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A27015 The safe religion, or, Three disputations for the reformed catholike religion against popery proving that popery is against the Holy Scriptures, the unity of the catholike church, the consent of the antient doctors, the plainest reason, and common judgment of sense it self / by Richard Baxter. Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1657 (1657) Wing B1381; ESTC R16189 289,769 704

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better_a translate_v it_o ecclesiae_fw-la quae_fw-la est_fw-la in_o syria_n quae_fw-la pro_fw-la i_o jam_fw-la domino_fw-la pastore_fw-la utitur_fw-la edit_fw-la vedel_n pag._n 250._o and_o bishop_n usher_v old_a latin_a translation_n be_v ecclesiae_fw-la quae_fw-la pro_fw-la i_o pastore_fw-la dei_fw-la utitur_fw-la and_o the_o next_o word_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i._n e._n &_o solus_fw-la ●am_fw-la visitahit_fw-la &_o sit_fw-la vestra_fw-la in_o eo_fw-la dilectio_fw-la as_o the_o vulgar_a latin_a version_n or_o solus_fw-la ipsam_fw-la curabit_fw-la visitabitque_fw-la as_o vairlenius_n and_o vedelius_fw-la or_o rather_o as_o bishop_n usher_v old_a latin_a version_n solus_fw-la ipse_fw-la jesus_n christus_fw-la vice_n episcopi_fw-la sit_fw-la from_o whence_o i_o gather_v that_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n be_v not_o the_o bishop_n universal_a of_o that_o syrian_a church_n or_o else_o ignatius_n 1_o will_v have_v sure_o commend_v it_o to_o his_o care_n 2._o or_o at_o least_o 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be_v to_o the_o first_o word_n and_o not_o to_o rome_n that_o this_o bless_a disciple_n of_o john_n do_v send_v the_o philippian_n for_o stability_n against_o error_n 26._o irenaeus_n be_v say_v by_o eusebius_n eccles_n hist_o li._n 5._o cap._n 26._o to_o have_v sharp_o reprove_v victor_n for_o break_v the_o church_n peace_n by_o excommunicate_v the_o asian_a church_n about_o easter_n day_n church_n and_o tell_v he_o that_o the_o like_o be_v never_o hear_v of_o and_o that_o his_fw-la predecessor_n do_v otherwise_o therefore_o he_o take_v not_o victor_n to_o be_v infallible_a and_o it_o be_v apparent_a that_o all_o the_o asian_a church_n ●ho_n stand_v against_o victor_n and_o be_v excommunicate_v by_o ●im_n do_v little_a dream_n that_o he_o be_v the_o universal_a bishop_n or_o infallible_a nay_o their_o bishop_n sharp_o reprehend_v he_o and_o their_o word_n be_v yet_o extant_a say_v eusebius_n moreover_o in_o the_o same_o chapter_n of_o eusebius_n it_o be_v express_v by_o irenaeus_n to_o vict●●_n ibid._n that_o policarp_n the_o disciple_n of_o john_n differ_v from_o anicetus_n and_o neither_o of_o they_o can_v be_v persuade_v to_o alter_v his_o opinion_n therefore_o policarp_n never_o dream_v either_o that_o the_o roman_a bishop_n be_v infallible_a or_o be_v his_o governor_n who_o he_o shall_v obey_v and_o its_o worth_n the_o read_n in_o the_o 24._o and_o 25._o chapter_n of_o eusebius_n how_o confident_o polycrates_n oppose_v victor_n allege_v a_o general_n custom_n from_o the_o apostle_n and_o resolve_v never_o to_o change_v his_o custom_n and_o the_o bishop_n and_o church_n here_o in_o england_n do_v follow_v the_o same_o custom_n and_o differ_v from_o rome_n and_o in_o the_o 28_o chapter_n eusebius_n mention_v a_o ancient_a writer_n that_o oppose_v the_o heresy_n of_o artemon_n and_o whereas_o they_o allege_v that_o all_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n till_o zephyrinus_n be_v of_o their_o mind_n and_o preach_v it_o even_o victor_n himself_o that_o be_v against_o the_o godhead_n of_o christ_n he_o answer_v they_o thus_o this_o peradventure_o may_v seem_v to_o have_v some_o likelihood_n of_o truth_n if_o it_o be_v not_o oppugn_v first_o of_o all_o by_o the_o holy_a scripture_n next_o by_o the_o book_n of_o sundry_a man_n long_o before_o the_o time_n of_o victor_n as_o justin_n miltiades_n tatianus_n clemens_n and_o irenaeus_n so_o that_o this_o old_a writer_n suppose_v it_o no_o impossible_a thing_n for_o a_o bishop_n of_o rome_n to_o have_v teach_v heresy_n and_o in_o the_o very_a conclusion_n of_o the_o chapter_n and_o book_n eusebius_n recite_v many_o more_o of_o the_o word_n of_o that_o old_a writer_n among_o the_o which_o there_o be_v these_o against_o the_o heretic_n of_o those_o time_n for_o presume_v to_o correct_v and_o so_o deprave_v the_o scripture_n which_o methinks_v shall_v touch_v the_o romanist_n to_o the_o quick_a belike_o they_o be_v altogether_o ignorant_a what_o presumption_n be_v practise_v in_o this_o wicked_a deed_n of_o they_o for_o either_o they_o persuade_v themselves_o that_o the_o holy_a scripture_n be_v not_o