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they_o a_o good_a death_n to_o this_o end_n 4._o she_o give_v they_o a_o timely_a foreknowledge_n of_o their_o death_n ib._n 96._o that_o they_o be_v not_o surprise_v she_o send_v the_o angel_n to_o assist_v they_o in_o it_o and_o sometime_o come_v she_o own_o self_n in_o person_n ib._n 97._o 5._o she_o obtain_v they_o the_o grace_n of_o repentance_n if_o they_o be_v in_o sin_n and_o of_o perseverance_n page_n 98._o if_o they_o be_v in_o a_o state_n of_o grace_n qu._n 6._o whether_o the_o bless_a virgin_n have_v ever_o fetch_v any_o out_o of_o hell_n page_n 99_o answer_v 1_o as_o to_o purgatory_n it_o be_v certain_a that_o the_o virgin_n have_v bring_v several_a soul_n from_o thence_o as_o well_o as_o refresh_v they_o whilst_o they_o be_v there_o 2._o page_n 100_o it_o be_v certain_a she_o have_v fetch_v many_o out_o of_o hell_n i._n e._n from_o a_o state_n of_o damnation_n before_o they_o be_v dead_a 3._o the_o virgin_n can_v and_o have_v fetch_v man_n that_o be_v dead_a in_o mortal_a 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pilgrimage_n to_o the_o place_n where_o she_o be_v special_o honour_v ibid._n the_o practice_n of_o devotion_n towards_o she_o 1._o to_o wear_v her_o scapulary_a which_o whoso_o do_v pag._n 315._o shall_v not_o be_v damn_v but_o this_o habit_n shall_v be_v for_o they_o a_o mark_v of_o salvation_n a_o safeguard_v in_o danger_n and_o a_o sign_n of_o peace_n and_o eternal_a alliance_n they_o that_o wear_v this_o habit_n pag._n 316._o shall_v be_v moreover_o deliver_v out_o of_o purgatory_n the_o saturday_n after_o their_o death_n 2._o to_o enter_v into_o her_o congregation_n pag._n 321._o and_o if_o any_o man_n be_v mind_v to_o save_v himself_o it_o be_v impossible_a for_o he_o to_o find_v out_o any_o more_o advantageous_a mean_n than_o to_o enrol_v himself_o into_o these_o company_n pag._n 322._o 3._o to_o devote_v one_o self_n more_o immediate_o to_o her_o service_n pag._n 339._o for_o which_o the_o father_n give_v several_a very_o grave_a form_n ib._n &_o seq_n these_o be_v some_o of_o 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to_o state_n the_o case_n and_o to_o that_o end_n will_v fain_o know_v what_o we_o mean_v when_o we_o say_v that_o christ_n be_v not_o corporeal_o present_v in_o this_o sacrament_n or_o how_o that_o which_o be_v not_o the_o thing_n itself_o be_v yet_o more_o than_o a_o mere_a figure_n of_o it_o in_o answer_n to_o which_o i_o shall_v need_v seek_v no_o far_o than_o those_o testimony_n i_o before_o allege_v out_o of_o the_o public_a act_n of_o our_o church_n to_o satisfy_v he_o catechism_n see_v the_o church_n catechism_n our_o catechism_n affirm_v that_o the_o inward_a part_n or_o thing_n signify_v in_o this_o holy_a supper_n be_v the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n which_o be_v very_o and_o indeed_o take_v and_o receive_v by_o the_o faithful_a in_o the_o lords-supper_n and_o the_o meaning_n of_o it_o our_o 28_o 28._o 28_o article_n 28._o article_n expound_v thus_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v give_v take_v and_o eat_v in_o the_o lord_n supper_n only_a after_o a_o spiritval_n and_o heavenly_a manner_n and_o the_o mean_n by_o which_o this_o be_v do_v be_v faith_n so_o that_o to_o such_o as_o right_o and_o worthy_o and_o with_o faith_n receive_v the_o same_o the_o bread_n which_o we_o break_v be_v as_o st._n paul_n declare_v it_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o the_o cup_n of_o blessing_n which_o we_o bless_v the_o communion_n of_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n in_o a_o word_n we_o say_v that_o the_o faithful_a do_v real_o partake_v of_o christ_n body_n after_o such_o a_o manner_n as_o those_o who_o be_v void_a of_o faith_n can_v though_o they_o may_v participate_v the_o outward_a element_n alike_o who_o therefore_o our_o church_n declare_v 29._o