not only by the Princes Pleasure Fortescue 40. a. but also by Assent of the whole Realm so that of Necessity they must procure the Wealth of the People and in no wise tend to their hindrance It cannot otherwise be thought Ibid. but that they are replenish'd with much Wit and Wisdom seeing they are ordain'd not by the Device of one man alone or of a hundred wise Counsellors only but of five hundred and odd Men that ought to be freely Elected by the People CHAP. II. Power of Parliament THE most High and Absolute Power of the Realm of England Sir Tho. Smith's Common-wealth l. 2. c. 2. p. 72. Arcana Parl. 1. consisteth in the Parliament For as in War where the King himself in person the Nobility the rest of the Gentility and the Yeomanry are is the Force and Power of England So in Peace and Consultation where the Prince is to give Life and the last and highest Commandment the Barony or Nobility for the higher the Knights Esquires Gentlemen and Commons for the lower part of the Commonwealth the Bishops for the Clergy be present to advertise consult and shew what is good and necessary for the Commonwealth and to consult together and upon mature deliberation every Bill or Law being thrice read and disputed in either House the other two parts first each a part and after the Prince himself in presence of both the Parties doth consent unto and alloweth that is Ibid. p. 73. the Prince's and whole Realm's Deed whereupon justly no man can complain but must accommodate himself to find it good and obey it That which is done by this Consent is called firm stable and sanctum and is taken for Law The Parliament abrogateth old Laws 2. Maketh new Sir Tho. Smith ibid. Arc. Parl. 2. Vide Crompt Jur. 3. 3. Giveth order for things past and for things hereafter to be followed 4. Changeth Right and Possessions of private Men. 5. Legittimateth Bastards 6. Establisheth Forms of Religion 7. Altereth Weights and Measures 8. Giveth Form of Succession to the Crown 9. Defineth of doubtful Rights whereof is no Law already made 10. Appointeth Subsidies Tallies Taxes and Impositions 11. Giveth most free Pardons and Absolutions 12. Restoreth in Blood and Name 13. As the highest Court condemneth or absolveth them who are put upon their Trial. And to be short 14. All that ever the People of Rome might do either Centuriatis Comitiis or Tributis the same may be done by the Parliament of England which representeth and hath the Power of the whole Realm both the Head and Body For every English-man is intended to be there present either in Person or by Procuration and Attorny of what preheminence state dignity or quality soever he be from the Prince be he King or Queen to the lowest Person of England And the Consent of the Parliament is taken to be every man's consent As for the Power of Parliaments over both the Statute and Common Law of this Realm Rastal's Statutes fol 546. 25 H. 8. c 21. you will be best informed of it from the memorable words of an Act of Parliament it self which are as followeth viz. Whereas this Realm recognizing no Superiour under God but only the King hath been and is free from Subjection to any Man's Laws but only to such as have been devised made and ordained within this Realm for the Wealth of the same or to such other as by Sufferance of the King and his Progenitors the People of this Realm have taken at their free Liberty by their own Consent to be used amongst them and have bound themselves by long Vse and Custom to the Observance of the same not as to the Observance of the Laws of any Foreign Prince Potentate or Prelate but as to the Custom and ancient Laws of this Realm originally established as Laws of the same by the said Sufferance Consents and Custom and none otherwise It standeth therefore with Natural Equity and Good Reason that all and every such Laws Humane made within this Realm by the said Sufferance Consents and Custom the King and the Lords Spiritual and Temporal and Commons representing the whole State of this Realm in the most High Court of Parliament have full Power and Authority not only to dispence but also to authorize some Elect person or persons to dispence with those and all other Human Laws of this Realm and with every one of them as the Quality of the persons and Matter shall require And also the said Laws and every of them to abrogate adnul amplifie or diminish as it shall be seen to the King and the Nobles and Commons of this Realm present in Parliament meet and convenient for the Wealth of this Realm The Power and Jurisdiction of the Parliament for making of Laws in proceeding by Bill 4 Inst 36. is so transcendent and absolute as it cannot be confined either for Causes or Persons within any Bounds Si Antiquitatem spectes est vetutissima si Dignitatem est honoratissima si Jurisdictionem est capacissima The whole Parliament which should best know its own Power affirms Speed's Hist f. 914. Rot. Parl. 1 R. 3. In Cotton's Abridgment f. 713 714. That the Court of Parliament is of such Authority and the People of this Land of such a Nature and Disposition as Experience teacheth that the Manifestation and Declaration of any Truth or Right made by the Three Estates of this Realm assembled in Parliament and by Authority of the same maketh before all other things most Faith and certain quieting of mens Minds and removeth the Occasion of Doubts