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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A77724	A publick disputation sundry dayes at Killingworth in Warwick-shire, betwixt John Bryan, doctor in divinity (minister at Coventry) and John Onley, pastor of a church at Lawford. Upon this question, whether the parishes of this nation generally be true churches. Wherin are nine arguments alleged in proof of the affirmative of the question, with the answer of I. O. thereunto, together with Doctor B. Reply. Also an addition of ten arguments more in further proof of the question, with an answer adjoyned in disproof thereof. Published by both their consents, as appears by the ensuing epistles.	Bryan, John, d. 1676.; Onley, John.	1655 (1655)	Wing B5245; Thomason E823_9; ESTC R207672	61,370	75

was many of our Churches are not without it the power of the Keyes you well know is exercised in many of our Congregations That which you Object is want of true Baptism and giving the Lords Supper to a promiscuous Company I prove they had true Baptism thus If the Baptism they had in our Churches be better than that they had in yours then it is true Baptism now that it is so I thus evince That Baptism that is dispensed by an authorized Administrator is better than that which is administred by such as are not authorized but our Baptism is so administred so is not yours That our Administrators are lawfully authorized you heard me prove at large in a full discourse and then I took away all material objections against our calling and manner of Enterance into it to which I heard you then said nothing though the day after you mention'd one of the objections I put viz. That we had our Ordination from the Bishops they theirs from the Pope he his from the Devill but to this I gave two answers viz. That our Bishops were not Antichristian because they had truth of doctrine Secondly If they were yet it makes not our calling null the Reasons at large you have in your notes if you please to deal faithfully in overthrowing them I shall take it thankfully Evident it is that our Administrators are set apart by solemn Calling and Ordination for the publick Ministry and that such only may baptize appears Matth. 28. 18 19. As for you or any of yours that administer Baptism who say you have authoritie from Jesus Christ I wouldfain I could never yet see that Question so frequently put to you anwered to the least colourable satisfaction I intreat you to do it viz. How came you by this authoritie from Jesus to Baptize immediatly or mediatly If you say immediatly you must either shew a new Commission or make it appear by an immediat Calling your names are put into that only written Commission so you call it And if your calling be extraordinary let me ask you as the Jewes did Christ John 2. 18. whereby it may appear that you do these things by divine authoritie shew the gifts of tongues miracles interpretation of tongues c. An extraordinary call never wanted the evidence of Extraordinary abilities or qualifications in one kinde or other If you say your Calling is mediate from the Church of Christ then our demand is whether your Call came from a Church in order built up according to the true Gospell Platform or from a Company of Believers out of Gospell Order i. e. ungathered you will not say sure from the larter because you deny the Ministers of the Church of England to be a true ministery because they were not Called by a true Church i. e. a society of Baptized Believers and put into order according to your way if you should say you had your Call from a Church ungathered you would proclame your Calling to be Antichristian from your own principles and yourselves Scihsmaticks by separating from a true Ministery If you say your calling is from a Baptized Congregation then the Question still is whether this Congregation was of your own or some others gathering If you gathered them then you gathered without Call for none can elect till they be Baptized and in a way of Gospell order If the Congregation that Chose and Called you was of anothers gathering and Baptizing then we ask who Called than man to gather and Baptize and so up higher you must needs find out some one that was a baptized person and called by a Baptized Congregation by whom the first Administrator in England was Baptized from whom to derive it successively If you can finde such a man yet you know two scruples remain still which you are desired to remove the first is How that Baptizer had his Call and so backward to the first and he it seems must either be one who Baptized himself or one who rested contented with his own infant-Baptism but this you hold nul and for that you will not say there is the least colour in Scripture or if neither of these then he must prove himself sent of God to begin a new Institution as John was even more than a Prophet for this way was not till 1500. years after The other scruple is this by what authority that man so called Baptized the first person that was Baptized in England seeing to Baptize is an act of office and power and no man can be a lawfull Officer or Administrator unless elected to that authority by baptized Persons I need not acquaint you how you are pressed with these Questions and the result that is gathered viz. That you have no mission from God or his Church but Sathan hath filled your hearts with blind zeal and sent you abroad to prophane this holy Ordinance and to lead people in the ditch that you are wandring starrs and subverters of unstable souls such as have fed upon ashes c. but I will make no such inference but expect that you either justifie your calling or repent you of your Practice First we neither have had the pure Word taught but instead thereof J. O. Answ they are the Commandments of men Nay many Parishes from whom we have received members have been so far from having the pure Word taught that their teachers have been Ignorant Idle dumb doggs as said your self and such as know not well what preaching is as said Dr. Grew Neither yet have we had the Sacraments rightly administred for the first instead of Baptizing a Believer according to the a Mar. 16. 15. 16. Mar. 28. 19 20. Go ye Disciple i e. Make them Scholars or learners See Luk. 14. 16 27. Institution of the Lord Jesus and the practice b Joh. 4. 12. Act. 8. 12. 13. 37 c. of all his holy Disciples that are recorded in holy Writ you have sprinkled a little water in the face of an Infant that hath been false in the Subject viz. an Infant instead of a visible Professor of the Lawes of Jesus false in the manner viz. Sprinkling instead of dipping accoraing to the signification of the word according to Christs own c Mat. 3. 16. Act. 8. 38. example and his holy servants and according to one end for d Ro. 6. 4. which it was Instituted and false in one Principal part of the end it being by you most applied as a Scal of grace when mostly it is a signification of e Mat. 28. 19. Baptizing into the Name so the Word which frequently signifieth profession Ma. 10. 22. Jo. 15. 21. Act. 5. 41. Revel 2. 13. c. So Paul 1 Cor. 1. 13. 15. Were you Baptized into the name of Paul i. e. Were you in your Baptism caused to devote your selves into the profession of Paul or rather of Christ which principal end of Baptism is wholly evacuated by the Baptizing of Infants profession made And