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A51279 The life and death of Sr. Thomas Moore, who was Lord Chancelor of England to King Henry the Eight More, Cresacre, 1572-1649.; More, Thomas, 1565-1625. 1642 (1642) Wing M2630; ESTC R7630 170,245 434

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vsed also manie wittie sayings as that it is an easie matter in some cases for a man to loose his head and yet to haue no harme at all Good deedes the world being vngratefull is wont neuer to recompence neither can it though it were gratefull Speaking of heretikes he would say they haue taken away hipocrisie but they haue placed impudencie in the roome thereof so that they which before fayned themselues to be religious now doe boaste of their wickednesse He prayed thus O Lord God grant that I endeauour to gett those things for which I am to pray vnto thee When he had anie at his table speaking detraction he would interrupt them thus Lett anie man thinke as he pleaseth I like this roome very well for it is well contriued and fayrely built Of an vngratefull person he would say that they wrote good turnes donne vnto them in the dust but euen the least iniuries in marble He compareth reason to a handmayde which if she be well taught will obey and Faith to the mistrisse which is to keepe her in awe captiuans intellectum in obsequium fidei To seeke for the truth amongst heretikes is like to a man wandring in a desert meeting with a companie of lewde fellowes of whome he asketh his way they all turning back to backe each poynteth right before him assureth him that that is his true way though neuer so contrarie one to the other He sayth that he were a madde man that would drinke poyson to take a preseruatiue after that but he is a wise man that spilling the poison leaueth the antidote for him that hath need thereof As it is an easier thing to weaue a new nett rather then to sowe vp all the holes of an olde euen so it is a lesse labour to translate the Bible a new then to mende heretical versions He is not wise that eateth the bread which is poysoned by his enemies although he should see a friend of his scrape it away neuer so much especially hauing other bread to eate not poysoned The heretikes saying that none ought to fast but when they are troubled with the motions of the flesh he answereth if it be so no married man needes to fast for they haue another remedie athand and virgins durst not fast least wanton fellowes should marke them when carnall temptations most assayle them and this were for one to shew to others their fleshlie fraylties He was wont to say that he may well be adadmitted to heauen who was verie desirous to see God but on the contrarie side he that doth not desire earnestly shall neuer be admitted thither Against an heretike he speaketh thus that if monasticall life be against the Gospell as you seeme to say it must needes be that the gospell be contrarie vnto it and that were to say that Christ taught vs to pamper ourselues carefully to eate well to drinke well to sleepe well and flowe in all lust and pleasure Yf Faith cannot be without good workes why then bable you so much against good workes which are the fruicts of fayth That people should fall into bad life and lust is as great a miracle he saith as stones to fall downewards Whereas he sayth you inueighe against Schoole-Diuinitie because truth is there called in doubt not without danger we inueighe against you because false matters are held by you vndoubtedly for truth it selfe These good fellowes speaking of heretikes will rather hang out of Gods vinyarde then suffer themselues to be hired into it Heretikes writings seing they conclude no good thing are altogeather tedious be they neuer so short And againe As none can runne a shorter race then he that wantes both his feete so none can write shorter then he that hath not anie good matter nor fitt wordes to expresse it When an heretike tolde him that he should not write against heretikes vnlesse he could conuerte them he sayd that it was like as if one should not finde faulte with burners of housen vnlesse he were able to builde them vp againe at his owne charge He telleth that heretikes vse to frame Catholikes arguments very weake and friuolous that they may the more easily confute them euen as little children make houses of tyleshardes which they cast downe with great sporte againe presently Of their contumelious speaches against himself he sayth I am not so voyde of reason that I can expect reasonable matter from such vnreasonable men When they sayd his writings were nothing but ieasting toyes he sayth I scarce belieue that these good brethren can finde anie pleasant thing in my bookes for I write nothing in them that may be pleasing vnto them When the heretike Constantine had broken prison in his house he bad his man goe locke the doore fast and see the place mended sure least he should come back againe and when the heretikes reported that he was sorie for this that he could not for anger eate in three daies he answered that he was not so harsh of disposition to finde fault with anie man for rising and walking when he sate not at his ease All his English workes were sett out togeather in a great volume whilst Q. Marie raigned by Iudge Rastall Sir THOMAS his sister's sonne by which workes one may see that he was verie skillfull in Schoole-Diuinitie and matters of Controuersie