Parliamentum omnia potest says the 4 Leon. 174 176. The Parliament is of an absolute and unlimited Power in things Temporal within this Nation Sir Rob. Atkyns's Argument c. 50. The Parliament hath the highest and most sacred Authority of any Court Ibid. it hath an absolute Power it is the highest Court in the Realm as is acknowledged by our most learned and gravest Writers and Historians A man gives Land to one Crompton 20. b. and to his Heirs Males in that Case his Heirs Females also inherit and this was adjudged in Parliament One of the fundamental and principal Ends of Parliaments was Petyt's Preface to Ancient Rights c. p. 41. for the Redress of Grievances and easing the Oppressions of the People And the Mirror of Justices says c. 1. p. 9. That Parliaments were instituted to hear and determine the Complaints of the wrongful Acts of the King the Queen and their Children and especially of those persons against whom the Subjects otherwise could not have common Justice The greater the Persons are Sir Rob. Atkyns Argument p. 45. if they are in the Rank of Subjects they must be subject to the King's Laws and they are the more proper for the Undertaking and Encounter of this High Court It will not be impar congressus King John had resign'd up the Crown of
Returned And notwithstanding their Resolutions scilicet the Resolution of the Judges the Commons House hold clearly that Sir Francis Goodwyn was well Received into Parliament and the King commanded them to Confer together and Resolve if they could of Themselves and if they could not Resolve to Confer with the Judges and then to Resolve and when they were Resolved then to deliver their Resolution to his Councel not as Parliament men but as his Privy Council by whose hands he would receive the Resolution and for that purpose he left them behind him he himself being to ride to Royston a hunting And to pursue the Commandment of the King the Commons House clearly Resolved That what they had done was well and duly done and they were of Opinion clearly against the Judges as to the Matter of the Outlawry and that Ratione of the Presidents And also that the Parliament only had to do with the Sheriff's Returns of Members of Parliament and that the Returns ought not to be made till the first day of the Parliament and therefore They would not confer with the Judges But they appointed a Committee to consider of the Reasons to be delivered to the Council for the Satisfaction of the King which Committee by the Assent of All the House of Commons sent to the Lords this Resolution following videlicet As to what the King taxed the House for That they medled with the Sheriff's Return of Members of Parliament Note This Resolution was written in Parchment and so delivered to the Council of the King not as Parliament men but Representing the King's Person and a Copy thereof was kept in the House being but one half of the Body the Lords being one and the Principal Part of the Parliaments Body As to that They Answered That all Writs for the Election of Members of Parliament were returned into the Parliament House before 7 Hen. 4. at which time it was Enacted That all such Returns ought to be made in Chancery and that appeared by the Records from the Time of Edward the First until the said Year of the Seventh of Henry the Fourth And therefore the Parliament must of Necessity have only medled with the Returns till the making of the said Statute of the Seventh of Henry the Fourth at which time the place of the Return was alter'd and Enacted to be in Chancery but yet that did not take away the Jurisdiction of the Parliament to meddle with the Returns of the Members of Parliament but that remained as it was before And this was manifest as well by Reason as by Vse For that Court is to meddle with Returns where the Appearance and Service of Members is to be made and used But in the Parliament only the Appearance and Service are to be made and used and therefore in the Parliament only are the Returns to be examined and censured Likewise ever since the making of the said Statute of the Seventh of Henry the Fourth the Clerk of the Crown attends the Parliament every day till the end of it with all the Writs and Returns and at the end of the Parliament he brings them into the Petty Bag. The Presidents also do warrant this intermedling with Returns for the Parliament as in the Twenty ninth of the Queen a Writ issued forth to the Sheriff of _____ who made a Return before the day into Chancery and the Chancellour upon that Return containing such matter as this Writ now contains sent a second Writ to the said Sheriff who thereupon made a new Election and that second Writ was also returned and both the Writs and Returns brought into Parliament and there Censured by the Parliament That the first should stand and that the second Election was void and that the Chancellour hath no Power to award a second Writ nor to meddle with the Return of it and divers other Presidents were shewn by the Commons to the same Effect videlicet In the Nine and twentieth of Queen Elizabeth One. And in the Three and fortieth of Queen Elizabeth another And in the Thrity fifth of the Queen two Whereof one was upon the Return of the Sheriff that the Party first elected was Lunatick and thereupon the Parlament examined it and upon Examination thereof they found the