declare_v article_n 29._o to_o receive_v only_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n but_o to_o be_v no_o way_n partaker_n of_o christ_n but_o rather_o as_o st._n paul_n again_o say_v to_o eat_v and_o drink_v their_o own_o damnation_n not_o discern_v the_o lord_n body_n it_o body_n see_v the_o appendix_n n._n v._o in_o which_o st._n chrysostom_n give_v the_o very_a same_o account_n of_o it_o these_o be_v the_o word_n of_o our_o church_n and_o the_o meaning_n be_v clear_o this_o christ_n be_v real_o present_a in_o this_o sacrament_n inasmuch_o as_o they_o who_o worthy_o receive_v it_o have_v thereby_o real_o convey_v to_o they_o our_o saviour_n christ_n and_o all_o the_o benefit_n of_o that_o body_n and_o blood_n whereof_o the_o bread_n and_o wine_n be_v the_o outward_a sign_n this_o great_a effect_n plain_o show_v it_o to_o be_v more_o than_o a_o mere_a figure_n yet_o be_v it_o not_o his_o body_n after_o the_o manner_n that_o the_o papist_n imagine_v office_n imagine_v rubric_n at_o the_o end_n of_o the_o communion_n office_n christ_n body_n be_v in_o heaven_n and_o not_o on_o the_o holy_a table_n and_o it_o be_v against_o the_o truth_n of_o christ_n natural_a body_n to_o be_v at_o one_o time_n in_o more_o place_n than_o one_o the_o sacramental_a bread_n and_o wine_n then_o remain_v still_o in_o their_o very_a natural_a substance_n nor_o be_v there_o any_o corporal_a presence_n of_o christ_n natural_a flesh_n and_o blood_n at_o the_o holy_a altar_n the_o presence_n we_o allow_v be_v spiritual_a and_o that_o not_o only_o as_o to_o the_o manner_n of_o the_o existence_n 78._o existence_n vindicat._n p._n 77_o 78._o which_o the_o vindicator_n seem_v to_o insinuate_v for_o we_o suppose_v it_o to_o be_v a_o plain_a contradiction_n that_o a_o body_n shall_v have_v any_o existence_n but_o what_o alone_o be_v proper_a to_o a_o body_n etc._n that_o this_o exposition_n be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o ch._n of_o england_n the_o authority_n already_o cite_v show_v see_v also_o the_o homily_n concern_v the_o sacrament_n part_v 1._o p._n 283._o etc._n etc._n and_o the_o same_o be_v the_o explication_n which_o all_o the_o other_o protestant_a confession_n have_v give_v of_o it_o as_o be_v evident_a by_o the_o collation_n of_o they_o make_v by_o bishop_n cofin_n in_o his_o history_n of_o transubstantiation_n cap._n 2._o where_o he_o have_v set_v down_o their_o word_n at_o large_a p._n 6._o etc._n etc._n i._n e._n corporal_a but_o as_o to_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o thing_n itself_o and_o yet_o it_o be_v real_a too_o the_o bread_n which_o we_o receive_v be_v a_o most_o real_a and_o effectual_a communion_n of_o christ_n body_n in_o that_o spiritual_a and_o heavenly_a manner_n which_o st._n paul_n speak_v of_o and_o in_o which_o the_o faithful_a by_o their_o faith_n be_v make_v partaker_n of_o it_o thus_o do_v our_o church_n admit_v of_o a_o real_a presence_n and_o yet_o 80._o yet_o vindic._n p._n 80._o neither_o take_v the_o word_n of_o institution_n in_o their_o literal_a sense_n 79._o sense_n ibid._n p._n 79._o and_o avoid_v all_o those_o absurdity_n we_o so_o just_o charge_v they_o with_o as_o to_o the_o authority_n of_o their_o own_o writer_n which_o i_o allege_v to_o show_v that_o the_o doctrine_n of_o transubstantiation_n have_v no_o ground_n neither_o in_o scripture_n nor_o antiquity_n he_o be_v content_a to_o allow_v that_o the_o scripture_n be_v not_o so_o plain_a in_o this_o matter_n but_o that_o it_o be_v necessary_a for_o the_o church_n to_o interpret_v they_o in_o order_n to_o our_o understanding_n of_o it_o 81._o vind._n p._n 80_o 81._o and_o for_o antiquity_n he_o desire_v we_o to_o observe_v one_a that_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n have_v in_o the_o first_o canon_n 82._o ibid._n p._n 82._o define_v the._n true_a real_a and_o substantial_a