for he argueth sharpely he confirmeth the truth profoundly and citeth both Scriptures and Fathers most aptely besides he vrgeth for the aduerse parte more a great deale then anie heretike euer did that wrote before him But to see how he handleth Luther vnder the name of one Rosse would do anie man good faining that Rosse wrote his booke from Rome against the most ridiculous and scurrilous pāphlett which Luther had made against King Henrie the eighth who of good zeale had sett out with great praise a booke in defence of the Seauen Sacraments the Pope's authoritie for which Pope Leo the tenth gaue him the tile of Defender of the Faith Wherefore in defence of his Soueraigne whome Luther had most basely rayled at calling him often Thomistical asse that he would beray the king's Crowne who was not worthie to wipe his shoes with manie other scurrilous speaches Sir THOMAS painteth out the fowle mouthed fellowe in his liuelie coulours and made him so enraged that it stung him more then anie other booke that euer was sett out against him Finally in euerie one of his bookes whensoeuer he toucheth anie controuersie he doth it so exactly that one may see that he had diligently read manie great Diuines and that he was very well seene in S. Thomas the father of all Diuinitie this may be an euident signe which his Secretarie Iohn Harris a man of sound iudgement and great pietie reported of him that on a time an hereticall booke newly printed and
grew first by occasion of a certaine Nunne called Elizabeth Berton dwelling in Canterburie who for her vertue and holinesse was not a little sett by amongst the common people vnto whome for that cause manie religious persons Doctours of Diuinitie and diuerse lay men of good worshipp vsed to resorte she affirming to them constantly that she had reuelations oftentimes from God charging her to giue the king warning of his wicked life and of his abusing of the sword and authoritie committed from almightie God vnto him She moreouer knowing that my Lo of Rochester Bishopp Fisher was of a singular and rare vertuous life and of admirable learning repaired to Rochester and there disclosed vnto him all her reuelations desiring his aduise and counsell therein which the holie Bishopp perceauing might well stande with the lawes of God and his holie Church aduised her as she before had warning to doe and intended it to goe to the king herselfe and lett him vnderstande all the circumstances thereof which she perfourmed stoutely telling him all the reuelations and so returned to her cloyster againe In a short space after he making a iourney to the Nunnes of Sion by meanes of one Fa Reynold a priest of that house there she happened to enter into talke with Sir THOMAS MORE concerning such secretts as had bene reuealed vnto her some parte thereof touching deepely the matter of the king's supremacie which shortly after this followed and about the vnlawfullnesse of the king's marriage Sir THOMAS though he might well at that time without danger of anie lawe of which there was then none freely talke with her therein yet notwithstanding he demeaned himself so discreetely in all his talke with her that he deserued no blame but rather great cōmendations as it was proued after most euidently when it was sore layd to his charge 6. After the diuorce was pronounced there was sett out a booke by authoritie from the Councell which layde downe the reasons why this diuorce was donne wherein amongst other matters it was sayde that therefore the king would not stay for the Pope's sentence because he had already appealed from him to the next Generall Councell Strayte after it was rumoured abroad that Sir THOMAS MORE had answered and refuted this booke of which slaunder Sir THOMAS purged himselfe by a letter to Mr. Cromevvell now Secretarie and in the king's greate fauour shewing by manie arguments that he neither would nor could confute that booke which letter is at large in the latter ende of Sir THOMAS his workes· But for all his purging himselfe accusations still came thicke and threefolde vpon him For the king by threates and sifting of his former deedes would either winne him to his minde or else finde some occasion to except against his doings and had he not bene a man of singular integritie free from all bribes and corruption in all his offices euerie light matter would haue bene layde now heauie vpon him as of some things he was indeede accused which addes more to his honour and reputation There was one Parnell that grieuously complayned against Sir THOMAS because when he was Lo Chancellour at the suite of one Mr. Vaughan his aduersarie he had made a decree against him for which at his wife's handes Sir THOMAS had taken a greate guilt Cuppe as a bribe for the clearing of which accusation Sir THOMAS being called before the bodie of the Councell the whole matter was in grieuous manner layde to his charge and when Sir THOMAS confessed the taking thereof saying that for as much as that Cuppe was giuen him long after the decree for a new yeares guift he at her importunitie of courtesie refused not to take it Then the Lo of Wiltshire Q. Anne's father who was the preferrer of the suite hated Sir THOMAS both for his religion and for that he had not consented to his daughter's marriage with much ioy sayd vnto the other Lords Loe did I not tell you that you should finde the matter true wherevpon Sir THOMAS desired