Return true and gave a Warrant for another Writ As to the Matter that they were but One half of the Body to that they said That though in the making of Laws they were but an Half Body yet as to Censuring of Priviledges Customs Orders and Returns of their House They were an Entire Body as the Vpper House was for their Priviledges Customs and Orders which Continual and Common Vsage hath Approved of As to their Charge of having used Precipitancy and Rashness they Answered That they used it in such a Manner as in all Other Cases they were wont to do scilicet To have first a Motion of the Matter in Controversie and then they caused the Clerk of the Crown to bring the second day the Writs and Returns and They being thrice read they proceed to the Examination of them and upon Examination gave Judgment which was the true Proper Course of the Place As to the House's not having used the King well the thing being done by his Command they say That they had no Notice before their Sentence that the King himself took any special Regard of that Case but only that his Officer the Chancellour had directed the second Writ as formerly had been done As to the Matter of the Outlawry They said That they understand by his Royal Person more strength and light of Reason from it than ever before and yet it was without Example That any Member of the House was put out of the House for any such Cause but to prevent that they had prepared a Law That no Outlawed Person for the time to come should be of the Parliament nor any Person in Execution should have the Priviledge of Parliament But they said further That Sir Francis Goodwyn was not Outlawed at the Day of his Election for he was not Quinto Exactus the five Prolamations never had been made which Proclamation they in London always spare except the Party or any for him require it and that Exigent was never Returned nor any Writ of Certiorari directed to the Coroners to certifie it but after his Election which was a thing unusual the Money being paid the Sheriffs being long since dead to Disenable the said Goodwyn to serve in Parliament that the Exigent was returned and the Names of the deceased Sheriffs put thereto Et ex hoc fuit without doubt that Goodwyn could not have a Scire Facias for there was no Outlawry against him and by Consequence the Pardons had discharged him And They farther shewed to the King That if the Chancellour only could examine Returns then upon every Surmise whether it were True or False the Chancellour might send a Second Writ and cause a New Election to be made And thus the Free Election of the County should be Abrogated which would be too Dangerous to the Commonwealth For by such means the King and his Council might make Any Man whom they would to be of the Parliament House against the great Charter and the Liberties of England FINIS BOOKS Printed for and sold by Timothy Goodwin at the Maiden-head against St. Dunstan 's Church in Fleetstreet 1. 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England to the Pope Id. 37. by the Hand of Pandulphus his Legat and sordidly submitted to take the Crown at his Hand again at a yearly Tribute In the Reign of our Noble King Edward the Third the Pope demanded his Rent and all the Arrears The Prelates Dukes Counts Barons and Commons resolved That neither the King nor any other could put the Realm nor the People thereof into Subjection sans l'assent de eux without their Assent This intimates Ibid. that with their joynt Consent the Crown may be disposed of And it was the highest Resolution in Law in one of the highest Points in Law concerning the King's claim of an Absolute Power and in a Time when the Pope was in his height It is the proper Work of this Supreme Court to deal with such Delinquents Ibid. as are too high for the Court of King's Bench or other ordinary Courts Daughters 4 Inst 36. and Heirs apparent of a Man or Woman may by Act of Parliament inherit during the Life of the Ancestor It may adjudge an Infant or Minor to be of full Age. Ibid. It may Attaint a Man of Treason Ibid. after his Death It may Naturalize a meer Alien Ibid. and make him a Subject born It may bastard a Child Ibid. that by Law is Legitimate viz. begotten by an Adulterer the Husband being within the four Seas It may Legitimate one that is Illegitimate Ibid. and born before Marriage absolutely it may Legitimate secundùm quid and not simplicitèr 21 Rich. 2. The Lords Appellants accused the Duke of Glocester of Treason Selden's Judicature 91. and tho' they knew he was dead they pray'd the King that he might be brought to his Answer The King sent his Writ c. they desired Judgment and had it So Robert Possington was impeached at the Parliament at Westminster Id. 95. and found Guilty long Time after he was dead and so forfeited his Estate John of Gaunt Duke of Lancaster had by Catherine Swinford 4 Inst 36. before Marriage four illegitimate Children Henry John Thomas and Joan. At the Parliament holden 20 Rich. 2. the King by Act of Parliament in Form of a Charter doth Legitimate these three Sons and Joan the Daughter Thomas Cromwel Earl of Essex was attainted by Parliament Ibid. and forth-coming to be heard and yet never call'd to answer in any of the Houses of Parliament and resolved by the Judges That if one be Attainted by Parliament it can never come in question after whether he were call'd or not call'd to answer for the Act of Attainder being pass't by Parliament did bind Where by Order of Law a man cannot be Attainted of High-Treason Id. 39. unless the Offence be in Law High-Treason he ought not to be Attainted by general Words of High-Treason by Authority of Parliament as sometimes hath been used but the High-Treason ought to be specially exprest seeing that the Court of Parliament is the highest and most honourable Court of Justice and ought to give Example to inferior Courts Acts against the Power of the Parliament subsequent bind not Id. 42. It is against the Power and Jurisdiction of the Parliament the Liberty of the Subject and unreasonable The Stat. Id. 42. 