presence_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o jesus_n christ_n in_o the_o most_o holy_a sacrament_n bring_v this_o transubstantiation_n 2._o sess_n 13._o can._n 2._o or_o conversion_n of_o one_o substance_n into_o another_o as_o the_o natural_a consequence_n of_o it_o can._n 2._o if_o any_o one_o shall_v say_v that_o the_o substance_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n remain_v in_o the_o most_o holy_a sacrament_n of_o the_o eucharist_n together_o with_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n and_o shall_v deny_v that_o wonderful_a and_o singular_a conversion_n of_o the_o whole_a substance_n of_o the_o bread_n into_o the_o body_n and_o of_o the_o whole_a substance_n of_o the_o wine_n into_o the_o blood_n the_o species_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n only_o remain_v which_o conversion_n the_o catholic_n church_n do_v most_o apt_o call_v transubstantiation_n let_v he_o be_v anathema_n the_o design_n of_o the_o council_n in_o which_o canon_n be_v evident_o this_o to_o define_v not_o only_o the_o real_a and_o substantial_a presence_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o eucharist_n against_o the_o sacramentary_n which_o before_o be_v do_v 1._o do_v can._n 1._o but_o also_o the_o manner_n or_o mode_n of_o his_o presence_n against_o the_o lutheran_n in_o two_o particular_n one_a of_o the_o absence_n of_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o bread_n and_o wine_n 2_o of_o the_o conversion_n of_o their_o substance_n into_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n the_o species_n only_o remain_v but_o this_o the_o vindicator_n will_v not_o allow_v but_o advance_v a_o exposition_n so_o contrary_a to_o the_o design_n of_o the_o council_n and_o doctrine_n of_o his_o church_n that_o it_o be_v wonderful_a to_o imagine_v how_o he_o can_v be_v so_o far_o deceive_v himself_o or_o think_v to_o impose_v upon_o other_o so_o vain_a and_o fond_a a_o illusion_n it_o be_v manifest_a 83._o vindic._n p._n 83._o say_v he_o that_o the_o church_n do_v not_o here_o intend_v to_o fix_v the_o manner_n of_o that_o conversion_n but_o only_o to_o declare_v the_o matter_n viz._n that_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o jesus_n christ_n become_v true_o real_o and_o substantial_o present_a the_o bread_n and_o wine_n cease_v to_o be_v there_o true_o real_o and_o substantial_o present_a though_o the_o appearance_n thereof_o remain_v now_o this_o be_v so_o evident_o false_a that_o suarez_n doubt_v not_o to_o say_v it_o be_v hear_v to_o affirm_v it_o forasmuch_o say_v he_o below_o see_v suarez_n cite_v below_o as_o the_o council_n not_o only_o determine_v the_o presence_n of_o christ_n body_n and_o absence_n of_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o bread_n but_o also_o the_o true_a conversion_n of_o the_o one_o into_o the_o other_o thus_o establish_v not_o only_o the_o two_o former_a but_o this_o last_o also_o as_o a_o article_n of_o faith_n our_o dispute_n therefore_o be_v not_o only_o as_o this_o author_n pretend_v about_o the_o real_a presence_n of_o christ_n body_n 83._o vindic._n p._n 83._o and_o absence_n of_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o bread_n which_o he_o call_v the_o thing_n itself_o but_o also_o about_o the_o manner_n how_o jesus_n christ_n be_v present_a viz._n whether_o it_o be_v by_o that_o wonderful_a and_o singular_a conversion_n which_o their_o church_n call_v so_o apt_o transubstantiation_n now_o