their Honours as they had courteously heard him tell the one parte of his tale so they would voutsafe to heare the other with indifferent eares which being granted he further declared vnto them that albeit at her vrging he had indeede receaued the Cuppe yet immediately therevpon he caused his buttler to fill it vp with wine and therein drunke to her which when he had donne and she pledged him then he as freely as her husband bestowed it vpon him did euen as willingly bestowe the same vpon her againe for her new yeares-guift so forced her to receaue it though much against her will all which herselfe and manie others there then present deposed before that honourable assemblie Thus his accusers were putt to shame enough and he with great honour acquitted At another time on a new-yeares day also there came vnto him Mris Croaker a verie rich womā for whome with no smal paines he had made a decree in Chauncerie against the Lo of Arundel neuer fearing in acte of Iustice anie nobilitie of bloud or greatenesse of personage who presented him with a paire of gloues and fourescore Angells in them he thankefully receaued the gloues of her but refused the monie saying Mris seeing it were against good manners to refuse a gentlewomans new-yeares-guift I am content to take your gloues but as for the lining I vtterly refuse it and so caused her to take her monie againe One Mr. Gresham likewise hauing at the same time a Cause depending before him in the Chancerie sent him for a new-yeares-guift a fayre guilt Cuppe the fashiō whereof he very wel liked wherefore he caused the messenger to take one of his owne Cuppes which was in value better though the fashion pleased him not so well deliuer it to his maister in recōpence of the other vnder no other cōdition would he receaue it wherefore he was fayne so to doe Manie like vnto those actes did he which declared how cleane his hands were from taking of anie bribes which for tediousnesse sake we will omitt these are enough to shew anie liuing man how little he gayned yea how litle he cared for all transitorie wealth esteeming vertues of the minde his richest threasure and Christ naked on the Crosse his chiefe desire which holie pleasure of his almightie God before his death fulfilled when for his loue he lost all that might be most deare vnto worldlie men separation from wife and children losse of all libertie and the vtter ouerthrowe of all his goods and estate yet by leesing these things he gayned better for in steede of temporall he atchieued eternall in lieu of transitorie he hath purchased permanent in roome of deceiptfull trash he hath bought to himselfe a Crowne of glorie centuplum accepit vitam aeternam possidet he was a true marchant that by selling all he had bought the precious margarite spoken of by
doore to sing a Salue regina whereby wee shall still keepe companie and be merrie togeather O worthie resolution see how he expresseth his loue towards his Children but more towards God taking patiently whatsoeuer might befall him And he that prouideth for the worst will the better be prepared to endure lesser Crosses But what an admirable thing is this that whereas he was by the king taken into his Maiestie's seruice from a verie worshipfull liuing as I haue sayd foure hundred pounds by the yeare to deale in the greatest and weightiest Causes that concerned his Highnesse and the realme he had spent with painefull cares trauells troubles as well beyond the seas as with in this kingdome in effect the whole substance of his life yet with all the gayne he gott thereby being neuer himself a wastefull spender he was not now able after the resignement of his offices to finde for himself and those that necessarily belonged vnto him sufficient meate drinke fewell apparrell and such needefull charges all the lands which he euer purchased being as my vncle Rooper well knew not aboue the value of twentie markes by the yeare and after his debts payde he had not of my vncle's owne knowledge his Chayne excepted in golde and siluer left him the worth of one hundred pounds Wherefore his Children went to their owne liuings all but my vncle Rooper my aunte who liued in the house next vnto him 8. And how really he had desired himselfe to resigne vp his place of Chancellourshipp partely for the aboue mentioned consideratiō and partely also for his owne content quiett enioying of himself may well appeare in that he so much liked and highly commended the like deede in William Warrham that worthie Archbishopp of Canterburie immediately before Card. Wolsey as by this letter vnto him is to be seene I haue alvvaies esteemed your most reuerend Fatherhood happie in your courses not only vvhen you executed vvith great renovvne the office of Chancellourshipp but also more happie novv vvhen being ridde of that great care you haue betaken yourself to a most vvished quiettnesse the better to liue to yourself and to serue God more easily such aquietnesse I say that is not only more pleasing then all these troublesome businesses but also more honourable farre in my iudgement then all those honours vvhich you then enioyed For manie men and amongst those some vvicked men also may oftentimes be raised to great offices but vvhen you had that high Office of Chancellourshipp vvhich as all others of the like kinde are is of that nature that the more authoritie and povver one hath vvhilst he doth beare it the