11 Rich. 2. c. 5. That no Person should attempt to revoke any Ordinance then made repealed for that such Restraint is unreasonable An Act 11 Rich. 2. c. 3. Ibid. That no man against whom any Judgment or Forfeiture was given shou'd sue for Pardon or Grace c. was holden to be unreasonable without Example and against the Law and Custom of Parliament and therefore void The High Court of Parliament to be committed to a few as in 21 Rich. 2. c. 16. Ibid. is holden to be against the Dignity of a Parliament and that no such Commission ought to be granted Tho' it be apparent Id. 43. what transcendent Power and Authority this Parliament hath and tho' divers Parliaments have attempted to bar restrain suspend qualifie or make void subsequent Parliaments yet could they never effect it for the latter Parliament hath ever Power to abrogate suspend qualifie explain or make void the former in the Whole or in any Part thereof notwithstanding any Words of Restraint Prohibition or Penalty in the former For it is a Maxim in the Law of Parliament Quòd Leges posteriores priores contrarias abrogant An Act of Parliament doth include every man's Consent Hobart 256. as well to come as present The Soveraign Power of this High Court of Parliament is such Hakewel 86. That altho' the King's Majesty hath many great Priviledges and Prerogatives yet many Things are not effectual in Law to pass under the great Seal by the King's Charter without Parliament The King by his Letters Patents may make a Denizen Id. 87. but cannot Naturalize him to all purposes as an Act of Parliament may do If a man be Attainted of Felony Id 89. or Treason by Verdict Outlawry Confession c. his Blood is corrupted which is a perpetual and absolute Disability for him or his Posterity to claim any Hereditament in Fee-simple either as Heir to him or any Ancestor paramount him and he shall not be restored to his Blood without Parliament And the King may give to any attainted Person his Life by this Charter of Parliament Id 90. The King cannot alter the Common Law or the general Customs of the Realm as Gavelkind Borough-English or the like without Parliament If a King have a Kingdom by Discent Ibid seeing by the Law of that Kingdom he doth inherit that Kingdom he cannot change those Laws of himself without Consent of Parliament By the Laws of this Kingdom Ibid. the King cannot by his Proclamation alter the Law but the King may make Proclamation That he shall incur the Indignation of his Majesty that withstands it But the Penalty of not obeying his Proclamation may not be upon Forfeiture of his Goods his Lands or his Life without Parliament Brook 123.98 Vide 20 H. 6.9 Crompton 22. b. Le Parliament d Engleterre ne lia Ireland quoad Terras suas quar ils ont Parliament la mes il poient eux lier quant al Choses transitory come eskipper de Lane ou Merchandize al intent de ceo carrier al auter Lieu ultra Mare The Parliament of England cannot bind Ireland as to their Lands for they have a Parliament there but they may bind them as to Things transitory as the shipping of Wool or Merchandize to the intent to carry it to another Place beyond the Sea Sometimes the King of England call'd his Nobles of Ireland to come to his Parliament of England 4 Inst 350. c. And by special Words the Parliament of England may bind the Subjects of Ireland The Lords in their House have Power of Judicature Id 23. and the Commons in their House have Power
were committed some to the Tower some to the Serjeant till they made a Submission and Recognition in the House and in the Country In the same Id. 106 107. One Levet for peremptorily exercising a Patent in Time of Prorogation which was adjudg'd a Grievance by the House in the last Session order'd to be sent for by the Serjeant at Arms. CHAP. VII Power of Parliament over their own Members THE Freedom of Speech and Debates be an undoubted Priviledge of the House Scobel 72. yet whatsoever is spoken in the House is subject to the Censure of the House and where they find cause Offences of this kind have been severely punish'd by Calling the Persons to the Bar to make Submission Committing him to the Tower the usual Prison to which the Commons do send Delinquents expelling the House disabling him to be a Member during that Parliament and sometime of any future Parliament 17 Maij 1572. Ibid. Vide d'Ewes Jour 212 Vid. Petyt's Miscell Parl. 12 13 c. Upon sundry Motions made by divers Members of the House it was ordered That Arthur Hall Esq for sundry Speeches used by him in the House and abroad shou'd be warned by the Serjeant to be at the House on Monday following and at the Bar to answer Matters charged against him