lost to ●eep off all Supplies from thence I beseech you Mr. Speaker let us all lay this speedily to our hearts and goe about to prevent it ere it be too late If we Vote the Kings Answer now unsatisfactory and so breake off the Treaty with him our onely means of peace and settlement we have all our hopes and all these large concessions which the King hath granted both for our present and future security our Monarchy Magistracy Ministry Parliaments Laws Liberties Kingdoms and that which is dearest to us our Religion also endangered yea lost at once and such a certain foundation laid to carry on all these Iesuiticall designes I have here discovered and that by authority of this House as will staine the honor of this most glorious and renowned Parliam to all Posterity and put a dishonorable speedy period to this and all future Parliam for ever But if we Vote it so far satisfactory as I have stated it and humbly conceive proved it substantially to every rationall mans understanding conscience as that we may lay present hold upon it and proceed therein without delay to turn all the Kings Concessiōs into Bils which I have for the most part already drawn and get the Kings Royall assent unto them I doubt not but by Gods blessing on our endeavours we may before this Month be ended settle such a firme and well grounded Peace between the King all his People and kingdom upon such honorable safe and advantagious terms for the Publick interest such strong securities as no State or Kingdome ever yet enjoyed the like since the Creation And therefore Mr. Speaker upon this long and tedious debate for which I must humbly begge pardon of the House being a businesse of such infinite concernment to our present weale or ruine I must and doe conclude That the Kings Answers to the Propositions of both Houses are so farre Satisfactory at the least as that this House may upon safe and firme grounds and great advantages forthwith accept of and immediately proceed upon them to the speedy settlement of the Peace of the Kingdome and are bound both in honour prudence justice and Conscience so to doe to preserve themselves our three Kingdomes and the Army too from perpetuall bloody wars and inevitable impendent desolation and confusion FINIS AN APPENDIX For the Kingdoms better satisfaction of some occurrences since this SPEECH THis Speech uttered with much pathetique seriousnesse and heard with great attention gave such a generall satisfaction to the House that many Members formerly of a contrary opinion professed they were both convinced and converted others who were dubious in the point of satisfaction that they were now fully confirmed most of different opinion put to a stand and the Majority of the House declared both by their cheerfull Countenances and Speeches the Speaker going into the withdrawing Room to refresh himself so soon as the Speech was ended that they were abundantly satisfied by what had been thus spoken After which the Speaker resuming the Chair this Speech was Seconded by many able Gentlemen and the debate continuing Saturday and all Munday and Munday night till about nine of the Clock on Tuesday morning and 244 Members staying quite out to the end though the House doores were not shut up a thing never seen or known before in Parliament the question was at last put and notwithstanding the Generals and whole Armies march to Westminster and Menaces against the Members in case they Voted for the Treaty and did not utterly eject it as unsatisfactory carryed in the affirmative by 140 Voyces with the four Tellers against 104 that the question should be put and then without any division of the House it was Resolved on the question That the Answers of the King to the Propositions of both Houses are a ground for the House to proceed upon for the settlement of the Peace of the Kingdom And to give the General Officers and Soldiers satisfaction and keep a fair correspondency between the house and them they so far condescended as likewise further to vote at the same time That Mr. Peirpoint Sir John Evelyn of Wilts Mr. Solicitor Col. Birch M. Ashurst Sir Thomas Witherington and Mr. Maynard are appointed to repair to the head-quarters this afternoon to confer with the Lord General and his Officers to keep a Right understanding and a good correspondency between the House and the General and the Army Which done the House who sat up all the day and night before adjourned until Wensday morning At which time the General and Officers of the Army highly displeased with the vote and those Members who assented to it sent two or three whole Regiments of Foot and Horse to Westminster set a strong guard at the Houses doors in the lobby stairs and at every passage leading towards the house admitting none but Parliament men themselves to enter into Westminster-Hall or the back stairs leading to the Court of Requests and excluding their servants who attended them Col. Pride Col. Hewson and Sir Hardress Waller seized upon divers Members of the Commons house some at the House doors other in the Lobby others on the stairs near the House without any warrant or reason alleadged but their sword and power as they were going to sit and discharge their duties Among others Col. Pride seized upon Mr. Prynne going up the stairs next the house and told him Mr. Prynne you must not go into the House but must go along with me M. Prynne returned this answer That he was a Member of the House and was going into it to discharge his duty from which no man should or ought to hinder him whether he would go and he should not keep him back and thereupon thrust up a step or two more Whereupon Pride thrusting him down before and Sir Hardress Waller and others laying hands on and pulling him down forcibly behind to the Court of Requests great door Mr. Prynne thereupon demanded by what Authority and Commission and for what cause they did thus violently seize on and pull him from the house to which Pride and Waller shewing him their armed Souldiers standing round about him with swords muskets and matches lighted told him that there was their Commission to which Mr. Pryme answered that they were no legal commission nor cause for them to seize upon him being a Member and openly protested that it was an high breach of the Priviledges of