more slaunders he is subiect vnto hauing left it to resigne such an office voluntarily vvhich yet your Fatherhood could scarce gett leaue to doe vvith all the meanes you could vse none but a modest minded man vvould nor anie but a guiltlesse man dare doe Wherefore manie and amongst them myself doe applaude and admire this your acte vvhich proceeded from a minde I knovve not vvhether more modest in that you vvould vvillingly forsake so magnificent a place or more heroicall in that you could contemne it or more innocent in that yon feared not to depose yourself from it but surely most excellent and prudent it vvas to do so for vvhich your rare deede I cannot vtter vnto you hovv I reioyce for your sake and hovv much I congratulate you for it seing your Fatherhood to enioye so honourable a fame and to haue obtayned so rare a glorie by sequestring yourselfe farre from all vvorldlie businesses from all tumult of Causes and to bestovve the rest of your daies vvith a peaceable conscience for all your life past in a quiett calmenesse giuing yourselfe vvholy to your booke and to true Christian philosophie vvhich pleasing and contented state of yours my ovvne miserie causeth me daily more and more to thinke of vvho although I haue no businesses vvorth the talking of and yet he was then one of the King 's priuie Counsell Threasurer of the exchecker and employed in manie embassages yet because vveake forces are easily oppressed vvith small matters I am so troubled daily vvith businesses that I haue not as much as once leasure to visite your Fatherhood or to excuse myself therefore by letter and scarcely was I able to write this vnto you by vvhich I vvas to commende this my little booke of Vtopia vnto your most reuerende Fatherhood vvhich an Antwerpian friend of mine loue svvaying his iudgement hath thought fitt to be published and hath putt it in printe vvithout my priuitie being rather hudled vp then polished vvhich I vvas emboldened to sende to you though it be vnvvorthie of your learning experience and dignitie relying on your courteous nature vvhich is vvont to conster to the best euerie man's endeauoures also trusting in your tryed loue tovvards me by which I hope though the vvorke itself should not like you that yet for the authors sake you vvill fauour it Farevvell most honourable prelate A little after this time he wrote thus to Erasmus I haue a good vvhile expected if anie man could accuse me of anie thing since the deposing myself of the Chancellourshipp and as yet no man hath come forth to complaine of anie my iniustice either I haue bene so innocent or so craftie that my aduersaries must needes suffer me to glorie in the one if they cannot abide I should do so in the other Yea this the king's maiestie also as vvell in priuate discourse often as also tvvice in publike hath vvittnessed for that vvhich shamefastnesse vvill not suffer me to speake of myself he commaunded the most noble Duke of Norfolke high Threasurer of England vvhen my successour an excellent man vvas settled in my place to testifye this to all the assemblie that he had hardly at my earnest intreatie suffered me to lett the office goe and not content vvith that singular fauour in my behalfe he caused the same againe to be spoken of in his ovvne presence vvhen in the audience of a publike meeting of the Nobilitie and people my successour recited his first speach as the custome is in the assemblie of all the Estates vvhich vve call the Parlement He writeth also to Erasmus in another letter thus That vvhich I haue from a childe vnto this day almost continually vvished my most deare Desiderius that being freed from the troublesome businesses of publike affayres I might liue some vvhile only to God and myselfe I haue novv by the especiall grace of almightie God and the fauour of my most indulgent prince obtayned And then hauing spoken somewhat of the weakenesse of his health he goes on saying Hauing these things often in my head either that I vvas to depose myself of the office or that I should fayle in the performāce of my dutie therein seing that I could not dispatche those affaires but that I must endanger my life
Christ in S. Matthew then which there can be imagined nothing more precious which without doubt he enioyeth for all eternitie 7. Now there was another parlement called where in there was a bill putt into the Lower house to attaynte the nunne and manie other religious men of high treason and Bishopp Fisher with Sir THOMAS MORE of misprision of treason which bill the King supposed would be so terrible to Sir THOMAS that it would force him to relente and condescende vnto him But therein he was much deceaued for first Sir THOMAS sued that he might be admitted into the Parlement to make his owne defence personally which the king not liking of graunted the hearing of this Cause to my Lo of Canterburie the Lo Chancellour the Duke of Norfolke and Mr. Cromvvell who appointing Sir THOMAS to appeare before them my vncle Roper requested his father earnestly to labour vnto them that he might be putt out of the parlement bill who answered then that he would but at his coming thither he neuer once entreated them for it when he came into their presēce they entertained him very courteously requesting him to sitt downe with them which in no case he would then the Lo Chancellour beganne to tell him how manie waies the king's maiestie had shewed his loue