and all such Persons as had noted his Words either in the House or abroad were forthwith to meet and set down the same words in writing and deliver the same to the Speaker On Monday Mr. Hall was brought to the Bar by the Serjeant was charged with several Articles and confessed his Folly and humbly submitted himself to the House and was remitted 8 Febr. 1585. Id 73. Vide Sir Simon d'Ewes Journal 244. Col. 1. Peter Wentworth Esq one of the Burgesses for Tregony in the County of Cornwal was for violence and wicked words uttered by him in the House touching the Queen sequester'd and being brought to the Bar by the Serjeant to whom he was committed received this Judgment by the Mouth of the Speaker That he shou'd be committed close Prisoner to the Tower till the House take further Consideration concerning him 4 Febr. 1580. Id 74 75. Vide Sir Simon d'Ewes Jour 296 297 298. Vid. Petyts Miscell Parl. a. p. 20 ad p. 63. 23 Eliz. Complaint was made in the House against Arthur Hall Esq spoken of before who had caus'd a Book to be printed where were published the Conferences of the House and in it was contained Matter of Reproach against some particular Members of the House derogatory to the General Authority Power and State of the House and prejudicial to the Validity of the Proceedings of the same The Matter was referr'd to a Committee to examine and upon Report thereof and bringing Mr. Hall to the Bar several Times to answer he was sentenced by the House to be committed to the Tower as the Prison to this House there to remain for the space of Six months and so much longer as until he shou'd himself willingly make a Retraction of the said Book to the satisfaction of the House or of such Order as the House shou'd make during that Session That the said Arthur Hall shou'd be fined to the Queen Five hundred pounds for his said Offence That he shou'd be presently severed and cut off from being a Member of this House during this Parliament and a Writ to issue for Election of a new Burgess for the Borough of Grantham in his stead That the said Book shou'd be deemed and adjudged false and Erroneous Thereupon the said Mr. Hall was brought to the Bar to whom Mr. Speaker in the Name of the whole House pronounced the said Judgment in Form aforesaid and the Serjeant was commanded to take Charge of him and to convey him to the Tower and deliver him to the Lieutenant of the Tower by Warrant of this House to be signed by the Speaker It appeareth by the Journal 21 Nov. 1586. Ibid. That he was disabled for ever to serve in Parliament 17 Dec. 1584. Id. 76. Vide Sir Simon d'Ewes Jour 340 341 342. 27 Eliz. A Bill against Jesuits and Seminary Priests pass't upon the Question Dr. Parry only gave a Negative and after inveighed in violent Speeches against the whole Bill affirming it to savour of Treasons to be full of Blood Danger Despair and Terror or Dread to the English Subjects of this Realm our Brethren Uncles and Kinsfolks Upon which he was sequestred from the House into the outer Room into the Hands of the Serjeant and not to confer with any while the House was in Debate of that Business Afterward he was brought to the Bar and there kneeling he was told by the Speaker If he thought fit the House was content to hear his Reasons but he refusing was committed to the Serjeant's Ward The next day he was brought to the Bar and kneeling confessed he had unduly behaved himself and had rashly and unadvisedly uttered those Speeches he had used and was with all his heart very sorry for it alledging withal he had never been of the House till that Session and so could not so well know the Orders of the House as he shou'd do and that he would not henceforth willingly offend the House nor any one man in it and so humbly prayed their good Favour toward him Whereupon being again sequestred out of the House after some Arguments and Debates it was resolved upon this Acknowledgment of his Fault and his humble Submission he shou'd be received into this House again as a Member thereof and take his Place as before so that he would still afterward behave himself in good sort as he ought to do and thereupon being call'd again to the Bar and there kneeling and directly reiterating his former Confession of his Fault and humble Submission with promise of better Demeanor he was admitted 18 Febr. 1584. Sir Simon d'Ewes Journal 352. Col. 2. 27 Eliz. Upon a Motion by Mr. Diggs That the same Dr. Parry a late unworthy Member of this House and now Prisoner in the Tower hath since his Submission and Reconcilement so mis-behaved himself as deserveth the said Imprisonment Resolved by the House That he be disabled to be any longer a Member of this House and that a Warrant be directed for choosing another Burgess in his stead 18 Jac. 1. Sir Giles Mompesson for being a Monopolist and for other great and insufferable Crimes by him committed to the Abuse of his Majesty and grievous Oppression of the Subjects turn'd out of the House committed to the Tower and after impeached before the Lords who gave Judgment upon him Petyt's Miscel l Parl. 91 92 1. To be degraded of the Order of Knighthood 2. To stand perpetually in the degree of a person Outlawed for Misdemeanors and Trespasses 3. His Testimony never to be received in any Court nor to be of any Inquisition or Jury 4. To be excepted out of all General Pardons 5. That