this_o be_v that_o we_o be_v to_o inquire_v into_o let_v we_o see_v whether_o the_o authority_n i_o have_v bring_v have_v not_o the_o force_n i_o pretend_v against_o their_o tenet_n and_o 1._o lombard_n write_v about_o this_o conversion_n plain_o show_v it_o to_o have_v be_v undetermined_a in_o his_o time_n for_o have_v first_o assert_v the_o real_a presence_n in_o this_o sacrament_n and_o the_o change_n which_o he_o suppose_v be_v make_v upon_o that_o account_n he_o go_v on_o to_o that_o which_o the_o 92._o the_o vind._n p._n 92._o vindicator_n be_v please_v to_o call_v a_o scholastic_a nicety_n and_o it_o be_v indeed_o at_o that_o time_n no_o other_o though_o since_o become_v a_o matter_n of_o faith_n etc._n lombard_n l._n 4._o d._n 11._o light_v a._n p._n 736._o de_fw-fr modis_fw-la conversionis_fw-la si_fw-mi autem_fw-la quaeritur_fw-la qualis_fw-la sit_fw-la illa_fw-la conuersio_fw-la a_o formalis_fw-la a_o substantialis_fw-la vel_fw-la alterius_fw-la generis_fw-la desinire_fw-la non_fw-la sustineo_fw-la quibusdam_fw-la esse_fw-la videtur_fw-la substantia_fw-la be_v etc._n etc._n viz._n what_o kind_n of_o conversion_n be_v there_o make_v whether_o formal_a or_o substantial_a or_o what_o else_o and_o for_o this_o he_o tell_v we_o free_o he_o be_v not_o able_a to_o define_v it_o that_o some_o have_v think_v it_o to_o be_v a_o substantial_a change_n but_o for_o his_o part_n he_o will_v not_o undertake_v to_o determine_v it_o but_o two_o scotus_n be_v yet_o more_o free_a 63._o free_a dicendum_fw-la say_v scotus_n quod_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la declaravit_fw-la istum_fw-la intellectum_fw-la esse_fw-la de_fw-la veritate_fw-la fidei_fw-la si_fw-mi quaeras_fw-la quare_fw-la voluit_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la eligere_fw-la istum_fw-la intellectum_fw-la ita_fw-la difficilem_fw-la huius_fw-la articuli_fw-la cum_fw-la verba_fw-la scripturae_fw-la possint_fw-la salvari_fw-la secundum_fw-la intellectum_fw-la facilem_fw-la &_o vericrem_fw-la secundum_fw-la apparentiam_fw-la dico_fw-la quod_fw-la eo_fw-la spiritu_fw-la expositae_fw-la sunt_fw-la scripturae_fw-la quo_fw-la conditae_fw-la see_v 4._o sent._n d._n 11._o q._n 3._o p._n 63._o he_o declare_v our_o interpretation_n contrary_a to_o transubstantiation_n to_o be_v the_o more_o easy_a and_o to_o all_o appearance_n the_o more_o true_a insomuch_o that_o the_o church_n authority_n be_v the_o d._n the_o and_o before_o in_o sect._n quantum_fw-la ergo_fw-la he_o profess_v principaliter_fw-la autem_fw-la videtur_fw-la i_o movere_fw-la quod_fw-la sic_fw-la tenet_fw-la romana_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la in_o a_o word_n bellarmine_n himself_o cite_v scotus_n for_o this_o opinion_n non_fw-la extare_fw-la locum_fw-la ullum_fw-la scripturae_fw-la tam_fw-la expressum_fw-la ut_fw-la sine_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la declaratione_fw-la evidenter_fw-la cogat_fw-la transubstantiationem_fw-la admittere_fw-la bell._n de_fw-fr euch._n l._n 3._o c._n 23._o p._n 767._o l._n d._n principal_a thing_n that_o move_v he_o to_o receive_v their_o doctrine_n transubstantiationem_fw-la doctrine_n and_o again_o p._n 768_o l._n a._n unum_n tamen_fw-la addit_fw-la scotus_n quod_fw-la minime_fw-la probandum_fw-la est_fw-la ante_fw-la lateranense_fw-la concilium_fw-la non_fw-la fuisse_fw-la dogma_fw-la fidei_fw-la transubstantiationem_fw-la he_o tell_v we_o that_o this_o doctrine_n of_o transubstantiation_n be_v not_o very_a ancient_n nor_o any_o matter_n of_o faith_n before_o the_o council_n of_o lateran_n all_o which_o the_o vindicator_n himself_o do_v in_o effect_n confess_v the_o same_o be_v 88_o vind._n p._n 88_o 3_o affirm_v by_o docet_fw-la by_o suarez_n in_o 3_o part_n d._n th._n vol._n 3_o disp_n 50._o §_o 1._o p._n 593._o sacramentum_fw-la eucharistiae_fw-la conficitur_fw-la per_fw-la veram_fw-la conversionem_fw-la panis_n &_o vini_n in_o corpus_n &_o sanguinem_fw-la christi_fw-la haec_fw-la assertio_fw-la est_fw-la de_fw-la fide_fw-la nam_fw-la licet_fw-la sub_fw-la his_fw-la verbis_fw-la non_fw-la habeatur_fw-la in_o scriptura_fw-la ea_fw-la tamen_fw-la docet_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la ab_fw-la apostolis_n edocta_fw-la docens_fw-la simul_fw-la ita_fw-la esse_fw-la intelligenda_fw-la verba_fw-la formae_fw-la &_o in_o