and fauour towards him how gladly he would haue had him continue in his office how desirous he was to haue heaped still more and more benefittes vpon him and finally that he could aske no worldlie honour and profitt at his Highnesse's hands but that it was probable that he should obtaine it hoping by these words declaring the king's affection towards him to stirre Sir THOMAS vp to recompence the king with the like by adding his consent vnto the king's which the Parlement the Bishopps and manie Vniuersities had already consented vnto Wherevnto Sir THOMAS mildely made this answer that there vvas no man liuing that vvould vvith better vvill doe anie thing vvhich should be acceptable to his Highnesse then he vvho must needes confesse his manifolde bountie and liberall guifts plentifully bestovved vpon him hovv be it he verily hoped that he should neuer haue heard of this matter anie more considering that from the beginning he had so plainely and truly declared his minde vnto his maiestie vvhich his highnesse of his benigne clemencie had euer seemed like a gracious prince very vvell to accept of neuer minding as he sayd vnto him to molest him anie more therevvith since vvhich time sayd he I neuer found anie further matter to moue me to anie change and if I could sayd he there is not one in the vvhole vvorld vvhich vvould haue bene more ioyfull for it Many speaches hauing passed to and fro on both sides in the ende when they saw euidently that they could not remoue him from his former determination by no manner of perswasion then beganne they more terribly to threaten him saying the king's maiestie had giuen them in commaunde expressely yf they could by no gentle meanes winne him that they should in his name with greate indignatiō charge him that neuer there was seruant so villanous to his Soueraigne nor anie subiect so trayterous to his prince as he For by his subtile and sinister sleights he had most vnnaturally procured and prouoked the king to sett forth a booke of the assertion of the Seauen Sacraments and for the maintenance of the Pope's authoritie so that he had caused his Maiestie to putt a sword in to the Pope's hands to fight against himselfe to his greate dishonour in all the partes of Christendome Now when they had displayed all their malice threates against him my Lord sayd Sir THOMAS these terrours be frights for children and not for me but to ansvver that vvhere vvith you chiefely burthē me I belieue the king's Highnesse of his honour vvill neuer lay that booke to my charge for there is none that can in that point say more for my discharge then himselfe vvho right vvell knovveth that I neuer was procurer promotour nor counseler of his Maiestie therevnto only after it vvas finished by his Grace's appointment and the consent of the makers of the same I only sorted out and placed in order the principall matters therein wherein vvhen I had found the Popes authoritie highly aduanced and vvith strong arguments mightily defended I sayd thus to his Grace I must putt your Highnesse in remembrance of one thing and that is this the Pope as your Maiestie vvell knovveth is a Prince as you are in league with all other Christian princes it may hereafter fall out that your Grace and he may varie vpon some points of the league vvhere vpon may grovve breache of am●t●e and vvarre betvveene you both therefore I thinke it best that that place be amended and his authoritie more slenderly touched Nay quoth his Grace that shall it not vve are so much bound to the Sea of Rome that vve cannot doe to much honour vnto it Then did I further putt him in minde of our statute of Praemunire vvhereby a good parte of the Pope's authoritie pastoral cure vvas payred avvay to vvhich his Maiestie ansvvered vvhatsoeuer impediment be to the contrarie vve vvill sett forth that authoritie to the vttermost For vve haue receaued from that Sea our Crovvne Imperiall vvhich till his Grace vvith his ovvne mouth so tolde me I neuer heard before Which things vvell considered I trust vvhen his Maiestie shal be truly informed thereof and call to his gracious remembrance my sayings and doings in that behalfe his Highnesse vvill neuer speake more of it but vvill cleare me himselfe with which wordes they with great displeasure dismissed him parted 8. Then tooke Sir THOMAS his boate to Chelsey wherein by the way he was verie merrie and my vncle Rooper was not sorrie to see it hoping that he had gotten himself discharged out of the bill When he was landed and come home they walked in his gardin where my vncle sayd vnto him I trust Sir all is well because you are so merrie It is so indeede sōne I thanke God Are you then Sir putt out of the parlement Bill sayd my vncle by my troth sonne I neuer remembred it Neuer remembred that sayd he that toucheth you and vs all so neare I am verie sorie to heare it For I trusted all had bene well when I saw you so merrie Wouldst thou knowe sonne why I am so ioyfull In good Faith I reioyce that I haue giuē the diuell a fowle fall because I haue with those Lords gone so farre that without great shame I can neuer goe back This was the cause of his ioye not the ridding himself of troubles but the confidence he had in God that he would giue him strength willingly to suffer anie thing for Christs sake that he might say with Christ IESVS Desiderio desideraui c. I thirst greatly to drinke of the Cuppe of Christ's passion