vero_fw-la sensu_fw-la eorum_fw-la hanc_fw-la veritatem_fw-la contineri_fw-la and_o then_o p._n 594._o col_fw-fr 2._o add_v 1mo_fw-la exit_fw-la hac_fw-la fidei_fw-la doctrina_fw-la colligitur_fw-la corrigendos_fw-la esse_fw-la scholasticos_fw-la qui_fw-la hanc_fw-la doctrinam_fw-la de_fw-la conversione_n hac_fw-la seu_fw-la de_fw-la transubstantiatione_fw-la non_fw-la admodum_fw-la antiquam_fw-la esse_fw-la dixerunt_fw-la inter_fw-la quos_fw-la sunt_fw-la scotus_n &_o gabriel_n biel_n lect_n 41._o in_o can._n etc._n etc._n and_o then_o 2do_fw-la infero_fw-la siquis_fw-la confiteatur_fw-la praesentiam_fw-la corporis_fw-la christi_fw-la &_o absentiam_fw-la panis_n neget_fw-la tamen_fw-la veram_fw-la conversionem_fw-la unius_fw-la in_o aliud_fw-la in_fw-la haeresin_fw-la labi_fw-la quia_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la catholica_fw-la non_fw-la solum_fw-la duo_fw-la priera_fw-fr sed_fw-la etiam_fw-la hoc_fw-la tertium_fw-la definit_a ac_fw-la docet_fw-la svarez_n of_o gabriel_n and_o confess_v by_o the_o vindicator_n who_o also_o contrary_a to_o his_o pretence_n call_v this_o manner_n of_o conversion_n a_o assertion_n that_o be_v of_o faith_n though_o he_o confess_v it_o be_v not_o express_o to_o be_v find_v in_o scripture_n but_o deduce_v thence_o by_o the_o interpretation_n of_o the_o church_n nay_o so_o opposite_a be_v he_o to_o the_o opinion_n and_o pretence_n of_o this_o man_n that_o he_o declare_v in_o this_o very_a place_n which_o our_o good_a author_n examine_v but_o amid_o all_o his_o sincerity_n overlook_v this_o passage_n as_o not_o much_o for_o his_o purpose_n that_o if_o any_o one_o shall_v confess_v the_o real_a presence_n of_o christ_n body_n and_o absence_n of_o the_o bread_n and_o yet_o deny_v the_o true_a conversion_n of_o the_o one_o into_o the_o other_o he_o will_v fall_v into_o hear_v forasmuch_o as_o the_o church_n have_v define_v not_o only_o the_o two_o former_a but_o also_o the_o three_o likewise_o but_o 4thly_a the_o prevarication_n of_o our_o author_n in_o the_o next_o citation_n be_v yet_o more_o unpardonable_a i_o affirm_v that_o cardinal_n cajetan_n acknowledge_v that_o have_v not_o the_o church_n declare_v herself_o for_o the_o proper_a sense_n of_o the_o word_n the_o other_o may_v with_o as_o good_a reason_n have_v be_v receive_v this_o he_o say_v be_v false_a 86._o vind._n p._n 86._o for_o that_o cajetan_a say_v no_o such_o thing_n nay_o rather_o the_o contrary_a as_o will_v appear_v to_o any_o one_o who_o read_v that_o article_n and_o then_o with_o wonderful_a assurance_n begin_v a_o rabble_n of_o citation_n nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n in_o the_o very_a next_o word_n to_o those_o in_o which_o my_o end_n for_o the_o better_a clear_n of_o this_o doctrine_n vindicator_n cajetan_n in_o 3._o d._n th._n q._n 75._o art_n 1._o p._n 130._o col._n 1._o in_o comment_n circa_fw-la praesentis_fw-la &_o sequentium_fw-la articulorum_fw-la doctrinam_fw-la pro_fw-la claritate_fw-la &_o ampliori_fw-la intellectu_fw-la difficultatum_fw-la sciendum_fw-la est_fw-la ex_fw-la autoritate_fw-la s._n scripturae_fw-la de_fw-la existentia_fw-la corporis_fw-la christi_fw-la in_o sacramento_n eucharistiae_fw-la nihil_fw-la aliud_fw-la haberi_fw-la express_v nisi_fw-la verbum_fw-la salvatoris_fw-la dicentis_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la corpus_fw-la meum_fw-la oportet_fw-la enim_fw-la verba_fw-la haec_fw-la vera_fw-la esse_fw-la et_fw-la quoniam_fw-la verba_fw-la sacrae_fw-la scripturae_fw-la exponuntur_fw-la dupliciter_fw-la vel_fw-la proprie_fw-la vel_fw-la metapherice_n primus_fw-la error_n circa_fw-la hoc_fw-la fuit_fw-la interpretantium_fw-la haec_fw-la domini_fw-la verba_fw-la metaphorice_v quem_fw-la magister_fw-la sent._n l._n 4._o d._n 10._o tractat._n qui_fw-la &_o hoc_fw-la articulo_fw-la reprobatur_fw-la et_fw-la 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